This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jodistefano Surnames: Daniel Cook/Lydia Churchill Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.loyalists/777/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Esther Wright's book "the Loyalists of New Brunswick" is not longer in print and I cannot find it in any of my local public libraries. However, my great-great-great . . . grandfather is in that book and I would like to get a copy of what Ms. Wright writes about Grandpa Cook. His story starts on page 212 of her book Family lore is that he was a loyalist from Dutchess County and I have found some land grants issued to him. But I don't know who his wife was. And I am not sure how his son, Daniel Cook Jr. followed him to Canada. Daniel Cook Jr. married Lydia Churchill (Nova Scotia). But I'm not sure what happened to them from 1775- 1785. If anyone can help with getting that page from Ms. Wrights' book, I would very much appreciate it. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: young1451 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.loyalists/704.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Recently I too discovered that Grant (Duldreaggan) , John aka John Duldreggan Grant aka Mr John Grant as he appears on Lots 25 & 26 Street Road Charlottenburg Glengarry McNiff's Map 1786 had been inserted on the UEL list . Supposedly someone from the Vancouver Branch of UELAC had it PROVEN . This same Vancouver Branch UELAC has apparently misplaced the records of this , as apparently the National UELAC has as well . Curiouser and curiouser . This same John Duldreggan Grant had remained in Scotland with his 9 children into year 1785 when he and 8 of his children [no wife] boarded Ship [ship's name in dispute] and destination Glengarry Canada . By deceit or misadventure the Ship put in at New York , where they overwintered , and they came overland to Glengarry in 1786 . This John Duldreggan Grant never took up land or settled in the American Colonies prior to the Rev War ending in 1783 . How does this make him a Loyalist ! He married a Mary McIntyre in Montreal and had 8 more! kids with her , yet I have not seen any Land Petitions from any of his 16 children as s/d of a UE . Why can't UELAC furnish their PROOF !!! I am eager to hear other's thoughts on this matter . Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: young1451 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.loyalists/222.1.2.1.1.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Marion Lees . J. YOUNG from Cornwall Ontario here , heart of Loyalist Country of SD&G . I am interested in your Black Peter Grant of Craskie . His story with the Bonnie Prince seems better known than his ancestry . I have various lines for this Black Peter Grant , but would prefer to discuss them offline by email jyoung-young AT hotmail.com . I do have him married to Janet Duldreggan Grant b. 1736 d. 1766 daughter of Angus Grant b. 1701 d. 1779 and Hannah Grant . Janet Duldreggan Grant being a sister of Isabella Duldreggan Grant [wife of Simon Fraser Sr. and mother of Jr. the Explorer] , sister of John Duldreggan Grant Lots 25 & 26 Street Road , sister also to Peter Duldreggan Grant b. abt. 1745 . Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: young1451 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.loyalists/222.5.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Ulla . I am surprised that no one has answered your query directly . Your Finlay Grant is to be foung on the Kingsborough Patent Rent Roll with Rent Due Date 25 Sept 1778 , which puts him in a grouping with my ancestors William Carr and his son in law David McEwan . Their Ship the Snow Brittanie left Scotland 1773 [probably with Finlay aboard] and put in at Dublin where my guys boarded . I agree that he is not likely directly related to the other Grant mentioned in this thread . Finlay Grant is found on the KRRNY muster roll , born 1736 , no wife's name given , but one son and daughter . That son would be John Grant , daughter unknown , and probably Lewis Grant is a son of Duncan Grant Sr . Finlay Grant drew the west half Lot 19 Front Charlottenburg which he exchanged for the east half of Lot 17 South Branch Road to be next his son John Grant who held west half of that Lot 17 . The trade was with the Heirs of Kenneth McKenzie , but since the trade took place while Patrick McNiff was making his 1786 Map , your Finley Grant appears nowhere on that McNiff's Map 1786 but a McKenzie name appears on both these Lots . This John Grant later had to go to court in 1800s to prove his ownership east half Lot 17 , which is still in the family today , and known as the Thornapple Tree . Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bgressel Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.loyalists/775.4.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Elaine, The 1793 marriage of John Grant and Flora McDoanald is not the John and Flora in my tree. My John Grant married a Flora Grant daughter of Peter Grant from Lancaster. She was born about 1781 according to her tombstone in the Summerstown Salem United Church. According to their records, her tombstone reads: Flora Grant-daughter of Peter Grant and wife of John Grant b. Glenmorrison, North Britain, d. Dec 10, 1821, age 70 years. Erected by his sons Alex, Peter, and Duncan. I think the daughter of Duncan Grant was born 29 Aug 1809, d. 09 Nov 1868. All the best, Barb Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: unsinkablemissd Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.loyalists/776/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm trying to find out if Sir John Pell born in Westchester county NY, his son Thomas, born in Pelham Manor in 1680 and grandson Joshua, born 1710 in Pelham Manor were loyalists. Is there a website with lists of Westchester county loyalists to view? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance' Dana Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: young1451 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.loyalists/775.4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Elaine . I think your answers may already be posted on the Glengarry Board Rootsweb . Go there and look for a Posting titled Alexander McDonald [type Alexander McDonald in the search box] , a posting dated 8 Aug 2003 , followed up 9 Aug 2003 by Tal MacDonald may be your guy . Anyhow your answers probably are to be found on Glengarry Board , so after you have found this posting , put all your info into a new posting on the Glengarry Board , or you could reply to Tal's post as he is still active on that board . Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: McDonaldElaine1949 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.loyalists/775.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank You, I have these dates I purchased the book, BMD St Andrews been going through it page by page to see what I find. I did find a marriage for a John Grant Chartottenburh and Margaret Grant Lancaster I think it was for 17 October 1793 and another one John Grant and Flora McDonald 3 March 1807. So far have not found a birth for a John linking to my Duncan and Henny. The search goes on Thank you again. Elaine Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: young1451 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.loyalists/775.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have the following children for Duncan Grant & Henny McLennan , as most are christaning dates I have put abt. Ronald abt 2 May 1792 . Isabella abt 18 Aug 1794 . Janet abt 5 Nov 1801 . Margaret abt 12 May 1807 . Flora abt. 17 Sept 1809 . Catherine abt 10 Feb 1812 . I think there is also a late son named John . Presbyterrian Williamstown St Andrews Church . Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bgressel Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.loyalists/775.3.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Duncan is John Ban's brother. I imagine that these families all knew each other. I don't know the connection though. John Ban married Margaret Grant and then Flora Grant. I am trying to tease apart three Grant families. Whew! :) Barb Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bgressel Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.loyalists/775.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Duncan is John Ban Grant's brother. I imagine they all knew each other. I don't know of a connection though. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: McDonaldElaine1949 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.loyalists/775.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Flora from my tree was born 29th Aug 1809 daughter of Duncan Grant and Henny McLennan. She was baptised 17 Sept 1809. I am try to sort if this is the right Flora. There a many people who think this Flora Grant did marry Alexander McDonald, son of Duncan son of Donald son of William. Alexander was Catholic and Flora was baptised Presbyterian Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bgressel Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.loyalists/775.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Elaine, In my family tree, John Ban Grant's second wife was Flora Grant. She was the daughter of Peter Grant Senior from Lancaster. Her younger brother, Peter Grant Jr. was a shoemaker in Lancaster and married Jenet Ross. This marriage resulted in no children. From Peter Junior's will, I have pieced together a family tree for Peter Senior of Lancaster. Peter Senior was born in Scotland about 1740. His wife was Margaret Ross and was born in Scotland about 1745. They had (at least) the following children: Flora born 1781 (married to John Ban Grant),Peter Junior born 1784 (no children), Isabella born 1788 (married to James Farrell), and Alexander (?). Since there are the Scottish naming patterns to work with, Flora, who was married to John Ban Grant has a daughter named Flora Grant (she was born in 1815 and married John McArthur) so I don't think this is your Flora. It is possible your Flora could be from this Lancaster group though. As JYoung points out, the McDonnells and! Grants had many connections. I haven't sorted the Alexander out from this group (so many Alexanders). Perhaps your Flora is from this group or maybe (probably) there are more children from Peter Senior that I haven't identified and they may have had a Flora. I just thought I would throw this out as a possibility. All the best, Barb Gressel Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: McDonaldElaine1949 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.loyalists/775.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The Flora I referred to was born 29 August 1809 daughter of Duncan and Henny.. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: young1451 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.loyalists/775.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The Duncan Grant of your posting was the son of Peter Grant KRRNY who settled on Lot 10 Front Charlottenburg which he shared with Kenneth McDonell KRRNY . Henrietta Henny McLennan was the daughter of John McLennan KRRNY settled Lot 23 Street Road Charlottenburg . Duncan & Henny settled Lot 20 South Branch Road . Roderick Rory McDonell KRRNY and brother Donald Bhoir McDonell KRRNY [sons of John Dhu McDonell VI Ardnabie] were settled next door on Lot 19 . I do not know of your Flora or Alexander McDonell , but you might take a look at these McDonell men mentioned here . Good luck . Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: McDonaldElaine1949 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.loyalists/775/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I believe their daughter Flora born 1807 was married to my ancestor Alexander McDonald/ McDonnell.born 1797 son of Duncan of Donald of William. Their eldest child James Alexander was was abt 1821 but that would have made Flora only 14 at the time of his birth. Have not been able to find any marriage record. Any one know about Flora Grant. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: karenchapman47 Surnames: Lutz, House Classification: birth Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.loyalists/160.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: hi Miriah, I've been searchingfor the parents of Moses Lutz on and off for 30 years. I found him listed in a newpaper in Upper Canada. The Upper Canada Gazette. He was an attendee at a meeting. I think he was probably a Loyalist. He later moved to Indiana and married Mary House. I have lots of documentation on him after he is in the US. But I've been stumped where it comes to his parents. at one time I thought it was Sampson, but can't remember why. Have you found them??? I don't know how old your post is. Most of my ancestors prior to the Revolution lived in Pa and Va. I will check the Loyalists there for clues. Karen Funkhouser Chapman Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nvnrvail Surnames: Vail Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.loyalists/89.5.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: As I have Loyalist ancestors (surname Vail) from Westchester and Southampton, I have tried calling the NY Historical Society for information, with no response. I believe NYHS should be responsive to enquiries like this, according to their charter. Another example of unreachable bureaucracies shielded by the Internet maze. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: chrismid0181 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.loyalists/89.5.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Was anyone ever able to locate the list of 547 people who signed the NY Loyalist Declaration of Dependence? I'm looking for a Tunis Titus who was a NJ farmer who may have signed it. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PaulCaverly Surnames: DeForest Classification: biography Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.loyalists/774/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I added source information for Abraham DeForest 1767-1842 to the United Empire Loyalists directory. I also located a land petition for his son Simon DeForest 1904, Toronto. With these source records other people may be able to document their Loyalist linage to apply for a United Empire Loyalist Certificate. You need to have proof documentation all the way to yourself to apply for a certificate and you have to join the United Empire Loyalist Association. Those who can prove they are descendants of Loyalists are legally allowed to use the postnominal initials 'UE' after their name. http://www.uelac.org Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>