While we're on the subject of "Mysterious George Loy's" branch, I'll share my current "search" in hope someone may stumble across any of these Byrnes or Sharps in their own searches.... Two Loy women that I haven't been able to place in the "pre-Alamance" Orange Co., NC Loys have been from the marriage bonds of Sally Loy to William Sharp 19 March 1837 (Bondsman: Reuben Ingle Witness: Michl Holt), and of George W. Burnes who had a bond of marriage 27 June 1846 to Elizabeth L*e*oy. I find this family really tangled, the further I go. I've a feeling George W. Burnes is the same George W. Burnes who is in the 1860 census index for Iron Co., MO. Arcadia Twp. Pg. 649. I haven't been able to see the actual schedule, but found the index online. He could possibly be the same George Byrnes who is in 1850 St. Louis Co., St. Louis 3rd Ward pg. 404 as well. George is probably some close relation to Alfred Byrnes who was bondsman for Mysterious George's son George and wife Nancy Byrnes' marriage. Also, Alfred's wife Naomi was sister to the wives of mysterious George's sons Henry and Jacob. If that's not enough tangling, while researching that "second" Yancy Loy (b. 1828/30 NC) in Clinton Co., MO after 1860 (and Caldwell Co., MO 1850), I found the land record of Alfred Loy (son of Martin's son George's son Henry) in Caldwell Co. 1837 and the 1847 estate record of a deceased John Loy in Clinton Co., whose will was exec. by William Sharp. I checked the 1850 census and the Clinton Co., MO marriages and found this William had apparent second wife Nancy Ann, so perhaps this was Sally's husband and she died in MO before 1842? The 1850 census Clinton Co., MO William Sharp was age 33, born NC (= b. 1817) md. (#2) 3 July 1842 (Clinton Co., MO) Nancy Ann Roberts (= b. 1829 or 1821?) age 21 (or 28? hard to read) born NC with son Joel Sharp 12, Eli 9, Anderson (?) 6 and William 5. For Joel to have been born ca. 1838, and Eli to be born ca. 1841, this would be the right age for children by Sally. Tonight I was looking through the 1860 census of Union Co., TN for the umpteenth time, reviewing mysterious George Loy's son Jacob's son Jacob's household in 6th District. In 8th district were descendants of Martin's son George Loy. In 7th district was Henry Loy, son of mysterious George. This time I noticed that next household to Jacob was a Jacob and Sall*e*y Sharp, with Nancy Mann, age 65, in their household. Nancy Mann's son Paschal Mann was son-in-law to above Henry Loy. Nancy Mann was a Holt before marriage. Mysterious George Loy's mother was Mary Holt before she married John Loy. And Michael Holt was the witness of the marriage of William Sharp and Sally Loy of Orange Co., NC. And I found quite a few Holts in Clinton Co., MO. By the way, I did a checkup on the Reuben Ingle that was bondsman to Sally Loy and William Sharp. I found an Guilford Co., NC marriage of a Reuben Ingle to a Milley Low. It could really be "Low," but I couldn't help but notice it's only one letter off from being Loy. Delores