In a message dated 5/5/2006 9:32:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OLSONDOT@aol.com writes: HAVING NEVER CONSIDERED IT, WHAT ARE THE ADVANTAGES AND WHERE IS YOUR CC PROBLEM? DOTTIE Hi, Dottie, I found this in my spam folder so am just now responding to it. I assume this is in response to my remark about enjoying my participation in DAR. The DAR is a patriotic heritage society with a variety of programs and activities directed at preserving American history. I think Karen would prefer any discussion of a particular organization to be off list but I will be glad to email chat with anyone interested. Just email me directly at _DEK623@aol.com_ (mailto:DEK623@aol.com) . I think my CC problem was outlined in previous emails. Bottom line, I need to know what proof exists of the relationship between Abner and Lafayette. Is Lafayette named as the brother (or even a family member) in the certificate sent by Rebecca via Lafayette authorizing Abner's marriage to Ann Ludington? Thanks, Elaine

Morning, Everybody, I don't think there is a big problem or mix-up with the Comforts. I do agree there is something amiss with Stephen Abner. I believe there are six Comforts in the Lud ancestry and four of the six follow one another in logical sequence. There are two infants named Comfort, who died young, in the early 1700's. You can find their data on the LDS site, _www.familysearch.com_ (http://www.familysearch.com) . Then there is Comfort, the son of Elisha and Abigail (Pierson) Ludington. He was born in 1741 and became a Capt. in the Rev War. I call him #1, Capt. Comfort. #1, Captain Comfort married Elizabeth Nickerson and among his children was a son named Comfort, born abt. 1770. I call him Comfort #2. Comfort #2 married (1) Mary Mulkin and among his children was a son named Comfort. I call him Comfort #3. Comfort #3 went to Clinton County, Ohio. Comfort #2 married (2) Rebecca Dayton and they were the parents of Abner. (There is no known documentation for either of the marriages of Comfort #2.) Comfort #3 married Ann Holdcraft in Clinton County, Ohio on November 26, 1834. Her maiden name is spelled a variety of ways in the records. Comfort #3 probably dies within the year and it is this same Ann (Holdcraft) Ludington who married Abner Ludington (Comfort's half-brother) December 15, 1835 in Clinton County, Ohio. I theorize that my Lafayette is the older brother of Comfort #3 and the half-brother of Abner. Lafayette marries Mary Ann (Purdy) and among their children is a boy named Comfort B. I call this fellow, Comfort #4. Comfort #4 was born in Ohio (possibly Clinton County). He migrated to Minnesota and there enlisted in the Civil War. He was killed shortly afterwards and died unmarried. Counting the two infants, that makes five fellows and one female (infant) in the Lud ancestry named Comfort and I think it accounts for all of them. However, some of my fellow researchers can easily name a couple of famous mistakes I have made. I welcome corrections. Elaine

Do we have any male descendants living today from this Abner Ludington? I don't see any in my study. Wiz Wiz ----- Original Message ----- From: <OLSONDOT@aol.com> To: <LUDDINGTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [LUDDINGTON] DAR Patriot Index > JJB, WE NEED INFO FROM INDIANA ON ANN AND THAT IS WHY I SENT YOU ALL THOSE > CASES, WHICH I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR COPYING FOR ME. IF TIME PERMITS, AND > IF > NOT, PLEASE ORDER, AS WE NEED SO TO FIGURE OUT THIS ANN HOLDCRAFT > (HOLLCRAFT) > AND SEVERAL SIMILAR SPELLINGS. > IT HOLDS SOME OF THE CLUES TO THESE VARIOUS COMFORTS. > > THE THING IS OUR THOMAS WAS IN CC, OHIO, AND RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO HIM LIVED > JAMES HOLDCRAFT, SR. . HE WAS THE FATHER OF ANN. SHE NEXT APPEARS > MARRYING A > COMFORT, BUT WHO IS HE?????????? AND THAT MARRIAGE ONLY LASTS A YEAR OR > SO > AND THEN SHE MARRIED A YOUNGER LUDDINGTON NAMED ABNER WHO WAS NOT OF > AGE?????????? OUR THOMAS HAD DAVID AND ASAHEL AND ON AND ON WHO MD > THERE BUT > COMFORT MARRIED THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR, ANN. ABNER WAS IN OHIO, SO WAS > FAYETTE AND THEN THE HOLDCRAFTS, DAVID LUD AND SOME OF THE FAMILY SHOW UP > IN CC. > INDIANA. THEY ALL KEEP PASSING THE NAMES AROUND AND IT IS SO > DIFFICULT. > BRICK WALLS FOR SURE, ELAINE. DOTTIE > > NOW FOR FAYETTE IN IROQUIS, WAS HE THERE WITH ANOTHER COMFORT???? AND > WHY > WAS HE THERE INSTEAD OF CC, INDIANA. > WHO HAS THESE ANSWERS? > > > ==== LUDDINGTON Mailing List ==== > Visit the new Luddington Message Board at > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.luddington > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Is this the same Ann Hol**craft? R Indiana Marriage Collection, 1800-1941 Name: John F Ludington Marriage Date: 16 Mar 1890 Marriage County: Clinton Estimated Birth Year: 1832 Age: 58 Gender: Male Father Name: Stephen Mother Name: Anna Holdcraft Source Title 1: Clinton County, Indiana Source Title 2: Index to Supplemental Record Marriage Transcript 1 Source Title 3: W. P. A. Original Record Located: County Clerk's O Book: 1 OS Page: 258 ************************ Name: Sarah A Helmic (Helmick) (Holmlick) Marriage Date: 16 Mar 1890 Marriage County: Clinton Estimated Birth Year: 1845 Age: 45 Gender: Female Father Name: W G Mother Name: Ionine Tipinger Source Title 1: Clinton County, Indiana Source Title 2: Index to Supplemental Record Marriage Transcript 1 Source Title 3: W. P. A. Original Record Located: County Clerk's O Book: 1 OS Page: 259 ************************ Name: John F Ludington Spouse Name: Sarah A Holmlick Marriage Date: 16 Mar 1890 Marriage County: Clinton Source Title 1: Clinton County, Indiana Source Title 2: Index to Marriage Record 1852 - 1905 Inclusive Vol Source Title 3: W. P. A. Original Record Located: County Clerk's O Book: C-9 OS Page: 112

JJB, WE NEED INFO FROM INDIANA ON ANN AND THAT IS WHY I SENT YOU ALL THOSE CASES, WHICH I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR COPYING FOR ME. IF TIME PERMITS, AND IF NOT, PLEASE ORDER, AS WE NEED SO TO FIGURE OUT THIS ANN HOLDCRAFT (HOLLCRAFT) AND SEVERAL SIMILAR SPELLINGS. IT HOLDS SOME OF THE CLUES TO THESE VARIOUS COMFORTS. THE THING IS OUR THOMAS WAS IN CC, OHIO, AND RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO HIM LIVED JAMES HOLDCRAFT, SR. . HE WAS THE FATHER OF ANN. SHE NEXT APPEARS MARRYING A COMFORT, BUT WHO IS HE?????????? AND THAT MARRIAGE ONLY LASTS A YEAR OR SO AND THEN SHE MARRIED A YOUNGER LUDDINGTON NAMED ABNER WHO WAS NOT OF AGE?????????? OUR THOMAS HAD DAVID AND ASAHEL AND ON AND ON WHO MD THERE BUT COMFORT MARRIED THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR, ANN. ABNER WAS IN OHIO, SO WAS FAYETTE AND THEN THE HOLDCRAFTS, DAVID LUD AND SOME OF THE FAMILY SHOW UP IN CC. INDIANA. THEY ALL KEEP PASSING THE NAMES AROUND AND IT IS SO DIFFICULT. BRICK WALLS FOR SURE, ELAINE. DOTTIE NOW FOR FAYETTE IN IROQUIS, WAS HE THERE WITH ANOTHER COMFORT???? AND WHY WAS HE THERE INSTEAD OF CC, INDIANA. WHO HAS THESE ANSWERS?

Yes I got it but it does not solve many problems. We know believe that Comfort, the father of Abner, lost his first wife and m a Rebecca Dayton, hence the name Rebecca used in the wedding approval. Rebecca had a sister that married DeLafayette Ludington, the brother to Zalmon and Comfort, who died at a young age and left many of his kids for DeLafayette to take to OH and IN where he himself appears to have died shortly after reaching the Vincennes area. of IN. Wiz ----- Original Message ----- From: <OLSONDOT@aol.com> To: <LUDDINGTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [LUDDINGTON] DAR Patriot Index > WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THESE COMFORTS. RON, DID YOU GET MY COPY OF > FAYETTE > VOUCHING FOR ABNER TO MARRY ANN. I HOPE JJB CAN SHED SOME LIGHT ON > ANN > HOLDCRAFT AS HE IS GOING TO CC. INDIANA THIS MONTH. SHE IS PART OF THE > PROBLEM. DOTTIE > > > ==== LUDDINGTON Mailing List ==== > Visit the new Luddington Message Board at > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.luddington > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

WE KNOW THIS COMFORT PROBLEM IS EVEN STRANGER BECAUSE COMFORT WHO MARRIED ANN HOLDCRAFT IN CC OHIO WAS ONLY MARRIED TO HER FOR . THEN SHE SUDDENLY MARRIED ABNER......WHO IS YOUNGER......AND WE ARE NOT EVEN SURE IF THAT IS HIS FULL NAME. SOME THINK HE IS STEPHEN, SOME THINK HE MIGHT BE COMFORT, AND ON AND ON THE PUZZLE GOES. HOWEVER, ON HIS MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE IT SAYS ABNER'S MOM IS 'REBECCA' AND SHE GIVES FAYETTE THE RIGHT TO VOUCH FOR THE MARRIAGE IN OHIO, SO SHE WAS NOT THERE AT THE TIME. AND WHO IS THIS ?? WHAT DO YOU SAY, RON?? DOES ANYONE HAVE ANN AND HER SECOND HUSBAND, ABNER, IN 1840. IT WOULD SHOW IF SHE HAD ANY CHILD BY COMFORT BUT I DON'T THINK SHE DID. EITHER THEY DIVORCED OR HE DIED.

Me too. Hope it keeps coming. Wiz ----- Original Message ----- From: <OLSONDOT@aol.com> To: <LUDDINGTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [LUDDINGTON] DAR Patriot Index > GLAD TO SEE MY MAIL. RON AND I THOUGHT NO ONE LOVED US. DGO > > > ==== LUDDINGTON Mailing List ==== > Visit the new Luddington Message Board at > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.luddington > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THESE COMFORTS. RON, DID YOU GET MY COPY OF FAYETTE VOUCHING FOR ABNER TO MARRY ANN. I HOPE JJB CAN SHED SOME LIGHT ON ANN HOLDCRAFT AS HE IS GOING TO CC. INDIANA THIS MONTH. SHE IS PART OF THE PROBLEM. DOTTIE

Hi, James, Sorry, I have lived with this brickwall so long that I dream of it at night but sometimes I do forget about both Indiana and Ohio having a county with this name. I am stuck in Clinton County, Ohio in 1840. My direct ancestor's name is Lafayette Ludington, born in New York in 1800, per 1850 census for Iroquois County, Illinois. I have studied this problem from all angles for some time and have developed the theory that Lafayette is the son of Comfort Ludington and Mary Mulkin which makes him the grandson of Capt. Comfort Ludington and Elizabeth Nickerson. I would love to put Capt. Comfort Ludington's name on one of the ancestor bars on my DAR insignia. When studying the dates of birth for the children of Comfort and Mary (Mulkin) Ludington, there appears to be a period of about 5 years between Comfort (the fellow who married Ann Holdcraft) and Mary. I think it is possible that is when Mary (Mulkin) died and Comfort #2 married Rebecca (Dayton). It gets complicated when you begin to name all the Comfort Ludingtons but there are three in a row and I think my Lafayette is the son of #2 and the brother of #3. I think of Capt. Comfort as #1. I just can't prove my Lafayette's connection. Now, aren't you sorry you asked? Just teasing...I welcome any help any one has to offer. Elaine

GLAD TO SEE MY MAIL. RON AND I THOUGHT NO ONE LOVED US. DGO

HAVING NEVER CONSIDERED IT, WHAT ARE THE ADVANTAGES AND WHERE IS YOUR CC PROBLEM? DOTTIE

Hi, Everybody, Today, I learned of a person who is interested in joining the DAR using a Lud ancestor as their patriot. I was able to quickly check my old copy of the DAR Patriot Index and find that her ancestor is a confirmed patriot. I happen to have two older copies of the Patriot Index here at home and will be happy to look up something for any Lud who is interested. I have found great pleasure in my membership in the DAR and in the C.A.R. memberships of my children and grandchildren. I certainly look forward to the day when I can submit the supplemental paper on my Lud ancestor who served in the Revolution. Unfortunately, I need to prove that connection first. Any volunteers to help me with my Clinton County brick wall out there? Elaine

Hi Elaine, are you talking about Clinton Co. Ohio or Indiana? James Dek623@aol.com wrote: Hi, Everybody, Today, I learned of a person who is interested in joining the DAR using a Lud ancestor as their patriot. I was able to quickly check my old copy of the DAR Patriot Index and find that her ancestor is a confirmed patriot. I happen to have two older copies of the Patriot Index here at home and will be happy to look up something for any Lud who is interested. I have found great pleasure in my membership in the DAR and in the C.A.R. memberships of my children and grandchildren. I certainly look forward to the day when I can submit the supplemental paper on my Lud ancestor who served in the Revolution. Unfortunately, I need to prove that connection first. Any volunteers to help me with my Clinton County brick wall out there? Elaine ==== LUDDINGTON Mailing List ==== Visit the new Luddington Message Board at http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.luddington ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Hi, Everybody, For sometime now, I have been trying to locate a copy of this book for purchase but have not been successful. The complete title is: Colonel Henry Ludington, a memoir and it was compiled by Willis Fletcher Johnson under the direction of Lavina Elizabeth Ludington and Charles Henry Ludington in 1907. I am wondering if anybody on the list has a copy they would like to sell or, perhaps, would duplicate for me. If so, you may contact me directly at my email address, _DEK623@aol.com_ (mailto:DEK623@aol.com) , and we can make the arrangements. I'm keeping my fingers crossed in hopes that I will hear from one of you. Thanks, Elaine Kaufman

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I contacted Shirley Swallow Bing. She is a sister to Nancy Ludington in Wyoming. Asked her if she wanted to join. ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Bush" <karenbush@cableone.net> To: <LUDDINGTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 12:00 PM Subject: [LUDDINGTON] FW: {not a subscriber} Henry & Sybil Ludington roots > > > -----Original Message----- > From: J. Bing Swallow [mailto:jbing@netdirect.net] > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 3:39 AM > To: LUDDINGTON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: {not a subscriber} Henry & Sybil Ludington roots > > I would like to get in touch with Barb Favoino about Ludington roots back > to > the American Revolution. > > > ==== LUDDINGTON Mailing List ==== > Visit the new Luddington Message Board at > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.luddington > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

-----Original Message----- From: J. Bing Swallow [mailto:jbing@netdirect.net] Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 3:39 AM To: LUDDINGTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: {not a subscriber} Henry & Sybil Ludington roots I would like to get in touch with Barb Favoino about Ludington roots back to the American Revolution.

Yes Thos. son of John has two sisters as you show. The info on Seth of 1788 being a son of Levi is not correct. When I first started this study I was told that he was but later discovered he was not. However I left him as a son until I discover the actual parentage. The same goes for Seth's supposed father, Levi. We have him as a son of an Asa but only because he can be quickly moved somewhere else. Asa never married and was killed in the F and I Wars. Some other folks have taken what I have and put it out to Ancestry, LDS, and other systems, as being correct information, even after I asked them not to do that. . I do not give it out anymore.....only bits and pieces, and I'm sure you can understand why. Yes I can follow both your lines in my study.............I wish mine was a clear as that. Many others watching this info between us can also trace back to Wm. Nancy, Mildred, Karen, Fred Ludington, etc etc. Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Ludington" <mludington@albion.edu> To: <LUDDINGTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [LUDDINGTON] G.F. LUDINGTON - son born 1932 > Thanks for the info. > I have Seth C in my tree, but the only Archibald was another line. > I believe Thomas has 2 sisters, Laura K and Ann L, both of whom went to > Albion College. > I have Seth C/Levi/Asa//Eliphalet/William/William (1607). Does that agree > with your tree? > I am Jack/Lewis J/Lewis/Philo B/Jeremiah/Lemuel/James/John/Thomas/William > (1607) and > Jack/Lewis J/Lewis/Philo B/Jeremiah/Lemuel/Elenor Dains/Mercy > Luddington Dains/William/William (1607)

Thanks for the info. I have Seth C in my tree, but the only Archibald was another line. I believe Thomas has 2 sisters, Laura K and Ann L, both of whom went to Albion College. I have Seth C/Levi/Asa//Eliphalet/William/William (1607). Does that agree with your tree? I am Jack/Lewis J/Lewis/Philo B/Jeremiah/Lemuel/James/John/Thomas/William (1607) and Jack/Lewis J/Lewis/Philo B/Jeremiah/Lemuel/Elenor Dains/Mercy Luddington Dains/William/William (1607) At 10:16 PM 4/20/2006, you wrote: >John is from my clan. He has never been very responsive to inquiries. Here >he is shown below with middle names shown. > >Thomas Lamson/John Samuel/Samuel Guy/Archibald T/Seth C Luddington, b 1788 >in NY. >Seth C is my g/g/grandfather too and I believe he may well be from your >branch as the name "Lemuel" was used a lot. >Seth immigrated to Upper Canada (now Ontario) abt 1824 and had a large >family there. Some of the kids moved to MI and many of the ones in and near >Pt Huron, Lapeer and Owassa are related to Seth. >My g/grandather (Joseph) stayed in Ont. near present day Woodstock, where he >and Seth and others, including my parents and a brother, are buried. >I live just a few hundred yards from the cemetery. >Y-DNA tests prove that we are related to the Wm of 1607 lineage but do not >pinpoint the actual person involved, or the time frame. >There are some Luddingtons in Detroit too and they come from the Nova Scotia >Luddingtons who were Loyalists that were expelled from the USA after the Rev >War. >See my website at "www.ludington.name" The man in the lower rt of the pic >is my grandfather Andrew with his siblngs at Joseph's funeral in 1911. > >Ron > > > From: Martin Ludington <mludington@albion.edu> > > Reply-To: LUDDINGTON-L@rootsweb.com > > Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:53:12 -0400 > > To: LUDDINGTON-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [LUDDINGTON] G.F. LUDINGTON - son born 1932 > > Resent-From: LUDDINGTON-L@rootsweb.com > > Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 16:53:42 -0600 > > > > Ron, > > > > Do you happen to know the descent of John (Jack) Ludington (not my > > father) who was CEO of Dow Chemical. I met him because he was on the > > board of trustees of my alma mater and former employer, Albion > > College. I asked him and he said his family came via Canada, but he > > knew little. His son Tom was just named a federal judge. > > >==== LUDDINGTON Mailing List ==== >Visit the new Luddington Message Board at >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.luddington > >============================== >Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx