Karl, Yes, there should be more. Why not browse through the website to find out what they may have? Roger Rhoads -----Original Message----- From: Karl Struck [mailto:struck@rabun.net] Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 10:11 AM To: LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L] Struck ancestors Roger Many thanks for your responce to my quest. I have the ship information and passenger list from "Germans to America" books. Would the US Natl. Archives tell me any more? As I stated I think my father was born in Berlin, do you think NARA would be of any help? Karl

Lois To get on the "The Ships List" send a e-mail to: TheShipsList-L-request@rootsweb.com [for LIST Mode] or, TheShipsList-D-request@rootsweb.com [for DIGEST Mode] Put nothing in the Subject line. In the message area just put the word SUBSCRIBE That should do it. You will get a message from "The Ships List" telling you that you have been added to the list. Karl ----- Original Message ----- From: <Loisjann@aol.com> To: <LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L] Struck ancestors > Hello! Tried to get into the ships list website but could not. Can you help? > Thanks Lois Scozzari > > >

Looking for information on the Neumann Family from Kalthof, West Prussia and the Witt Family from Obernessau, West Prussia. Johann Neumann married Elizabeth Mutz - they were believed to be of the Lutheran Faith. They had nine children. The oldest of which was my gr gr grandfather Karl Heinrich Neumann b. 3-5-1859 in Kalthof, West Prussia. (His other 8 eight siblings are unknown) Karl would immigrate to America approx 1883 with his friend Johann Thimm. After coming to America he joined the Mennonite Church and married Henrietha Elisabeth Witt b. 3-11-1858 in Obernessau, West Prussia. Also believed to be originally of the Lutheran Faith. They settled in Kansas and Oklahoma. Henrietta was the daughter of Adam Witt and Karolina Braun. Adam was a forestry worker who had a tree fall on him and he died early leaving Karolina to raise the children alone. They had the following children: 1) Margaret Witt 2) Augusta Witt 3) Wilhemina Witt 4) Annie Witt 5) Henrietha Witt b. 3-11-1858 6) Eva Witt b. March 22, 1860 Married: Andreas Kliewer 7) Karl Witt b. 1866 Married: Viola Foster. Henrietha, Eva, & Karl all came to America. What happened to the other siblings is unknown. If anyone is researching these families and has any further information please feel free to contact me. __________________________________________________ Hope you visit my website!!! www.ritaren.com

Hello! Tried to get into the ships list website but could not. Can you help? Thanks Lois Scozzari

Alice Thanks for your responces to my quests.I'll give some of these sources a try. The following facts will guide me as to the ones I try: 1. Upon arriving in the US, they went to the area of Stone Mountain, MI. 2. In 1890 they lived near Hillsboro, Montgomery County, IL. Carl worked in a nearby coal mine. 3. In 1893 they settled in Springfield, Sangamon County, IL where my grandmother deserted the family, where my grandfather became a Citizen and was killed in a coal mine accident. My father married and lived there until his death 1n 1950. Thanks again for your help. Karl ----- Original Message ----- From: "alice" <syrex@coslink.net> To: <LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 3:25 AM Subject: Re: [LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L] Struck ancestors > Karl, > > You need to start with some census research to see if your family stayed in > New York. If they did a later census report will give you a list of other > sibs which would have been born into the family. > > The following is a ship mailing list you may want to subscribe to, it's > free. > > TheShipsList-L-request@rootsweb.com > > You may find info about the ship, which port it sailed from etc. It may > give you a lead back to the old country where your family came from. > > Good luck, > Alice > > > At 02:28 PM 10/20/00 -0400, you wrote: > >Hi All, > > > >I sure need some help. I'm hopeing some one out there can supply the > guidence I need. > > > >August 9, 1889 Carl (age 33) and Dorothea (age 26) Struck and their son, > my father, Karl William Struck (age 6) arrived in New York from Bremen, > Germany on the ship S.S.Eider. According to my fathers Social Security > documents he was born in Berlin Germany, although he always said my > ancestors were Prussion. The only religion that was followed in the United > States and I assume Germany, was Lutheran. > > > >Some of the data that I'm trying to discover is: > > > >What was my grandfather Carl Struck's parents names, dates and places of > birth? > > > >Did Carl Struck have any siblings? If so, what was their names and > birthdates? > > > >What was my grandmother Dorothea Huhn's parents names, dates and places of > birth? > > > >Did Dorothea Huhn have any siblings? If so, what was their names and > birthdates? > > > >When and where did my grandparents Carl Struck and Dorothea Huhn get married? > > > > > >Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. Karl > > > > > > >

