This is the seventh of a one week's evaluation of an enlarged and expanded CHI TIH feature. If you wish to comment please contact me or the list owner. Our addresses are at the end of the article. Today in History (December 21): 1620 Pilgrims land at Plymouth Rock, when the Mayflower anchored off Plymouth, Massachusetts, and there founded the first Congregational church on American soil; the landing followed a brief exploratory expedition which concluded a 63-day voyage across the Atlantic Ocean; the 102 colonists, including 35 Pilgrims, began disembarking the day after Christmas; following the winter at port in Plymouth, the Mayflower set sail for its return trip to England in April 1621 1672 Benjamin Schmolck, German Lutheran clergyman and hymnist, born at Brauchitzchdorf, Germany; ordained in 1701, he was appointed pastor of the Friedenskirche at Schweidnitz in 1702, remaining there until his death in 1737; because of the Catholic restrictions on the number and location of Lutheran churches in Silesia, Schmolck's Schweidnitz church had to serve 36 villages; nevertheless, Schmolck, found time to pen over 900 hymns; Schmolck was not a Pietist, yet his hymns reveal the warmth of intimate and practical Christianity; his most popular hymn is "My Jesus, As Thou Wilt" 1835 Oglethorpe University was chartered in Milledgeville, Georgia, under Presbyterian auspices; in 1913 the campus moved from Milledgeville to Atlanta 1807 Death of John Newton, Anglican clergyman and hymnwriter ("Amazing Grace"); he outlived his wife of 40 years (Mary Catlett Newton) by 17 years; Newton began his life as a profligate seaman involved in the slave trade; he was miraculously turned toward God during a storm at sea in March 1748; he abandoned this degrading profession four years later to become a port clerk; influenced by Charles Wesley and George Whitefield, Newton began studying for the ministry; in 1764, at age 39, Newton was ordained into the Anglican ministry; his first appointment was the parish at Olney, where he remained 16 years (1764-79); For the current trial and evaluation please direct your comments to me or Mary and not to the mailing list. To do that please do not hit the reply button, but rather open a new e-letter, copy and paste one or both of our e-mail addresses, which are near the bottom of this message, into the address box of your new e-letter [if you use both addresses seperate them by a semicolon and a space]. All we need for your response to this trial is the acronym _ PSA _ in the subject line and your comments in the body of the e-letter. We do not need copies of this message unless you find fault with the message itself. If you wish to use these items, please get permission. Permission to post TIH items on LUTHERAN-ROOTS was received from Marvin A. Huggins, C.A., Associate Director Concordia Historical Institute (314)505-7921 801 De Mun Avenue FAX: (314)505-7901 St. Louis, MO 63105-3168 mhuggins@chi.lcms.org Web Page: http://chi.lcms.org/ for now, contributor John Birkholz brotherjohn@imt.net The list owner is Mary D. Taffet mdtaffet@mailbox.syr.edu

Has anyone come across the name of the Rev. Ralph Fassinger? Thanks, John Dornheim

