just for your info. i am related to Lacy loy of the Alamance county, Elon college (now just called Elon, town changed name in July of this year) I may have some info. that may be helpful. Travis Loy ----- Original Message ----- From: Delores Rochelle Walls <Loy_Genealogy@att.net> To: <LOY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [LOY] William A. Loy & Bessie I. Huffman, Alamance, NC > David, you helped solve a "mystery" for me as far as Arthur goes. Your > William Arthur, of course, apparently never left NC. I had him listed twice > in my genealogy records--once as William A. (which he was in the 1880 census > age = b. 1872) and once as "Arthur" (which he was in the 1900 census, but > age = b. 1875). The Huffman is interesting, as that surname has come into > the Alamance Co., NC Loys many times. > > I'll explain how William Arthur descends from Martin and Catherine (Foust) > Loy, but hang on...it gets confusing with so many George Loys. In the first > place, there was Martin's son George who married Catherine Tillman. This > George was grandfather to the Elizabeth Loy that married David Loy. Then > this George had a son, George Loy, Jr. who moved to AL. This George, Jr. > was a boy during the time his cousin, George, son of John and Mary (Holt) > Loy, appears on NC land and census records. To make matters more confusing, > John's son George was called "George Loy, Jr." in those records. In those > days, to distinguish one with the same name as an older relative with that > name, the suffix "Jr." was added to his name, whether he was a son or a > nephew of the "Sr." For clarification, I'll call your George Loy, Jr. (son > of John and Mary Holt Loy) "mysterious George." This is what his other > descendants and I call him, as he has a bunch of children in the pre-1850 > Orange Co., NC census, but only a few have I been able to determine by name. > > Mysterious George md. #1 Mary ____. Some of their descendants from their > son Jacob (md. Polly Driskell) theorize she may have been a Tillman before > marriage, as the name Tillman has been a traditional middle name in their > male line. She is listed as Maria in the Stoner's church records, [the > records being in German, all the names were "Germanized"] along with > mysterious George's brother John Loy, Jr. (yes, a real Jr., son of John > Loy!) and his wife Philopena. Mary/Maria apparently died by 1812, when > George married Nancy Ferguson. By 1830 census mysterious George went to > Anderson Co., TN, where he is in the listed there. His cousins had also > gone to TN about two decades prior. In the book "Know Your Relatives," > George was said to have left NC for TN, then returned. This seems to > correspond with what I've found in census/land records. By 1840, he is back > in Orange Co., NC. The George Loy in the census could either be he (as head > of household) or, my recent thought, his son George Loy, Jr. (After > Martin's son George Loy died, then mysterious George became just George Loy > in records and HIS son became known as "George Loy, Jr." I told you it was > confusing!)... > > Anyway, mysterious George Loy's son George Loy, Jr. was in the 1850 Alamance > Co., NC census (once part of Orange Co., NC) with wife Nancy Byrns (md. 29 > December 1825 (Orange [now Alamance] Co., NC) [bondsman: Alfred Byrns]). > One note, this Alfred Byrns/Burns/Burnes was married to Naomi Driskell. > Naomi's sister Polly married Jacob Loy (son of mysterious George) and sister > Jane Driskell md. Henry Loy (son of mysterious George). > > One of George and Nancy (Byrns) Loy's sons was Joseph Loy (b. ca. 1836 > NC > 1854 NC > is listed with children Franklin ("Frank") Loy (1868 Alamance Co., NC) and > William A. Loy (1872 Alamance Co., NC) and Joseph P. Loy (1873 Alamance Co., > NC) (who md. by 1907 Augusta F. (_____) Apple (May 1872 NC), widow of John > W. Apple). > > > In 1900 census Letitia was remarried ca. 1876 to Sidney Derringer (born July > 1852). They were in Elon College, Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC. > Letitia had 9 children, 9 living that year. This seems to indicate besides > her 5 Derringer children, there were 4 Loy children living. If so, I > haven't found the other two Loy children. > > From that marriage were children: Adela Derringer (1876), Ida M[elissa?] > ("Lissie") Derringer (April 1877) who was a widow by 1900, Lindley Derringer > (m) (December 1882), Eddie Derringer (April 1887), and Dover Derringer (m) > (April 1892). > > Next household to the Derringers in 1900 is Arthur Loy (July 1875 Alamance > Co., NC) md. (#1) 1893 Bessie _____ (March 1877 NC > md. (#2) 1905 Alice _____ (1875 NC). Bessie had 2 children, 2 living that > year. Res. 1910 