>From Robert Coontz, Wednesday, June 10, 1998: <<Hi, all. I've just had time to glance at Eric Johnson's very interesting <<posting. <<So, Henderson Lucas (Basel<Thomas<Charles<Thomas) wasn't related to the <<Susannah Lucas (William<Edward<Edward) who married Robert Buckles? Yet he <<married Maria Buckles, who was related to Susannah ... how? And some of the <<Shepherdstown Lucases came from England, while others came from Germany? <<Wow. Time to start drawing some family trees. The Robert Buckles who m Susannah Lucas of the Robert Lucas - Governor line were in Va as far as I can understand. And the Robert Buckles who m Susannah Lucas were in Md and then some of the family migrated to Fayatte Co, Pa. I'm not sure if the two Buckles are related or not. I know the two Susannah's are not, at least while we are in this country. (My speculation). As far as the Buckles go...I am posting everything Kemp has in her book on the Buckles related to this book. See the stuff at the end of this e-mail. As far as drawing some family trees...I did just that on the Governor and the Kemp Lucas's. I've looked for the two charts for two days now. They are probably buried under 10 tons of genealogy papers. But I will find them! There is also a letter written by a close family member of the Governor Lucas line explaining much of the family tree and I have a couple of nice family group sheet on this family also. I've got to find them before I speculate any more. <<Too bad I didn't know there was going to be such interest in BRASHEARS. <<Yesterday, at the Wisconsin Historical Society in Madison, I was copying <<down information from two books, "Marriage Records of Berkeley Conty, <<Virginia (1781-1854)" and "Tombstone Inscriptions, Jefferson County, West <<Virginia." I'm sure I spotted masses of BRASHEARS-es in them, but I flipped <<right past. Maybe I can snag a few next time around. <<Meanwhile, I see that my files disagree with what Eric said about Edward <<Lucas's wives. They say that Edward Lucas (3.) was indeed married to <<Bridgett Scott. But it was his *son* Edward who married <<- Mary Darke (NOT "Drake"; she was related to the Revolutionary War <<general) <<- Elizabeth Corn (or Cran), and <<- <somebody> Wells. <<Anybody know for sure which Edward married whom? Like I said before, I need to pause on this line so I can find the information I researched years ago. I think it might clear up a couple of issues. <<Thanks, Eric, for clearing things up. But I have a feeling we're not out of <<the woods yet... Agree. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg. <<Robert Coontz <<Waukesha, Wisconsin To Robert and the Lucas Group: My mind is racing too fast with these two Lucas families, I'm afraid I'm going to trip and stub my brain! However, listed below is what I was able to glean from Kemp's book on the Buckles: The index shows 19 names on pages 37, 98, 101, 104, 105,107, 108, 109. Page 37: Lists the marriage of Robert Buckles to Susannah Lucas of the Governor line. Page 98: Lists Susannah Lucas (#61) b 1763 Md, daughter of Thomas Lucas (#50) b 1722 Md, m Robert Buckles. Page 101: Lists Lavice Lucas b ca 1791, Berkeley Co, Va, 3rd child of Basel (#64 and brother of Susannah Lucas (#61 above)). She lived with her brother Henderson and mentions in her will the adjoining farm of Aaron B. Buckles, that Aaron was a witness and administrator and who also put up the $2000 bond. Lists Henderson Lucas (#65) b 1793, Berkeley Co, Va, 5th child of Basel (#64) and Elizabeth Brashears Lucas, m Maria Buckles b 1803 Berkeley Co, Va. Page 104: Lists Henderson Lucas (#65) b 1793, Berkeley Co, Va, m Maria Buckles b 1803 Berkeley Co, Va. Maria was b near her parents Abraham and Elizabeth Buckles in Jefferson Co, WVa. Also b there is Maria's sister Sarah who d 1844 age 21, brother Lewis d 1844. Abraham and Elizabeth had other children: Aaron, Ephraim, Phoebe (who m David Osborne), Elizabeth Ann (who m William Osborne), and Mary H. (who m Edward Robison). Abraham Buckles b 1779 d 1839 who m Elizabeth b 1779 d 1857 was the son of Robert Buckles Sr. Mention is made of an indenture that mentions the land of Ephraim Buckles that adjoins Henderson Lucas'. Page 105: Mention of land of Henderson Lucas adjoining the Buckles land. Quote: "On 25 June 1846 regarding the survey made by J.P. Kearfoot this land had originally been purchased by Lewis and Robert Buckles (brother of Maria Lucas) from Edward Lucas, Sr. and his wife Frances. Lewis Buckles d without a will leaving this tract of land 140 acres, 2 rods, and 23 perches. The property was later sold to Robert Buckles, brother of Lewis, on 14 June 1847 for $369.84. One Wm Lucas acted as Special Commissioner on the case (See Bk 52 p 501.) Page 107: Susannah Lucas (#61) b 1763 Frederick Co, Va m in Berkeley Co, Va, Robert Buckles who was d by 5 Oct 1857. He was the son of Abraham b 1779 and Elizabeth Buckles b 1779. Robert Buckles was a brother of Maria, wife of Henderson Lucas. Page 108: Talks about Abraham's will which mentions his property to be divided equally among his 4 sons and 5 daus: Ephraim, Aaron, Robert L., and Lewis; Eliza Ann, then wife of Wm Osborne; Phoebe, wife of Thos David Osborne; Mary H., wife of Edward Roberts; Maria, wife of Henderson Lucas, and Sarah Buckles. Page 109: Robert and Susannah Lucas Buckles had 5 children: 1. Randolph N. Buckles 2. Martha Elzabeth Buckles 3. Aaron Dow Buckles 4. Robert L. Buckles 5. Virginia Buckles No other information was had on this family. However, Kemp comments on one Aaron Buckles in Greene Co, Ohio who m Anna Cosley, grand dau of Tabitha Lucas and her husband Wm Cosley. Now, folks, this may seem like lines upon lines of stuff that isn't the Lucas surname. But, in those times families migrated together, families intermarried, and it wasn't uncommon for first cousins to marry only to have their children marry first cousins. I guess I got off the point I was trying to make. That somewhere in this mess something makes sense of why I typed all this. Eric aka "brain fading fast" P.S. This still doesn't give any hint regarding the two Robert Buckles being related.