I wholeheartedly agree with Kim and Linda! And manners are much more inportant than having perfect grammar--I say this as someone who is studying to be an English teacher. I have several relatives who have perfect grammar and don't care a thing about their Loy history. Then there are others who don't spell well but are one of the most interested in family history that I love emailing. For the record, I think we've all broken grammar rules at least once in these mailings, whether it be adding a possessive apostrophe to the plural Loys, or transposing letters in a word as I have caught myself doing. Sew letz knot git hung up in beeing perfukt and letz hav fun in geneelogee. Get my meaning? Delores (BTW, Linda, I didn't know you are deaf. I'm taking ASL classes at college and wish you lived near me and help me practice. Too bad we can't sign online. ;-)