http://home.columbus.rr.com/ancienttextiles/voyages1.htm This account above is also long but in better English. I'm sorry I actually sen the other very very long article I only meant to send the link. I can't get into Ancestry.com but supposedly Thomas immigrated to Roanoke Virginia. If he was a Oxford College student before this and a preacher in Lincoln England after the voyage and connected with Brasenose.I wonder if he didn't actually stay in America but went back and told stories and William heard them and wanted to see for himself :) fanciful thinking on my part. Maybe he was a grandson of Thomas, hee hee. Barb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Sir Richard Grenvill, and Master Ralph Lane] The II. The Generall victualed for 8. dayes, with a selected company went to the maine, and discovered the Townes of Pomeiok, Aquascogoc, Secotan, and the great Lake called Paquipe. At Aquascogoc the Indians stole a siluer Cup, wherefore burnt the Towne and spoyled their corne, so returned to our fleete at Tocokon. Whence we wayed for Hatorask, where we rested and Granganimeo, King Wingina's brother with Manteo came abord our Admirall, the Admirall went for Weapomeiok, and Master Iohn Arundell for England. Our Generall in his way home tooke a rich loaden ship of 300. tunns, with which he ariued at Plimouth the 18. of September. 1585. These were left vnder the command of Master Ralph Layne to inhabite the Country but they returned within a yeare. Philip Amidas Admirall. Master Thomas Heryot. Master Acton. Master Stafford. Master Thomas Luddington. Master Maruyn. Captaine Vaghan. Master Kendall. Master Gardiner. Master Predeox. Master Rogers. Master Haruy. Master Snelling. Master Antony Russe. Master Allen. Master Michaell Pollison. Master Thomas Bockner. Master Iames mason. Master Dauid Salter. Master Iames Skinner. With diuers others to the number of 108. Touching the most remarkeable things of the Country and our proceeding from the 17 of August 1585. till the 18. of Iune 1586. we made Roanoack our habitation. The vtmost of our discoucry Southward was Secotan as we esteemed 80. leagues from Roanoacke. The passage from thence was thought a broad sound within the maine, being without kenning of land, yet full of flats and shoulds that our Pinnasse could not passe, and we had but one boat with 4. ores, that would carry but 15 men with their prouisions for 7. dayes: so that because the winter ap-proached we left those discoueries till a stronger supply. _________________________________________________________________ Mortgage refinance is hot 1) Rates near 30-yr lows 2) Good credit get intro-rate 4.625%* https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h2a5f&s=4056&p=5117&disc=y&vers=743