Hello all, I just heard about some records that have been posted for Salem Lutheran Church in Augusta County, VA. They have been transcribed, and can be found at the following address: ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/va/augusta/cemeteries/salem.txt -- Mary Taffet List Administrator for LUTHERAN-ROOTS mdtaffet@syr.edu

Today in History (February 1): 1839 Dr. C. F. W. Walther arrived in St. Louis this month, and shortly afterward took charge of the pastorate at Dresden and Johannisberg in Perry County, Missouri; he lent active support to the founding of the log- cabin college in Altenburg and for a time served as instructor; the sad task of unmasking the leader of the Saxon emigrants, Martin Stephan, fell to his lot, and it was he who, in the ensuing confusion, brought light and peace to the disturbed consciences of the people 1845 Baylor University was founded in Independence, Texas, under Baptist sponsorship; first known as the Texas Baptist Educational Society, it was moved to Waco in 1866 where it consolidated with Waco University and adopted the present name of Baylor 1850 William Keller Frick, professor, pastor, president of English Evangelical Lutheran Synod of the Northwest, born in Lancaster, Pennsylvania 1863 During February, G. Adolf T. F. Hoenecker, Wisconsin Synod leader, arrived in America 1937 During the month, the church in Germany was required to receive state sanction for its activities; resistors were jailed 1963 Lutheran Free Church (an American denomination with Norwegian roots) merged with The American Lutheran Church; the resulting group had a total membership of nearly 2.5 million; a conservative minority of Lutheran Free churches did not choose to merge and formed the Association of Free Lutheran Congregations If you wish to use these items, please get permission. Permission to post TIH items on LUTHERAN-ROOTS was received from Marvin A. Huggins, C.A., Associate Director Concordia Historical Institute (314)505-7921 801 De Mun Avenue FAX: (314)505-7901 St. Louis, MO 63105-3168 mhuggins@chi.lcms.org Web Page: http://chi.lcms.org/ for today, John Birkholz brotherjohn@imt.net 963 McIver Road Great Falls, MT 59404

Today in History (January 31): 1833 Luther Alexander Gotwald, American Lutheran theologian and educator, born ------ If you wish to use this item, please get permission. Permission to post TIH items on LUTHERAN-ROOTS was received from Marvin A. Huggins, C.A., Associate Director Concordia Historical Institute (314)505-7921 801 De Mun Avenue FAX: (314)505-7901 St. Louis, MO 63105-3168 mhuggins@chi.lcms.org Web Page: http://chi.lcms.org/ for today, John Birkholz brotherjohn@imt.net 963 McIver Road Great Falls, MT 59404

Today in History (January 29): 1824 Nils Olsen Brandt, Kristiania University, 1849;emigrated to America, 1851; pastor in Wisconsin and Iowa; professor at Luther College; editor; organizer of the Norwegian Synod and its vice-president; born in Norway 1851 Andreas Schroedel, president of Minnesota District of Wisconsin Synod, born in Neustadt, Bavaria, Germany 1854 Ernst Carl Ludwig Schulze, president of Atlantic District, born in Huellhorst, Rheinberg, Westphalia, Germany 1866 English church worker Katherine Hankey penned the words to the Gospel song "Tell Me the Old, Old Story" ------ If you wish to use these items, please get permission. Permission to post TIH items on LUTHERAN-ROOTS was received from Marvin A. Huggins, C.A., Associate Director Concordia Historical Institute (314)505-7921 801 De Mun Avenue FAX: (314)505-7901 St. Louis, MO 63105-3168 mhuggins@chi.lcms.org Web Page: http://chi.lcms.org/ for today, John Birkholz brotherjohn@imt.net 963 McIver Road Great Falls, MT 59404

