Thanks again Barb for all that pension, military and Kellogg history. Seems I had seen it all before, probably from You !The Ludington mentioned in the Kellogg history is a Lemuel Ludington, b 1759 and would fit my wanted Lemuel to a TEE. But there is no mention of where he was born only that his widowed mother ( a Kellogg by marriage ) m 2 a Ludington and they had this son Lemuel. Sure wish I knew where that son was born. CT? MA? NY? Ron Ludington On Monday, November 06, 2017 10:36:05 PM, Barbara Campbell <bluenoser100@hotmail.com> wrote: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-G5ZD-9LGG?i=1741&cc=1916219