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC. Alice had 2 children, > 2 living that year. Res. 1920 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC. > > Arthur's children by first wife Bessie: > 1) Andrew Loy (September 1895 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC) 2) Bertha > B. Loy (13 July 1898 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC<26 April 1977 > Alamance Co., NC) [who md. by 1915 Charles E. Kernodle (ca. 1880 NC > before 1977) and 3) Lacy Loy (m) (23 June 1901 Boon Station Twp., Alamance > Co., NC<3 April 1974 [at home] Burlington, Alamance Co., NC). > > By wife Alice he had: 1) Alice Beatrice Loy (20 April 1906 Boon Station > Twp., Alamance Co.,NC<21 April 1983 Burlington, Alamance Co., NC) 2) Arline > Loy (m) or Arlene Loy (f) (1908 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC) [gender > depends on 1910 or 1920 census!] 3) Boyd L. Loy (m) (1913 Boon Station Twp., > Alamance Co., NC) and 4) Eugene Loy (1915 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., > NC) > > FYI, the William A. who was son of David and Elizabeth (Loy) Loy would have > been a double cousin to your William A. Loy. David was nephew to your > mysterious George Loy, so that would make your William A. and his son > William A. 2nd cousins once removed--David's son William A. would have been > 2nd cousin to Joseph Loy. On Elizabeth's side, Elizabeth's father Jacob > was first cousin to mysterious George, making her son William A. second > cousin to mysterious George's son George Jr., 2nd once removed to Joseph, > and 2nd 3x removed to William Arthur. > > Last week I was joking to some visiting cousins who descend from George Loy, > Jr., son of John and Mary (Holt) Loy, that all the "extra" Loys I can't > place from 1800s NC I just stick with whom we call "mysterious George" or > "George Loy, Jr." In later research, most of my theories have proven > correct. But this case, your line truly is of George Jr. > > Oh, another FYI, my grandmother's Loys come from Martin and Catherine Loy's > third son, Henry Loy. I also live in CA--near Palm Springs. > > Delores > > The Complete Loy History Website > > http://loyhistory.cjb.net > > > on 10/14/01 11:24 AM, David R. Dowell at Dave@DDowell.com wrote: > > > I am trying to trace the parentage of William A. LOY who married Bessie > > I. HUFFMAN shortly before 1900. They had a > > daughter Bertha who was born July 13, 1898 in Alamance County, NC. > > William's middle name is thought to be Arthur. > > This William has been tied (perhaps erronously) to William A. LOY the > > son of David and Elizabeth (LOY) LOY who was > > born October 22, 1842 in OH. The middle name of this person has been > > reported to be Andrew. He ("age 16") was living with > > his widowed mother Elizabeth in the 1860 cenus for Tarkio, Parker Twp., > > Page Co., IA. He was also probably in the same > > location in the 1870 census but I have not yet confirmed this. His > > mother is reported to have moved on from Iowa to Kansas. > > Although it is possible that this William A. LOY returned to the home of > > his ancestors in Alamance Co. and settled there this > > would have been highly unusual. Can anyone shed any light on whether > > this is one or two separate William A. LOYs? > > > > Dave Dowell in Morro Bay, CA > > Researching: Adams, Armfield, Barnard, Bottum, Breske, Brown, Burritt, > > Carlton, Cashatt, Christie, Clough, Currier, Dow, Dowell, Dungan, > > Foot(e), Grove, Hoar, Kernodle, Lakey, Lawrence, Loy, Mclaren, Martin, > > Maynard, Messenger, Moon, Moore, Paepke, Pattee, Perry, Pierce, Pyle, > > Ratliff, Shover, Smithey, Tydings, Weaver & Wing. > > http://library.cuesta.org/ddowell.htm > > http://www.DDowell.com > > > > > > > > > > ==== LOY Mailing List ==== > > *** Roxanne Munns, ListHostess *** > > To subscribe to Digest Mode, please UNSUBSCRIBE from LOY-L and > > send "Subscribe" to LOY-D-request@rootsweb.com > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > > > > > ==== LOY Mailing List ==== > *** Roxanne Munns, ListHostess *** > To subscribe to Digest Mode, please UNSUBSCRIBE from LOY-L and > send "Subscribe" to LOY-D-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > >

These messages about William Arthur Loy the last couple days reminded me that I should pick up my search for descendants of Hiram Loy (1812-1900) and Nancy Brown Denune (1819-1895). I am related through their son William Loy (1847-1916). ((Sorry, I don't think there are any mysterious George's in my line.)) Info I have so far for Hiram Loy's siblings are Mary Elizabeth Loy (1808-1976), Daniel Loy (1820-1888), Samuel Loy (1820-1901), plus James, Isaac, Barbara, Rachel, Nancy, and Abraham. I would appreciate information or will answer questions.

