Today it's part of Germany. Look on good map for the state of Neidersaxony (or some spelling like that). Roger Rhoads -----Original Message----- I have many times heard of the term "lower Saxony", but no one has been able to actually verify the area in question. What land mass did it encompass? Regards, Robert Lipprandt rloss@bellsouth.net

Good morning, I have many times heard of the term "lower Saxony", but no one has been able to actually verify the area in question. What land mass did it encompass? Regards, Robert Lipprandt rloss@bellsouth.net ----- Original Message ----- From: David Seefeldt <seefeldt@in-motion.net> To: <LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 1:29 AM Subject: Re: [LUTH-ROOTS] Introduction - Johann and Johannes naming > Johann means John. Johannes also means John. Look at the following URL for > German naming conventions which will explain the difference between Johann > and Johannes in German naming. > > http://www.kerchner.com/germname.htm > > David Seefeldt > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "alice" <syrex@coslink.net> > To: <LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 1:15 AM > Subject: Re: [LUTH-ROOTS] Introduction > > > > Hi Scott, > > > > Welcome to the list. You mentioned you speak German. I was wondering if > > you could please tell me the meaning of the following two names: > > 1. Johannes > > 2. Johann > > > > I was told that Johann means Mr. is this true? My ggg-grandfather was > from > > Germany and his name on the ships list was Johannes Auer. > > > > Also, do you know how I would be able to get records that were kept by a > > Luthern Church that existed during the 1700's in Va? > > > > Any help is appreciated. You can e-mail me at: syrex@coslink.net > > > > Thank You, > > Alice > > > > > > At 05:28 PM 11/30/00 -0500, you wrote: > > >I'm new on this list, so thought I'd introduce myself. I am researching > the > > >following Surnames with Lutheran roots: > > > > > >HOLL-Oberpreuschwitz/Eckersdorf (near Bayreuth), Bavaria, Germany > > Economy, > > >Penn. > St. Louis > Lincoln Co., Kansas > > > > > >WOLTING-Rüsfort (near Osnabrück), Lower Saxony, Germany > Lincoln Co., > > >Kansas > > > > > >TIEMANN-Dahlinghausen (near Osnabrück), Lower Saxony, Germany > Lincoln > Co., > > >Kansas > > > > > >MUELLER/MÜLLER-Germany > St. Louis > Lincoln Co., Kansas > > > > > >I have extensive genealogical information about my Tiemann line, which > has > > >been traced back to about 1570 to Arndt Meyer zum Vorwalde (born > Holtkamp). > > >The name changed to Tiemann due to practices involving the transference > of > > >property. I have complete information about Tiemann lines that is > correct > > >to 1981 (some branches later) and the Meyer zum Vorwalde line to about > 1925. > > > > > >My own church background is Missouri Synod, but I have a theological degr > ee > > >from the Lutheran School of Theology in Chicago (I am a lay person). I > am > > >fairly well versed in Lutheran history, theology and church structure, if > > >that is a help to anyone. I also know German. > > > > > >Scott Holl > > >Chicago > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hi David, Thanks a ton for all the great info, I appreciate your efforts. It is a lot more then I expected, you really went the extra mile. Thanks Again, Alice At 01:29 AM 12/1/00 -0500, you wrote: >Johann means John. Johannes also means John. Look at the following URL for >German naming conventions which will explain the difference between Johann >and Johannes in German naming. > >http://www.kerchner.com/germname.htm > >David Seefeldt > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "alice" <syrex@coslink.net> >To: <LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 1:15 AM >Subject: Re: [LUTH-ROOTS] Introduction > > >> Hi Scott, >> >> Welcome to the list. You mentioned you speak German. I was wondering if >> you could please tell me the meaning of the following two names: >> 1. Johannes >> 2. Johann >> >> I was told that Johann means Mr. is this true? My ggg-grandfather was >from >> Germany and his name on the ships list was Johannes Auer. >> >> Also, do you know how I would be able to get records that were kept by a >> Luthern Church that existed during the 1700's in Va? >> >> Any help is appreciated. You can e-mail me at: syrex@coslink.net >> >> Thank You, >> Alice >> >> >> At 05:28 PM 11/30/00 -0500, you wrote: >> >I'm new on this list, so thought I'd introduce myself. I am researching >the >> >following Surnames with Lutheran roots: >> > >> >HOLL-Oberpreuschwitz/Eckersdorf (near Bayreuth), Bavaria, Germany > >Economy, >> >Penn. > St. Louis > Lincoln Co., Kansas >> > >> >WOLTING-Rüsfort (near Osnabrück), Lower Saxony, Germany > Lincoln Co., >> >Kansas >> > >> >TIEMANN-Dahlinghausen (near Osnabrück), Lower Saxony, Germany > Lincoln >Co., >> >Kansas >> > >> >MUELLER/MÜLLER-Germany > St. Louis > Lincoln Co., Kansas >> > >> >I have extensive genealogical information about my Tiemann line, which >has >> >been traced back to about 1570 to Arndt Meyer zum Vorwalde (born >Holtkamp). >> >The name changed to Tiemann due to practices involving the transference >of >> >property. I have complete information about Tiemann lines that is >correct >> >to 1981 (some branches later) and the Meyer zum Vorwalde line to about >1925. >> > >> >My own church background is Missouri Synod, but I have a theological degr >ee >> >from the Lutheran School of Theology in Chicago (I am a lay person). I >am >> >fairly well versed in Lutheran history, theology and church structure, if >> >that is a help to anyone. I also know German. >> > >> >Scott Holl >> >Chicago >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >

Johann means John. Johannes also means John. Look at the following URL for German naming conventions which will explain the difference between Johann and Johannes in German naming. http://www.kerchner.com/germname.htm David Seefeldt ----- Original Message ----- From: "alice" <syrex@coslink.net> To: <LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 1:15 AM Subject: Re: [LUTH-ROOTS] Introduction > Hi Scott, > > Welcome to the list. You mentioned you speak German. I was wondering if > you could please tell me the meaning of the following two names: > 1. Johannes > 2. Johann > > I was told that Johann means Mr. is this true? My ggg-grandfather was from > Germany and his name on the ships list was Johannes Auer. > > Also, do you know how I would be able to get records that were kept by a > Luthern Church that existed during the 1700's in Va? > > Any help is appreciated. You can e-mail me at: syrex@coslink.net > > Thank You, > Alice > > > At 05:28 PM 11/30/00 -0500, you wrote: > >I'm new on this list, so thought I'd introduce myself. I am researching the > >following Surnames with Lutheran roots: > > > >HOLL-Oberpreuschwitz/Eckersdorf (near Bayreuth), Bavaria, Germany > Economy, > >Penn. > St. Louis > Lincoln Co., Kansas > > > >WOLTING-Rüsfort (near Osnabrück), Lower Saxony, Germany > Lincoln Co., > >Kansas > > > >TIEMANN-Dahlinghausen (near Osnabrück), Lower Saxony, Germany > Lincoln Co., > >Kansas > > > >MUELLER/MÜLLER-Germany > St. Louis > Lincoln Co., Kansas > > > >I have extensive genealogical information about my Tiemann line, which has > >been traced back to about 1570 to Arndt Meyer zum Vorwalde (born Holtkamp). > >The name changed to Tiemann due to practices involving the transference of > >property. I have complete information about Tiemann lines that is correct > >to 1981 (some branches later) and the Meyer zum Vorwalde line to about 1925. > > > >My own church background is Missouri Synod, but I have a theological degr ee > >from the Lutheran School of Theology in Chicago (I am a lay person). I am > >fairly well versed in Lutheran history, theology and church structure, if > >that is a help to anyone. I also know German. > > > >Scott Holl > >Chicago > > > > > > > > > > >