I apologize for the confusion of dates on the last posting. The subject line date of 19 December was correct. The date December 18 in the body was incorrect. [I tried to take a short cut] <grin> This is the sixth of a one week's evaluation of an enlarged and expanded CHI TIH feature. If you wish to comment please contact me or the list owner. Our addresses are at the end of the article. Today in History (December 20): 1776 Third Continental Congress opens at Baltimore, Maryland 1787 The United Society of Believers in Christ's Second Appearing, the Shaking Quakers or Shakers, began a revival movement in colonial America that ignited religious fervor among other denominations, especially in Kentucky and other frontier regions 1803 Death of Samuel Hopkins (b. 1721), colonial American theologian; converted under the preaching of George Whitefield and Gilbert Tennant, Hopkins studied theology under Jonathan Edwards; he pastored two Congregational churches during his life: one in Great Barrington, Massachusetts (1743-69), and the other at Newport, Rhode Island (1769-1803); for the last 30 years of his ministry, Hopkins wrote and preached against slavery - the first American Congregational abolitionist; *** more details available 1823 J. H. Baden, Lutheran editor, founder of missions, born at Westeresch, Hannover 1845 Baldwin Institute was first chartered in Berea, Ohio, by Methodists; in 1854 the school changed its name to Baldwin University; in 1914 the college joined with German Wallace College and adopted the new name Baldwin-Wallace University 1849 William Miller, originator of the Advent Movement which predicted a definite time for Christ's Second Coming; died in Low Hampton, New York (b. 1782); following his conversion in 1816, Miller became interested in second coming of the Lord; he went on a speaking tour in 1841 and predicted that the Lord's second coming would occur sometime between March 21, 1843, and March 21, 1844 1856 Newberry College was chartered in Newberry, South Carolina, under Lutheran auspices; the main campus was transferred to Walhalla, South Carolina, in 1868, but returned to Newberry in 1877 1863 Birth of C. C. (Charles Cutler) Torrey, American biblical linguist; he taught at Andover Seminary (1892-1900) then at Yale University (1900-32); as first director of the School of Oriental Research in Jerusalem (1900-01), Torrey was a specialist in Aramaic and in apocryphal and pseudepigraphical literature; *** more details available 1866 Gustav Adolf Fandrey, Lutheran pastor in the Midwest, president of Evangelical Lutheran Synod of Iowa and Other States, born in Samter, Posen, Germany 1884 Martin C. Kosche, Addison, 1903; teacher in Snohomish, Washington; retired 1956; born in Chicago, Illinois For the current trial and evaluation please direct your comments to me or Mary and not to the mailing list. To do that please do not hit the reply button, but rather open a new e-letter, copy and paste one or both of our e-mail addresses, which are near the bottom of this message, into the address box of your new e-letter [if you use both addresses seperate them by a semicolon and a space]. All we need for your response to this trial is the acronym _ PSA _ in the subject line and your comments in the body of the e-letter. We do not need copies of this message unless you find fault with the message itself. If you wish to use these items, please get permission. Permission to post TIH items on LUTHERAN-ROOTS was received from Marvin A. Huggins, C.A., Associate Director Concordia Historical Institute (314)505-7921 801 De Mun Avenue FAX: (314)505-7901 St. Louis, MO 63105-3168 mhuggins@chi.lcms.org Web Page: http://chi.lcms.org/ for now, contributor John Birkholz brotherjohn@imt.net The list owner is Mary D. Taffet mdtaffet@mailbox.syr.edu

This is the fifth of a one week's evaluation of an enlarged and expanded CHI TIH feature. If you wish to comment please contact me or the list owner. Our addresses are at the end of the article. Today in History (December 18): 1808 Horatius Bonar, regarded as the most eminent hymnwriter of Scotland, also a preacher of great fame and power; author "Glory Be to God the Father" (LW 173); "Here, O My Lord, I See You Face to Face" (LW 243); "I Heard the Voice of Jesus Say" (LW 348); "I Lay My Sins on Jesus" (LW 366); born in Edinburgh, Scotland; *** *** More details are available. If interested contact me or CHI for the rest. 1836 Gottfried Fritschel, prominent and scholarly theologian of the Iowa Synod; studied under Loehe and J. T. Mueller; came to America in 1857; professor at Wartburg Seminary (St. Sebald, Iowa and Mendota, Illinois); prolific writer and controversialist; born at Nuremberg, Germany 1838 Christian Gottlieb Blumhardt; one of the founders of Basel Missionary Society in 1804; inspector for Basel Missionary School; died in Basel 1842 Bernard Pick, Presbyterian and Lutheran pastor in Mid-Atlantic States, author, born Kempen, Prussia 1860 Birth of Frank E. Graeff, American Methodist clergyman, in Tamaqua, Pennsylvania; ordained in 1890, he served churches in the Philadelphia Conference; Graeff was always interested in children and became well known for his storytelling ability; he also authored over 200 hymns, including "Does Jesus Care?" For the current trial and evaluation please direct your comments to me or Mary and not to the mailing list. To do that please do not hit the reply button, but rather open a new e-letter, copy and paste one or both of our e-mail addresses, which are near the bottom of this message, into the address box of your new e-letter [if you use both addresses seperate them by a semicolon and a space]. All we need for your response to this trial is the acronym _ PSA _ in the subject line and your comments in the body of the e-letter. We do not need copies of this message unless you find fault with the message itself. If you wish to use these items, please get permission. Permission to post TIH items on LUTHERAN-ROOTS was received from Marvin A. Huggins, C.A., Associate Director Concordia Historical Institute (314)505-7921 801 De Mun Avenue FAX: (314)505-7901 St. Louis, MO 63105-3168 mhuggins@chi.lcms.org Web Page: http://chi.lcms.org/ for now, contributor John Birkholz brotherjohn@imt.net The list owner is Mary D. Taffet mdtaffet@mailbox.syr.edu

