In my research in USA almost any place you find the Hans yurigh ley / loy decents there is also hans martain loy decents some where close by , and some of the same surnames are married ito both familys , every one have a great day Smiles light the day Marge Massey http://community.webtv.net/margemassey/Familytreeof http://community.webtv.net/margemassey/doc