Hi Scott, Welcome to the list. You mentioned you speak German. I was wondering if you could please tell me the meaning of the following two names: 1. Johannes 2. Johann I was told that Johann means Mr. is this true? My ggg-grandfather was from Germany and his name on the ships list was Johannes Auer. Also, do you know how I would be able to get records that were kept by a Luthern Church that existed during the 1700's in Va? Any help is appreciated. You can e-mail me at: syrex@coslink.net Thank You, Alice At 05:28 PM 11/30/00 -0500, you wrote: >I'm new on this list, so thought I'd introduce myself. I am researching the >following Surnames with Lutheran roots: > >HOLL—Oberpreuschwitz/Eckersdorf (near Bayreuth), Bavaria, Germany > Economy, >Penn. > St. Louis > Lincoln Co., Kansas > >WOLTING—Rüsfort (near Osnabrück), Lower Saxony, Germany > Lincoln Co., >Kansas > >TIEMANN—Dahlinghausen (near Osnabrück), Lower Saxony, Germany > Lincoln Co., >Kansas > >MUELLER/MÜLLER—Germany > St. Louis > Lincoln Co., Kansas > >I have extensive genealogical information about my Tiemann line, which has >been traced back to about 1570 to Arndt Meyer zum Vorwalde (born Holtkamp). >The name changed to Tiemann due to practices involving the transference of >property. I have complete information about Tiemann lines that is correct >to 1981 (some branches later) and the Meyer zum Vorwalde line to about 1925. > >My own church background is Missouri Synod, but I have a theological degree >from the Lutheran School of Theology in Chicago (I am a lay person). I am >fairly well versed in Lutheran history, theology and church structure, if >that is a help to anyone. I also know German. > >Scott Holl >Chicago > > > > >

Hello Scott! Welcome to the list! Lynn

I'm new on this list, so thought I'd introduce myself. I am researching the following Surnames with Lutheran roots: HOLL�Oberpreuschwitz/Eckersdorf (near Bayreuth), Bavaria, Germany > Economy, Penn. > St. Louis > Lincoln Co., Kansas WOLTING�R�sfort (near Osnabr�ck), Lower Saxony, Germany > Lincoln Co., Kansas TIEMANN�Dahlinghausen (near Osnabr�ck), Lower Saxony, Germany > Lincoln Co., Kansas MUELLER/M�LLER�Germany > St. Louis > Lincoln Co., Kansas I have extensive genealogical information about my Tiemann line, which has been traced back to about 1570 to Arndt Meyer zum Vorwalde (born Holtkamp). The name changed to Tiemann due to practices involving the transference of property. I have complete information about Tiemann lines that is correct to 1981 (some branches later) and the Meyer zum Vorwalde line to about 1925. My own church background is Missouri Synod, but I have a theological degree from the Lutheran School of Theology in Chicago (I am a lay person). I am fairly well versed in Lutheran history, theology and church structure, if that is a help to anyone. I also know German. Scott Holl Chicago

Hello Listers! I don't get much mail from this list, so thought I might try to generate some! I have just uploaded my family tree to the Internet. I am especially interested in finding the parents of Edward HAAS/HASS and his wife Sarah S(C)HERER. They had some children baptized in the German Reformed Lutheran Church at Easton, Northampton co., Pennsylvania and some children buried in the German Reformed burial ground. Does anyone know whether Edward and Sarah were buried in that cemetery in 1882 or later? Please check out my new website at http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db-roney I would appreciate any corrections or additions you can make and will be happy to share whatever I can with you. Thank you. Nancy in Utah ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

In my email this morning, I received a message titled "Test Mail." The "sender" was "Mailing Server" and To: was "Mailing List." Attached was a file called wishyou.zip. This is just a reminder to all to NEVER open such a file. I didn't, and I have no intention of doing so. When you receive an attachment you are NOT expecting, delete the message and empty your trash file. Immediately! My good deed for the day. -- Loretta Iroquois County ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~iliroquo/ Ford County ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilford/ Iroquois County Genealogical Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilicgs/