Good day fellow reseachers. This edition is coming a day late as I had a 'bad hair day' yesterday <grin> I see that the next edition is in the bin. I will edit and send it after I return from church. This is the fourth of a one week's evaluation of an enlarged and expanded CHI TIH feature. If you wish to comment please contact me or the list owner. Our addresses are at the end of the article. Today in History (December 18): 1707 Charles Wesley, co-founder of Methodism and hymnist, born at Epworth Rectory, England; the 18th child of an Anglican pastor, Wesley followed his older brother John to Oxford in 1726; the Wesleys and their friends formed the "Holy Club"; the group was derisively dubbed the "Methodists" for their methodical forms of personal piety; *** *** There is more detail Contact me or the Concordia Historical Institute 1831 J. H. Jox, Fort Wayne graduate, pastor in Freistadt, Wisconsin; Logansport, Indiana; vice-president of Central District; founded numerous congregations in vicinity of Logansport; born near Giessen, Hesse- Darmstadt 1834 Emory College was chartered in Oxford, Georgia, under Methodist auspices; in 1915 the name was changed to Emory University, and in 1919 the college was relocated in Atlanta, Georgia 1857 Johann Leonhard George Mezger, theological professor at St. Louis and in Berlin, born in Brunswick, Germany 1863 Johann Friedrich Gustav Harders, missionary to American Indians at Globe, Arizona, born in Kiel, Germany 1877 Joergen Peter Nielsen, president of Trinity Seminary, Blair, Nebraska, born in Sludstrup, Parish Sjalland, Denmark 1892 Rabbi H. Rosenberg was expelled from Temple Beth-Jacob in Brooklyn, New York, for eating pork 1895 The Anti-Saloon League of America organized at Washington, D.C.; opposes the general use of intoxicating liquors; headquartered in Westerville, Ohio If you wish to use these items, please get permission. Permission to post TIH items on LUTHERAN-ROOTS was received from Marvin A. Huggins, C.A., Associate Director Concordia Historical Institute (314)505-7921 801 De Mun Avenue FAX: (314)505-7901 St. Louis, MO 63105-3168 mhuggins@chi.lcms.org Web Page: http://chi.lcms.org/ for now, contributor John Birkholz brotherjohn@imt.net The list owner is Mary D. Taffet mdtaffet@mailbox.syr.edu

FYI -- I chose to forward this message for its thorough, informative, historical style. It is not meant to inflame or upset anyone -- purely informative. Please read and understand it that way. I have a backlog of some 500 messages related to Lutheran persons, Lutheran churches and other Lutheran-connected topics that I have now received through this Personalized Mailing List feature. I will probably condense some of them and send them as a bunch, but it will most likely be after Christmas before I can do this. Once I get caught up with the backlog of messages, then it should settle down a bit. I should have waited to start this service after my papers were done for the semester -- that's why I haven't sent very many so far. One presentation and one paper down, two papers left.... -- Mary Taffet List Administrator for LUTHERAN-ROOTS mdtaffet@syr.edu -------- Original Message -------- Subject: PML Search Result matching Lutheran ANDNOT LUTHERAN-ROOTS* Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 20:11:09 -0800 From: Giftge@t-online.de (Erika Giftge) To: mdtaffet@mailbox.syr.edu ============================================================ A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ ============================================================ Source: GERMAN-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GERMAN-AMERICAN-L] The complicated history of German American religious denominations (fwd) here is David's explanation that I wanred for all of you religious interested people: > Hello Erika > This stuff is right up my alley so to speak. Apart from the English > Americans I do not think that any other nationality group has so much > historical religious diversity as German American does. Here is is my best > summation on the religious history and background of German Americans. > First, there were four main groups of Protestants at the time of the > reformation in Europe. l. Lutherans-l519 break by Martin Luther from Roman > Catholic Church. Spread amoung central and north Germans, Swedes, Danes, > Norweigians, Finns, Latvians and Estonians. Not a radical break from > Catholicism but new ideas of priesthood of all believers and justification > by faith alone and not faith and good works that Catholics said you need. > Many externals of religion are similar to Catholic. > 2. Anglican or Episcopal or Church of England all the > same. Again, not a radical break from Rome. Found mostly in England and > English speaking countries. Some of their churches are more protestant and > some are very Catholic with robes, crosses, incense much ritual. Virginia > was founded by Anglicans. > 3. Calvinist or Reformed Churches a much more radical > break with Rome. Some Germans were or are reformed. They are strongest in > Switzerland, Holland, Scotland and parts of Hungary. In the states we have > Reformed Churches and Presbyterian Churches which are essentially the same. > The Calvinist were the ones who destroyed the statues and altars in Catholic > Churches in the low countries and Germany and the Puritans also called > Congregationalist did the same in England. The Presbyterians did the same in > Scotland. Keep in mind that in Germany, the Kaiser united the Reformed and > Lutheran churches together in many states in the early l800's. The people > who founded Plymouth were English Calvinist who we call Congregationlist. > 4. The most radical movement in the reformation was > the Anabaptist movement. These were originally Swiss people but also Dutch > and German people. The Mennonite Church and the Amish Mennonites are > examples of Anabaptist in the States. Everyone hated them. The Calvinist, > Catholics and Lutherans persecuted them. Some people say the Baptists are > anabaptist because they both share the believe that only adults or persons > over age l6 should be baptised. The Baptist are of mainly English and black > background in USA. There is a small denonimation of German Baptists called > North American Baptist Conference. Technically, the Baptist are not > anabaptist as they are not directly related to the Mennonites. > Now that we have the big four historical divisions down the real fun > begins. What religious affliations do German-Americans belong to > historically speaking. About one third of German-Americans are Roman > Catholics. They came primarily from Bavaria and Rhineland areas where > Catholics are dominant. They are never called evangelical and never called > themselves that. Cities like Chicago, St. Louis, Millwaukee and Cinncinati > have large concentrations of German Catholics. Whole villages left Bavaria > and bought large tracts of land in North and South Dakota and parts of > Minnesota to keep themselves Catholic. > The Lutherans in Germany call themselves Evangelical Church but in the > states they call themselves Evangelcal Lutheran, or Missouri Synod Lutheran > and Wisconsin Synod Lutheran. The synod Lutherans are very conservative and > the Evangelical Lutherans are very liberal. I suspect the Pommeranians that > came here are found now mostly in the Missouri Synod Lutheran Church. > Lutherans are found all over the USA and are the third largest Protestant > group but they are very strong in Pennsylvania, and the mid west. They total > 8,5 million in USA. > The Church of the Brethren is yet another historical German church. > They hold beliefs similar to the Baptist and like the Mennonites they do not > believe in military service and are pacifist. They came from Krefeld, > Germany starting in 1708 and settled mostly in Pennsylvania originally. They > number a quarter of a million. They are also called Dunkards for dunking the > baptised in the river. > The Mennonites started coming over in 1683 to Pennsylvania. They number > between a quarter and a half million. They are divided into at least 20 > sects but the largest are the Mennonite Church and the Amish Mennonites. > Some live modern styles of life and others live like 300 years ago. You see > horse and buggy Mennonnites in Penn., Indiana and Ohio and even in Canada. > Some have moved to Vermont and Maine looking for farm land. > The Moravian Church is essentially German background also. This church > has two centers in USA namely Winston-Salem, North Carolina and Bethlehem, > Penn. The founder was John Hus a Czech priest burned in Constance in mid > l400's before reformation. He advocated bible in language of people not in > Latin as well as services in language of people. He also wanted communion > cup given to people. Roman Church only gave bread not wine to people. Over > 50,000 in USA. > There was a church called the Evangelical and Reformed Church which was > a mixed Lutheran and Calvinist (Reformed) body of 800,000 which merged with > the Congregational Christian Church (English Calvinist background) in l957 > to form the current United Church of Christ the most liberal prostestant > church in USA today. The old Evangelical & Reformed Church was strongest in > Penn., and mid west and was very German. > Finally, where do the Methodist fit in with the Germans. Well, that is > an easy one. The second largest Protestant church in USA is a church called > the United Methodist Church. It has 8,5 million members. In l968 a group of > people of German background called the Evangelical United Brethren who were > Germans in Penn and elsewhere who were essentially Methodist merged with > the Methodist Church to form the current United Methodist Church. The German > segment numbered about 750,000 at the time of the merger. Methodists are > protestant but are of more recent origin than the reformation. They came out > of the Anglican or Episcopal (English) tradition in England and USA and > formed their own church in 1784. > Well, there are other smaller German religious groups like the > Schwenkfelders and the Amana Church Society small pious groups but the above > are the major groups that modern German-Americans either founded or belonged > to. > In this 3rd. week of Advent David In case you want to talk to David personally, mail him at katefw@neca.com ==== GERMAN-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== This GERMAN-AMERICAN list is currently available for adoption! Interested in becoming the list manager? Go here: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/adoptrequest.html ============================== Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

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Good day fellow reseachers. This is the third of a one week's evaluation of an enlarged and expanded CHI TIH feature. If you wish to comment please follow instructions at the end of the article. Today in History (December 17): 1843 Charles Dickens' _A Christmas Carol_ was first published 1874 Eusebius Schultz Henkel, president of the Union Synod of the Evangelical Lutheran Church, died 1879 American revivalist Gipsy Smith, as an older man, married a very young lady; when someone asked him why, he replied, "I'd rather smell perfume than liniment" 1900 Church of the Lutheran Brethren of America (CLBA) organized 1918 Interchurch World Movement of North America began - collapsed within two and a half years 1927 Elling Hove, professor at Luther Seminary, St. Paul, Minnesota, died 1930 Jens Christian Roseland, Augustana Synod leader, died 1943 German Lutheran theologian and Nazi martyr Dietrich Bonhoeffer confided in a letter from prison: "The consciousness of being borne up by a spiritual tradition that goes back for centuries gives one a feeling of confidence and security in the face of all passing strains and stresses" For this trial and evaluation to work and be worthwhile I ask that you help us by; 1) withholding your comments until Saturday the 18th of December so that you do not jump to any conclusions based on a limited viewing. 2) that you direct your comments to me or Mary and not to the mailing list. To do that please do not hit the reply button, but rather open a new e-letter, copy and paste one or both of our e-mail addresses, which are near the bottom of this message, into the address box of your new e-letter [if you use both addresses seperate them by a semicolon and a space]. All we need for your response to this trial is the acronym _ PSA _ in the subject line and your comments in the body of the e-letter. We do not need copies of this message unless you find fault with the message itself. If you wish to use these items, please get permission. Permission to post TIH items on LUTHERAN-ROOTS was received from Marvin A. Huggins, C.A., Associate Director Concordia Historical Institute (314)505-7921 801 De Mun Avenue FAX: (314)505-7901 St. Louis, MO 63105-3168 mhuggins@chi.lcms.org Web Page: http://chi.lcms.org/ for now, contributor John Birkholz brotherjohn@imt.net The list owner is Mary D. Taffet mdtaffet@mailbox.syr.edu

