Great information. This is info that my cousin sent to the LDS from the LDS Library up here as an update. Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Campbell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 1:02 AM Subject: [LUDDINGTON] does this help? > > Father: Harvey Samuel LUDINGTON b: 11 DEC 1835 in Danville, Vermilion > County, Illinois > Mother: Catherine WILLIAMS > > Marriage 1 Gertrude Lena (Gilbert) GULBRANDSEN b: 22 AUG 1876 in > Christiania, Norway (Oslo) > > Married: 1896 in Chicago, Cook County, Illinois > Note: Harvey went to Chicago to attend the funeral of his brother > Joseph.Joseph at the time was engaged to Gertrude Gulbrandsen > Gilbert.Gertrude wound up marrying Harvey and the family moved to > Seattle,Washington. > Children > > Vesta Lena LUDINGTON b: 6 APR 1899 in Seattle, King County, Washington > Arthur John LUDINGTON b: 25 DEC 1900 in Seattle, King County, Washington > Verna Hazel LUDINGTON b: 5 OCT 1902 in Seattle, King County, Washington > Vera Ida LUDINGTON b: 1 OCT 1906 in Seattle, King County, Washington > Alfred Harvey LUDINGTON b: 9 JUN 1911 in Seattle, King County, Washington > Verona Magdallena LUDINGTON b: 1 FEB 1913 in Seattle, King County, > Washington > Harvey Samuel LUDINGTON b: 10 JAN 1916 in Seattle, King County, Washington > Violet LUDINGTON b: 9 JUN 1918 in Seattle, King County, Washington > > Marriage 2 Ella (CARROLL) CORRELL b: 1863 in Danville, Vermilion County, > Illinois > > Married: 19 MAY 1882 in Danville, Vermilion County, Illinois > Children > > Frank LUDINGTON b: 7 FEB 1885 in Danville, Vermilion County, Illinois > > Sources: > > Abbrev: Imported GEDCOM file > Title: GEDCOM file imported on 15 Aug 2000. > Abbrev: Danville, Vermilion County, Illinois Vital Records > Title: Birth Certificate > Text: Vital Records department, Danville, Illinois > Repository: > Name: Vermilion County Hall of Records > Quality: 3 > Abbrev: LDS Family History Center > Title: CD from family history files at LDS Family History Center, Nels > NelsonRoad, Bremerton Washington. > Author: Unknown. Batch 7434056 Sheet 15 Source 935294 Micro Film > Publication: Baptised: 3 Jun 1975, Endowed 21 Jun 1975, Sealed to Parents: > 8 Aug1975 at Idaho Falls, Idaho Temple. > Text: Name: Ludington, Harvey Samuel > Sex: M > Event: Birth > 18 Mar 1860 > Danville, Illinois > Father: Harvey S. Ludington > Mother: Catherine Wiliams > Note: > Batch 7434056 Sheet 15 > Repository: > Name: LDS Family History Center > Bremerton, Washingon > Note: > Microfilm must be ordered from Main LDS FHC in Salt Lake City Utah. > Page: Batch 7434056 Sheet 15 Source Call: 935294 > Quality: 3 > Abbrev: LDS Family History Center > Title: CD from family history files at LDS Family History Center, Nels > NelsonRoad, Bremerton Washington. > Author: Unknown. Batch 7434056 Sheet 15 Source 935294 Micro Film > Publication: Baptised: 3 Jun 1975, Endowed 21 Jun 1975, Sealed to Parents: > 8 Aug1975 at Idaho Falls, Idaho Temple. > Text: Name: Ludington, Harvey Samuel > Sex: M > Event: Birth > 18 Mar 1860 > Danville, Illinois > Father: Harvey S. Ludington > Mother: Catherine Wiliams > Note: > Batch 7434056 Sheet 15 > Repository: > Name: LDS Family History Center > Bremerton, Washingon > Note: > Microfilm must be ordered from Main LDS FHC in Salt Lake City Utah. > > >> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 14:25:48 -0700 >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [LUDDINGTON] Joseph