Yes, John, that is why I stressed LCMS because that is what I am. Since I cannot belong to everything, I can only help with what I have available. It is up to someone else to offer to help from the other denominations. At least if you tell me to look up the present day address of a church, and I say it is not listed, your field of search has been narrowed down that much more because you now know it is not LCMS. My offer still stands. Dorene John Dornheim wrote: > " > > Which is all well and good if the church was LCMS. It overlooks the 55 ELCA churches in Pittsburgh area. > > John Dornheim