Good morning, I have many times heard of the term "lower Saxony", but no one has been able to actually verify the area in question. What land mass did it encompass? Regards, Robert Lipprandt rloss@bellsouth.net ----- Original Message ----- From: David Seefeldt <seefeldt@in-motion.net> To: <LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 1:29 AM Subject: Re: [LUTH-ROOTS] Introduction - Johann and Johannes naming > Johann means John. Johannes also means John. Look at the following URL for > German naming conventions which will explain the difference between Johann > and Johannes in German naming. > > http://www.kerchner.com/germname.htm > > David Seefeldt > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "alice" <syrex@coslink.net> > To: <LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 1:15 AM > Subject: Re: [LUTH-ROOTS] Introduction > > > > Hi Scott, > > > > Welcome to the list. You mentioned you speak German. I was wondering if > > you could please tell me the meaning of the following two names: > > 1. Johannes > > 2. Johann > > > > I was told that Johann means Mr. is this true? My ggg-grandfather was > from > > Germany and his name on the ships list was Johannes Auer. > > > > Also, do you know how I would be able to get records that were kept by a > > Luthern Church that existed during the 1700's in Va? > > > > Any help is appreciated. You can e-mail me at: syrex@coslink.net > > > > Thank You, > > Alice > > > > > > At 05:28 PM 11/30/00 -0500, you wrote: > > >I'm new on this list, so thought I'd introduce myself. I am researching > the > > >following Surnames with Lutheran roots: > > > > > >HOLL-Oberpreuschwitz/Eckersdorf (near Bayreuth), Bavaria, Germany > > Economy, > > >Penn. > St. Louis > Lincoln Co., Kansas > > > > > >WOLTING-Rüsfort (near Osnabrück), Lower Saxony, Germany > Lincoln Co., > > >Kansas > > > > > >TIEMANN-Dahlinghausen (near Osnabrück), Lower Saxony, Germany > Lincoln > Co., > > >Kansas > > > > > >MUELLER/MÜLLER-Germany > St. Louis > Lincoln Co., Kansas > > > > > >I have extensive genealogical information about my Tiemann line, which > has > > >been traced back to about 1570 to Arndt Meyer zum Vorwalde (born > Holtkamp). > > >The name changed to Tiemann due to practices involving the transference > of > > >property. I have complete information about Tiemann lines that is > correct > > >to 1981 (some branches later) and the Meyer zum Vorwalde line to about > 1925. > > > > > >My own church background is Missouri Synod, but I have a theological degr > ee > > >from the Lutheran School of Theology in Chicago (I am a lay person). I > am > > >fairly well versed in Lutheran history, theology and church structure, if > > >that is a help to anyone. I also know German. > > > > > >Scott Holl > > >Chicago > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >