Hello Everyone, I'm searching for any possible information about an early church in the Jefferson Twp. (later boro) area of southern Allegheny County. We have a very faded baptismal certificate for my GrGrandfather, Christian Kohl, from 1848. It looks like it says St. Stephens Church, and the pastors signature is possibly Rev. Guenther? Could anyone please give us some information about this church or this pastor? Any help would be very much appreciated. Pat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail � Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

Yes, John, that is why I stressed LCMS because that is what I am. Since I cannot belong to everything, I can only help with what I have available. It is up to someone else to offer to help from the other denominations. At least if you tell me to look up the present day address of a church, and I say it is not listed, your field of search has been narrowed down that much more because you now know it is not LCMS. My offer still stands. Dorene John Dornheim wrote: > " > > Which is all well and good if the church was LCMS. It overlooks the 55 ELCA churches in Pittsburgh area. > > John Dornheim

"Dorene L. Kaiser" wrote: > Hi, > > I have the Lutheran Annual listing all the current church. I cannot tell you what church was > there in 1868, but I can tell you what is where today for anyone who wants to know. David, > since there are 15 churches in Pittsburgh today, I will send the > list directly to you, if you want them. Let me know. > > Another source for researchers is Concordia Historical Institute, if your ancestors belonged to > the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod. > > Address is http://chi.lcms.org/ > > click on "services available" and then "reference & research" - here you can see what all is > available (or might be). Then you will either have to go in person and search or request it by > mail. (for a fee) > > David, they can tell you which church was there then for that Pastor. > > Good luck. > > Dorene > Which is all well and good if the church was LCMS. It overlooks the 55 ELCA churches in Pittsburgh area. John Dornheim

Hi, I have the Lutheran Annual listing all the current church. I cannot tell you what church was there in 1868, but I can tell you what is where today for anyone who wants to know. David, since there are 15 churches in Pittsburgh today, I will send the list directly to you, if you want them. Let me know. Another source for researchers is Concordia Historical Institute, if your ancestors belonged to the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod. Address is http://chi.lcms.org/ click on "services available" and then "reference & research" - here you can see what all is available (or might be). Then you will either have to go in person and search or request it by mail. (for a fee) David, they can tell you which church was there then for that Pastor. Good luck. Dorene David Seefeldt wrote: > I am looking for a Lutheran Church in Pittsburgh PA / Allegheny County, PA. My GGrandparents were married by the minister Rev. Niman at his house. Below is what I have from the family Bible. > > "Peter Feiden and Maria Jung were married on Jun 25 1868, Allegheny County, PA; By Rev. Niman, in Rev. Niman's house." Maria and her parents, Peter and Rosina (?) Jung belonged to Rev. Niman's Church. Any help in locating this church is appreciated. > > David Seefeldt > seefeldt@in-motion.net

I am looking for a Lutheran Church in Pittsburgh PA / Allegheny County, PA. My GGrandparents were married by the minister Rev. Niman at his house. Below is what I have from the family Bible. "Peter Feiden and Maria Jung were married on Jun 25 1868, Allegheny County, PA; By Rev. Niman, in Rev. Niman's house." Maria and her parents, Peter and Rosina (?) Jung belonged to Rev. Niman's Church. Any help in locating this church is appreciated. David Seefeldt seefeldt@in-motion.net

Parents of Bessie Viola MAXWELL List below. ANY information on Esther McNay, Both died in Montgomery Co. OH John Henry SCHELL b: 06/04/1778 d: 1845 +Margaret Elizabeth LESHER b: 01/09/1780 d: 11/22/1846 Jonathan S SCHELL Sr b: 12/10/1810 d: 06/15/1897 +Elizabeth GEBHART b: 04/08/1811 d: 04/30/1886 David Peter SCHELL b: 04/19/1850 d: 05/21/1927 +Mary Magdalena STINE b: 1849 d: 05/30/1925 George Alfred SCHELL b: 03/01/1886 d: 09/1968 +Bessie Viola MAXWELL b: 08/20/1888 d: 01/21/1980 Emerson DeWitt SCHELL b: 10/15/1917 d: 09/1973 +Esther MCNAY b: UNKNOWN d: Abt. 1948

Wusterbarth looks to have been in Pommern. The LDS has filmed many of the records from Prussia. If you go to their family search site, they have civil registrations from Wusterbarth. You need to find out what parish that would have been part of (which I know can be done, just not how) and look up the parish in the place finder at the LDS site. I've been able to find extensive records on the part of Prussia I'm interested in.

UNSUBSCRIBE Jody and Jeff Niles wrote: > > Dear List: > I have traced my gg grandfather's family back to Wusterbarth, Prussia now known as Ostre Bardo, Poland. It is just south of Bialogard in present day Poland. Our family has always been Lutheran, and my gg grandfather helped found the first Lutheran church in the town to which he emigrated to in America. > > Ernest Frederick Kamholz emigrated in 1873 to America. He was born in 1853 in Wusterbarth, Prussia. Where would I be able to locate any church records for this timeframe or earlier? Polish State Archives? I'm unclear on the regions of Poland. Would someone be so kind as to identify which region Bialogard now resides? > > Sorry if I have so many questions, but I'm new to researching this area so I really appreciate any help or suggestions. > Thanks-Jody Niles > > Researching: Czermaz, Czerwinski, Drecka, Kamholz, Steig, Steffen, Thurow, Twaroske

Dear List: I have traced my gg grandfather's family back to Wusterbarth, Prussia now known as Ostre Bardo, Poland. It is just south of Bialogard in present day Poland. Our family has always been Lutheran, and my gg grandfather helped found the first Lutheran church in the town to which he emigrated to in America. Ernest Frederick Kamholz emigrated in 1873 to America. He was born in 1853 in Wusterbarth, Prussia. Where would I be able to locate any church records for this timeframe or earlier? Polish State Archives? I'm unclear on the regions of Poland. Would someone be so kind as to identify which region Bialogard now resides? Sorry if I have so many questions, but I'm new to researching this area so I really appreciate any help or suggestions. Thanks-Jody Niles Researching: Czermaz, Czerwinski, Drecka, Kamholz, Steig, Steffen, Thurow, Twaroske

Hi, Dorene - I did a double-take when I saw the name Margarethe KAISER, because I am also looking for a woman by this name. A Margarethe married my great uncle Willie ZIEMER in Chicago, but that was 30 June 1909. Time and age indicate this is a later generation - but could this lady be related to your family? I don't know where she came from, or where she went afterward. Willie died in 1915, and I don't believe they had any children. I can't find any other references to Margarethe since, so I have guessed that she went back to her family and/or remarried in a different state or something... Raymond Ziemer Warrenville, IL Researching ZIEMER, BONOW, HEINRICH, HARDT, GERGOLLA, ROLOFF in the Chicago area

Dorene, What info do you have on your Great Uncle? My Grandfather was also an Adolph (Julius Kaiser 1886-1927) in Cincinnati. Let me give you my Kaisers in case any ring a bell: descendants of Friendrich: Adolph who had a son Adolph Kaiser with brother Charles Kaiser. Sons of Adolph and Mollie Kayser were Franklin Kayser (1918-1994) and Charles and a sister Evelyn. The name was changed about 1917. Yours was Kayser before Kaiser? Interesting! I've looked through LDS films at out local church to no avail. If I knew where to look in Germany I'd go. Had a friend look through emigration records in Berlin. He could find no definite match. Thanks!!!! karen -----Original Message----- From: Dorene L. Kaiser <countryemu@c-magic.com> To: LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com <LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, August 06, 2000 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L] Margarethe KAISER >Hi, Thanks. > >Actually, I am back to David Kayser and Anna Leuppart who were married in 1660 in Selb, >Bavaria, Ger. Once I had the ship list I hired some one in Germany (back in the 1980s and LDS >was not online), who literally went from town to town and followed their trail backwards to >Bavaria where the church records gave out because of war destruction. I only have the direct >line and did not ask for the siblings (now I wish I had). So our lines could still cross >somewhere in those first 5 generations, especially since I had an uncle named Adolph and there >were a number of Friedrichs in my line, including my father's middle name. Before that, I >hired some one at LDS to research the records in Salt Lake City - that may be where I found out >the ship info. Don't give up. > >Dorene >

Dorene, I have been doing research on the Kaiser line as well. They too were Lutherans. My Great Grandfather Adolph Kaiser (1858-1917)(Father Friedrich Kaiser details unknown) was buried in Vine Street Hill Cemetary in Cincinnati, Ohio Wish I could get my Kaisers back as far as yours! You're doin' good! karen kayser -----Original Message----- From: Dorene L. Kaiser <countryemu@c-magic.com> To: LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com <LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, August 05, 2000 4:39 PM Subject: [LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L] Margarethe KAISER >Hi, > >Herman Rudolph Kaiser b. 7-25-1811 Strohe, Ger. d. 1-7-1894 Freistatt, MO, came to America >with 6 of his 8 children landing in Baltimore, MD on 8-8-1854. Their original plan (?) was to >go to Cincinnati, OH. However, 2 yrs. later they are in Venedy, IL. Around 1879 the family >(except for one son) moved to Freistatt, MO, from where they scattered far and wide. > >I do have info on some of the children but want to find out about the oldest, Margarethe >Christine Auguste KAISER b. 8-21-1836 Bramsche. She is listed on the ship records but not >since. They say she died in Baltimore in 1854, but I have not found proof. Other >possibilities: died while traveling (where and how do I find out); if they went to Cincinnati >did she die there (did not find it there either)?? > >At any rate, she did not show up in Venedy with the rest of the family. > >The other children are: > >2. Regine Charlotte Amalie b. 2-2-1838 Bramsche, Ger. d. 1-4-1895 Freistatt, MO > m. 11-27-1856 Venedy, IL Johann H. C. BIERMANN >3. Hermann Rudolph Leonhardt b. 9-23-1839 Bramsche d. 5-17-1900 Freiststatt > m. 2-27-1862 Venedy, IL Anna Maria Louise AUF DEM BRINKE b. 1-1-1843 d. 7-8-1881 >Freistatt > THIS IS MY LINE. >4. Rudolph Bernhard Ernst b. 1-13-1842 Bramsche d. 12-29-1907 St. Paul, IL > m. 10-15-1865 Venedy, IL Maria Julianna BOJE >5. Hermann Heinrich Friedrich b. 1-13-1844 Bramsche d. 10-20-1917 Freistatt > m. 6-13-1869 Venedy, IL Marie Elizabeth BROCKSCHMIDT >7. Ernst August Rudolph b. 4-23-1851 Bramsche d. 10-6-1916 Freistatt > m. 5-13-1875 Venedy Dorothea Wilhelmina MOELLER > >#s 6 (Elise Johanne b. 8-4-1848 d. 8-16-1848) and 8 (b. 4-29-1853 d. 10-5-1853) were born and >died in Bramsche. Their mother, (Herman Rudolph's first wife) Maria Christine SCHUERMANN b. >8-9-1813 >d. 6-2-1853 was also born and died in Bramsche. > >Herman Rudolph's second wife: m. 11-20-1856 Venedy, IL Katherine (nee PETERS) AUF DEM BRINKE - >widow with 5 children (oldest is wife of #3 above.) > >Since they were Lutherans their entire lives, Margarethe has to be buried in a Lutheran >cemetary somewhere, but where is the question. Any help is appreciated. > >Thanks, > >Dorene Kaiser > > > >

Hi, Thanks. Actually, I am back to David Kayser and Anna Leuppart who were married in 1660 in Selb, Bavaria, Ger. Once I had the ship list I hired some one in Germany (back in the 1980s and LDS was not online), who literally went from town to town and followed their trail backwards to Bavaria where the church records gave out because of war destruction. I only have the direct line and did not ask for the siblings (now I wish I had). So our lines could still cross somewhere in those first 5 generations, especially since I had an uncle named Adolph and there were a number of Friedrichs in my line, including my father's middle name. Before that, I hired some one at LDS to research the records in Salt Lake City - that may be where I found out the ship info. Don't give up. Dorene kmagella wrote: > Dorene, I have been doing research on the Kaiser line as well. They too > were Lutherans. My Great Grandfather Adolph Kaiser (1858-1917)(Father > Friedrich Kaiser details unknown) was buried in Vine Street Hill Cemetary in > Cincinnati, Ohio Wish I could get my Kaisers back as far as yours! You're > doin' good! karen kayser > ->

Hello List, This is my first message to the list, and I'm hoping someone can help. Would anyone know if there was a Lutheran church in Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA about 1850? My family settled there, somewhere near Dravosburg. The family I'm looking for is Henry and Katherine Kohl and their two small sons, Jacob and Abraham. Henry was a coal miner. I don't know when Lutheran churches were established in the area. Could anyone tell me where I might search for early church records? I would be very grateful for any suggestions. Pat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/

Perhaps if you tried: The Lutheran Roots Genealogy Exchange you will find what you are seeking. (http://www.aal.org)

"Mary D. Taffet" wrote: > John, > > Does the church you found have a name? I imagine Velma will need it if > she tries to contact the church. > > -- Mary > Umm, yes. Washingtonville Lutheran Church. John

