Let me recommend learning to use the site www.familysearch.com for answering, or at least addressing, questions like yours: "I don't suppose you have the Jacob Loy ancestors." Of course, the accuracy of what you find there varies, but it's a start. Here's what that site thinks your line is: Jacob LOY (AFN: 1V10-MX0) Pedigree Sex: M Family ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Event(s): Birth: 12 Jun 1782 , Frederick, Va Death: 16 Apr 1874 , Franklin, Oh Burial: Clinton Chapel ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Parents: Father: Daniel LOY (AFN: 1HG6-THQ) Family Mother: Christiana MILLSLAGLE (AFN: 1V10-QGL) Then: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Daniel LOY (AFN: 1HG6-THQ) Pedigree Sex: M Family ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Event(s): Birth: 1740 New Goshenhoppen, Berks Co., Penn Death: 1830/1840 , Hampshire, Va Burial: Mt. Zion Ceme ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Parents: Father: John LOY (AFN: 2RPG-CM) Family Mother: Maria Elizabeth KUMPF (AFN: 2RPG-DS) Then: John LOY (AFN: 2RPG-CM) Pedigree Sex: M Family ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Event(s): Birth: 1735 Of New Goshenhop, Berks Co., Penn Death: W/P 04 1798 Dec , Frederick Co., Va Burial: , Frederick Co., Va ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Parents: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Marriage(s): Spouse: Maria Elizabeth KUMPF (AFN: 2RPG-DS) Family Marriage: Abt 1755 My Loy line is entirely different, it seems. Mark Bramlette great-grandson of Margaret S. (Loy) Tucker