FYI -- I am passing along this message because one of you is researching Stover. This may or may not be related. In any case, these two STOEVER's kept records that might be very helpful to some of you. Does anybody know where the records of these two STOEVER's can be found? -- Mary Taffet List Administrator for LUTHERAN-ROOTS mdtaffet@syr.edu -------- Original Message -------- Subject: PML Search Result matching Lutheran ANDNOT x-loop/LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 16:52:37 -0800 From: Michael O RECK <moreck@juno.com> To: mdtaffet@mailbox.syr.edu ============================================================ A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ ============================================================ Source: PABERKS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PABERKS] Rev Stoever The following is about Rev. Johann Casper STOEVER, who was my ancestor: Descendants of Rev. Johann Kaspar STOVER/ STOEVER Generation No. 1 1. Rev. Johann Kaspar STOVER/2 STOEVER (Dietrich1 STOVER)1,2,3 was born January-1684/85 in Frankenberg, Hessen, Germany, and died Abt. 1738 in bur at sea. He married (1) Gertraudt FREISENEN. He married (2) Maria Magdalena POOLE. Notes for Rev. Johann Kaspar STOVER/ STOEVER: John Casper Stoever, the elder, was a colonist and missionary, who with his son, Johannes Casper Stoever, Jr., a theological student, came from Strasburg, Germany to America on the ship "James Goodwill", Sept. 11, 1728. They were naturalized soon after, the papers dated Jan. 9, 1729. The elder Stoever went almost immediately into Virginia. John Casper Stoever, the elder, received his education at the University of Gussin, Grand Duchy of Baden. His records were kept in German, English, French, Dutch, Hebrew and Latin, have been preserved. He died at sea in 1738 when returning from a soliciting tour of Europe for financial aid for his school and church. His son, the Reverend John Casper Stoever, was the executor of his estate. The following is from Charles Glatfelter, PASTORS AND PEOPLE (Vol. 1), Breinigsville, PA 1980 John Caspar Stoever, the elder, b. 1685 at Frankenberg, Hesse. Was a schoolmaster. Married and had at least two children prior to emigration named John and Elizabeth Catherine. Arrived Philadelphia 11 Sep 1728 as a "Missionary," accompanied by a younger man named John Caspar Stoever, a "Theological Student." The elder JCS married the second time to woman named Maria Magdalena who had lived in North Carolina. In 1733 received a call from the Hebron Lutheran Church in Madison, VA. In 1734 made agreement with his estranged wife that she should move from North Carolina with their son and come to live in Virginia. Later in 1734 he led a delegation from the Hebron Church to seek funds in Europe. Successfully collected money, books, and communion vessels in England and in Germany. Also persuaded a theological student in Germany named George Samuel Klug to come to VA as Stoever's assistant pastor. The elder JCS remained in Germany studying theology until 1739, at which date he began a return trip but died at sea. His will was probated at Philadelphia on 20 March 1739 and later also in Orange Co. VA. His will named his namesake, John Caspar Stoever, as executor, which adds credence to the idea that JCS the younger, who ministered in PA, was his son. John Caspar Stoever, the younger, b. 21 Dec 1707 at Leudorff, Berg, Lower Palatinate, Germany. Immigrated at Philadelphia 11 Sep 1728 in company of elder JCS, and signed arrival documents as a Theological Student. JCS the younger preached regularly and opened registers of pastoral acts in several Lutheran congregations in PA, which included baptisms beginning 19 Nov 1729 and marriages beginning 18 Mar 1730. Was ordainge 8 Apr 1733 by Rev. Christian Schulz. The same day the younger JCS married Maria Catharine Merkel (1715-1795), and they had eleven children. From 1733 to 1742 JCS the younger was the only ordained Lutheran pastor in PA, and the registers he kept show he performed pastoral acts in many congregations scattered from Philadelphia to as far west in PA as Oley in Berks Co. In 1735 JCS the younger moved to live in the Conestoga settlement and owned 200 acres on a branch of Mill Creek in Lancaster Co. The land was south and west of the present Lutheran church in New Holland. JCS was naturalized by the act of 29 Mar 1735 and gained the rights and privileges of one born in the Province of Pennsylvania. In 1740 British Parliament passed a law permitting the courts in the provinces to grant British citizenship to foreigners living in the provinces, and JCS the younger applied and was granted this status on 24 Sep 1741. JCS the younger began ministry