Mary/Jeff, I want to add my two bits. When I was researching the history of our original Hackensack Lutheran Church, NJ (1703 - ca 1775), I found references to Henry Melchoir Muhlenberg coming to the Trinity Lutheran Church in New York (The first Lutheran Church in NYC) as well as to the Hackensack congregation in New Jersey. I used an earlier translation of Muhlenberg's notes which mainly described his work in New Jersey. (These notes from his day book are now fully translated in "The Journals of Henry Melchior Muhlenberg") Henry Melchior Muhlenberg was noted for his great organizational capabilities, having been the first to organize Lutheran congregations in the colonies. He organized the Ministerium of Pennsylvania by 1748. At about that time, the Trinity Lutheran Church in NYC called on Muhlenberg to become their pastor. His first visit to Trinity was in May 1751. He preached in New York and Hackensack from June 1751 through August 1751. (The Hackensack church also issued a call to him in August 1751.) Because of pressures from the congregations he left behind in Pennsylvania and because of family matters, he returned to Trappe, Pennsylvania by September. He returned to New York the next year in May and stayed through July. He then recommended that the Trinity and Hackensack churches extend a call to Rev J. Albert Weygand. Weygand served both congregations from 1753 through 1767. As an aside, Muhlenberg had been training young men to become pastors. One of them was Jacob von Buskirk, a son of the Hackensack congregation. Von Buskirk was the first American born Lutheran pastor to be ordained (1763). Muhlenberg did return occasionally to the NY/NJ area. The last record that I had found was dated 1760. If I remember correctly, Henry Melchior Muhlenberg did have sons. It is possible that one of them came later to preach in NYC. Arnie "Mary D. Taffet" wrote: > > Jeff, > > It's a long shot, especially since there was more than one Pastor > Muhlenberg, but you might try to get access to the three volume set > called "The Journals of Henry Melchior Muhlenberg". You will need all > three volumes, because the third volume is the only one with an index. > Every surname that appears anywhere in one of the three volumes is > indexed in the third volume, by first name. You will find out from the > index which volume(s) & page number(s) are applicable. > > If however the Pastor Muhlenberg involved was not Henry Melchior, then I > don't know where to lead you next. > > Henry Melchior Muhlenberg was, as I understand it, one of the first, if > not the first, Paster of the Lutheran church in America. He was > ordained in Germany and then sent to Pennsylvania certainly by 1743, if > not before then. He travelled a lot, so many different locations are > addressed in his journals. He made notes of every baptism, every > marriage, and every death he attended (at least as far as I know...). > > Two entries in Volume II of this series proved crucial for my own > research, as they linked together two generations that I would have no > other way of linking. > > -- Mary Taffet > List Administrator for LUTHERAN-ROOTS > mdtaffet@syr.edu > > jeff_lintner@dph.sf.ca.us wrote: > > > > Thank you to all on this list that have helped provide some suggestions to me in > > the past. I am presenting a question that has stumped myself and an ancestor of > > the other person involved in this question. Let me explain. I am looking for any > > information/leads/suggestions regarding Lutheran church records for NYC between > > 1766 and 1774, thereabouts. It is known that my ancestor Georg Lindner/George > > Lintner and Stephen Schreiber were residents of NYC in 1773 when they bought > > land together. Where they lived in NYC is a mystery at present. Also, it is > > known that these two men had "partaken of the Lord's Supper" from a Lutheran > > minister. Here is the exact reference. > > > > "Calendar of New York Historical Manuscripts - English 1664-1776, pg. 825, 1774 > > April 18 - certificates- Muhlenberg, minister of the Lutheran Congregation of > > New York that Stephen Schreiber and George Lintner had partaken of the Lord's > > supper." > > > > This reference was important as it was noted in George and Stephen's > > naturalization document that they had partaken of the Lord's supper. > > > > Would anyone be so kind as to point me in the direction of being able to contact > > the present location of the Lutheran Congregation of New York and/or Minister > > Muhlenberg? Mr. Screiber's ancestor believes that Minister Muhlenberg was a > > traveling minister, perhaps out of Philadelphia. I am hoping that the statement > > 'Lutheran Congregation of NY' does serve a greater purpose than to state their > > religious preference. > > > > Thank you for any help that can be offered. > > > > Jeff Lintner -- Arnold Lang arnielang@worldnet.att.net Visit the Research Guide to Immigration and Ships Passenger Lists at: http://home.att.net/~arnielang