Good day fellow reseachers. This is the second of a one week's evaluation of an enlarged and expanded CHI TIH feature. If you wish to comment please follow instructions at the end of the article. Today in History (December 16): 1714 George Whitefield, English revivalist and founder of Calvinistic Methodism, born in Gloucester, England; he met the Wesley brothers at Oxford in 1732, experienced the "new birth" in 1735 and embarked on his lifelong calling as an evangelist; he usually preached outdoors, to crowds as large as 20,000; he first sailed to America in 1738, where he founded an orphanage near Savannah, Georgia; during the years 1741-43, he broke with the Wesleys over the doctrines of free grace and predestination; Whitefield visited America seven times, and died at Newburyport, Massachusetts 1826 John Ellerton, Anglican clergyman, hymnist and hymn translator, born in London, England; ordained in 1850, he wrote his first hymns for the children at his first church, in Brighton; his hymns and his interest in hymnology led the compilers of every significant hymnal published in the last half of the 19th century to consult with him; his own hymns were published in _Hymns, Original and Translated_ (1888), which included "Savior, Again to Thy Dear Name We Raise," "God the Omnipotent King, Who Ordainest," and "Welcome, Happy Morning" 1848 Georg Sverdrup, professor at Augsburg Theological Seminary, born in Balestrand, near Bergen, Norway 1849 Altenburg College moved to St. Louis during the month of December 1854 Wendish Lutherans landed at Galveston, Texas 1888 Trinity German Evangelical Lutheran Church in Winnepeg, Canada, organized For this trial and evaluation to work and be worthwhile I ask that you help us by; 1) withholding your comments until Saturday the 18th of December so that you do not jump to any conclusions based on a limited viewing. 2) that you direct your comments to me or Mary and not to the mailing list. To do that please do not hit the reply button, but rather open a new e-letter, copy and paste one or both of our e-mail addresses, which are near the bottom of this message, into the address box of your new e-letter [if you use both addresses seperate them by a semicolon and a space]. All we need for your response to this trial is the acronym _ PSA _ in the subject line and your comments in the body of the e-letter. We do not need copies of this message unless you find fault with the message itself. If you wish to use these items, please get permission. Permission to post TIH items on LUTHERAN-ROOTS was received from Marvin A. Huggins, C.A., Associate Director Concordia Historical Institute (314)505-7921 801 De Mun Avenue FAX: (314)505-7901 St. Louis, MO 63105-3168 mhuggins@chi.lcms.org Web Page: http://chi.lcms.org/ for now, contributor John Birkholz brotherjohn@imt.net The list owner is Mary D. Taffet mdtaffet@mailbox.syr.edu

Good mormimg fellow reseachers. This is the first of a one week's evaluation of an enlarged and expanded CHI TIH feature. If you wish to comment please follow instructions at the end of the article. Today in History (December 15): 1754 Paul Henkel, home missionary of the eighteenth-century Lutheran Church, born near Salisbury, North Carolina 1790 Mary (Catlett) Newton, wife of Anglican hymnwriter John Newton ("Amazing Grace") died after 40 years of marriage; her husband outlived her by 17 years 1808 Birth of Henry F. Chorley, English music journalist, in Blackley, England; ** 1811 Johannes Theodorus Vanderkemp, missionary to South Africa, died in South Africa (b. 1747 in Rotterdam, Holland); doctor and pioneer missionary to South Africa; ** 1815 Hartwick Seminary, oldest Lutheran Seminary in America, opened 1830 Birth of Lewis Henry Redner, American Episcopal organist and composer of the hymn tune for "O Little Town of Bethlehem" (ST. LOUIS), in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; ** 1837 Birth of Ethelbert William Bullinger, Anglican clergyman, in Canterbury, England; .... he composed several hymn tunes, including BULLINGER ("I Am Trusting Thee, Lord Jesus") ** 1843 Birth of A. B. (Albert Benjamin) Simpson, Anglican clergyman, on Prince Edward Island, Canada; ....he established the Christian Alliance in 1887 and the International Missionary Alliance in 1889; in 1897 these two societies were joined to form the Christian and Missionary Alliance, one of the most mission-minded of today's Protestant denominations ** 1844 H. C. Wyneken, professor at Springfield Seminary, born 1880 Oswald W. Kreinheder, president of Conover College, born in Buffalo, New York; ** 1896 Thomas B. Pollock, hymnist, died ** More details available-contact brotherjohn- For this trial and evaluation to work and be worthwhile I ask that you help us by; 1) withholding your comments until Saturday the 18th of December so that you do not jump to any conclusions based on a limited viewing. 2) that you direct your comments to me or Mary and not to the mailing list . To do that please do not hit the reply button, but rather open a new e-letter, copy and paste one or both of our e-mail addresses, which are near the bottom of this message, into the address box of your new e-letter [if you use both addresses seperate them by a semicolon and a space]. All we need for your response to this trial is the acronym _ PSA _ in the subject line and your comments in the body of the e-letter. We do not need copies of this message unless you find fault with the message itself. If you wish to use these items, please get permission. Permission to post TIH items on LUTHERAN-ROOTS was received from Marvin A. Huggins, C.A., Associate Director Concordia Historical Institute (314)505-7921 801 De Mun Avenue FAX: (314)505-7901 St. Louis, MO 63105-3168 mhuggins@chi.lcms.org Web Page: http://chi.lcms.org/ for now, contributor John Birkholz brotherjohn@imt.net The list owner is Mary D. Taffet mdtaffet@mailbox.syr.edu

My relatives who lived on Mapes St. were Henry and Marie Fox- common names. According to the 1920 census, they owned a grocery store. I'm assuming that they probably lived in the same building, but don't know anything for sure. Henry was my mother's uncle and she only met him once, in 1929. I'm trying, without much luck, to find out more about his descendants- 2 sons, Fred and William. I would love to find out all I can about where they lived, etc. I also could kick myself for not asking my grandmother about her family before she died. I'm sure that's a common occurrence. Is there any to access the church records?

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FYI -- I just tried this URL, and it works. Here is a more complete link: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Fields/5171/lutheran_churches.html Also, I would like to inform you that the LDS web site has added some new records to their online database. The records for Germany are now available, as well as a few other places that weren't available initially. I found several records for my ancestors through this source. Give it a try. The address is: http://www.familysearch.org/ Many of the church registers have been filmed by the LDS. Any that have been filmed will show up here. -- Mary Taffet mdtaffet@syr.edu -------- Original Message -------- Subject: PML Search Result matching Lutheran ANDNOT LUTHERAN-ROOTS* Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 19:23:22 -0800 From: "Bruce Van Vorst" <matthew@salisbury.net> To: mdtaffet@mailbox.syr.edu ============================================================ A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ ============================================================ Source: NYBROOKLYN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYBROOKLYN] Lutheran churches The Lutheran Churches I found are at this site ....... www.geocities.com/Heartland/Fields/5171/lutheran_churches.html I hope I got this right,at my age,at this hour of night...Who can see dots ? Dolores

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: PML Search Result matching Lutheran ANDNOT LUTHERAN-ROOTS* Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:17:46 -0800 From: "Bruce Van Vorst" <matthew@salisbury.net> To: mdtaffet@mailbox.syr.edu ============================================================ A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ ============================================================ Source: NYBROOKLYN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYBROOKLYN] Lutheran Churches Robin, I found a website on Alta Vista...Lutheran Churches of Brooklyn before 1900. It lists churches such as Our Savior [Scandinavian] 1860 4th ave 80th St.I bookmarked the site if you have trouble pulling it up let me know. Dolores ==== NYBROOKLYN Mailing List ==== Please send posts and queries to: NYBROOKLYN-L@rootsweb.com Your Listowner NancyL916@aol.com

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: PML Search Result matching Lutheran ANDNOT LUTHERAN-ROOTS* Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:10:23 -0800 From: "Anne McAllister" <weidner@twave.net> To: mdtaffet@mailbox.syr.edu ============================================================ A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ ============================================================ Source: CATAWBA-WEST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: St. Johns Lutheran (Mo.) Records Mark Smith died while working on his book. Robert Carpenter finished the manuscript. You can order a copy of his book "Lifting High the Cross for 200 Years, St. John's Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod". This is the most outstanding book published on churches in our area and is a history of all the Lutherans in this area. Book can be ordered from Mrs. Wayne Smith, P. O. Box 123, Conover, NC 28613. I believe it is $25.OO. Can someone tell him the price. Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: J. D. Lail <jlail@foothills.net> To: <CATAWBA-WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 1999 7:50 PM Subject: St. Johns Lutheran (Mo.) Records > The late Mark Smith sent us some information from a partially translated > journal of the Reverend Paul Henkle (early 1800's) several years ago and > we were wondering if the translation had ever been finished. It was being > held at a university iirc. > > >