west of the Susquehanna River in 1735 and continued southward into Monacy and Hebron parishes in Maryland and Virginia during the period that JCS the elder was on his trip to Europe. On 6 Jun 1743 JCS younger sold his property on Mill Creek and obtained title to 300 acres in Lebanon Twp., now in Lebanon Co., and in 1745 another 100 adjacent acres was accessed. JCS younger enjoyed income from numerous enterprises and became a man of considerable wealth. He was fatally striken during a service on 13 May 1779 and was buried two days later at the Quitopahilla church. His estate was inventoried on 8 Jun 1779, and the estate went to his surviving wife, sons, and sons-in-law. Children of Rev. STOEVER and Gertraudt FREISENEN are: + 2 i. Rev. John Casper II3 STOEVER, born 21-December-1707 in Ludorf, Solingen, Duchey Of Berg, Unter Pfaltz, Germany; died 13-May-1779 in Lebanon Co., Pa., USA. + 3 ii. Anna Elizabetha STOEVER, born Bet. 1708 - 1713 in Ludorg, Germany. 4 iii. Johann Michael STOEVER, born Abt. 1714. 5 iv. Maria Katherina STOEVER, born 26-November-1717. 6 v. Christine Katharina STOEVER, born 27-June-1724. Children of Rev. STOEVER and Maria POOLE are: 7 i. Philip3 STOEVER, born Bef. 10-March-1733/34. 8 ii. Elizabetha STOEVER, born Bef. 10-March-1733/34. Generation No. 2 2. Rev. John Casper II3 STOEVER (Rev. Johann Kaspar STOVER/2, Dietrich1 STOVER) was born 21-December-1707 in Ludorf, Solingen, Duchey Of Berg, Unter Pfaltz, Germany, and died 13-May-1779 in Lebanon Co., Pa., USA. He married Maria Catarina MERCKEL 08-April-1733 in Philadelphia, Pa., daughter of Johann MERCKEL and Maria BRUCHER. She was born 14-May-1715 in Lambsheim, Chur-Pfaltz, Germany, and died 07-October-1795 in Cleona, Lebanon Co., Pa., USA. Notes for Rev. John Casper II STOEVER: He was the first German Lutheran Minister ordained in America. He arrived in America on September 11, 1728. Pastor of the Lutheran Congregation at Hill Church for 46 years. He was also a fluent linguist and a traveling pastor for many churches. Rev. John Casper Stoever II, was married on 8 April 1733, on the same day that he was ordained by Pastor John Christian Schultze. John Casper Stoever II and his wife, Maria Catarina, are buried in the cemetery which adjoins the Hill Lutheran Church at Cleona, Pa. Children of Rev. STOEVER and Maria MERCKEL are: 9 i. Maria Catarina4 STOEVER, born 06-May-1734. 10 ii. John Casper STOEVER III4,5,6, born 10-March-1735/36 in Earltown, Lancaster Co., Pa., USA; died July-1821 in Germantown, Montgomery Co., Ohio, USA. He married Anna Maria Barbara NAGEL 26-April-1757 in Pa.; born September-1736 in Blackenlock, Baden-Durlach, Germany; died 21-September-1821 in Germantown, Mont.Co., Ohio, USA. Notes for John Casper STOEVER III: John Casper Stoever III, was the Montgomery County, Ohio pioneer, as well as one of the wealthiest of the immigrants. He settled in German Township in 1804, having made a previous trip with his son Adam in 1803 to select his land. His sons, Adam, John, Casper and Fredrick, all heads of families, accompanied him and all had a part in the organization of the Lutheran Church in Germantown in 1809. (See Deed Book B, pp. 268-9) A daughter of the son John was the first person interred in the church yard in front of the church, where, July 1821, this venerable patriot was laid to rest. He was a captain in the Revolutionary war. 11 iii. Anna Margaretha STOEVER, born 21-August-1738. 12 iv. Anna Christina STOEVER, born 24-November-1740. 13 v. Sophia Magdalena STOEVER, born 26-April-1743. 14 vi. Anna Maria STOEVER, born 27-January-1745/46. 15 vii. John Adam STOEVER, born 18-June-1748. 16 viii. Tobia STOEVER, born 11-February-1750/51. 17 ix. Johannes STOEVER, born 05-July-1753. 18 x. John Fredrick STOEVER, born 16-December-1755. 19 xi. John Fredrick STOEVER, born 20-September-1759. 3. Anna Elizabetha3 STOEVER (Rev. Johann Kaspar STOVER/2, Dietrich1 STOVER) was born Bet. 1708 - 1713 in Ludorg, Germany. She married Johannes Kuntz/Koontz 25-June-1738 in Earltown, Lancaster Co. Pa.. Child of Anna STOEVER and Johannes Kuntz/Koontz is: 20 i. John4 Kuntz/Koontz, born 26-March-1739; died 25-April-1832 in Page Co., Va.. Endnotes 1. John Casper Stoever, Colonial Pastor and Founder of Churches, By: Rev. R.L. Winters, Ph. D., 1948. 2. Miami Valley Genealogies - 145 Family Records, Vol. 3.. 3. The Ancestry and Descandants of Johann Casper Stoever, 1992. 4. Will of John Casper Stoever, Mont. Co. Probate Records, Book A, p. 197, Indexed "Casper Stiver". 5. Miami Valley Genealogies - 145 Family Records, Vol. 3., Page 111 - 115, Families K-L. 6. The Ancestry and Descandants of Johann Casper Stoever, 1992, Copyright 1992 by Vernon Stiver & Patricia Donaldson.