John Thanks for your responce, but since my grandparents arrived in the US in 1889, it looks like these sources won't be of much help. Karl ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. John Birkholz" <brotherjohn@imt.net> To: <LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 2:56 AM Subject: [LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L] Re: Struck ancestors > Good morning folks, > > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 12:59 PM > > > Karl, > > As you probably already know the Bremen files were destroyed during > > W.W. II. > <brotherjohn snip> > > Roger Rhoads > > > Just a wee bit of clarification about Bremen embarcation passenger lists. > > "The Bremen passenger lists of 1832-1872 were destroyed in 1875 by > governmental decree owing to want of storage space. Thereafter only the > current and two previous years were kept, until the destruction ceased in > 1907. The lists of 1906-1931 were placed in the Statistisches Landesamt > Bremen, which was bombed on 6 October 1944, resulting in the destruction > of the remaining Bremen lists. An incomplete name index of the lists for > 1904- > 1914 is held at the Bundesarchiv Koblenz, with microfilms available via your > local LDS FHC. The Bremen Handelskammer archives has an apparently > complete duplicate of the lists for 1922-1939." can be found at URL > http://www.genealogienetz.de/gene/faqs/sgg.html#contents > > for now, > > A. John Birkholz brotherjohn@imt.net > 963 McIver Rd > Great Falls, MT 59404 > > >

Roger Many thanks for your responce to my quest. I have the ship information and passenger list from "Germans to America" books. Would the US Natl. Archives tell me any more? As I stated I think my father was born in Berlin, do you think NARA would be of any help? Karl ----- Original Message ----- From: "RHOADS, Roger" <Roger_RHOADS@Montellna.com> To: <LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 2:59 PM Subject: RE: [LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L] Struck ancestors > Karl, > As you probably already know the Bremen files were destroyed during > W.W. II. However, if you know the date when the ship arrived in NYC, the US > Natl. Archives might be able to help. Background info is many times > available for the passenger list. Go to www.nara.gov. > > Roger Rhoads > > >

Tom, Have you checked with the Bedford County Historical Society? My experience when I served out there, unfortunately, was that record keeping was less than desirable. More often than not, the records were kept in a home and eventually lost. Also, the Bedford congregation, Pastor Ray Short, might be of some assistance. John Dornheim

Does anyone connect to the Harrington family in the Maryland, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia area?

Karl, You need to start with some census research to see if your family stayed in New York. If they did a later census report will give you a list of other sibs which would have been born into the family. The following is a ship mailing list you may want to subscribe to, it's free. TheShipsList-L-request@rootsweb.com You may find info about the ship, which port it sailed from etc. It may give you a lead back to the old country where your family came from. Good luck, Alice At 02:28 PM 10/20/00 -0400, you wrote: >Hi All, > >I sure need some help. I'm hopeing some one out there can supply the guidence I need. > >August 9, 1889 Carl (age 33) and Dorothea (age 26) Struck and their son, my father, Karl William Struck (age 6) arrived in New York from Bremen, Germany on the ship S.S.Eider. According to my fathers Social Security documents he was born in Berlin Germany, although he always said my ancestors were Prussion. The only religion that was followed in the United States and I assume Germany, was Lutheran. > >Some of the data that I'm trying to discover is: > >What was my grandfather Carl Struck's parents names, dates and places of birth? > >Did Carl Struck have any siblings? If so, what was their names and birthdates? > >What was my grandmother Dorothea Huhn's parents names, dates and places of birth? > >Did Dorothea Huhn have any siblings? If so, what was their names and birthdates? > >When and where did my grandparents Carl Struck and Dorothea Huhn get married? > > >Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. Karl > >

Hi Karl, Have you tried the LDS Church History Center? You can check to see where the nearest church branch is located in the phone book. They will have a genealogy library where you can order microfilm for a small fee, and view it at the library. They have microfilmed records from all around the world. You can visit their site at: www.familysearch.org. and use the Ancestral File, the IGI, links to web sites, research guidance and much more is available at the site and the best part of it, is the price. It's Free! The IGI is interesting to use, I think you will agree. You fill in info you have on your ancestors and if they are listed in the IGI, It returns the info to you very quickly. Enjoy, Alice At 02:28 PM 10/20/00 -0400, you wrote: >Hi All, > >I sure need some help. I'm hopeing some one out there can supply the guidence I need. > >August 9, 1889 Carl (age 33) and Dorothea (age 26) Struck and their son, my father, Karl William Struck (age 6) arrived in New York from Bremen, Germany on the ship S.S.Eider. According to my fathers Social Security documents he was born in Berlin Germany, although he always said my ancestors were Prussion. The only religion that was followed in the United States and I assume Germany, was Lutheran. > >Some of the data that I'm trying to discover is: > >What was my grandfather Carl Struck's parents names, dates and places of birth? > >Did Carl Struck have any siblings? If so, what was their names and birthdates? > >What was my grandmother Dorothea Huhn's parents names, dates and places of birth? > >Did Dorothea Huhn have any siblings? If so, what was their names and birthdates? > >When and where did my grandparents Carl Struck and Dorothea Huhn get married? > > >Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. Karl > >

