This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Messenger, Young, Kelley, Immel, Lauterwasser, Brown Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.counties.barnstable/1088/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello! I am looking for the obit of Sarah Ella Messenger Young Kelley. Her date of death was 6 Sep 1963. Names that would be in the obit would be Viola Immel, Lillian Lauterwasser and Clarence "Bud" Brown. Grandma Kelley was living in Dennis when she died. Your help is appreciated! Thanks! Jo Ann

Hi, sorry for holiday delay in responding to your query. A William Palmer, born abt 1581 in England, and Wife Frances ---, married about 1610, came over on the Fortune in 1621. His first residence was Plymouth, then removed to Duxbury. He died 1637/8. Married 2nd before 1637 Mary ---. [Sketch from Anderson, Great Migration Begins] Anderson gives a "Bibliographic Note: In 1956 Florence Barclay produced the definitive article on William Palmer, resolving many of the outstanding problems, outlining the careers of the two sons of the immigrant named William, and pointing out several errors in Savage, particularly the mixing of son William (b. 1612) with the man who went to Newtown, Long Island [TAG 32:39-45]. The other William (yours, I guess) is listed in Torrey Marriages as: PALMER, William ( d. bef 1661) & Judith [FISKE], m/2 Jeffrey FERRIS by 6 Jan 1664, m/3 John BOWERS ca 1666-7; ca 1637?, 1639?; Yarmouth/Dartmouth/Newtown, LI {Reg. 40:271; TAG 26:95, 183, 27:69, 32:41, 36:241; NYGBR 11:71, 63:360, 64:30; Newtown LI 26, 31, 43, 59; Miner Anc. 142; Messenger (ms); Messenger (1948) 11; Reynolds (1924) 31 (wrong); Yarmouth 68} The NEHGR 40:271 citation is: New Engl Gleanings: "Lt Robert Feke of Watertown in N.E. gent, and William Palmer of Yarmouth and Judith his wife, and Tobias Feke, age 17, son and daughter of James Feke, late of London, goldmsmith, deceased, make Tobia Dixon of London their attorney" Selleck, Lllian, "One branch of the Miner Family. 1928, page 142 has a sketch of William Palmer; Lieut. Willliam (1) Palmer appeared in Yarmouth as early as Jan 1639, and resided there until 1652. He married Judith Feake, born about 1620, daughter of James Feake, goldsmith, of London Engl. Palmer was a Deputy to the Plym Gen Cout, and was apptd Lieutenant 1642 under Capt Miles Standish. In 1653 he moved to Newtown , Long Island. Died between 1659 and 1661. Children: William m Mary (Terrill) Tyler of Milford Ephraim m Sarah Messenger James of Greenwich, d 28 Feb 1717, m Sarah Denham Joseph, m Elizabeth Tyler Judith, m John Reynolds. No Susannah. A marriage is listed for a Susannah Palmer on LI in Torrey Marriages. MILLS, Samuel (1632-1727) & Susannah [PALMER]; ca 1659; Jamaica, LI {Keeler-Wood 91-92; Reg. 14:106} The NEHReg article at 14:106 is a sketch of "Mills - Jamaica on Long island. death of Samuel Mills of this Place, Yeoman who was born in America) aged ninety five years. He lived sixty eight years with one Wife, who is still alive, by whom he had Sixteen Children. . . His Wife was Deliver'd of a Child when she was One and Fifty Years of Age. -- Boston News Letter 1727 No 14" Josephine Frost in Ancestry of Evelyn Wood Keeler, 1939, pg 91 says Samuel Mills son of George and Rebecca Mills, born 1632, where not found, married Susanna Palmer, "whose ancestry has not been satisfactorily settled, but Book 2, B of Greenwich Conn Deeds, states that Samuel Mills and his wife Susanna of Jamaica, LI give to their son Sameul, one sixth of the land which was granted 'to our brother John Palmer decesed of Greenwich." Hist of Wethersfield Conn states that John Palmer was a possible brother of Henry and was there in 1657. I do not have access to the TAG references. I can't tie Susanna to William. Hopefully this gives you a few more clues. Regards, Bob Bob & Dee Carroll. Westport, NY, on Lake Champlain Relations of Bob & Dee http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=rcarroll On Dec 31, 2006, at 11:42 AM, Mary Barringer wrote: > Looking for information on William Palmer born about 1610 in probably > Norfolk, England. Reported to be a private and Sgt with Miles > Standish. married abt 1637 in Watertown or Yamouth, MA to Judith > Feake. Died abf Nov 1661 in Long Island, NY or his daughter Susannah > Palmer born about 1639/40 in Yarmouth and son, James Palmer born abt. > 1652-56 in Yarmouth. Have found records of another William Palmer > arriving on the Fortune. I am confused by the passed down family > history. Any information or resources would be appreciated. I can be > contacted by e-mail. > Mary Payne Barringer