<<I just received a marriage record from November 1858 which was signed by "Geo. W. Wall, Minister of the Gospel." I assume he was a Lutheran minister. >> In Genealogy it is best not to assume. George Wendelin Wall was a charter member of the Kirchenverein. These churches are often referred to as German Evangelical. You would most likely look for the records in present day UCC churches. There is a St. Marcus UCC church-earliest records 1843. Good luck!

--part1_7f.b52e3.25c5955e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Karen- You are an angel. Thank you! --part1_7f.b52e3.25c5955e_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-yd04.mx.aol.com (rly-yd04.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.4]) by air-yd01.mail.aol.com (v67_b1.21) with ESMTP; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 00:43:17 -0500 Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by rly-yd04.mx.aol.com (v67_b1.21) with ESMTP; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 00:43:09 1900 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA21767; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 21:42:17 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 21:42:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <004501bf6ae4$d7e72240$2029a4cd@mcs.net> From: "Karen E. Grossart" <grossart@mcs.net> Old-To: <LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> References: <c5.13744d1.25c50b26@aol.com> Subject: Re: [LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L] REV. GEO. W. WALL Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 23:42:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: <tpUTED.A.vTF.488k4@bl-14.rootsweb.com> To: LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/427 X-Loop: LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <Sanowaczyk@aol.com> To: <LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2000 9:33 PM Subject: [LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L] REV. GEO. W. WALL > I just received a marriage record from November 1858 which was signed by > "Geo. W. Wall, Minister of the Gospel." I assume he was a Lutheran minister. > > > Does anyone know with which church in St. Louis, Missouri he was affiliated; > if the church is still in existence; and if not, where the church records are? > > Any help will be appreciated. > > Sharon N. > Cincinnati, Ohio Greetings Sharon, I check the 1860 City Directory of St. Louis. In the appendix at the end of the directory is a list of the churches by denomination. The individual listing includes the name of the pastor, the sexton, times of services, number of members and sometimes the year the building was erected. Rev. George W. Wall was the pastor of St. Mark's Evangelical Church, located on Soulard street, cornor of Jackson. Erected, 1845. Number of communicants, 80. Check an online directory for the church under Lutheran or UCC. I have found that several of the Lutheran or UCC churches have been filmed by the LDS, so check their catalog. Happy Hunting, Karen Grossart --part1_7f.b52e3.25c5955e_boundary--

----- Original Message ----- From: <Sanowaczyk@aol.com> To: <LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2000 9:33 PM Subject: [LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L] REV. GEO. W. WALL > I just received a marriage record from November 1858 which was signed by > "Geo. W. Wall, Minister of the Gospel." I assume he was a Lutheran minister. > > > Does anyone know with which church in St. Louis, Missouri he was affiliated; > if the church is still in existence; and if not, where the church records are? > > Any help will be appreciated. > > Sharon N. > Cincinnati, Ohio Greetings Sharon, I check the 1860 City Directory of St. Louis. In the appendix at the end of the directory is a list of the churches by denomination. The individual listing includes the name of the pastor, the sexton, times of services, number of members and sometimes the year the building was erected. Rev. George W. Wall was the pastor of St. Mark's Evangelical Church, located on Soulard street, cornor of Jackson. Erected, 1845. Number of communicants, 80. Check an online directory for the church under Lutheran or UCC. I have found that several of the Lutheran or UCC churches have been filmed by the LDS, so check their catalog. Happy Hunting, Karen Grossart

I just received a marriage record from November 1858 which was signed by "Geo. W. Wall, Minister of the Gospel." I assume he was a Lutheran minister. Does anyone know with which church in St. Louis, Missouri he was affiliated; if the church is still in existence; and if not, where the church records are? Any help will be appreciated. Sharon N. Cincinnati, Ohio

Are you familiar with _A History of the Lutheran Church in South Carolina_, prepared by The History of Synod Committee and published by the SC Synod of the Lutheran Church in America, c.1971? There are 20 references to the name of Pr Martin in the index. Several of the committee members to write this history are still living. It has a good sized bibliography and the compiler of that and author of some early history (W. Richard Fritz) is still living in retirement. WEMueller (augustana@sandtech.net) Hickory, NC ---------- > From: EMartin250@aol.com > To: LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L] Rev Johann Nickel(Nickalous) Martin of St Johns Church in Charleston > Date: Saturday, January 29, 2000 12:34 PM > > I am trying to research my great,great,great great,great grandfather Rev > Johann Nickel Martin who was pastor at St Johns Lutheran Church in Charleston > during the American Revolution. His congregation formed a "German Fusilier" > company that fought in the war and his sons and other family relatives > participated in the war. Several written references indicate that he arrived > in Philadelphia, Pa in either 1754,1756 or 1766 depending on what spelling of > the name or what reference you are reading. > The 1754 reference indicates he came to America aboard the ship Barclay. > Another common Passenger and Immigration book lists the date as 1756 with no > ship name. Another newer Ship and Passenger book by Strassberger and Hinke > shows four similar possible listings for Johann Nickel or Nickalous Martin > with one of them showing a date of 1766. > The references list family members that arrived with Johann Nickel as > wife Anna Catharina (Schmidt) Martin and children Mary Elizabeth and John > Leonhard. An additional listing is for Johann Nickel's father Valentin Martin > that is listed in some Ship List references as having arrived in 1756 with > wife Anna Elizabeth and daughter Anna Catharina Martin. The family is listed > as having emigrated to Philadelphia in the list of Berkenfelder emigrants > from Berkenfeld and Herrstein area of Germany (now Rhineland-Pfalz). The > Berkenfeld emigrant listing also shows Schmidt families arriving in 1756 and > Zimmerman and Weber families the same year. The reference for Berkenfeld > emigrants is Robert Mosdorf's "Die Auswanderung aus dem Birkenfelder Land". > Bonn: Ludwig Rohrschield Verlag, 1939, page 87-91. I do not have a copy of > this reference but would like to know of such availability of this source. > I also would love to know if records may be available now that show > listings of information in Philadelphia about the family after their arrival. > Johann Nickel is listed as born 1724 in Zweibrucken (Deux- Ponts) > Rehinish Bavaria and married to Anna Catharina Schmidt 15 Feb 1746 at > Oldenburg-Herrstein Bavaria Germany. He died 27 July 1797 in or near > Charleston, S.C. (burial location unknown). > > I would appreciate any help in solving this conflict of information and > or any additional information. Thank you! > > Ed Martin