Good morning folks, Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 12:59 PM > Karl, > As you probably already know the Bremen files were destroyed during > W.W. II. <brotherjohn snip> > Roger Rhoads > Just a wee bit of clarification about Bremen embarcation passenger lists. "The Bremen passenger lists of 1832-1872 were destroyed in 1875 by governmental decree owing to want of storage space. Thereafter only the current and two previous years were kept, until the destruction ceased in 1907. The lists of 1906-1931 were placed in the Statistisches Landesamt Bremen, which was bombed on 6 October 1944, resulting in the destruction of the remaining Bremen lists. An incomplete name index of the lists for 1904- 1914 is held at the Bundesarchiv Koblenz, with microfilms available via your local LDS FHC. The Bremen Handelskammer archives has an apparently complete duplicate of the lists for 1922-1939." can be found at URL http://www.genealogienetz.de/gene/faqs/sgg.html#contents for now, A. John Birkholz brotherjohn@imt.net 963 McIver Rd Great Falls, MT 59404

My grandfather has a bible given to him in1911 while attending a Lutheran Church in Berreyessa California. Does anyone know if the church still exist and is there a cemetary ??? thanks for any help.

Thank you for your suggestions, Doris, but I have already gone that route. I then contacted the Gettysburg seminary concerning churches in the Osterburg area, but the records begin much too late. I then inquired whether there might be journals of itinerant ministers who served that area, and that is how I learned of Rev. Lange's labors. Apparently the group in that area was so small at the time that they did not have regular ministers and relied on men such as he for baptisms, weddings, etc. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dooris63@aol.com> To: <LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 10:04 PM Subject: Re: [LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L] Rev. Frederick William Lange > Hi Tom, > > I would suggest that you contact the Archives Dept. of the Evangelical > Lutheran Church in America and ask them if they have records of the Churches > that Pastor Lange served. Their e-mail address is: archives@elca.com > They have microfilms of many early Lutheran Church records for loan and for > sale. It costs $15 to borrow one of these microfilms for one month, or you > can buy one for $45. However, if a Church in question still exists, you must > obtain permission from the present Pastor of the Church in order to actually > purchase the microfilm. You can look at these microfilms at your local > library if you do not have your own microfilm reader. The website for the > ELCA Archives is: www.elca.org/archives/intro.html When you get > to that page, you will see two items at the bottom of the page relating to > Genealogy that you can click on. Good luck in your search! > > Doris >

Karl, As you probably already know the Bremen files were destroyed during W.W. II. However, if you know the date when the ship arrived in NYC, the US Natl. Archives might be able to help. Background info is many times available for the passenger list. Go to www.nara.gov. Roger Rhoads

Hi All, I sure need some help. I'm hopeing some one out there can supply the guidence I need. August 9, 1889 Carl (age 33) and Dorothea (age 26) Struck and their son, my father, Karl William Struck (age 6) arrived in New York from Bremen, Germany on the ship S.S.Eider. According to my fathers Social Security documents he was born in Berlin Germany, although he always said my ancestors were Prussion. The only religion that was followed in the United States and I assume Germany, was Lutheran. Some of the data that I'm trying to discover is: What was my grandfather Carl Struck's parents names, dates and places of birth? Did Carl Struck have any siblings? If so, what was their names and birthdates? What was my grandmother Dorothea Huhn's parents names, dates and places of birth? Did Dorothea Huhn have any siblings? If so, what was their names and birthdates? When and where did my grandparents Carl Struck and Dorothea Huhn get married? Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. Karl

Hi Tom, I would suggest that you contact the Archives Dept. of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America and ask them if they have records of the Churches that Pastor Lange served. Their e-mail address is: archives@elca.com They have microfilms of many early Lutheran Church records for loan and for sale. It costs $15 to borrow one of these microfilms for one month, or you can buy one for $45. However, if a Church in question still exists, you must obtain permission from the present Pastor of the Church in order to actually purchase the microfilm. You can look at these microfilms at your local library if you do not have your own microfilm reader. The website for the ELCA Archives is: www.elca.org/archives/intro.html When you get to that page, you will see two items at the bottom of the page relating to Genealogy that you can click on. Good luck in your search! Doris

Hello, Normally I would reply privately to a request such as this, but I would like to reply to the list so that people are aware that I can't just change your address. First you need to unsubscribe from the old address and then you need to subscribe with the new address. I can do this for you, but this is also something you can do for yourself. For subscription information, please see the mailing list homepage: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~mdtaffet/lutheran-roots_list.htm -- Mary Taffet List Administrator for LUTHERAN-ROOTS mdtaffet@syr.edu the Holleys wrote: > > please change my address to 1090holley@msn.com

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Does anyone know how I might obtain the journal/records of Rev. Frederick William Lange (d. 1812) who served congregations in Bedford and Somerset Cos., PA from 1791 until his death in 1812? In particular, I am searching for a record of the marriage of George and Margaret ---? Ridenour which took place in Bedford Co., PA, probably near what is now Osterburg, in 1804-1806. Their first child, John Ridenour, was born 1/26/1807. The Lutheran Seminary at Gettysburg does not have Rev. Lange's records, but I am in hopes they may still be found in another repository. Sincerely, Tom Ridenour restorer@rica.net