Luddington - >> >> I show your grandpa Harvey Samuel Lud (1860-1935) as being m twice. BUT I >> do not >> show him with a brother called Joseph. Is Joseph another figment of >> someones >> imagination? >> He does not show in any census or in Chicago death notices that I have >> seen. >> Harvey shows in the 1910 and 1920 census as being 27 or 28 years older >> than >> Gertrude but then in the 1930 census he says he was 23 when he m which >> would be >> before Gertrude was even born. >> >> Something fishy in Seattle? >> >> Ron Ludington >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Fred Jones <[email protected]> >> To: Luddington List <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wed, November 3, 2010 3:18:43 PM >> Subject: [LUDDINGTON] Joseph Luddington - >> >> I am still trying to find information on my grandfathers brother Joseph >> who went >> to Chicago from Danville. He was engaged to Gertrude Gilbert when he >> passed >> away. My grandfather went to Chicago for the funeral, met Gertrude and >> got >> married. There seems to be absolutely no info on this Joseph out there. >> >> Fred >> This list is adoptable. 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So does it prove your brothers theory? Also who married Gertrude first right? > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 15:20:50 -0700 > Subject: Re: [LUDDINGTON] does this help? > > Great information. This is info that my cousin sent to the LDS from the LDS > Library up here as an update. > > Fred > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara Campbell" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 1:02 AM > Subject: [LUDDINGTON] does this help? > > > > > > Father: Harvey Samuel LUDINGTON b: 11 DEC 1835 in Danville, Vermilion > > County, Illinois > > Mother: Catherine WILLIAMS > > > > Marriage 1 Gertrude Lena (Gilbert) GULBRANDSEN b: 22 AUG 1876 in > > Christiania, Norway (Oslo) > > > > Married: 1896 in Chicago, Cook County, Illinois > > Note: Harvey went to Chicago to attend the funeral of his brother > > Joseph.Joseph at the time was engaged to Gertrude Gulbrandsen > > Gilbert.Gertrude wound up marrying Harvey and the family moved to > > Seattle,Washington. > > Children > > > > Vesta Lena LUDINGTON b: 6 APR 1899 in Seattle, King County, Washington > > Arthur John LUDINGTON b: 25 DEC 1900 in Seattle, King County, Washington > > Verna Hazel LUDINGTON b: 5 OCT 1902 in Seattle, King County, Washington > > Vera Ida LUDINGTON b: 1 OCT 1906 in Seattle, King County, Washington > > Alfred Harvey LUDINGTON b: 9 JUN 1911 in Seattle, King County, Washington > > Verona Magdallena LUDINGTON b: 1 FEB 1913 in Seattle, King County, > > Washington > > Harvey Samuel LUDINGTON b: 10 JAN 1916 in Seattle, King County, Washington > > Violet LUDINGTON b: 9 JUN 1918 in Seattle, King County, Washington > > > > Marriage 2 Ella (CARROLL) CORRELL b: 1863 in Danville, Vermilion County, > > Illinois > > > > Married: 19 MAY 1882 in Danville, Vermilion County, Illinois > > Children > > > > Frank LUDINGTON b: 7 FEB 1885 in Danville, Vermilion County, Illinois > > > > Sources: > > > > Abbrev: Imported GEDCOM file > > Title: GEDCOM file imported on 15 Aug 2000. > > Abbrev: Danville, Vermilion County, Illinois Vital Records > > Title: Birth Certificate > > Text: Vital Records department, Danville, Illinois > > Repository: > > Name: Vermilion County Hall of Records > > Quality: 3 > > Abbrev: LDS Family History Center > > Title: CD from family history files at LDS Family History Center, Nels > > NelsonRoad, Bremerton Washington. > > Author: Unknown. Batch 7434056 Sheet 15 Source 935294 Micro Film > > Publication: Baptised: 3 Jun 1975, Endowed 21 Jun 1975, Sealed to Parents: > > 8 Aug1975 at Idaho Falls, Idaho Temple. > > Text: Name: Ludington, Harvey Samuel > > Sex: M > > Event: Birth > > 18 Mar 1860 > > Danville, Illinois > > Father: Harvey S. Ludington > > Mother: Catherine Wiliams > > Note: > > Batch 7434056 Sheet 15 > > Repository: > > Name: LDS Family History Center > > Bremerton, Washingon > > Note: > > Microfilm must be ordered from Main LDS FHC in Salt Lake City Utah. > > Page: Batch 7434056 Sheet 15 Source Call: 935294 > > Quality: 3 > > Abbrev: LDS Family History Center > > Title: CD from family history files at LDS Family History Center, Nels > > NelsonRoad, Bremerton Washington. > > Author: Unknown. Batch 7434056 Sheet 15 Source 935294 Micro Film > > Publication: Baptised: 3 Jun 1975, Endowed 21 Jun 1975, Sealed to Parents: > > 8 Aug1975 at Idaho Falls, Idaho Temple. > > Text: Name: Ludington, Harvey Samuel > > Sex: M > > Event: Birth > > 18 Mar 1860 > > Danville, Illinois > > Father: Harvey S. Ludington > > Mother: Catherine Wiliams > > Note: > > Batch 7434056 Sheet 15 > > Repository: > > Name: LDS Family History Center > > Bremerton, Washingon > > Note: > > Microfilm must be ordered from Main LDS FHC in Salt Lake City Utah. > > > > > >> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 14:25:48 -0700 > >> From: [email protected] > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [LUDDINGTON] Joseph Luddington - > >> > >> I show your grandpa Harvey Samuel Lud (1860-1935) as being m twice. BUT I > >> do not > >> show him with a brother called Joseph. Is Joseph another figment of > >> someones > >> imagination? > >> He does not show in any census or in Chicago death notices that I have > >> seen. > >> Harvey shows in the 1910 and 1920 census as being 27 or 28 years older > >> than > >> Gertrude but then in the 1930 census he says he was 23 when he m which > >> would be > >> before Gertrude was even born. > >> > >> Something fishy in Seattle? > >> > >> Ron Ludington > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: Fred Jones <[email protected]> > >> To: Luddington List <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Wed, November 3, 2010 3:18:43 PM > >> Subject: [LUDDINGTON] Joseph Luddington - > >> > >> I am still trying to find information on my grandfathers brother Joseph > >> who went > >> to Chicago from Danville. He was engaged to Gertrude Gilbert when he > >> passed > >> away. My grandfather went to Chicago for the funeral, met Gertrude and > >> got > >> married. There seems to be absolutely no info on this Joseph out there. > >> > >> Fred > >> This list is adoptable. If you would like to volunteer to adminster this > >> list, > >> click here: http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listrequest.pl > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > >> This list is adoptable. If you would like to volunteer to adminster this > >> list, click here: http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listrequest.pl > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > This list is adoptable. 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Fred, I'm beginning to think Harvey may have been the 1st person in the witness protection program.... This is quite a mystery. I'm sure you've seen this site before: http://www.sos.state.il.us/departments/archives/databases.html There are quite a few databases, and you can get additional information and copies of original records. Even if you've been there before it might be worth a look as more records may have been uploaded. Don't know if this could be your Joseph or not - it is 7 years prior to Harvey and Gertrude's marriage, which is listed below as March 1, 1989 Cook County Coroner's Inquest Record Index, 1872-1911 NAME OF DECEASED VOL. PAGE DATE FILED DATE OF DEATH LUDINGTON, J. FREDERICK 25 34 10/30/1891 10/29/1891 1860 Census:IL Ludington Harvey 66 NY Surveyor H S-male 24 IL Carpenter Catherine 27 IN Reynolds 1 IL Hiram 2/12 IL 1870 Census:IL Luddington Harvey 35 pattern maker IL Catherine 37 IN Jas. 17 moulder IL Reynolds 13 IL Hiram 11 IL Frank 9 IL Harvey 77 NY 1880 Census:IL Catharine LUDDINGTON Self W Female W 38 IN Keeping House ENGLAND VA (she is alone) Hiram LUDINGTON Other S Male W 19 IL Butcher NOR NOR (Joliet State Pen.) No Reynolds, although I do see a marriage for him in 1879 no Frank And no Harvey or Joseph in 1860 or 1870 Have you found them in those census records? LUDDINGTON, JOSEPH LEWIS, CATALINA 1858-12-09 C/ 462 MC LEAN LUDDINGTON, REYNOLDS HARDEN, STELLA 1879-06-06 D /44 1946 VERMILION LUDDINGTON, ROBERT ILAM, ELISE 1870-03-01 001/ FINK COOK LUDDINGTON, THOMAS HACKNEY, SUSAN ROBERTS 1894-05-16 00D/0203 DE WITT LUDINGON, WILLIS WALTER DONELY, MARTHA 1860-09-13 B/ 49 3779 KNOX LUDINGTON, ALBERT ANDERSON, ELLA 1894-12-31 00C/0094 HENDERSON LUDINGTON, CHARLES E CROSBY, LOUISE 1895-11-27 / 241777 COOK LUDINGTON, CLIFFORD P FROST, GRACE 1895-07-06 00G/0061 00011333 KNOX LUDINGTON, EDGAR A CHRISTOPHER, NELLIE M 1886-07-12 00E/0010 00013610 ROCK ISLAND LUDINGTON, GEORGE A WHITTEN, KATHERINE 1900-12-25 / 319923 COOK LUDINGTON, HARVEY CARROLL, ELLA 1882-05-19 D /77 3435 VERMILION LUDINGTON, HARVEY S GILBERT, GERTRUDE 1898-03-01 / 274052 COOK LUDINGTON, HIRAM LAING, MARGARET(DATE MAYBE 5/14/1846 1847-03-14 1/ 73 KNOX LUDINGTON, HIRAM D BROWNING, HAZEL C 1890-07-29 D/ 185 WARREN LUDINGTON, JAMES A BARKER, ALICE 1866-11-27 3 /30 VERMILION LUDINGTON, JAMES A SNIDER, LOUISA 1866-04-24 3 /25 VERMILION LUDINGTON, JAMES S ADAMS, EVA A 1881-07-04 00B/0045 00000445 PIATT LUDINGTON, JOHN M NICHOLS, HESTER E 1880-03-01 4/ 138 6656 HANCOCK LUDINGTON, JOHN M STEWART, MATILDA I 1866-01-30 C/ 14 WARREN LUDINGTON, JOHN Q A SAPP, CLARISSA 1851-05-22 A /173 VERMILION LUDINGTON, JOSEPH OWENS, HESTER 1864-01-04 / 00002104 MC DONOUGH LUDINGTON, NICKOLAS FURY, SARAH 1872-09-09 079/ 00005056 COOK LUDINGTON, OLIVE GRAFTON KNIGHT, EMLY JANE (EMMA) 1883-09-02 01B/0102 EDGAR LUDINGTON, SAMUEL KENNEDY, MARY R 1859-12-29 001/ FINK COOK LUDINGTON, THOMAS DAVIDSON, SARAH MRS 1876-09-03 C/ 58 DE WITT LUDINTON, STEPHEN F MILLER, LIZA J 1842-08-04 A /90 VERMILION