Hello Barnstable County Listers, I am having an immense problem in finding the gravesites of my paternal ancestral family prior to 1910 and at least one of my ancestors who died after 1910. Prior to 1910, the MA. Archives, NEHGS and the local genealogical societies are often lacking that information. I am searching for the final resting place of my gr3-grandparents, Isaiah DAVIS, b. bet. August 26, 1790 - 1792 in Falmouth, MA., captured in War of 1812, m. Experience GREW on May 25, 1818 in Falmouth, had at least 5 children, d. May 28, 1865 in Falmouth. Experience/Experiance GREW, b. bet. October 12, 1794 - 1796 to Jonathan GREW-III and Mercy/Marcy FISH, d. December 29, 1852 in Falmouth. Henry G. DAVIS' (Isaiah's and Experience's son), final resting place is also one of my brick walls. Thank you in advance of any reply. Joan Boetger

Was wandering thru the old newspaper collection & found the following which I see is not listed in the Falmouth VRs. In the New-Bedford Mercury, Date: 08-07-1840; Volume: XXXIV; Issue: 7; Page: [3]; "In Nantucket, Mr Joseph O Bodfish of Barnstable to Miss Adeline Eldridge of Falmouth" Hope this helps someone. Not one of mine, so have no further information. Cheers, Bobbie Hall Chicago

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Eilola, Toolas, Mehtala Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.counties.barnstable/1087/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am trying to find out about Herman and Jennie Toolas of Sandwich. I believe my great-grandparents, Erkki and Anna Maria (Mehtala) Eilola, came to the U.S. from Finland and came to Sandwich to be with Herman and Jennie Toolas. Their second child, Ansel, was born in Buzzard Bay in 1904 and shortly after they moved to live in Virginia, MN. In Erkki's passenger records, Herman is listed as his brother-in-law. I am trying find out if Jennie may be Errki's or Anna's sister or whether they are related to Herman. In Herman's passenger records he is listed as coming to see his sister Maria Mehtala. Any help would be appreciated.

Looking for information on William Palmer born about 1610 in probably Norfolk, England. Reported to be a private and Sgt with Miles Standish. married abt 1637 in Watertown or Yamouth, MA to Judith Feake. Died abf Nov 1661 in Long Island, NY or his daughter Susannah Palmer born about 1639/40 in Yarmouth and son, James Palmer born abt. 1652-56 in Yarmouth. Have found records of another William Palmer arriving on the Fortune. I am confused by the passed down family history. Any information or resources would be appreciated. I can be contacted by e-mail. Mary Payne Barringer

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Howland Harris Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.counties.barnstable/415.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: NEHGS - MA Vital Index Howland Thomas Brewster 1857 108 3 Marriage Nov 24, 1857 --Thomas Howland, resides Brewster,22,seaman, b Brewster to Oliver Howland --Dorcas Ellis, resides Brewster,17, no occ listed, b Harwich, Philip Ellis Married by Joshua Davis, Methodist Minister NEHGS - MA Vital Index Howland Thomas Brewster 1908 21 201 Death Mar 14, 1908 Thomas Howland, age 71, 4 mos, 10 days West Brewster - listed as residence / place of death male, color - w, marital status is x Born Brewster Father Alvin? Howland, birthplace unknown Mother Sally Harris, b Brewster Occ was farmer Informant - Irving Howland Buried West Brewster Hope this helps...

Hi Charlie Wonderful stuff!! I'm searching for a Thomas AMES from central England born around 1806. However, as I've been searching my maternal side (my mother was Inez Irene AMES) for 25 years I've come across a lot of English AMES genealogy, but I'm so very stuck on my Thomas! Have you read/seen 'The genealogical memoranda of the family of AMES' by Reginald AMES. It may add to your knowledge. Try http://patriot.lib.byu.edu/cdm4/browse.php?CISOROOT=/FH16&CISOSTART=1,81 Have you exhausted the AMES' on this webpage: http://www.quintinpublications.com/familygenealogies_als.html Best wishes Carole >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], >[email protected] >Subject: Re: [AMES] Thomas AMES b abt 1548 in England >Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:52:46 EST >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from lists9.rootsweb.com ([66.43.27.45]) by >bay0-mc3-f13.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2444); Mon, >11 Dec 2006 18:55:59 -0800 >Received: from lists9.rootsweb.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])by >lists9.rootsweb.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kBC2sjMM006484for ><[email protected]>; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:55:39 -0700 >Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34])by >lists9.rootsweb.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kBBKrmC7023961;Mon, 11 >Dec 2006 13:53:48 -0700 >Received: from imo-m17.mx.aol.com (imo-m17.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.207])by >mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kBBKrK2N021122;Mon, 11 Dec >2006 13:53:23 -0700 >Received: from [email protected] imo-m17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) >id e.cbe.2f5bdec (48600);Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:52:48 -0500 (EST) >X-Message-Info: LsUYwwHHNt2wxMyAsknMhU9dI8/UQHlk5NxjBO3KvQM= >X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5331 >X-Spam-Flag: NO >X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 192.168.65.34 >X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.7 >X-BeenThere: [email protected] >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 >Precedence: list >List-Id: <ames.rootsweb.com> >X-Loop: [email protected] >List-Unsubscribe: ><http://lists9.rootsweb.com/mailman/listinfo/ames>,<mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> >List-Archive: <http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=ames> >List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]> >List-Help: <mailto:[email protected]?subject=help> >List-Subscribe: ><http://lists9.rootsweb.com/mailman/listinfo/ames>,<mailto:[email protected]?subject=subscribe> >Errors-To: [email protected] >Return-Path: [email protected] >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Dec 2006 02:55:59.0226 (UTC) >FILETIME=[0D3705A0:01C71D99] > >In a message dated 12/5/2006 7:02:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >[email protected] writes: > >Seeking information on ancestors of Thomas AMES who was born about 1548 >in England. He died 25 Jun 1618 Fordington, St. George, Doreset, >England. >If you have information on his ancestors, etc. would you let me know and >respond to >[email protected] >For some time I have been searching for the identity of Zephon Ames who >married Elizabeth Young, a fifth generation descendant of Stephen Hopkins >of the >Mayflower. I recently came across an Ames genealogy at the Sturgis Library >in >Barnstable MA written by Walcott Ames. > He traces Zephon Ames back to your Thomas Ames of Dorsetshire, >claiming >he married Millicent ??, and died 23 May 1614 in Fordington. > Thomas and Millicents children: >Richard >*Anthony b. 1595, d Marshfield MA 1686,m c. 1615 Margery Pierce >Alice >John >Anna > >Anthony Ames was a proprieter of Charlestown in 16344, moved to Hingham and >was made freeman 9 Mar 1637. He died in Hingham. > Children of Anthony and Margery: >Millicent - b 1618 m. William Sprague >John -b 1618 >*Mark b.c 1620, m Elizabeth Andrews >Persis b. 1621, m Michael Pierce >Elizabeth b. 1624, m. Edward Wilder >Justice, m. Mehitable Chillings worth >Margery b 1630, m John Jacobs >??Abigail.b c. 1636 m Charles Stockbridge >??Anthony, m Elizabeth _____ >??Jonathan > >Children of Mark Ames and Elizabeth Andrews > >John b 6 Sep 1649 >*Anthony b 1656, m Mercy Sawyer >Damaris m. Kenelm Winslow (my 8th G Grandfather) >Jonathan b 1656, m Hannah Ttrouant >Sarah >Elizabeth m Andrew Lane >Mary >David >Margery ( confuses this Margery with Margery above, marrying John Jacobs) > >Children of Anthony Ames and Mercy Sawyer: > >Mercy b 1687, m Joseph Philips >Jerusha b 1688, m. Thomas Sawyer >Elizabeth b 1691 >Ichabod b 1693 >Marke b 1695 >Anthony b 1697, m Elizabeth________ > This is the Anthony he claims is Anthony/Zephon Ames, my >ancestor. But he has Elizabeth dying in 1717, and Anthony marrying Grace >Oldham in 1724. This conflicts with evidence of a deed cosigned by Zephon >and wife > Elizabeth in 1729 recorded in The Mayflower Descendant. > Unfortunately here are no proofs or sources. There is some more >detail >if you are interested. I would certainly be grateful for anyone who can >support this line of descent! > >Charlie Bearse > > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™ Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb

In a message dated 12/5/2006 7:02:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Seeking information on ancestors of Thomas AMES who was born about 1548 in England. He died 25 Jun 1618 Fordington, St. George, Doreset, England. If you have information on his ancestors, etc. would you let me know and respond to [email protected] For some time I have been searching for the identity of Zephon Ames who married Elizabeth Young, a fifth generation descendant of Stephen Hopkins of the Mayflower. I recently came across an Ames genealogy at the Sturgis Library in Barnstable MA written by Walcott Ames. He traces Zephon Ames back to your Thomas Ames of Dorsetshire, claiming he married Millicent ??, and died 23 May 1614 in Fordington. Thomas and Millicents children: Richard *Anthony b. 1595, d Marshfield MA 1686,m c. 1615 Margery Pierce Alice John Anna Anthony Ames was a proprieter of Charlestown in 16344, moved to Hingham and was made freeman 9 Mar 1637. He died in Hingham. Children of Anthony and Margery: Millicent - b 1618 m. William Sprague John -b 1618 *Mark b.c 1620, m Elizabeth Andrews Persis b. 1621, m Michael Pierce Elizabeth b. 1624, m. Edward Wilder Justice, m. Mehitable Chillings worth Margery b 1630, m John Jacobs ??Abigail.b c. 1636 m Charles Stockbridge ??Anthony, m Elizabeth _____ ??Jonathan Children of Mark Ames and Elizabeth Andrews John b 6 Sep 1649 *Anthony b 1656, m Mercy Sawyer Damaris m. Kenelm Winslow (my 8th G Grandfather) Jonathan b 1656, m Hannah Ttrouant Sarah Elizabeth m Andrew Lane Mary David Margery ( confuses this Margery with Margery above, marrying John Jacobs) Children of Anthony Ames and Mercy Sawyer: Mercy b 1687, m Joseph Philips Jerusha b 1688, m. Thomas Sawyer Elizabeth b 1691 Ichabod b 1693 Marke b 1695 Anthony b 1697, m Elizabeth________ This is the Anthony he claims is Anthony/Zephon Ames, my ancestor. But he has Elizabeth dying in 1717, and Anthony marrying Grace Oldham in 1724. This conflicts with evidence of a deed cosigned by Zephon and wife Elizabeth in 1729 recorded in The Mayflower Descendant. Unfortunately here are no proofs or sources. There is some more detail if you are interested. I would certainly be grateful for anyone who can support this line of descent! Charlie Bearse

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Edwards Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0EB.2ACE/1085 Message Board Post: Foster Edwards was cousin to my Grandmother he was son of John Arthur and Maggie EDWARDS born Iowa died 1980 Orleans. He was a baseball player for Boston Braves 1925 to 1928 in 1930 he played for New York Yankees I believe he had a daughter called Susan. I have not been able to find Foster EDWARDS in the 1930 census. any help appreciated regards Catherine in Cheshire UK

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Moran, Mauran Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0EB.2ACE/1084 Message Board Post: Looking for any info or descendants of Irwin Moran Sr (1892 - 1968) died in Dennis Port per SSDI or his son Irwin Jr.(1916 - 1988) died in Forestdale per SSDI. Probable relatives of this family currently living in Sweden are searching for US Moran cousins.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0EB.2ACE/483.1 Message Board Post: Olive Berry b. 1789 christian Apr. 19, 1789 Harwich, Ma. parents Scotway Berry and Hannah Mayo. she married Thomas 4th Snow Aug. 25, 1808 in Harwich d. Feb. 6, 1869 in Boston burial was in Brewster. I got this info from LDS website ( family search.org ) There is more info on this family you might be interested in. the website is free

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BERRY REW/RUE Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0EB.2ACE/483 Message Board Post: Hello, I am looking for more information on the children of Scotto Berry born 20 Oct 1745 Harwich, Barnstable Co., Ma. I am especially interested in a marriage record for his daughter Olive BERRY born 1789 Harwich, Barnstable Co., Ma. If anyone has information on this family I would appreciate hearing from you. Thank you very much. Marilyn

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0EB.2ACE/481.1.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: You will find that in the NEHGRegister, 87:255, but without source citation and "about" 1792, which would suggest to me that in 1933 when the article was published no record had been found. I have Chases too. They are a difficult lot.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0EB.2ACE/481.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for looking....I'll keep digging. I did come across a Chase/Chace in Vt on the early census...gues that one is yours.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0EB.2ACE/481.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: I have seen that but can find no sources for the information anywhere. Would love to know how they came to this conclusion. I think it was published in a book at some time but no sources there either, if I'm not mistaken. If there are any records to show this I would love to see them or know what they are. In going through the old census records I haven't been able to make that fit with anything I can find on the census.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0EB.2ACE/481.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Ancestry World Tree Seth Chase b. Apr. 29,1766 Swansea, Bristol, Ma. d. Dec. 17, 1836 m. Abigail Manning 1792 father Barnabas Chase mother Mary Eddy they had 14 children. If you need more info there is more.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0EB.2ACE/481.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I have Chase's in my husbands line his mother was Dorothy Chase b. Vt. but the line goes back to Newbury in Essex, Ma.I could not find a Seth. I know there is a connection to Aquilla Chase.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0EB.2ACE/481.1.1 Message Board Post: I think you will find his wife to be is Abigail Manning....maybe. Probably in Bristol Co. I've seen references to that but no sources ever listed. Just like to know if there is really proof of that or just conjecture or rumors. thanks so much.