In a message dated 10/26/2006 3:27:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ronlud@yahoo.com writes: I'm sorry to have read between the lines there. I thot you reffered to the Marvin W Lud from Valpo IN and did not look for another Marvin W Lud in other studies. No problem...it was a recent find and I was busily scanning things that day. I thought it was an interesting article. Elaine