The Francis mentioned was a son of Asa Lud, who was a bro to Abigail Ludd who m Col Henry Lud, her first cousin. Asa moved to Greenbrier co VA (now WV) and had much land holdings there. Mildred Palmer comes from that WV lot.. Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: <bluenoser100@adelphia.net> To: <ronlud@execulink.com> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 12:43 AM Subject: Re: Luddington vs. Stuart--O. S. 332; N. S. 120--Bill, 1812, by Francis Luddington of Greenbrier, that on 4th August, 1787. Patrick Lockhart obtained 2 patents, one "A" for 400 acres and one "B" for 449 acres. "A" was as assignee of Jno. Tillery, in whose name survey was made 1780; "B" was in his own right on a survey in 1784. Orator surveyed in 1793 tracts adjoining and conflicting with above. After 1793 Lockhart contracted with George Reider (Rader) to sell him "B." Orator sold to Eli Perkins to whom patent issued, and he sold to John Carroll, who sold to Adam Nicely. After the sale to Reider, Lockhart sold "A" to John Stuart, 5th June, 1795, who ejected Nicely. Lockhart is dead. John Stuart answers he came to Greenbrier in 1769. The country was then uninhabited. He had then in his employ Abraham Jinkings, who (after the custom of "them" times) took up the 449 acre tract and sold to Patrick Lockhart, who made a survey in 1774. Wallace Bristan came to Greenbrier in 1772, took up the 400 acre tract and made survey in 1774 and sold to John Tillery. These and all other surveys made in Greenbrier in 1774 were made under the grant for the Greenbrier Company, but the Revolutionary War interfering, no plats issued on those surveys, nor did any organized government exist in Virginia from that time until after the Declaration of Independence in 1776. The Convention of Virginia directed a new mode for taking up unappropriated lands, and it became necessary for all persons to re-survey under the New Government, and in 1780 John Tillery made a re-survey and afterwards sold to Lockhart. Lockhart made a re-survey for the 449 acre tract. Grants issued to Lockhart for the two tracts 4th August, 1787. In 1795 Lockhart lived in Fincastle. Lockhart in 1784 bought 40 acres of survey made for Robert Armstrong in 1784. In 1791 he made an entry between Tillery and Fipher. Philip Wolfenberger deposes, he lived near the land from 1789. In 1793 he saw James Hudgins cutting still house logs. Zur Combs deposes, 1817, he lived near the land 1790-1800; he came to the country in 1790, and left in 1800. John Phifer deposes, he was a citizen of Greenbrier and lived near the land for several years prior to 1793. Thos. Edgar was surveyor of Greenbrier in 1780. The survey was made 1774 by Richard May. Josiah Shanklin was also a surveyor. Robert 241 Mathews deposes, he aided Adam Nicely to improve his land. In 1793 George Reader moved from Shenandoah to Greenbrier and Robert Armstrong moved to Kentucky. John Craig deposes, he was raised in Greenbrier. He was born September, 1782. Thos. Masterson deposes, John James lives on the Tillery place. Conrad Daring deposes, he was distiller for Francis Luddington in 1794. George Rader deposes, his father moved to Greenbrier in 1793. Abraham Malone deposes, he has lived near the land since 1783. John Craig was born September, 1784. Deponent cleared a path for the Methodist preachers who traveled through there in 1791. Adam Rader deposes, has known the land since 1794, mentions his father as being in Greenbrier. Samuel Price deposes, 1818, is oldest justice in Greenbrier, has been a justice over 20 years. Alexander Rader deposes, in Bourbon County, Ky., 20th August, 1813. Son of George Rader (signed in German Räder). Original Message: ----------------- From: ron ludington ronlud@execulink.com Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 09:43:54 -0400 To: bluenoser100@adelphia.net Subject: Re: I chased it down a little bit further and it is Kentucky. The only Luds i have that lived there in that time frame (1930's) do not have daughter or sister called Janie (Jane?) nor do any show up in the 1930 census but I will look further. Keep digging! ron ----- Original Message ----- From: <bluenoser100@adelphia.net> To: <ronlud@execulink.com> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 1:27 AM Subject: Re: By the email adress It looks like Kentucky. Barb Original Message: ----------------- From: ron ludington ronlud@execulink.com Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 10:09:22 -0400 To: bluenoser100@adelphia.net Subject: Re: Is this Harlan Co Kentucky? I am not sure who the father is/was? Looks like his name was Adams? and that he married a Janie Ludington. ron -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .