Hi all Just thought I'd do a quick review here of some documents I have here Death Certificate of Susan Ludington Age 93 years, 5 months and 4 days Birthplace: Pawling NY Fathers Name and Birthplace: John Salmon Mothers Name: Blank There is no place on the document asking who filled out the information. When Rich showed me the photo of Susan Luddington that he shared with the list her name was marked Susan Birdsell. This really confused us as we all have seen the mistake Ferris, but I think in family search.org I tried this and came up with a Susan Birdsell Daughter of John Salmon 1754 and Margared Polly Birdsell 1765 (Orange County) died 1838. I am not sure if we mentioned this or not as we did not think it would fill in any of the Luddington's puzzle but I do believe I did try Cornelia Birdsell to no avail that wea awhile ago maybe we could try again. I also have the Death Certificate of Howard T. Ludington The copy is very dark and hard to read and I have shared this information before but perhaps seeing it all together will jog somehting Looks like He died August in 1903 He was 81 years 3 months no days entered Place of death was Murray NY Male lived there 53 years Widowed Farmer Father is Thomas Ludington, Fathers birthplace says Connecticut than has a ? Mothers name is Cornelia Ludington birth place Conn Birthplace says New York and looks like Dutchess County Then I have a death certificate of Hannah Howes Female While Widow of Washington Howes dob 2/22/1825 Age: 95y 1 mon 7 days Birthplace Pawling NY Father: Joseph Ludington Fathers birthplace: New York Maiden name of mother: Susan Ferris, Birth Place Mother: Pawling NY Filled out but William (can't read) looks like Baking maybe And then I went to Holley NY once to speak with one of the descendants of Thomas and I got a genealogy that I did share on roots web at one point but can not put my fingers on at the moment, perhaps it is in the archive so I gathers some of the conflicting information here is that children were not supposed to inquire things about elders. I am not sure how everybody makes the mistake that Susan Salmon's name is Ferris as Ferris is the name of her sisters spouse but perhaps it is because they lived together once and her sisters was listed as the head of the household. hope this helps AS a PS that family search.org file said John salmon was the son of John and Jerusha and was quite extensive with how far it went back and that Margaret Polly Birdsell was the daughter of Benjamin Birdsell and Mary Tooker both born about 1740 I have not found anyting further but I do see mention of a Benjamin Birdsell in Quaker hill, Pawling that is a possible fit, just can not put them there especially becasue we have Margaret born in Orange.... Mary On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Ron Ludington <[email protected]> wrote: > Try Joseph instead of Thomas. > Ron Ludington > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Fred Jones <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thu, December 16, 2010 6:32:24 PM > Subject: Re: [LUDDINGTON] Find a Grave > > When you run Thomas Ludington or Susan Salmon on the internet or Rootsweb > there are none listed as a couple. Lots of Thomas's but no Susans. /????? > > Fred > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Ludington" <[email protected]> > To: "Richard Singleton" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 5:46 AM > Subject: Re: [LUDDINGTON] Find a Grave > > > Yes all of the Luds mentioned in those cemetery reports are from the Joseph > Ludington/Susan Salmon line. > Howard Jerome Lud was the father of another Howard Jerome and son and > grandson > of Luds by the same monicker. > > Thomas Howard Lud m Sally Ann Corbin and they moved up to Orleons co NY > from > Dutchess abt 1854. > > He appears in the 1855 NY State census, Orleans Co, Murry,as > Ludington, Howard, age 28, b Dutchess NY Farmer > Sally Ann (Corbin) age 25, b Penna. > Anna, age 7, b Dutchess > John age 6 b Dutchess > Edward, age 4 b Orleans > Sarah age 2 b Orleans > Ella C. age 1 b Orleans > > His gravestone says: > LUDINGTON, T. HOWARD, MAR 1822,AUG 22, 1903,MURRAY, NY'FATHER', > HUS OF SALLY C., SON OF THOMAS LUDINGTON & CORNELIA SO DIV 36 > > I have never been able to solve that riddle about who Cornelia is. Thos H > appears in many NY and US census reports and his wife is always listed as > Sally > or Sally ann. Thomas Joseph (or vice versa) was his father and Susan Salmon > the > mother. > > In some census reports he says he was b in CT and his kids often gave that > answer about their father's birthplace too. We do know that Pawling NY is > very > close to the CT border. > > > > Ron Ludington > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Richard Singleton <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thu, December 16, 2010 7:23:11 AM > Subject: [LUDDINGTON] Find a Grave > > > http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/democratandchronicle/obituary.aspx?n=howard-j-ludington&pid=144527927 > > > This obit was also posted on Find A Grave as part of a memorial created for > him, though there is no burial location. > > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GSln=Ludington&GSiman=1&GScnty=2014& > > > List of Orleans County ludington burials on Find a Grave > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/LUDDINGTON/2008-05/1210443092 > The Ralph Corbin Ludington buried in Hillside cemetery is probably a > descendant > of the (Thomas) Howard Ludington from Dutchess County who married Sally > Corbin. > Other Pawling Luds married Corbins. > > I would love to see a picture of the stone for Thomas > Howard Ludington of Murray buried near Holley, NY. The one that says he is > a > son > of Thomas Ludington and Cornelia. Does anyone know specifically what > cemetery he > is buried in, perhaps it is Hillside, since descendant listed above is > there. > Ron, did we ever pin down whether this individual is the same as the son of > Joseph Ludington and Susan Salmon Ludington in Pawling? I know there were > some > date discrepencies as well as the "Cornelia" spouse and whether Joseph ever > went > by Joseph Thomas or Thomas Joseph Ludington. Since I can't find him on the > list > of Ludingtons buried in Orleans County, I could post a photo request on > Find > a > Grave, hopefully someone in that area would take a picture. Rich singleton > This list is adoptable. 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I show that Thomas Howard Lud had a daughter Sarah Cornelia Ludington , 1853-1909, and she marrried Clark Major Smith and had family and lived nearby. 1900 census NY     SMITH, CLARK M.            43 (09/1856) HEAD          NY   FARMER      D95 -T22  MARR-24     SARAH C. (LUDINGTON)   44 (03/1854) WIFE 7/7           HOWARD M.              22 (08/1877) SON         NY   RR LBR., SINGLE     CLAUDE V.              15 (04/1885) SON           NY     GRACE M.               11 (03/1889) DAUGHTER      NY     ALONZO A.               8 (03/1892) SON           NY     SOPHIA F.               6 (12/1893) DAUGHTER      NY I wonder who the Cornelia second name came from? I too visited Holly NY on several occasions and talked with Ludington descends. They gave me much info but had nothing back past Joseph and Susan.  I also visited several gravesite but did not have a camera to take snaps.  Ron Ludington ________________________________ From: M Inoue <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, December 17, 2010 11:37:02 AM Subject: Re: [LUDDINGTON] Find a Grave   Hi all Just thought I'd do a quick review here of some documents I have here Death Certificate of Susan Ludington Age 93 years, 5 months and 4 days Birthplace: Pawling NY Fathers Name and Birthplace: John Salmon Mothers Name: Blank There is no place on the document asking who filled out the information. When Rich showed me the photo of Susan Luddington that he shared with the list her name was marked Susan Birdsell.  This really confused us as we all have seen the mistake Ferris, but I think in family search.org I tried this and came up with a Susan Birdsell Daughter of John Salmon 1754 and Margared Polly Birdsell 1765 (Orange County) died 1838.  I am not sure if we mentioned this or not as we did not think it would fill in any of the Luddington's puzzle but I do believe I did try Cornelia Birdsell to no avail that wea awhile ago maybe we could try again. I also have the Death Certificate of Howard T. Ludington The copy is very dark and hard to read and I have shared this information before but perhaps seeing it all together will jog somehting Looks like He died August in 1903 He was 81 years 3 months no days entered Place of death was Murray NY Male lived there 53 years Widowed Farmer Father is Thomas Ludington, Fathers birthplace says Connecticut than has a ? Mothers name is Cornelia Ludington birth place Conn Birthplace says New York and looks like Dutchess County Then I have a death certificate of Hannah Howes Female While Widow of Washington Howes dob 2/22/1825 Age: 95y 1 mon 7 days Birthplace Pawling NY Father: Joseph Ludington Fathers birthplace: New York Maiden name of mother:  Susan Ferris, Birth Place Mother:  Pawling NY Filled out but William (can't read) looks like Baking maybe And then I went to Holley NY once to speak with one of the descendants of Thomas and I got a genealogy that I did share on roots web at one point but can not put my fingers on at the moment, perhaps it is in the archive so I gathers some of the conflicting information here is that children were not supposed to inquire things about elders.  I am not sure how everybody makes the mistake that Susan Salmon's name is Ferris as Ferris is the name of her sisters spouse but perhaps it is because they lived together once and her sisters was listed as the head of the household.  hope this helps AS a PS that family search.org file said John salmon was the son of John and Jerusha and was quite extensive with how far it went back and that Margaret Polly Birdsell was the daughter of Benjamin Birdsell and Mary Tooker both born about 1740 I have not found anyting further but I do see mention of a Benjamin Birdsell in Quaker hill, Pawling that is a possible fit, just can not put them there especially becasue we have Margaret born in Orange.... Mary On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Ron Ludington <[email protected]> wrote: > Try Joseph instead of Thomas. >  Ron Ludington > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Fred Jones <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thu, December 16, 2010 6:32:24 PM > Subject: Re: [LUDDINGTON] Find a Grave > > When you run Thomas Ludington or Susan Salmon on the internet or Rootsweb > there are none listed as a couple.  Lots of Thomas's but no Susans. /????? > > Fred > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Ludington" <[email protected]> > To: "Richard Singleton" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 5:46 AM > Subject: Re: [LUDDINGTON] Find a Grave > > > Yes all of the Luds mentioned in those cemetery reports are from the Joseph > Ludington/Susan Salmon line. > Howard Jerome Lud was the father of another Howard Jerome and son and > grandson > of Luds by the same monicker. > > Thomas Howard Lud m Sally Ann Corbin and they moved up to Orleons co NY > from > Dutchess abt 1854. > > He appears in the 1855 NY State census, Orleans Co, Murry,as > Ludington, Howard, age 28, b Dutchess NY Farmer > Sally Ann (Corbin) age 25, b Penna. > Anna, age 7, b Dutchess > John age 6 b Dutchess > Edward, age 4 b Orleans > Sarah age 2 b Orleans > Ella C. age 1 b Orleans > > His gravestone says: > LUDINGTON, T. HOWARD, MAR 1822,AUG 22, 1903,MURRAY, NY'FATHER', > HUS OF SALLY C., SON OF THOMAS LUDINGTON & CORNELIA SO DIV 36 > > I have never been able to solve that riddle about who Cornelia is. Thos H > appears in many NY and US census reports and his wife is always listed as > Sally > or Sally ann. Thomas Joseph (or vice versa) was his father and Susan Salmon > the > mother. > > In some census reports he says he was b in CT and his kids often gave that > answer about their father's birthplace too. We do know that Pawling NY is > very > close to the CT border. > > > > Ron Ludington > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Richard Singleton <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thu, December 16, 2010 7:23:11 AM > Subject: [LUDDINGTON] Find a Grave > > >http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/democratandchronicle/obituary.aspx?n=howard-j-ludington&pid=144527927 >7 > > > This obit was also posted on Find A Grave as part of a memorial created for > him, though there is no burial location. > > >http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GSln=Ludington&GSiman=1&GScnty=2014& >& > > > List of Orleans County ludington burials on Find a Grave > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/LUDDINGTON/2008-05/1210443092 > The Ralph Corbin Ludington buried in Hillside cemetery is probably a > descendant > of the (Thomas) Howard Ludington from Dutchess County who married Sally > Corbin. > Other Pawling Luds married Corbins. > > I would love to see a picture of the stone for Thomas > Howard Ludington of Murray buried near Holley, NY. The one that says he is > a > son > of Thomas Ludington and Cornelia. Does anyone know specifically what > cemetery he > is buried in, perhaps it is Hillside, since descendant listed above is > there. > Ron, did we ever pin down whether this individual is the same as the son of > Joseph Ludington and Susan Salmon Ludington in Pawling? I know there were > some > date discrepencies as well as the "Cornelia" spouse and whether Joseph ever > went > by Joseph Thomas or Thomas Joseph Ludington. Since I can't find him on the > list > of Ludingtons buried in Orleans County, I could post a photo request on > Find > a > Grave, hopefully someone in that area would take a picture. Rich singleton > This list is adoptable. 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