I'm having a little difficult locating a Mapes St. Here is an overview of some present Lutheran Churches in the Bronx. There are others which I will post later. I always thought that St. Paul's was on Tremont Ave but I was only there once. John DOrnheim Saint Lukes Evangelical Lutheran Church Phone: 718-829-9467 1722 Adams St, Bronx, NY 10460-2609 Our Savior Lutheran Elem & High School Phone: 718-792-5665 1734 Williamsbridge Rd, Bronx, NY 10461-6204 Saint Pauls Evangelical Lutheran Church Phone: 718-822-4535 1891 Mcgraw Ave, Bronx, NY 10462-7301 Saint Pauls Evangelical Lutheran Church Of Tremont Phone: 718-583-7978 1984 Crotona Ave, Bronx, NY 10457-5022 Saint Pauls Evangelical Lutheran Church Of Union Port Phone: 718-829-8849 2134 Newbold Ave, Bronx, NY 10462-4711 Grace Lutheran Church Phone: 718-295-4766 Valentine Ave E, Bronx, NY 10458 Saint Johns Evangelical Lutheran Church Phone: 718-293-0300 1343 Fulton Ave, Bronx, NY 10456-2403 Saint Peters Lutheran Church Phone: 718-231-3515 741 E 219th St, Bronx, NY 10467-5305 First Lutheran Church Of Throggs Neck Phone: 718-829-0650 3075 Baisley Ave, Bronx, NY 10461-6126

MDRengaw@aol.com wrote: > Does anyone know if there is or was a Lutheran Church in Elizabethtown, > Lancaster County, PA. The period I am interested in is around 1865. > > I am researching the family of J.A.C.RINDLAUB and Sophia MUMMERT . Catherine > S. RINDLAUB was born in Elizabethtown on 16 April 1865. > > Thank you. > > Mary Wagner I don't know how old it is, but they can probably give you an answer: CHrist Lutheran Church 75-125 E. High St E'town, PA 17022-1949 Pr. Henri Eberly tele: 717 367-2786 fax 717 367 4395 Hope that this helps, John Dornheim

Does anyone know if there is or was a Lutheran Church in Elizabethtown, Lancaster County, PA. The period I am interested in is around 1865. I am researching the family of J.A.C.RINDLAUB and Sophia MUMMERT . Catherine S. RINDLAUB was born in Elizabethtown on 16 April 1865. Thank you. Mary Wagner

In 1920, my relatives lived on Mapes St. in the Bronx. Would that be near St. Paul's? Thanks to Lois for the info.

Good day fellow researchers, As some of you know I have been contributing to this forum with historical items edited from Concordia Historical Institute's Today in History feature. It occurred to me that there are many more items that might be of interest to us. Beginning Wednesday the 15th of December 1999, with Mary's permission, I am going to enlarge and expand the information that is available to us for a one week trial and evaluation. For this effort to work and be worthwhile I ask that you help us by; 1) withholding your comments until Saturday the 18th of December so that you do not jump to any conclusions based on a limited viewing and see note 3) <grin> 2) that you direct your comments to me or Mary and not to the mailing list . To do that please do not hit the reply button, but rather open a new e-letter, copy and paste one or both of our e-mail addresses, near the bottom of this message, into the address box of your new e-letter [if you use both addresses seperate them by a semicolon and a space]. All we need for your response to this trial is the acronym _ PSA _ in the subject line and your comments in the body of the e-letter. We do not need copies of this message unless you find fault with the message itself. 3) following instructions 1) and 2). Mary is too modest to tell you how busy she is and I don't have time to rework messages that have useless content. [This is not an attempt to create a contest of wills-just being candid] Be advised that because I am using only one "Today in History" resource, we are not favoring or endorsing one Synod over another in this forum. for now, contributor John Birkholz brotherjohn@imt.net The list owner is Mary D. Taffet mdtaffet@mailbox.syr.edu