In all of my records I have Joseph from NY 1) 1880 Census Pawling NY William Ludington -- Fathers birthplace New York has also wife Jane Son Joseph and Dau Almira with Mother Susan also born in NY ************* 2) I have Serena Washburn's death certificate filled out bu Susan Washburn Dau Lists Mother as Susan Salmon born Pawling NY Lists Father as Joseph Ludington born Pawling NY ************ 3) Certificate of Death, Daniel Ludington Fathers name and Birthplace- Joseph Ludington NY State Mothers name and Birthplace- Susan Salmon NY State Reported by Henry Ludington pauquag NY ********* 4) Death Record of Hannah Howes Father Joseph Ludington born NY Mother Susan Ferris born Pawling NY (this surprises me as that is a mistake from an old Biography in a book) information presented by Wm Baker Brewster NY (and who is that?) ******* 5) Death Certificate of Howard T. Ludington Widowed Farmer of Dutchess County NY Father Thomas Ludington, born in Connecticut Mother Cornelia Ludington born in Connecticut I'd love to find out who Joseph's parents are as much as the rest, but I Just don't see it According to the family Bible Rich Singleton has Howard Joseph's son was born in June of 1822 I have in Fannie Washburn's family book (my Great Gradmother) a paper with Howard birthday being June 28 1822 According to Howard T'S death certificate he died August 22 1903 and he was 81 years and 5 months old That is all I have however I shall continue my search for the answer, it just might still be out there -- One Nation Under God