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Hi Folks: Just wanted to pass on a little information. When I had a passport issued in 1972, it read on page one inside the front cover " A Canadian Citizen is a British Subject". I called my daughter who has a recent passport to see if it still read the same and it just states the the "Bearer is a Canadian Citizen" I went to Wikipedia and looked up British Subject. It states the Commonwealth Act of 1947 was replaced by the Citizenship Act, which came into force 15 Feb 1977 -- Therefore, a Canadian was no longer listed as a "British Subject" but a "Commonwealth Citizen". In 1919 Canada joined the "League of Nations" in its own right, and in 1931 the "Statute of Westminister" confirmed that no act of the British parliament would extend to Canada without its consrnt. Hopes this helps ----- Original Message ----- From: "ron ludington" <ronlud@execulink.com> To: <LUDDINGTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 8:01 PM Subject: Re: [LUDDINGTON] (no subject) > They were considered to be British subjects right up to 1925 or so. Now > we are just Canucks. Canada wanted her independace after WW 1 and insisted > on it. So we did not have to have the Brits as our protectors any longer. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <SugahDayz@aol.com> > To: <LUDDINGTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 3:55 PM > Subject: Re: [LUDDINGTON] (no subject) > > >> Ron, Just a question. Are or were Canadians British subjects? SanDee >> >> >> ==== LUDDINGTON Mailing List ==== >> Visit the new Luddington Message Board at >> http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.luddington >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ==== LUDDINGTON Mailing List ==== > Visit the new Luddington Message Board at > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.luddington > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

They were considered to be British subjects right up to 1925 or so. Now we are just Canucks. Canada wanted her independace after WW 1 and insisted on it. So we did not have to have the Brits as our protectors any longer. ----- Original Message ----- From: <SugahDayz@aol.com> To: <LUDDINGTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [LUDDINGTON] (no subject) > Ron, Just a question. Are or were Canadians British subjects? SanDee > > > ==== LUDDINGTON Mailing List ==== > Visit the new Luddington Message Board at > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.luddington > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Ron, Just a question. Are or were Canadians British subjects? SanDee

Hi Dani -- it's done. You can check on what your missing at the threaded archives -- http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ just type in Luddington. Newest messages are at the bottom of the page. I have put your address on the "Accept List" so if you should want to send a message to us, you can, without being subbed to the list -- but to see what we are saying, you will have to check the Threaded archives. Good luck and keep in touch, Karen Bush hi can you please remove me from your mailing list thanks. as we will be away from our computers for 4 months or more and are trying to keep the traffic down to the bare minimum, again thanks. dani luddington

The first fellow is James Henry Ludington Jr. Not sure where the "M" came from.. His parentage is James Henry/James H/ David/Levi of Upper Canada. The seond fellow is unknown to me but is probably from the Lud branch that lived in that area of SD. Rachel can you spot him anywhere? b 1944 died 1999. Obit anyone? Ron > Black Hills National Cemetery > Sturgis, Meade County, South Dakota > > >> Ludington, James M, b. 03/04/1924, d. 04/12/1974, CPL US MARINE CORPS, >> Plot: E 896, bur. 04/16/1974, * >> Ludington, Merlin Dale, b. 01/27/1944, d. 07/03/1999, US Navy, HM3, Res: >> Edgemont, SD, Plot: I 0 1137, bur. 07/08/1999

EVERYONE IS SO HELPFUL AT THE FHC AND SO MUCH PROGRESS IS BEING MADE IN HELPS. THANKS, KAREN!

hi can you please remove me from your mailing list thanks. as we will be away from our computers for 4 months or more and are trying to keep the traffic down to the bare minimum, again thanks. dani luddington ----- Original Message ----- From: LUDDINGTON-D-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:LUDDINGTON-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: LUDDINGTON-D@rootsweb.com<mailto:LUDDINGTON-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 7:35 AM Subject: LUDDINGTON-D Digest V06 #99

I guess it is. I just went up to the site and there was a message that all of our upgrades were gone and for $29.95 we could get the new upgrades????? With my volunteer work I am unable to maintain the site the way it should be maintained so if you would like to do it go ahead.. Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dek623@aol.com> To: <LUDDINGTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [LUDDINGTON] Joseph Ludington > Hi, Fred, > > Is it true that the Luddington site at Myfamily.com is closed? I have > not > been there quite a while because I was very busy with other Lud work but > if it > is and you do not want to start it again, I will be glad to do so. I > maintain a site now for the Rood family and I have found it to be a great > spot for > dropping off items such as the newspaper articles I find and pictures, > etc. > > It is the perfect solution to sending something to the entire group with > one > simple email for things such as the page Ed has to share. Just let me > know, > it only takes minutes to set it up. > > Thanks, > Elaine > > (Sorry, I couldn't check it for myself as I don't remember my password.) > > > ==== LUDDINGTON Mailing List ==== > Visit the new Luddington Message Board at > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.luddington > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

Speaking of newspapers.... not only are their the newspaper notifications, which now can be found in the digital newspapers, but I am seeing also monthly articles on the Surrogate's Court telling what wills are being probated, heirs listed, judicial settlements, etc. The trick, when searching online digital newspapers, is don't stop with the index, if you don't find the item. If you know an article is recurring, use the browse feature and look through the complete paper. For notice of probate, search the likely dates for the papers being published near the hometown. It takes a little extra time and it is worth it when you find what you need. Karen -----Original Message----- From: M Inoue [mailto:meinoue@cox.net] Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 11:23 AM To: LUDDINGTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LUDDINGTON] WILLS Thanks. That is very good to know. Sometimes a simple thing like a newspaper clippings notifying the families that the will is to be probated is full of info. Mar

Black Hills National Cemetery Sturgis, Meade County, South Dakota > Ludington, James M, b. 03/04/1924, d. 04/12/1974, CPL US MARINE CORPS, > Plot: E 896, bur. 04/16/1974, * > Ludington, Merlin Dale, b. 01/27/1944, d. 07/03/1999, US Navy, HM3, Res: > Edgemont, SD, Plot: I 0 1137, bur. 07/08/1999 >

Thanks. That is very good to know. Sometimes a simple thing like a newspaper clippings notifying the families that the will is to be probated is full of info. Mar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Bush" <karenbush@cableone.net> To: <LUDDINGTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 10:57 AM Subject: RE: [LUDDINGTON] WILLS > In many cases you can get everything. You have to look in the catalog for > the county and see what has been filmed. I do a lot in Allegany county > and > the Surrogate's Index, will books, administration books, guardian books, > and > will boxes have been all microfilmed. The will boxes have all the goodies > that you are talking about. At around $5 per film, and 5 or 10 cents to > copy a page, it is a lot cheaper than the $75 + to send for it from the > county. But not all counties are that completely filmed. > > Karen > > -----Original Message----- > From: M Inoue [mailto:meinoue@cox.net] > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 7:35 AM > To: LUDDINGTON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LUDDINGTON] WILLS > > About wills. I have never been to FHC to look up probate records. I have > collected last summer many wills from Putnam County. When you go the > surrogate there they order a file and you can look at the file. (all > original documents) Then you tell them what you want copied. I always > copied the entire file. When you look up wills at LDS do you "get the > whole > > file"? A will comes with the actual declaration page and then the Proving > of the will. After the person dies the administrator has to take the will > to the Surrogate Court and inform the next of kin. That usually tells you > where the next of kin reside. In some cases wills are contested and > testimony is taken. I have two such wills. Incredible information can be > found there. People are sworn in and tell their relationship to the > deceased. You can then get the names of their parents. I am wondering if > FHC copies all that kind of stuff or just the declaration page. Hope this > was helpful Mary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karen Bush" <karenbush@cableone.net> > To: <LUDDINGTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 11:16 PM > Subject: RE: [LUDDINGTON] WILLS > > >> Yes! Most of the wills have been microfilmed. Look in the county and >> then >> under Probate -- they are the Surrogate films. >> >> You can also check and index here: >> http://www.sampubco.com/wills/ny/newyork.htm >> >> If you can't look yourself at a FHC, let me know... possibly, I could get >> my >> daughter to look as she is up in Utah. >> >> Karen >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: OLSONDOT@aol.com [mailto:OLSONDOT@aol.com] >> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 12:32 PM >> To: LUDDINGTON-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [LUDDINGTON] WILLS >> >> KAREN, WOULD FHC'S HAVE THESE WILLS ON FILM? WOULD IT BE IN THE SLC >> LIBRARY> >> ? DGO >> >> >> ==== LUDDINGTON Mailing List ==== >> Visit the new Luddington Message Board at >> http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.luddington >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> >> ==== LUDDINGTON Mailing List ==== >> Visit the new Luddington Message Board at >> http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.luddington >> >> ============================== >> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> > > > > ==== LUDDINGTON Mailing List ==== > Visit the new Luddington Message Board at > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.luddington > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > ==== LUDDINGTON Mailing List ==== > Visit the new Luddington Message Board at > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.luddington > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

In many cases you can get everything. You have to look in the catalog for the county and see what has been filmed. I do a lot in Allegany county and the Surrogate's Index, will books, administration books, guardian books, and will boxes have been all microfilmed. The will boxes have all the goodies that you are talking about. At around $5 per film, and 5 or 10 cents to copy a page, it is a lot cheaper than the $75 + to send for it from the county. But not all counties are that completely filmed. Karen -----Original Message----- From: M Inoue [mailto:meinoue@cox.net] Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 7:35 AM To: LUDDINGTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LUDDINGTON] WILLS About wills. I have never been to FHC to look up probate records. I have collected last summer many wills from Putnam County. When you go the surrogate there they order a file and you can look at the file. (all original documents) Then you tell them what you want copied. I always copied the entire file. When you look up wills at LDS do you "get the whole file"? A will comes with the actual declaration page and then the Proving of the will. After the person dies the administrator has to take the will to the Surrogate Court and inform the next of kin. That usually tells you where the next of kin reside. In some cases wills are contested and testimony is taken. I have two such wills. Incredible information can be found there. People are sworn in and tell their relationship to the deceased. You can then get the names of their parents. I am wondering if FHC copies all that kind of stuff or just the declaration page. Hope this was helpful Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Bush" <karenbush@cableone.net> To: <LUDDINGTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 11:16 PM Subject: RE: [LUDDINGTON] WILLS > Yes! Most of the wills have been microfilmed. Look in the county and > then > under Probate -- they are the Surrogate films. > > You can also check and index here: > http://www.sampubco.com/wills/ny/newyork.htm > > If you can't look yourself at a FHC, let me know... possibly, I could get > my > daughter to look as she is up in Utah. > > Karen > > -----Original Message----- > From: OLSONDOT@aol.com [mailto:OLSONDOT@aol.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 12:32 PM > To: LUDDINGTON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LUDDINGTON] WILLS > > KAREN, WOULD FHC'S HAVE THESE WILLS ON FILM? WOULD IT BE IN THE SLC > LIBRARY> > ? DGO > > > ==== LUDDINGTON Mailing List ==== > Visit the new Luddington Message Board at > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.luddington > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > ==== LUDDINGTON Mailing List ==== > Visit the new Luddington Message Board at > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.luddington > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > ==== LUDDINGTON Mailing List ==== Visit the new Luddington Message Board at http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.luddington ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Yes, I got them and sent you a msg verifying. I don't know why this msg came up again. It may have something to do with the trouble aol has been having. Mildred

Hi, Mildred, I am a little confused. I did try to locate Carolyn but was unsuccessful. I have since sent the letters to you and you acknowledged them this morning. Isn't that correct? Thanks, Elaine

Could be! James Hansford mar Alice Banta. Their children were Clyde (1884-8/4/1953), Ira (12/10/1886-12/22/1906), Raymond (7/11/1889-2/11/1998), Alva (7/14/1894-7/28/1894), Glen (7/30/1896-1966) & Roy (1880-1950). Clyde mar. Nellie Reed. At the time of his death, he was living with his brother, Ray. I believe Glen was the grandfather (?) of Carolyn Fitzgerald in Florida. She would probably be interested in theletters. If not, I am. She is not on internet but send me your e-mail addr and I will send you her snail mail addr (I lost your msg while running tomy Mac to retrieve my records. Mildred

A preliminary search shows' no Winchell or Eldridge Sorry there Are some White's in the Cemetery. After I have a chance to look I'll tell you the names. Got a little busy just now but wanted to get back to you. Interesting last name you have there. Just go an e-mail from Dick Wicks looking for family (maiden name Weeks and Wicks is a variation of that) We were not connect as far as I can tell but there were Week's there in Dutchess as well. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lori Wicks" <highwayone01@yahoo.com> To: <LUDDINGTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [LUDDINGTON] books in my Library > Hello, > Thanks for offering to share your books. Can you tell me if there are any > WINCHELL'S, ELDRIDGE, or WHITE surnames in either your gravestone book or > the The Commemorative and Biographical Records of Dutchess County NY. > Thank you in advance. > Lori > > M Inoue <meinoue@cox.net> wrote: > I own the following books and will do lookups > > Old Gravestones of Dutchess County NY Vol II 1924 Poucher > > Town Records, Fredericktown to Kent, 1788-1841 > > This book was a bit of a disappointment. I does have an index but mostly > can only help place a person. I.e. Comfort is on page 2. It places him in > 1788 In Fredrick's town as a Fence Viewer (spelling Ludenton) > > and > > The Commemorative and Biographical Records of Dutchess County NY PT I and > PT II no Ludington's but may have other family names. > > Mary > > > ==== LUDDINGTON Mailing List ==== > Visit the new Luddington Message Board at > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.luddington > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== LUDDINGTON Mailing List ==== > Visit the new Luddington Message Board at > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.luddington > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

so happy to have this, Wiz and so appreciate the help on Wills from Karen & Mary. D

Hello, Thanks for offering to share your books. Can you tell me if there are any WINCHELL'S, ELDRIDGE, or WHITE surnames in either your gravestone book or the The Commemorative and Biographical Records of Dutchess County NY. Thank you in advance. Lori M Inoue <meinoue@cox.net> wrote: I own the following books and will do lookups Old Gravestones of Dutchess County NY Vol II 1924 Poucher Town Records, Fredericktown to Kent, 1788-1841 This book was a bit of a disappointment. I does have an index but mostly can only help place a person. I.e. Comfort is on page 2. It places him in 1788 In Fredrick's town as a Fence Viewer (spelling Ludenton) and The Commemorative and Biographical Records of Dutchess County NY PT I and PT II no Ludington's but may have other family names. Mary ==== LUDDINGTON Mailing List ==== Visit the new Luddington Message Board at http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.luddington ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com