Dear Mary, I am new to this Internet "thing" but your idea sounds just excellent to me! I don't know much about my "brick wall" couple, or about their Evangelical Lutheran Church beyond the fact that they all existed! It would be marvelous to find additional references to any of the above! I would be happy to contribute my tiny amount of information should you decide to go ahead and will look forward eagerly to hear your final decision. I think that in this way your site will be of far greater benefit to me personally! The comments from Loretta about the success of her site is encouraging, and I encourage you to go for it!!! Thank you for your dedication and willingness to expand the scope of this site. Kindest Regards, Nancy Roney Mitchell Searching HAAS in Easton, PA 1800-1883 On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 22:12:19 -0500 "Mary D. Taffet" <mdtaffet@mailbox.syr.edu> writes: > Hello subscribers, > > I maintain 10 other mailing lists for Rootsweb, including several > surname lists and several county lists. On those mailing list > pages, I > have included a researcher profile section to allow subscribers to > post > their research interests -- both to allow others to contact them and > to > allow their interests to be available to a search engine. > > I would like to propose that a section like that (though perhaps a > separate page would be better...) be added to the mailing list page > for > LUTHERAN-ROOTS. > > First, let me give you some links to other pages I have created > that > include sections like the one I have in mind: > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~mdtaffet/vabuckin_list.htm#R_A > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~mdtaffet/moses_list.html#R_A > > The Moses page, in addition to including researcher profiles, also > includes immigrant profiles, with a link between the immigrants and > the > persons researching them: > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~mdtaffet/moses_list.html#Immigrants > > Here's what I propose to do: > > -- Add a new page for researcher profiles, to include > surnames, > geographic locations, and specific churches of interest. > > -- Add a new page (or use the same page as the researcher > profiles) for > immigrants (and also perhaps the non-immigrant ancestors like I have > on > the Moses page -- where a non-immigrant ancestor would be the > earliest > ancestor you can find, but you don't know where they came from) > > -- For people that post their interest in particular > churches, I will > make sure that an entry exists in the directory for that church, > and > then the researcher profile and church can be linked together. > Also > perhaps the surnames can be linked there as well. > > > For this proposal to work, several things will need to happen: > > 1) You must communicate your desire to be included, and provide > whatever > information you wish to have included. At the minimum, a researcher > profile would be needed, and optionally one or more immigrant > ancestors > and one or more churches of interest. This can be done on or off > list. > > 2) VERY IMPORTANT: You must allow for the fact that I will only be > able > to add a couple of these on any given day; patience will be > necessary. > > 3) Where this will really start to pay off is when you look over > the > updates and find an entry for one of your own ancestors or a church > you > are interested in as well -- then you can give me your researcher > profile if you haven't already, and I can start to add additional > links > under each entry. > > A researcher profile should contain the following information: > > -- Name > -- E-mail address > -- Web address if any > -- Something to show a link to the Lutheran/Reformed church (and > whatever other churches belong here that aren't covered by that > label), > whether that link be an ancestor (immigrant or non-immigrant) or a > church, or perhaps just surnames known to be associated with > Lutherans. > > > An ancestor profile should contain the following information: > > -- Name (and name variants if applicable) > -- Approximate birth and death dates > -- Approximate location > -- If immigrant, point of emigration (i.e. where did the boat leave > from?), point of immigration (i.e. where did the immigrant settle, > or > where did the boat land?), year of immigration and name of ship if > known > -- Name of spouse if known > -- Names of children if known > -- Connection to Lutheran/Reformed, which would include church > membership, burial in a church cemetery, etc. > > > A church profile should contain the following information: > > -- Current name (and any former names) of church if still in > existence; > otherwise any former names by which the church was known > -- Approximate year founded, if known > -- Location (Country, State or Province, County, Township, etc.) > -- Names/locations of any cemeteries associated with the church > -- If no longer in existence, approximate year of closure if known > -- Current synod membership if known, or if no longer in existence, > location where records can be found if known > -- Website address if any; by this I mean a website dedicated to > the > genealogy/history of the church, not a current webpage for current > members > -- Photos would also be acceptable, but those would need to be sent > directly to me, as attachments are not allowed on Rootsweb > > > Please let me know what you think about this proposal. > > Also, let me warn you that I will soon (finally...) be adjusting > the > prepend for this list. The current prepend is [LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L]. > As > this is one of the longer prepends, and as we voted some time ago > to > shorten this prepend to LUTH-ROOTS, I think it is about time that > this > change be made. > > Of course, what will happen is that, for a while at least, messages > might come in as [LUTH-ROOTS] Re: [LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L], but that > behavior > if seen at all will be transient in nature. > > -- I look forward to your comments, > Mary Taffet > List Admin for LUTHERAN-ROOTS > mdtaffet@syr.edu > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

"Mary D. Taffet" wrote: > > Hello subscribers, > > I maintain 10 other mailing lists for Rootsweb, including several > surname lists and several county lists. On those mailing list pages, I > have included a researcher profile section to allow subscribers to post > their research interests -- both to allow others to contact them and to > allow their interests to be available to a search engine. These look very similar to the query pages for Ford and Iroquois County, Illinois, and though this method requires greater maintenance than a query bin form, it is more controllable, editable and changeable than using a bin form. We have found it useful for easy contact, and in our opinions (mine and Deb's) preferable to the query bin used alone. > --snip-- > > Here's what I propose to do: > > -- Add a new page for researcher profiles, to include surnames, > geographic locations, and specific churches of interest. > > -- Add a new page (or use the same page as the researcher profiles) for > immigrants (and also perhaps the non-immigrant ancestors like I have on > the Moses page -- where a non-immigrant ancestor would be the earliest > ancestor you can find, but you don't know where they came from) > > -- For people that post their interest in particular churches, I will > make sure that an entry exists in the directory for that church, and > then the researcher profile and church can be linked together. Also > perhaps the surnames can be linked there as well. All excellent ideas and a commitment to a lot of work. > > For this proposal to work, several things will need to happen: > > 1) You must communicate your desire to be included, and provide whatever > information you wish to have included. At the minimum, a researcher > profile would be needed, and optionally one or more immigrant ancestors > and one or more churches of interest. This can be done on or off list. I assume you would put an email link on the page to be used to send the information to you? Then copy and paste? Or have you another method in mind? > > 2) VERY IMPORTANT: You must allow for the fact that I will only be able > to add a couple of these on any given day; patience will be necessary. Boy, can I relate to that! She's right folks. Some pages using this query method get updated only about twice a month, because it is very labor-intensive. > > 3) Where this will really start to pay off is when you look over the > updates and find an entry for one of your own ancestors or a church you > are interested in as well -- then you can give me your researcher > profile if you haven't already, and I can start to add additional links > under each entry. I might also suggest that those who have special documents or directories for specific congregations and/or schools (colleges, junior colleges, church high schools and grade schools, etc.) list them as available for lookups IF the person will actually commit to doing the lookups. For instance, I have a 75th Anniversary Book for my home congregation, published when I was 3 years old. It contains a list of all the voting members (all men, of course) since the inception of the congregation up to 1945. I would list it as a lookup tool for Lutherans in Iroquois County, Illinois. I also have an alumni directory for Concordia Lutheran High School, Fort Wayne. That would be listed, as well. Comments? > > A researcher profile should contain the following information: > > -- Name > -- E-mail address > -- Web address if any > -- Something to show a link to the Lutheran/Reformed church (and > whatever other churches belong here that aren't covered by that label), > whether that link be an ancestor (immigrant or non-immigrant) or a > church, or perhaps just surnames known to be associated with Lutherans. > > An ancestor profile should contain the following information: > > -- Name (and name variants if applicable) > -- Approximate birth and death dates > -- Approximate location > -- If immigrant, point of emigration (i.e. where did the boat leave > from?), point of immigration (i.e. where did the immigrant settle, or > where did the boat land?), year of immigration and name of ship if known > -- Name of spouse if known > -- Names of children if known > -- Connection to Lutheran/Reformed, which would include church > membership, burial in a church cemetery, etc. > > A church profile should contain the following information: > > -- Current name (and any former names) of church if still in existence; > otherwise any former names by which the church was known > -- Approximate year founded, if known > -- Location (Country, State or Province, County, Township, etc.) > -- Names/locations of any cemeteries associated with the church > -- If no longer in existence, approximate year of closure if known > -- Current synod membership if known, or if no longer in existence, > location where records can be found if known > -- Website address if any; by this I mean a website dedicated to the > genealogy/history of the church, not a current webpage for current > members > -- Photos would also be acceptable, but those would need to be sent > directly to me, as attachments are not allowed on Rootsweb This assumes, of course, that one KNOWs this information. My personal purpose would be to DISCOVER these things regarding the congregations in Addison, Illinois and Dunklee's Grove/Bensenville. > > Please let me know what you think about this proposal. Excellent ideas all. > > Also, let me warn you that I will soon (finally...) be adjusting the > prepend for this list. The current prepend is [LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L]. As > this is one of the longer prepends, and as we voted some time ago to > shorten this prepend to LUTH-ROOTS, I think it is about time that this > change be made. Fine by me. -- Loretta Iroquois County ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~iliroquo/ Ford County ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilford/ Iroquois County Genealogical Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilicgs/

Hello subscribers, I maintain 10 other mailing lists for Rootsweb, including several surname lists and several county lists. On those mailing list pages, I have included a researcher profile section to allow subscribers to post their research interests -- both to allow others to contact them and to allow their interests to be available to a search engine. I would like to propose that a section like that (though perhaps a separate page would be better...) be added to the mailing list page for LUTHERAN-ROOTS. First, let me give you some links to other pages I have created that include sections like the one I have in mind: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~mdtaffet/vabuckin_list.htm#R_A http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~mdtaffet/moses_list.html#R_A The Moses page, in addition to including researcher profiles, also includes immigrant profiles, with a link between the immigrants and the persons researching them: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~mdtaffet/moses_list.html#Immigrants Here's what I propose to do: -- Add a new page for researcher profiles, to include surnames, geographic locations, and specific churches of interest. -- Add a new page (or use the same page as the researcher profiles) for immigrants (and also perhaps the non-immigrant ancestors like I have on the Moses page -- where a non-immigrant ancestor would be the earliest ancestor you can find, but you don't know where they came from) -- For people that post their interest in particular churches, I will make sure that an entry exists in the directory for that church, and then the researcher profile and church can be linked together. Also perhaps the surnames can be linked there as well. For this proposal to work, several things will need to happen: 1) You must communicate your desire to be included, and provide whatever information you wish to have included. At the minimum, a researcher profile would be needed, and optionally one or more immigrant ancestors and one or more churches of interest. This can be done on or off list. 2) VERY IMPORTANT: You must allow for the fact that I will only be able to add a couple of these on any given day; patience will be necessary. 3) Where this will really start to pay off is when you look over the updates and find an entry for one of your own ancestors or a church you are interested in as well -- then you can give me your researcher profile if you haven't already, and I can start to add additional links under each entry. A researcher profile should contain the following information: -- Name -- E-mail address -- Web address if any -- Something to show a link to the Lutheran/Reformed church (and whatever other churches belong here that aren't covered by that label), whether that link be an ancestor (immigrant or non-immigrant) or a church, or perhaps just surnames known to be associated with Lutherans. An ancestor profile should contain the following information: -- Name (and name variants if applicable) -- Approximate birth and death dates -- Approximate location -- If immigrant, point of emigration (i.e. where did the boat leave from?), point of immigration (i.e. where did the immigrant settle, or where did the boat land?), year of immigration and name of ship if known -- Name of spouse if known -- Names of children if known -- Connection to Lutheran/Reformed, which would include church membership, burial in a church cemetery, etc. A church profile should contain the following information: -- Current name (and any former names) of church if still in existence; otherwise any former names by which the church was known -- Approximate year founded, if known -- Location (Country, State or Province, County, Township, etc.) -- Names/locations of any cemeteries associated with the church -- If no longer in existence, approximate year of closure if known -- Current synod membership if known, or if no longer in existence, location where records can be found if known -- Website address if any; by this I mean a website dedicated to the genealogy/history of the church, not a current webpage for current members -- Photos would also be acceptable, but those would need to be sent directly to me, as attachments are not allowed on Rootsweb Please let me know what you think about this proposal. Also, let me warn you that I will soon (finally...) be adjusting the prepend for this list. The current prepend is [LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L]. As this is one of the longer prepends, and as we voted some time ago to shorten this prepend to LUTH-ROOTS, I think it is about time that this change be made. Of course, what will happen is that, for a while at least, messages might come in as [LUTH-ROOTS] Re: [LUTHERAN-ROOTS-L], but that behavior if seen at all will be transient in nature. -- I look forward to your comments, Mary Taffet List Admin for LUTHERAN-ROOTS mdtaffet@syr.edu

Hello subscribers, I am sending this message to all of the mailing lists that I administer, so I apologize in advance to those of you who will get this more than once. I will be out of town from Saturday 11/11 until Thursday 11/16. I will be attending the ASIS&T Conference in Chicago where I may or may not have access to e-mail; that remains to be seen. If you are having any problems with your mail or your subscriptions, I will have some time Saturday morning before I leave, but otherwise I cannot guarantee that I will be able to help you until the evening of Thursday 11/16. -- Your list administator, Mary Taffet mdtaffet@syr.edu

Posted on: Lutheran Roots Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Special/LutheranRoots/80 Surname: BORREVIK, STAVNEY ------------------------- To Whom It May Concern, I am searching for information about a Luthern pastor from Norway who was in Silverton, Oregon in the early 1900's. I know he was there in 1912 when his daughter Ruth BORREVIK was born. Bernt may have also been known as B.A. BORREVIK and may have come to the U.S. as early as 1890. Bernt's wife's name was Maria STAVNEY. They had 6 children: Berge, Alex, Olaf, Selma b. about 1910, Esther and Ruth. Maria died in 1917 and Bernt remarried to an Anna ____? in 1918. I show them in Reedsport, Douglas county in 1929 when Ruth graduates from high school. I live in Korea and do not have access to U.S. libraries. Any help greatly appreciated. Thank you, Sally Furuiye (furuiyes@yahoo.com)

FYI -- There is a database from ancestry.com that is available for free searching until 11/20. Details below. -- Mary Taffet List Administrator for LUTHERAN-ROOTS mdtaffet@syr.edu ---------- Forwarded message ---------- [snip] ============================================================ DATABASES OF THE DAY (Free for 10 Days!) ============================================================ [snip] ____________________________________________________________________ YORK COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA, 1733-1800: CHRIST EVANGELICAL LUTHERAN CHURCH The ministers of Christ Evangelical Lutheran Church, located in the city of York, began keeping records in 1733. The late F. J. C. Hertzog translated the original entries from German to English in 1919. The records in this database span the years 1733-1800 and include the names of 17,565 individuals who lived in York County. For researchers of German immigrant ancestors who settled in Pennsylvania and their descendants, this database can provide valuable vital statistics not available in other records. Source Information: Lineages, Inc., comp. "York County, Pennsylvania, 1733-1800: Christ Evangelical Lutheran Church." [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2000. Original data: Hertzog, F. J. C. "Records, Christ Evangelical Lutheran Church, City of York, York County, Pennsylvania, 1733-1800." Manuscript by the translator, 1919. To search this database, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4936.htm ____________________________________________________________________ [snip]

Pamela, I am in possession of a letter written in 1840 by persons living in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia which mentions a family by that name. It isn't Daniel, but rather Reuben who is mentioned in this letter. The letter has been transcribed and placed online at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~mdtaffet/gibbons_letter_1840_03_22.htm Even though it doesn't mention the same individuals, I would like to point this letter out to you because of the difficulty I had in reading that surname. You will note that where this name appears, I had the following as possibilities for what had been written: "it is sead that Lou Price is to be mared to Mr [hingry ?? or lingry ?? or Pingry ?? or Phingry ??] he livd with Steven Conrad" Given the difficulty I had in making out what name was written, you may want to consider alternative spellings for records that have been transcribed. I should add in this letter that I finally figured out they were referring to Reuben Kingree (or Kingry which is what was actually written). By the way, the Conrad family also came from Pennsylvania to the Shenandoah Valley area, as did the Miller's and many others. Maybe they attended some of the same churches back in Pennsylvania. -- Mary Taffet List Administrator for LUTHERAN-ROOTS mdtaffet@syr.edu On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Pamela Moats wrote: > Dear Lutheran Researchers: > > I hope there are some of you out there that can help me out. > > My ancestor, Daniel Gingrich/Kingry married Rosina _______ c. 1759 in > Lancaster County, PA. > > I have researched every avenue I can find from the Internet, the LCHS, > libraries, LDS, etc. > > I know that some of Daniel's siblings and cousins were married in the > Lutheran church, yet so far, I have been able to find nothing at all on him. > He and Rosina, and their 5-yr old son, Solomon moved to Shen. Co., VA in > 1766. > > One last thing (I'm on my knees pleading)... When Daniel and Rosina > Gingrich settled in VA, their name was anglicized to KINGREE, which all of > their descendants use to this day. In essence, with Rosina being the > Matriarch of our family, I would hate to leave her without a maiden name! > (Right now, I have her name as ROSINA MY WIFE KINGREE. I don't know if my > descendants will go for that if they read it in our geneology generations > from now.) > > Can anyone help out here?? > > Thanks so much. > > Pamela Kingree Moats > > >

Posted on: Lutheran Roots Queries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/Special/LutheranRoots/79 Surname: Auer ------------------------- Evelyn, I hope you find the following information helpful as it is all that I have in my records. Marriages by Rev. John Geo. Wittner - 1767-1769 John Melchior Auer, a Reformed schoolmaster, m. Christine Roehrer, on 24 Feb 1767. Cocalico Reformed Church, Lancaster Co. PA Anna Catharine of Melchior Auer, schoolm. + Christine b? bp 9 Oct 1768. Spon. Henry Benner + wife Anna Catharine. Coalico Reformed Church, Lancaster Co. PA. Barb. bp 19 Mar 1758 of Melchior + Barb. First Ref. Church, Lancaster, PA Magdalen, bp 4 Jul 1765 of Melchior + Barb. First Ref. Church, Lancaster, PA Susan, bp 25 May 1761 of Melchior + Barb., First Ref. Church, Lancaster, PA Thats all I have on Auer. I could find nothing on variant spellings. Good luck! Marian Snyder

Hello all - I have created two new category pages for Cyndi's List. With the help of my husband, Mark, we have begun building new sets of links focusing specifically on libraries and archives for these new categories. The two new categories are: Cyndi's List - Lutheran http://www.CyndisList.com/lutheran.htm Cyndi's List - Baptist http://www.CyndisList.com/baptist.htm There are also several other previously created categories on the site for religions: Cyndi's List - Catholic http://www.CyndisList.com/catholic.htm Cyndi's List - Huguenots http://www.CyndisList.com/huguenot.htm Cyndi's List - Jewish http://www.CyndisList.com/jewish.htm Cyndi's List - LDS & Family History Centers http://www.CyndisList.com/lds.htm Cyndi's List - Mennonite http://www.CyndisList.com/menno.htm Cyndi's List - Methodist http://www.CyndisList.com/methodis.htm Cyndi's List - Quaker http://www.CyndisList.com/quaker.htm Cyndi's List - Religion & Churches http://www.CyndisList.com/religion.htm Successful surfing, Cyndi P.S. If you know of any links that we haven't yet found, please be sure to submit them to the site: http://www.CyndisList.com/newlink.htm

In a message dated 11/1/2000 8:53:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, Dooris63@aol.com writes: << I find the listing at the "Riksarkivet SVAR" very useful when looking for parish names, etc. It is www.svar.ra.se This is a website from Sweden that has a catalog you can use to purchase or borrow microfilms >> Sorry, Mary, I wrote this in haste........SVAR will sell or loan microfiche, not microfilms, as I first wrote, above. Doris

In a message dated 11/1/2000 8:08:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, mdtaffet@mailbox.syr.edu writes: << If you do know of such a page, I would like to have the URL so that I can add a link to it. >> Hi again, Mary, I did some searching and came up with this website: www.svenskakyrkan.se/stift/stift.htm As you may know, the Church of Sweden became separated from the government of Sweden earlier this year. It appears that the new name is Svenska Kyrkan or Swedish Church. I first searched for Lutheran Church of Sweden, and was surprised to find that there are free standing churches that call themselves Lutheran, but the Svenska Kyrkan wasn't on any of the lists of Lutherans that I saw! If anyone is looking for the current names and addresses of the Swedish Churches (which are essentially the old congregations that existed in each parish) that exist today, they can be found at the above website. I find the listing at the "Riksarkivet SVAR" very useful when looking for parish names, etc. It is www.svar.ra.se This is a website from Sweden that has a catalog you can use to purchase or borrow microfilms from the archives of Swedish churches, or you can just surf the list to obtain information. The catalog section is easily followed, even if you do not understand Swedish. Go to www.svar.ra.se Then click on the words VÅRA PRODUKTER in the blue section on the left, MIKROKORT on the next page, and, finally, on the purple word, KYRKOARKIV. This will bring you to an alphabetical listing of all the parishes in Sweden that would be of interest to genealogists. One has to remember when searching, that the Swedish alphabet has 29 letters. After the letter "z" come å, ä, and ö in that order. I hope this helps............ Doris