David, you helped solve a "mystery" for me as far as Arthur goes. Your William Arthur, of course, apparently never left NC. I had him listed twice in my genealogy records--once as William A. (which he was in the 1880 census age = b. 1872) and once as "Arthur" (which he was in the 1900 census, but age = b. 1875). The Huffman is interesting, as that surname has come into the Alamance Co., NC Loys many times. I'll explain how William Arthur descends from Martin and Catherine (Foust) Loy, but hang on...it gets confusing with so many George Loys. In the first place, there was Martin's son George who married Catherine Tillman. This George was grandfather to the Elizabeth Loy that married David Loy. Then this George had a son, George Loy, Jr. who moved to AL. This George, Jr. was a boy during the time his cousin, George, son of John and Mary (Holt) Loy, appears on NC land and census records. To make matters more confusing, John's son George was called "George Loy, Jr." in those records. In those days, to distinguish one with the same name as an older relative with that name, the suffix "Jr." was added to his name, whether he was a son or a nephew of the "Sr." For clarification, I'll call your George Loy, Jr. (son of John and Mary Holt Loy) "mysterious George." This is what his other descendants and I call him, as he has a bunch of children in the pre-1850 Orange Co., NC census, but only a few have I been able to determine by name. Mysterious George md. #1 Mary ____. Some of their descendants from their son Jacob (md. Polly Driskell) theorize she may have been a Tillman before marriage, as the name Tillman has been a traditional middle name in their male line. She is listed as Maria in the Stoner's church records, [the records being in German, all the names were "Germanized"] along with mysterious George's brother John Loy, Jr. (yes, a real Jr., son of John Loy!) and his wife Philopena. Mary/Maria apparently died by 1812, when George married Nancy Ferguson. By 1830 census mysterious George went to Anderson Co., TN, where he is in the listed there. His cousins had also gone to TN about two decades prior. In the book "Know Your Relatives," George was said to have left NC for TN, then returned. This seems to correspond with what I've found in census/land records. By 1840, he is back in Orange Co., NC. The George Loy in the census could either be he (as head of household) or, my recent thought, his son George Loy, Jr. (After Martin's son George Loy died, then mysterious George became just George Loy in records and HIS son became known as "George Loy, Jr." I told you it was confusing!)... Anyway, mysterious George Loy's son George Loy, Jr. was in the 1850 Alamance Co., NC census (once part of Orange Co., NC) with wife Nancy Byrns (md. 29 December 1825 (Orange [now Alamance] Co., NC) [bondsman: Alfred Byrns]). One note, this Alfred Byrns/Burns/Burnes was married to Naomi Driskell. Naomi's sister Polly married Jacob Loy (son of mysterious George) and sister Jane Driskell md. Henry Loy (son of mysterious George). One of George and Nancy (Byrns) Loy's sons was Joseph Loy (b. ca. 1836 NC‹died between 1873­1876 NC) who married Letitia ("Tishey") _____ (April 1854 NC‹died after 1900). In the 1880 Alamance Co., NC census widow Letitia is listed with children Franklin ("Frank") Loy (1868 Alamance Co., NC) and William A. Loy (1872 Alamance Co., NC) and Joseph P. Loy (1873 Alamance Co., NC) (who md. by 1907 Augusta F. (_____) Apple (May 1872 NC), widow of John W. Apple). In 1900 census Letitia was remarried ca. 1876 to Sidney Derringer (born July 1852). They were in Elon College, Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC. Letitia had 9 children, 9 living that year. This seems to indicate besides her 5 Derringer children, there were 4 Loy children living. If so, I haven't found the other two Loy children. >From that marriage were children: Adela Derringer (1876), Ida M[elissa?] ("Lissie") Derringer (April 1877) who was a widow by 1900, Lindley Derringer (m) (December 1882), Eddie Derringer (April 1887), and Dover Derringer (m) (April 1892). Next household to the Derringers in 1900 is Arthur Loy (July 1875 Alamance Co., NC) md. (#1) 1893 Bessie _____ (March 1877 NC‹died between 1901­1905) md. (#2) 1905 Alice _____ (1875 NC). Bessie had 2 children, 2 living that year. Res. 1910 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC. Alice had 2 children, 2 living that year. Res. 1920 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC. Arthur's children by first wife Bessie: 1) Andrew Loy (September 1895 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC) 2) Bertha B. Loy (13 July 1898 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC‹26 April 1977 Alamance Co., NC) [who md. by 1915 Charles E. Kernodle (ca. 1880 NC‹died before 1977) and 3) Lacy Loy (m) (23 June 1901 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC‹3 April 1974 [at home] Burlington, Alamance Co., NC). By wife Alice he had: 1) Alice Beatrice Loy (20 April 1906 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co.,NC‹21 April 1983 Burlington, Alamance Co., NC) 2) Arline Loy (m) or Arlene Loy (f) (1908 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC) [gender depends on 1910 or 1920 census!] 3) Boyd L. Loy (m) (1913 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC) and 4) Eugene Loy (1915 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC) FYI, the William A. who was son of David and Elizabeth (Loy) Loy would have been a double cousin to your William A. Loy. David was nephew to your mysterious George Loy, so that would make your William A. and his son William A. 2nd cousins once removed--David's son William A. would have been 2nd cousin to Joseph Loy. On Elizabeth's side, Elizabeth's father Jacob was first cousin to mysterious George, making her son William A. second cousin to mysterious George's son George Jr., 2nd once removed to Joseph, and 2nd 3x removed to William Arthur. Last week I was joking to some visiting cousins who descend from George Loy, Jr., son of John and Mary (Holt) Loy, that all the "extra" Loys I can't place from 1800s NC I just stick with whom we call "mysterious George" or "George Loy, Jr." In later research, most of my theories have proven correct. But this case, your line truly is of George Jr. Oh, another FYI, my grandmother's Loys come from Martin and Catherine Loy's third son, Henry Loy. I also live in CA--near Palm Springs. Delores The Complete Loy History Website http://loyhistory.cjb.net on 10/14/01 11:24 AM, David R. Dowell at Dave@DDowell.com wrote: > I am trying to trace the parentage of William A. LOY who married Bessie > I. HUFFMAN shortly before 1900. They had a > daughter Bertha who was born July 13, 1898 in Alamance County, NC. > William's middle name is thought to be Arthur. > This William has been tied (perhaps erronously) to William A. LOY the > son of David and Elizabeth (LOY) LOY who was > born October 22, 1842 in OH. The middle name of this person has been > reported to be Andrew. He ("age 16") was living with > his widowed mother Elizabeth in the 1860 cenus for Tarkio, Parker Twp., > Page Co., IA. He was also probably in the same > location in the 1870 census but I have not yet confirmed this. His > mother is reported to have moved on from Iowa to Kansas. > Although it is possible that this William A. LOY returned to the home of > his ancestors in Alamance Co. and settled there this > would have been highly unusual. Can anyone shed any light on whether > this is one or two separate William A. LOYs? > > Dave Dowell in Morro Bay, CA > Researching: Adams, Armfield, Barnard, Bottum, Breske, Brown, Burritt, > Carlton, Cashatt, Christie, Clough, Currier, Dow, Dowell, Dungan, > Foot(e), Grove, Hoar, Kernodle, Lakey, Lawrence, Loy, Mclaren, Martin, > Maynard, Messenger, Moon, Moore, Paepke, Pattee, Perry, Pierce, Pyle, > Ratliff, Shover, Smithey, Tydings, Weaver & Wing. > http://library.cuesta.org/ddowell.htm > http://www.DDowell.com > > > > > ==== LOY Mailing List ==== > *** Roxanne Munns, ListHostess *** > To subscribe to Digest Mode, please UNSUBSCRIBE from LOY-L and > send "Subscribe" to LOY-D-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library >

After re-reading my post, I noticed I skipped Elizabeth's generation--this is how it should read: > FYI, the William A. who was son of David and Elizabeth (Loy) Loy would have > been a double cousin to your William A. Loy. David was nephew to your > mysterious George Loy, so that would make your William A. and his son > William A. 2nd cousins once removed--David's son William A. would have been > 2nd cousin to Joseph Loy. On Elizabeth's side, Elizabeth's father Jacob > was first cousin to mysterious George, making Elizabeth second > cousin to mysterious George's son George Jr., and her son William A. 3rd cousin to Joseph and 3rd cousin 1x removed to William Arthur. Also, I should have written I'm missing only ONE of Letitia and Joseph's children, if she had 4 children by him. It's all the George Loys that make me lose concentration in writing! ;-)

just for your info. i am related to Lacy loy of the Alamance county, Elon college (now just called Elon, town changed name in July of this year) I may have some info. that may be helpful. Travis Loy ----- Original Message ----- From: Delores Rochelle Walls <Loy_Genealogy@att.net> To: <LOY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [LOY] William A. Loy & Bessie I. Huffman, Alamance, NC > David, you helped solve a "mystery" for me as far as Arthur goes. Your > William Arthur, of course, apparently never left NC. I had him listed twice > in my genealogy records--once as William A. (which he was in the 1880 census > age = b. 1872) and once as "Arthur" (which he was in the 1900 census, but > age = b. 1875). The Huffman is interesting, as that surname has come into > the Alamance Co., NC Loys many times. > > I'll explain how William Arthur descends from Martin and Catherine (Foust) > Loy, but hang on...it gets confusing with so many George Loys. In the first > place, there was Martin's son George who married Catherine Tillman. This > George was grandfather to the Elizabeth Loy that married David Loy. Then > this George had a son, George Loy, Jr. who moved to AL. This George, Jr. > was a boy during the time his cousin, George, son of John and Mary (Holt) > Loy, appears on NC land and census records. To make matters more confusing, > John's son George was called "George Loy, Jr." in those records. In those > days, to distinguish one with the same name as an older relative with that > name, the suffix "Jr." was added to his name, whether he was a son or a > nephew of the "Sr." For clarification, I'll call your George Loy, Jr. (son > of John and Mary Holt Loy) "mysterious George." This is what his other > descendants and I call him, as he has a bunch of children in the pre-1850 > Orange Co., NC census, but only a few have I been able to determine by name. > > Mysterious George md. #1 Mary ____. Some of their descendants from their > son Jacob (md. Polly Driskell) theorize she may have been a Tillman before > marriage, as the name Tillman has been a traditional middle name in their > male line. She is listed as Maria in the Stoner's church records, [the > records being in German, all the names were "Germanized"] along with > mysterious George's brother John Loy, Jr. (yes, a real Jr., son of John > Loy!) and his wife Philopena. Mary/Maria apparently died by 1812, when > George married Nancy Ferguson. By 1830 census mysterious George went to > Anderson Co., TN, where he is in the listed there. His cousins had also > gone to TN about two decades prior. In the book "Know Your Relatives," > George was said to have left NC for TN, then returned. This seems to > correspond with what I've found in census/land records. By 1840, he is back > in Orange Co., NC. The George Loy in the census could either be he (as head > of household) or, my recent thought, his son George Loy, Jr. (After > Martin's son George Loy died, then mysterious George became just George Loy > in records and HIS son became known as "George Loy, Jr." I told you it was > confusing!)... > > Anyway, mysterious George Loy's son George Loy, Jr. was in the 1850 Alamance > Co., NC census (once part of Orange Co., NC) with wife Nancy Byrns (md. 29 > December 1825 (Orange [now Alamance] Co., NC) [bondsman: Alfred Byrns]). > One note, this Alfred Byrns/Burns/Burnes was married to Naomi Driskell. > Naomi's sister Polly married Jacob Loy (son of mysterious George) and sister > Jane Driskell md. Henry Loy (son of mysterious George). > > One of George and Nancy (Byrns) Loy's sons was Joseph Loy (b. ca. 1836 > NC > 1854 NC > is listed with children Franklin ("Frank") Loy (1868 Alamance Co., NC) and > William A. Loy (1872 Alamance Co., NC) and Joseph P. Loy (1873 Alamance Co., > NC) (who md. by 1907 Augusta F. (_____) Apple (May 1872 NC), widow of John > W. Apple). > > > In 1900 census Letitia was remarried ca. 1876 to Sidney Derringer (born July > 1852). They were in Elon College, Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC. > Letitia had 9 children, 9 living that year. This seems to indicate besides > her 5 Derringer children, there were 4 Loy children living. If so, I > haven't found the other two Loy children. > > From that marriage were children: Adela Derringer (1876), Ida M[elissa?] > ("Lissie") Derringer (April 1877) who was a widow by 1900, Lindley Derringer > (m) (December 1882), Eddie Derringer (April 1887), and Dover Derringer (m) > (April 1892). > > Next household to the Derringers in 1900 is Arthur Loy (July 1875 Alamance > Co., NC) md. (#1) 1893 Bessie _____ (March 1877 NC > md. (#2) 1905 Alice _____ (1875 NC). Bessie had 2 children, 2 living that > year. Res. 1910 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC. Alice had 2 children, > 2 living that year. Res. 1920 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC. > > Arthur's children by first wife Bessie: > 1) Andrew Loy (September 1895 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC) 2) Bertha > B. Loy (13 July 1898 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC<26 April 1977 > Alamance Co., NC) [who md. by 1915 Charles E. Kernodle (ca. 1880 NC > before 1977) and 3) Lacy Loy (m) (23 June 1901 Boon Station Twp., Alamance > Co., NC<3 April 1974 [at home] Burlington, Alamance Co., NC). > > By wife Alice he had: 1) Alice Beatrice Loy (20 April 1906 Boon Station > Twp., Alamance Co.,NC<21 April 1983 Burlington, Alamance Co., NC) 2) Arline > Loy (m) or Arlene Loy (f) (1908 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC) [gender > depends on 1910 or 1920 census!] 3) Boyd L. Loy (m) (1913 Boon Station Twp., > Alamance Co., NC) and 4) Eugene Loy (1915 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., > NC) > > FYI, the William A. who was son of David and Elizabeth (Loy) Loy would have > been a double cousin to your William A. Loy. David was nephew to your > mysterious George Loy, so that would make your William A. and his son > William A. 2nd cousins once removed--David's son William A. would have been > 2nd cousin to Joseph Loy. On Elizabeth's side, Elizabeth's father Jacob > was first cousin to mysterious George, making her son William A. second > cousin to mysterious George's son George Jr., 2nd once removed to Joseph, > and 2nd 3x removed to William Arthur. > > Last week I was joking to some visiting cousins who descend from George Loy, > Jr., son of John and Mary (Holt) Loy, that all the "extra" Loys I can't > place from 1800s NC I just stick with whom we call "mysterious George" or > "George Loy, Jr." In later research, most of my theories have proven > correct. But this case, your line truly is of George Jr. > > Oh, another FYI, my grandmother's Loys come from Martin and Catherine Loy's > third son, Henry Loy. I also live in CA--near Palm Springs. > > Delores > > The Complete Loy History Website > > http://loyhistory.cjb.net > > > on 10/14/01 11:24 AM, David R. Dowell at Dave@DDowell.com wrote: > > > I am trying to trace the parentage of William A. LOY who married Bessie > > I. HUFFMAN shortly before 1900. They had a > > daughter Bertha who was born July 13, 1898 in Alamance County, NC. > > William's middle name is thought to be Arthur. > > This William has been tied (perhaps erronously) to William A. LOY the > > son of David and Elizabeth (LOY) LOY who was > > born October 22, 1842 in OH. The middle name of this person has been > > reported to be Andrew. He ("age 16") was living with > > his widowed mother Elizabeth in the 1860 cenus for Tarkio, Parker Twp., > > Page Co., IA. He was also probably in the same > > location in the 1870 census but I have not yet confirmed this. His > > mother is reported to have moved on from Iowa to Kansas. > > Although it is possible that this William A. LOY returned to the home of > > his ancestors in Alamance Co. and settled there this > > would have been highly unusual. Can anyone shed any light on whether > > this is one or two separate William A. LOYs? > > > > Dave Dowell in Morro Bay, CA > > Researching: Adams, Armfield, Barnard, Bottum, Breske, Brown, Burritt, > > Carlton, Cashatt, Christie, Clough, Currier, Dow, Dowell, Dungan, > > Foot(e), Grove, Hoar, Kernodle, Lakey, Lawrence, Loy, Mclaren, Martin, > > Maynard, Messenger, Moon, Moore, Paepke, Pattee, Perry, Pierce, Pyle, > > Ratliff, Shover, Smithey, Tydings, Weaver & Wing. > > http://library.cuesta.org/ddowell.htm > > http://www.DDowell.com > > > > > > > > > > ==== LOY Mailing List ==== > > *** Roxanne Munns, ListHostess *** > > To subscribe to Digest Mode, please UNSUBSCRIBE from LOY-L and > > send "Subscribe" to LOY-D-request@rootsweb.com > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > > > > > ==== LOY Mailing List ==== > *** Roxanne Munns, ListHostess *** > To subscribe to Digest Mode, please UNSUBSCRIBE from LOY-L and > send "Subscribe" to LOY-D-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > >

Travis, I just learned of Travis' existance this weekend. I would appreciate anything you are willing to share on him and his descendants---ancestors too. I don't know much about the immediate Huffman and Loy ancestors but have quite a bit about both lines further back. I got interested in these lines in putting some information together for Millie Lea (Kernodle) Smithey on the occasion of her 80th birthday earlier this year. She is a granddaughter of William A. Loy and Bessie I. Huffman and a niece of your Lacy. My email is Dave@DDowell.com -----Original Message----- From: MTLOY [mailto:MTLOY@email.msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 7:50 AM To: LOY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LOY] William A. Loy & Bessie I. Huffman, Alamance, NC just for your info. i am related to Lacy loy of the Alamance county, Elon college (now just called Elon, town changed name in July of this year) I may have some info. that may be helpful. Travis Loy ----- Original Message ----- From: Delores Rochelle Walls <Loy_Genealogy@att.net> To: <LOY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [LOY] William A. Loy & Bessie I. Huffman, Alamance, NC > David, you helped solve a "mystery" for me as far as Arthur goes. > Your William Arthur, of course, apparently never left NC. I had him > listed twice > in my genealogy records--once as William A. (which he was in the 1880 census > age = b. 1872) and once as "Arthur" (which he was in the 1900 census, > but age = b. 1875). The Huffman is interesting, as that surname has > come into the Alamance Co., NC Loys many times. > > I'll explain how William Arthur descends from Martin and Catherine > (Foust) Loy, but hang on...it gets confusing with so many George Loys. > In the first > place, there was Martin's son George who married Catherine Tillman. > This George was grandfather to the Elizabeth Loy that married David > Loy. Then this George had a son, George Loy, Jr. who moved to AL. > This George, Jr. was a boy during the time his cousin, George, son of > John and Mary (Holt) Loy, appears on NC land and census records. To > make matters more confusing, > John's son George was called "George Loy, Jr." in those records. In > those days, to distinguish one with the same name as an older relative > with that name, the suffix "Jr." was added to his name, whether he was > a son or a nephew of the "Sr." For clarification, I'll call your > George Loy, Jr. (son > of John and Mary Holt Loy) "mysterious George." This is what his > other descendants and I call him, as he has a bunch of children in the > pre-1850 Orange Co., NC census, but only a few have I been able to > determine by name. > > Mysterious George md. #1 Mary ____. Some of their descendants from > their son Jacob (md. Polly Driskell) theorize she may have been a > Tillman before marriage, as the name Tillman has been a traditional > middle name in their male line. She is listed as Maria in the Stoner's > church records, [the records being in German, all the names were > "Germanized"] along with mysterious George's brother John Loy, Jr. > (yes, a real Jr., son of John > Loy!) and his wife Philopena. Mary/Maria apparently died by 1812, when > George married Nancy Ferguson. By 1830 census mysterious George went to > Anderson Co., TN, where he is in the listed there. His cousins had also > gone to TN about two decades prior. In the book "Know Your Relatives," > George was said to have left NC for TN, then returned. This seems to > correspond with what I've found in census/land records. By 1840, he is back > in Orange Co., NC. The George Loy in the census could either be he > (as head > of household) or, my recent thought, his son George Loy, Jr. (After > Martin's son George Loy died, then mysterious George became just > George Loy > in records and HIS son became known as "George Loy, Jr." I told you > it was > confusing!)... > > Anyway, mysterious George Loy's son George Loy, Jr. was in the 1850 Alamance > Co., NC census (once part of Orange Co., NC) with wife Nancy Byrns > (md. 29 > December 1825 (Orange [now Alamance] Co., NC) [bondsman: Alfred > Byrns]). One note, this Alfred Byrns/Burns/Burnes was married to Naomi > Driskell. Naomi's sister Polly married Jacob Loy (son of mysterious > George) and sister > Jane Driskell md. Henry Loy (son of mysterious George). > > One of George and Nancy (Byrns) Loy's sons was Joseph Loy (b. ca. 1836 > NC > 1854 NC > is listed with children Franklin ("Frank") Loy (1868 Alamance Co., NC) and > William A. Loy (1872 Alamance Co., NC) and Joseph P. Loy (1873 > Alamance Co., > NC) (who md. by 1907 Augusta F. (_____) Apple (May 1872 NC), widow of > John W. Apple). > > > In 1900 census Letitia was remarried ca. 1876 to Sidney Derringer > (born July > 1852). They were in Elon College, Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC. > Letitia had 9 children, 9 living that year. This seems to indicate besides > her 5 Derringer children, there were 4 Loy children living. If so, I > haven't found the other two Loy children. > > From that marriage were children: Adela Derringer (1876), Ida > M[elissa?] > ("Lissie") Derringer (April 1877) who was a widow by 1900, Lindley Derringer > (m) (December 1882), Eddie Derringer (April 1887), and Dover Derringer > (m) (April 1892). > > Next household to the Derringers in 1900 is Arthur Loy (July 1875 > Alamance Co., NC) md. (#1) 1893 Bessie _____ (March 1877 NC > md. (#2) > 1905 Alice _____ (1875 NC). Bessie had 2 children, 2 living that > year. Res. 1910 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC. Alice had 2 children, > 2 living that year. Res. 1920 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC. > > Arthur's children by first wife Bessie: > 1) Andrew Loy (September 1895 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC) 2) Bertha > B. Loy (13 July 1898 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC<26 April 1977 > Alamance Co., NC) [who md. by 1915 Charles E. Kernodle (ca. 1880 NC > before 1977) and 3) Lacy Loy (m) (23 June 1901 Boon Station Twp., Alamance > Co., NC<3 April 1974 [at home] Burlington, Alamance Co., NC). > > By wife Alice he had: 1) Alice Beatrice Loy (20 April 1906 Boon > Station Twp., Alamance Co.,NC<21 April 1983 Burlington, Alamance Co., > NC) 2) Arline > Loy (m) or Arlene Loy (f) (1908 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC) [gender > depends on 1910 or 1920 census!] 3) Boyd L. Loy (m) (1913 Boon Station Twp., > Alamance Co., NC) and 4) Eugene Loy (1915 Boon Station Twp., Alamance > Co., > NC) > > FYI, the William A. who was son of David and Elizabeth (Loy) Loy would have > been a double cousin to your William A. Loy. David was nephew to your > mysterious George Loy, so that would make your William A. and his son > William A. 2nd cousins once removed--David's son William A. would have been > 2nd cousin to Joseph Loy. On Elizabeth's side, Elizabeth's father Jacob > was first cousin to mysterious George, making her son William A. > second cousin to mysterious George's son George Jr., 2nd once removed > to Joseph, and 2nd 3x removed to William Arthur. > > Last week I was joking to some visiting cousins who descend from > George Loy, > Jr., son of John and Mary (Holt) Loy, that all the "extra" Loys I > can't place from 1800s NC I just stick with whom we call "mysterious > George" or "George Loy, Jr." In later research, most of my theories > have proven correct. But this case, your line truly is of George Jr. > > Oh, another FYI, my grandmother's Loys come from Martin and Catherine Loy's > third son, Henry Loy. I also live in CA--near Palm Springs. > > Delores > > The Complete Loy History Website > > http://loyhistory.cjb.net > > > on 10/14/01 11:24 AM, David R. Dowell at Dave@DDowell.com wrote: > > > I am trying to trace the parentage of William A. LOY who married > > Bessie I. HUFFMAN shortly before 1900. They had a daughter Bertha > > who was born July 13, 1898 in Alamance County, NC. William's middle > > name is thought to be Arthur. This William has been tied (perhaps > > erronously) to William A. LOY the son of David and Elizabeth (LOY) > > LOY who was born October 22, 1842 in OH. The middle name of this > > person has been reported to be Andrew. He ("age 16") was living with > > his widowed mother Elizabeth in the 1860 cenus for Tarkio, Parker Twp., > > Page Co., IA. He was also probably in the same > > location in the 1870 census but I have not yet confirmed this. His > > mother is reported to have moved on from Iowa to Kansas. > > Although it is possible that this William A. LOY returned to the home of > > his ancestors in Alamance Co. and settled there this > > would have been highly unusual. Can anyone shed any light on whether > > this is one or two separate William A. LOYs? > > > > Dave Dowell in Morro Bay, CA > > Researching: Adams, Armfield, Barnard, Bottum, Breske, Brown, > > Burritt, Carlton, Cashatt, Christie, Clough, Currier, Dow, Dowell, > > Dungan, Foot(e), Grove, Hoar, Kernodle, Lakey, Lawrence, Loy, > > Mclaren, Martin, Maynard, Messenger, Moon, Moore, Paepke, Pattee, > > Perry, Pierce, Pyle, Ratliff, Shover, Smithey, Tydings, Weaver & > > Wing. http://library.cuesta.org/ddowell.htm > > http://www.DDowell.com > > > > > > > > > > ==== LOY Mailing List ==== > > *** Roxanne Munns, ListHostess *** > > To subscribe to Digest Mode, please UNSUBSCRIBE from LOY-L and send > > "Subscribe" to LOY-D-request@rootsweb.com > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > > > > > ==== LOY Mailing List ==== > *** Roxanne Munns, ListHostess *** > To subscribe to Digest Mode, please UNSUBSCRIBE from LOY-L and send > "Subscribe" to LOY-D-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > > ==== LOY Mailing List ==== *** Roxanne Munns, ListHostess *** Please check out the LOY home page at: http://loyhistory.cjb.net ============================== Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2