This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Eex.2ACIB/333.1.2 Message Board Post: My ggGrandmother was Catherine Moser m. John Harless, dau of Eliz Loy, g-dau George Loy, John & Eva Dryden, Gideon and Christopher Jr & Sr. b. 1585 Immigrant ancestor. In the Magna Charta Dames there is a Tillman/Tilghman that is eligable to go to King Charlemagne. Do you know if he was a brother to Christopher. Would like more info on John "fisher" Loy. I visited Baden last year. It was not far from where my Harless family migrated from in 1738.