I am trying to research my great,great,great great,great grandfather Rev Johann Nickel Martin who was pastor at St Johns Lutheran Church in Charleston during the American Revolution. His congregation formed a "German Fusilier" company that fought in the war and his sons and other family relatives participated in the war. Several written references indicate that he arrived in Philadelphia, Pa in either 1754,1756 or 1766 depending on what spelling of the name or what reference you are reading. The 1754 reference indicates he came to America aboard the ship Barclay. Another common Passenger and Immigration book lists the date as 1756 with no ship name. Another newer Ship and Passenger book by Strassberger and Hinke shows four similar possible listings for Johann Nickel or Nickalous Martin with one of them showing a date of 1766. The references list family members that arrived with Johann Nickel as wife Anna Catharina (Schmidt) Martin and children Mary Elizabeth and John Leonhard. An additional listing is for Johann Nickel's father Valentin Martin that is listed in some Ship List references as having arrived in 1756 with wife Anna Elizabeth and daughter Anna Catharina Martin. The family is listed as having emigrated to Philadelphia in the list of Berkenfelder emigrants from Berkenfeld and Herrstein area of Germany (now Rhineland-Pfalz). The Berkenfeld emigrant listing also shows Schmidt families arriving in 1756 and Zimmerman and Weber families the same year. The reference for Berkenfeld emigrants is Robert Mosdorf's "Die Auswanderung aus dem Birkenfelder Land". Bonn: Ludwig Rohrschield Verlag, 1939, page 87-91. I do not have a copy of this reference but would like to know of such availability of this source. I also would love to know if records may be available now that show listings of information in Philadelphia about the family after their arrival. Johann Nickel is listed as born 1724 in Zweibrucken (Deux- Ponts) Rehinish Bavaria and married to Anna Catharina Schmidt 15 Feb 1746 at Oldenburg-Herrstein Bavaria Germany. He died 27 July 1797 in or near Charleston, S.C. (burial location unknown). I would appreciate any help in solving this conflict of information and or any additional information. Thank you! Ed Martin

FYI -- One of you is researching ROLOFF in the Prussia area. This may or may not be pertinent to your research. -- Mary Taffet List Administrator for LUTHERAN-ROOTS mdtaffet@syr.edu -------- Original Message -------- Subject: PML Search Result matching Lutheran ANDNOT x-loop/LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:12:50 -0800 From: volunteer <> To: mdtaffet@mailbox.syr.edu ============================================================ A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ ============================================================ Source: GC-Prussia Obituaries (please go to link upper left corner) Queries will be deleted without notice URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Prussia/GeneralObits?read=114 Subject: ROLOFF, Mrs. Charles 1839-1910 Surname: ROLOFF, WAKEMAN, SUMMERS, BECKER, RAHN ------------------------- Geneva Smith Collection; St. Joseph Co., MI; Dec 1910 MRS. CHAS. ROLOFF DIED YESTERDAY. OLD AND RESPECTED RESIDENT OF BURR OAK VILLAGE HAD BEEN AN INVALID FOR YEARS After a long long illness, Mrs. Chas. ROLOFF passed away at eight o'clock yesterday morning - Wednesday, November 16 - at the home on North Third street in this village, where she has so long resided. Mrs. ROLOFF was in the 71st years of her age, having been born September 17, 1839, in Germany, Province of Prussia. On December 2, 1866, she was united in marriage with Charles ROLOFF, at Sturgis, Mich., which was then their home, and to them were born two daughters, who pased away some years ago. All during the declning health and extended sickness of Mrs. ROLOFF her faithful husband has been with her constantly, caring for her in a manner that is truly commendable. The deceased leaves, besides her husband, a grandson, Albert RAHN, and sister, Mrs. A. F. WAKEMAN, both of Sturgis. The funeral services will be held tomorrow afternoon - Friday - at 2 o'clock at the house and about 2:20 o'clock at the Lutheran church, Rev. Noffze preaching the discourse. Burial will be in the village cemetery. CARD OF THANKS. - We wish through The Acorn to return sincere thanks to the neighbors and friends of our late sister for the great kindness shown during her illness and death. Mrs. A. F. WAKEMAN, Mrs. Fred SUMMERS. In a further article: Mrs. A. F. WAKEMAN and Mrs. Fred SUMMERS, from Sturgis, were here Tuesday doing needed work at the late home of their sister, Mrs. Chas. ROLOFF, who passed away last week. In our mention of the relatives of the deceased, The Acorn should have said that she leaves, besides husband and grandson, five brothers and sisters - Mrs. WAKEMAN and Mrs. SUMMERS of Sturgis, Fred BECKER of Kansas, Wm BECKER of Storm Lake, Iowa, and Chas. of Canada. from the papers of Geneva Smith provided by Shirley Elmer

My name is Jeff Lintner. I am new to this list, but subscribe to a few others. I am interested to see if anyone might have some suggestions as I am rather stumped. I am looking for information regarding my ancestors, specifically George Lintner, b. 1739 and his nephew, George Ames Lintner, b. 1796. Regarding George Lintner, I am looking for early marriage records, or death records via the Lutheran community/churches in NYC between 1766 and 1771. It is my belief that my ggggg grandfather George was married to a woman previous to the one we know about. I have had a problem going through the civil records for that time. Also, there is a notation from "Calendar of New York Historical Manuscripts - English 1664-1776" that on April 18, 1774 'Muhlenberg, minister of the Lutheran Congregation of New York that Stephen Schreiber and George Lintner had partaken of the Lord's supper'. I am interested to know if anyone can provide a suggestion for me in locating the records for this congregation or any references for this minister. Finally, I know that George was from Daschensdorf, Bavaria and left in 1766. Daschensdorf is near Erlangen which is near Nurnberg, Germany. Anyone with any suggestions on how to go about attempting to locate church records in that area would answer my prayers. Regarding George Ames Lintner, he was born in 1793 and died approximately 1836. He is the son of Albertus Lintner and lived in Schoarie as a Lutheran minister at Schoharie, Middleburgh and Cobleskill, NY. It is noted by Simms, George A. "preached the first sermon at the Geisenberg Church." According to land records, his wife, Mary Elizabeth Waggoner, on August 11th, 1849, sold a part of a lot, usually known as "Lutheran Church Lot', to George Hall for $150.00. Lutheran Church Lot was comprised of the grave yard and land upon which the church stood. I would be very interested to know if I could find the records for the Geisenberg Church, which has long been gone. The church was in what is now know as Montgomery County, NY. In a book titled "The American Lutheran Church, historically, doctrinally, and practically delineated, in several occasional discourses:", by S.S.Schmucker, there is Dr. G. A. Lintner, Dr. of Divinity, Pastor, Schoharie, N.Y. He was of the Hartwick Synod, N.Y. He did the following: Lutheran Magazine, Co-editor, 2 vols. 1827-1828, Liturgy, published by General Synod, 1832. Sermon at the Installation of Rev. Lawyers, 1828. Augsburg Confession with notes, 1837. Sermon on Truth as the Bond of Union, 1841. I am interested in any leads that may offer me information regarding either of these two ancestors. I also understand that I am making some rather large requests for the newest member to this list. While no one should feel obligated in anyway to look around for my ancestors, any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you. Jeff L.

Sanowaczyk@aol.com wrote: > My g-g-grandparent's marriage license was issued in Naperville, DuPage > County, IL and shows a Rev. H. Liesmann, Pastor of the Evangelical Lutheran > (illegible), married them in July 1858. > > I have not been able to locate the name of the church or where the records > are. I would like to search the church's baptismal records for their > children. Any suggestions? I already contacted Eden Seminary and the > Missouri Synod and struck out with both, and the county birth records were > destroyed in a fire. > > Gratefully, > > Sharon N. > Cincinnati, OH > > There are also another six (ELCA) Lutheran churches in Naperville. I would think that there would be a conference of sorts established there that would enable you to narrow down the field. Surely not all of them were around in 1858 but one of them might be a remnant. John Dornheim