This helps immensely. Are these marriage records? Census records? They look like marriage and that Joseph in McDonough County sure is close to the year that I have for Grandpas brother. Great info to play with. Thank you very much Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rachel Bryan" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected] com" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [LUDDINGTON] does this help? > Fred, I'm beginning to think Harvey may have been the 1st person in the > witness protection program.... > This is quite a mystery. > > I'm sure you've seen this site before: > http://www.sos.state.il.us/departments/archives/databases.html > There are quite a few databases, and you can get additional information > and > copies of original records. > Even if you've been there before it might be worth a look as more records > may have been uploaded. > > Don't know if this could be your Joseph or not - it is 7 years prior to > Harvey and Gertrude's marriage, which is listed below as March 1, 1989 > Cook County Coroner's Inquest Record Index, 1872-1911 > NAME OF DECEASED VOL. PAGE DATE FILED DATE OF > DEATH > LUDINGTON, J. FREDERICK 25 34 10/30/1891 10/29/1891 > > > > > 1860 Census:IL > Ludington Harvey 66 NY Surveyor > H S-male 24 IL Carpenter > Catherine 27 IN > Reynolds 1 IL > Hiram 2/12 IL > > 1870 Census:IL > Luddington Harvey 35 pattern maker IL > Catherine 37 IN > Jas. 17 moulder IL > Reynolds 13 IL > Hiram 11 IL > Frank 9 IL > Harvey 77 NY > > 1880 Census:IL > Catharine LUDDINGTON Self W Female W 38 IN > Keeping House ENGLAND VA > (she is alone) > Hiram LUDINGTON Other S Male W 19 IL > Butcher NOR NOR > (Joliet State Pen.) > No Reynolds, although I do see a marriage for him in 1879 > no Frank > And no Harvey or Joseph in 1860 or 1870 > > Have you found them in those census records? > > LUDDINGTON, JOSEPH LEWIS, CATALINA > 1858-12-09 C/ 462 MC LEAN > LUDDINGTON, REYNOLDS HARDEN, STELLA > 1879-06-06 D /44 1946 VERMILION > LUDDINGTON, ROBERT ILAM, ELISE > 1870-03-01 001/ FINK COOK > LUDDINGTON, THOMAS HACKNEY, SUSAN ROBERTS > 1894-05-16 00D/0203 DE WITT > LUDINGON, WILLIS WALTER DONELY, MARTHA > 1860-09-13 B/ 49 3779 KNOX > LUDINGTON, ALBERT ANDERSON, ELLA > 1894-12-31 00C/0094 HENDERSON > LUDINGTON, CHARLES E CROSBY, LOUISE > 1895-11-27 / 241777 COOK > LUDINGTON, CLIFFORD P FROST, GRACE > 1895-07-06 00G/0061 00011333 KNOX > LUDINGTON, EDGAR A CHRISTOPHER, NELLIE M > 1886-07-12 00E/0010 00013610 ROCK ISLAND > LUDINGTON, GEORGE A WHITTEN, KATHERINE > 1900-12-25 / 319923 COOK > LUDINGTON, HARVEY CARROLL, ELLA > 1882-05-19 D /77 3435 VERMILION > LUDINGTON, HARVEY S GILBERT, GERTRUDE > 1898-03-01 / 274052 COOK > LUDINGTON, HIRAM LAING, MARGARET(DATE MAYBE 5/14/1846 > 1847-03-14 1/ 73 KNOX > LUDINGTON, HIRAM D BROWNING, HAZEL C > 1890-07-29 D/ 185 WARREN > LUDINGTON, JAMES A BARKER, ALICE > 1866-11-27 3 /30 VERMILION > LUDINGTON, JAMES A SNIDER, LOUISA > 1866-04-24 3 /25 VERMILION > LUDINGTON, JAMES S ADAMS, EVA A > 1881-07-04 00B/0045 00000445 PIATT > LUDINGTON, JOHN M NICHOLS, HESTER E > 1880-03-01 4/ 138 6656 HANCOCK > LUDINGTON, JOHN M STEWART, MATILDA I > 1866-01-30 C/ 14 WARREN > LUDINGTON, JOHN Q A SAPP, CLARISSA > 1851-05-22 A /173 VERMILION > LUDINGTON, JOSEPH OWENS, HESTER > 1864-01-04 / 00002104 MC DONOUGH > LUDINGTON, NICKOLAS FURY, SARAH > 1872-09-09 079/ 00005056 COOK > LUDINGTON, OLIVE GRAFTON KNIGHT, EMLY JANE (EMMA) > 1883-09-02 01B/0102 EDGAR > LUDINGTON, SAMUEL KENNEDY, MARY R > 1859-12-29 001/ FINK COOK > LUDINGTON, THOMAS DAVIDSON, SARAH MRS > 1876-09-03 C/ 58 DE WITT > LUDINTON, STEPHEN F MILLER, LIZA J > 1842-08-04 A /90 VERMILION > > > This list is adoptable. If you would like to volunteer to adminster this > list, click here: http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listrequest.pl > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >