I meant to address this and the last email to Georgia, who sent the email on Martin's family. Any dates given for Martin and Catherine have never been confirmed: the only thing we know was his will was proven in 1779, so most likely he died then. But as far as birth/marriage dates for either, no one has found any records to determine anything but a rough estimate of year. By the way, Martin and Catherine's second child was John Loy and last child was Henry Loy (my ancestor). Delores