Today in History (January 23): 1789 Georgetown College was founded by Father John Carroll in Washington, D.C. - the first Roman Catholic college in America 1859 Knut Olafson Lundeberg, president of Church of Lutheran Brethren, born in Kviteseid, Telemark, Norway Martin Willkomm, president of Saxon Free Church, born 1882 Johann Friedrich Buenger, follower of Stephan, emigrated to America; died at St. Louis, Missouri; student at Leipzig University (1829-37); helped found and was one of the first instructors at Concordia College in Altenburg; teacher in St. Louis; pastor in St. Louis at Immanuel; Walther called him "the American Lutheran Valerius Herberger"; president of Western District (1863-75); founder of Lutheran Hospital in St. Louis as well as the Orphans' Home and the Old Folks' Home there If you wish to use these items, please get permission. Permission to post TIH items on LUTHERAN-ROOTS was received from Marvin A. Huggins, C.A., Associate Director Concordia Historical Institute (314)505-7921 801 De Mun Avenue FAX: (314)505-7901 St. Louis, MO 63105-3168 mhuggins@chi.lcms.org Web Page: http://chi.lcms.org/ for today, John Birkholz brotherjohn@imt.net 963 McIver Road Great Falls, MT 59404

Karen- Thank you so very much for your help! I was really stumped. I will follow up on your suggestion. Sharon

Today in History (January 22): 1815 Philipp Fleischmann; itinerant minister among the "separated Lutherans" in Pomerania and Hesse-Nassau; founder of Teachers' Seminary of Missouri Synod; pastor in several places, including Kendallville, Indiana; born in Regensburg, Bavaria 1821 Georg Philipp Speckhard, first director of Lutheran Schools for the Deaf, born in Wersau, Hesse, Germany If you wish to use these items, please get permission. Permission to post TIH items on LUTHERAN-ROOTS was received from Marvin A. Huggins, C.A., Associate Director Concordia Historical Institute (314)505-7921 801 De Mun Avenue FAX: (314)505-7901 St. Louis, MO 63105-3168 mhuggins@chi.lcms.org Web Page: http://chi.lcms.org/ for today, John Birkholz brotherjohn@imt.net 963 McIver Road Great Falls, MT 59404

Hi, Sharon, According to a list of the early Lutheran churches in the Chicago area, there was a Lutheran church in Naperville started in 1857, named St. John, which is now with the United Church of Christ. St John United Church-Christ 1190 Olesen Dr, Naperville, IL 60540 Phone: (630)961-9942 Even though you wrote that you contacted the Edens Seminary which I think houses the archives for the UCC, you might try the church directly. Karen Grossart ----- Original Message ----- From: <Sanowaczyk@aol.com> To: <LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 8:45 PM Subject: [LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L] Rev. H. Liesmann > My g-g-grandparent's marriage license was issued in Naperville, DuPage > County, IL and shows a Rev. H. Liesmann, Pastor of the Evangelical Lutheran > (illegible), married them in July 1858. > > I have not been able to locate the name of the church or where the records > are. I would like to search the church's baptismal records for their > children. Any suggestions? I already contacted Eden Seminary and the > Missouri Synod and struck out with both, and the county birth records were > destroyed in a fire. > > Gratefully, > > Sharon N. > Cincinnati, OH > > > >

My g-g-grandparent's marriage license was issued in Naperville, DuPage County, IL and shows a Rev. H. Liesmann, Pastor of the Evangelical Lutheran (illegible), married them in July 1858. I have not been able to locate the name of the church or where the records are. I would like to search the church's baptismal records for their children. Any suggestions? I already contacted Eden Seminary and the Missouri Synod and struck out with both, and the county birth records were destroyed in a fire. Gratefully, Sharon N. Cincinnati, OH

Ray, I see you have BAER among your names. BAER is in my line also. Where are your BAER's? Mine came from Switzerland, briefly through PA, and then down to the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia. -- Mary Taffet List Administrator for LUTHERAN-ROOTS mdtaffet@syr.edu P.S. It's best to change the subject line when you reply from a digest. Raymond Ziemer wrote: > > Mary - > Thanks for thinking of sending the HENRICH info. > As far as I know, my grgrandpa Fritz HEINRICH was an only child who > came over with his mother only, and then right to Chicago. > I know what you're saying about internet searches. In most cases, I > don't bother with that surname, just because of the "false drops". > > Ray Ziemer > Warrenville, IL > Researching ZIEMER, BONOW, KRUECKE/KRUECKOW, GERGOLLA, HEINRICH, ROLOFF, > BAER, HARDT > Pommern, Ost/West Preussen > Chicago, IL