John, Does the church you found have a name? I imagine Velma will need it if she tries to contact the church. -- Mary John Dornheim wrote: > > velma nelson wrote: > > > I am hoping to find Lutheran Church records of the marriage of my great > > grandfather-g grandmother who were Lutherans and lived in > > Washingtonville, Montour Co. PA. This is what I know: In 1849 David > > BERGER b. 1827 married Elizabeth B. (maiden name unknown) b. 1830. She > > was a member of the Lutheran Church. They lived in Washingtonville, PA > > and had 2 sons: Calvin b. 1851 and John b.1856. They moved to Keosauqua > > IA before 1859. David was a wagonmaker by trade. > > Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. > > velmanelson@webtv.net > > Well, there is still a small church in Washingtonville. > > Rt 54, PO Box 181 > Zip 17777 > > 717 437 2652 > > John Dornheim

velma nelson wrote: > I am hoping to find Lutheran Church records of the marriage of my great > grandfather-g grandmother who were Lutherans and lived in > Washingtonville, Montour Co. PA. This is what I know: In 1849 David > BERGER b. 1827 married Elizabeth B. (maiden name unknown) b. 1830. She > was a member of the Lutheran Church. They lived in Washingtonville, PA > and had 2 sons: Calvin b. 1851 and John b.1856. They moved to Keosauqua > IA before 1859. David was a wagonmaker by trade. > Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. > velmanelson@webtv.net Well, there is still a small church in Washingtonville. Rt 54, PO Box 181 Zip 17777 717 437 2652 John Dornheim

I am hoping to find Lutheran Church records of the marriage of my great grandfather-g grandmother who were Lutherans and lived in Washingtonville, Montour Co. PA. This is what I know: In 1849 David BERGER b. 1827 married Elizabeth B. (maiden name unknown) b. 1830. She was a member of the Lutheran Church. They lived in Washingtonville, PA and had 2 sons: Calvin b. 1851 and John b.1856. They moved to Keosauqua IA before 1859. David was a wagonmaker by trade. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. velmanelson@webtv.net

Hi, Herman Rudolph Kaiser b. 7-25-1811 Strohe, Ger. d. 1-7-1894 Freistatt, MO, came to America with 6 of his 8 children landing in Baltimore, MD on 8-8-1854. Their original plan (?) was to go to Cincinnati, OH. However, 2 yrs. later they are in Venedy, IL. Around 1879 the family (except for one son) moved to Freistatt, MO, from where they scattered far and wide. I do have info on some of the children but want to find out about the oldest, Margarethe Christine Auguste KAISER b. 8-21-1836 Bramsche. She is listed on the ship records but not since. They say she died in Baltimore in 1854, but I have not found proof. Other possibilities: died while traveling (where and how do I find out); if they went to Cincinnati did she die there (did not find it there either)?? At any rate, she did not show up in Venedy with the rest of the family. The other children are: 2. Regine Charlotte Amalie b. 2-2-1838 Bramsche, Ger. d. 1-4-1895 Freistatt, MO m. 11-27-1856 Venedy, IL Johann H. C. BIERMANN 3. Hermann Rudolph Leonhardt b. 9-23-1839 Bramsche d. 5-17-1900 Freiststatt m. 2-27-1862 Venedy, IL Anna Maria Louise AUF DEM BRINKE b. 1-1-1843 d. 7-8-1881 Freistatt THIS IS MY LINE. 4. Rudolph Bernhard Ernst b. 1-13-1842 Bramsche d. 12-29-1907 St. Paul, IL m. 10-15-1865 Venedy, IL Maria Julianna BOJE 5. Hermann Heinrich Friedrich b. 1-13-1844 Bramsche d. 10-20-1917 Freistatt m. 6-13-1869 Venedy, IL Marie Elizabeth BROCKSCHMIDT 7. Ernst August Rudolph b. 4-23-1851 Bramsche d. 10-6-1916 Freistatt m. 5-13-1875 Venedy Dorothea Wilhelmina MOELLER #s 6 (Elise Johanne b. 8-4-1848 d. 8-16-1848) and 8 (b. 4-29-1853 d. 10-5-1853) were born and died in Bramsche. Their mother, (Herman Rudolph's first wife) Maria Christine SCHUERMANN b. 8-9-1813 d. 6-2-1853 was also born and died in Bramsche. Herman Rudolph's second wife: m. 11-20-1856 Venedy, IL Katherine (nee PETERS) AUF DEM BRINKE - widow with 5 children (oldest is wife of #3 above.) Since they were Lutherans their entire lives, Margarethe has to be buried in a Lutheran cemetary somewhere, but where is the question. Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Dorene Kaiser