After re-reading my post, I noticed I skipped Elizabeth's generation--this is how it should read: > FYI, the William A. who was son of David and Elizabeth (Loy) Loy would have > been a double cousin to your William A. Loy. David was nephew to your > mysterious George Loy, so that would make your William A. and his son > William A. 2nd cousins once removed--David's son William A. would have been > 2nd cousin to Joseph Loy. On Elizabeth's side, Elizabeth's father Jacob > was first cousin to mysterious George, making Elizabeth second > cousin to mysterious George's son George Jr., and her son William A. 3rd cousin to Joseph and 3rd cousin 1x removed to William Arthur. Also, I should have written I'm missing only ONE of Letitia and Joseph's children, if she had 4 children by him. It's all the George Loys that make me lose concentration in writing! ;-)

David, you helped solve a "mystery" for me as far as Arthur goes. Your William Arthur, of course, apparently never left NC. I had him listed twice in my genealogy records--once as William A. (which he was in the 1880 census age = b. 1872) and once as "Arthur" (which he was in the 1900 census, but age = b. 1875). The Huffman is interesting, as that surname has come into the Alamance Co., NC Loys many times. I'll explain how William Arthur descends from Martin and Catherine (Foust) Loy, but hang on...it gets confusing with so many George Loys. In the first place, there was Martin's son George who married Catherine Tillman. This George was grandfather to the Elizabeth Loy that married David Loy. Then this George had a son, George Loy, Jr. who moved to AL. This George, Jr. was a boy during the time his cousin, George, son of John and Mary (Holt) Loy, appears on NC land and census records. To make matters more confusing, John's son George was called "George Loy, Jr." in those records. In those days, to distinguish one with the same name as an older relative with that name, the suffix "Jr." was added to his name, whether he was a son or a nephew of the "Sr." For clarification, I'll call your George Loy, Jr. (son of John and Mary Holt Loy) "mysterious George." This is what his other descendants and I call him, as he has a bunch of children in the pre-1850 Orange Co., NC census, but only a few have I been able to determine by name. Mysterious George md. #1 Mary ____. Some of their descendants from their son Jacob (md. Polly Driskell) theorize she may have been a Tillman before marriage, as the name Tillman has been a traditional middle name in their male line. She is listed as Maria in the Stoner's church records, [the records being in German, all the names were "Germanized"] along with mysterious George's brother John Loy, Jr. (yes, a real Jr., son of John Loy!) and his wife Philopena. Mary/Maria apparently died by 1812, when George married Nancy Ferguson. By 1830 census mysterious George went to Anderson Co., TN, where he is in the listed there. His cousins had also gone to TN about two decades prior. In the book "Know Your Relatives," George was said to have left NC for TN, then returned. This seems to correspond with what I've found in census/land records. By 1840, he is back in Orange Co., NC. The George Loy in the census could either be he (as head of household) or, my recent thought, his son George Loy, Jr. (After Martin's son George Loy died, then mysterious George became just George Loy in records and HIS son became known as "George Loy, Jr." I told you it was confusing!)... Anyway, mysterious George Loy's son George Loy, Jr. was in the 1850 Alamance Co., NC census (once part of Orange Co., NC) with wife Nancy Byrns (md. 29 December 1825 (Orange [now Alamance] Co., NC) [bondsman: Alfred Byrns]). One note, this Alfred Byrns/Burns/Burnes was married to Naomi Driskell. Naomi's sister Polly married Jacob Loy (son of mysterious George) and sister Jane Driskell md. Henry Loy (son of mysterious George). One of George and Nancy (Byrns) Loy's sons was Joseph Loy (b. ca. 1836 NC‹died between 1873­1876 NC) who married Letitia ("Tishey") _____ (April 1854 NC‹died after 1900). In the 1880 Alamance Co., NC census widow Letitia is listed with children Franklin ("Frank") Loy (1868 Alamance Co., NC) and William A. Loy (1872 Alamance Co., NC) and Joseph P. Loy (1873 Alamance Co., NC) (who md. by 1907 Augusta F. (_____) Apple (May 1872 NC), widow of John W. Apple). In 1900 census Letitia was remarried ca. 1876 to Sidney Derringer (born July 1852). They were in Elon College, Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC. Letitia had 9 children, 9 living that year. This seems to indicate besides her 5 Derringer children, there were 4 Loy children living. If so, I haven't found the other two Loy children. >From that marriage were children: Adela Derringer (1876), Ida M[elissa?] ("Lissie") Derringer (April 1877) who was a widow by 1900, Lindley Derringer (m) (December 1882), Eddie Derringer (April 1887), and Dover Derringer (m) (April 1892). Next household to the Derringers in 1900 is Arthur Loy (July 1875 Alamance Co., NC) md. (#1) 1893 Bessie _____ (March 1877 NC‹died between 1901­1905) md. (#2) 1905 Alice _____ (1875 NC). Bessie had 2 children, 2 living that year. Res. 1910 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC. Alice had 2 children, 2 living that year. Res. 1920 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC. Arthur's children by first wife Bessie: 1) Andrew Loy (September 1895 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC) 2) Bertha B. Loy (13 July 1898 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC‹26 April 1977 Alamance Co., NC) [who md. by 1915 Charles E. Kernodle (ca. 1880 NC‹died before 1977) and 3) Lacy Loy (m) (23 June 1901 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC‹3 April 1974 [at home] Burlington, Alamance Co., NC). By wife Alice he had: 1) Alice Beatrice Loy (20 April 1906 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co.,NC‹21 April 1983 Burlington, Alamance Co., NC) 2) Arline Loy (m) or Arlene Loy (f) (1908 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC) [gender depends on 1910 or 1920 census!] 3) Boyd L. Loy (m) (1913 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC) and 4) Eugene Loy (1915 Boon Station Twp., Alamance Co., NC) FYI, the William A. who was son of David and Elizabeth (Loy) Loy would have been a double cousin to your William A. Loy. David was nephew to your mysterious George Loy, so that would make your William A. and his son William A. 2nd cousins once removed--David's son William A. would have been 2nd cousin to Joseph Loy. On Elizabeth's side, Elizabeth's father Jacob was first cousin to mysterious George, making her son William A. second cousin to mysterious George's son George Jr., 2nd once removed to Joseph, and 2nd 3x removed to William Arthur. Last week I was joking to some visiting cousins who descend from George Loy, Jr., son of John and Mary (Holt) Loy, that all the "extra" Loys I can't place from 1800s NC I just stick with whom we call "mysterious George" or "George Loy, Jr." In later research, most of my theories have proven correct. But this case, your line truly is of George Jr. Oh, another FYI, my grandmother's Loys come from Martin and Catherine Loy's third son, Henry Loy. I also live in CA--near Palm Springs. Delores The Complete Loy History Website http://loyhistory.cjb.net on 10/14/01 11:24 AM, David R. Dowell at Dave@DDowell.com wrote: > I am trying to trace the parentage of William A. LOY who married Bessie > I. HUFFMAN shortly before 1900. They had a > daughter Bertha who was born July 13, 1898 in Alamance County, NC. > William's middle name is thought to be Arthur. > This William has been tied (perhaps erronously) to William A. LOY the > son of David and Elizabeth (LOY) LOY who was > born October 22, 1842 in OH. The middle name of this person has been > reported to be Andrew. He ("age 16") was living with > his widowed mother Elizabeth in the 1860 cenus for Tarkio, Parker Twp., > Page Co., IA. He was also probably in the same > location in the 1870 census but I have not yet confirmed this. His > mother is reported to have moved on from Iowa to Kansas. > Although it is possible that this William A. LOY returned to the home of > his ancestors in Alamance Co. and settled there this > would have been highly unusual. Can anyone shed any light on whether > this is one or two separate William A. LOYs? > > Dave Dowell in Morro Bay, CA > Researching: Adams, Armfield, Barnard, Bottum, Breske, Brown, Burritt, > Carlton, Cashatt, Christie, Clough, Currier, Dow, Dowell, Dungan, > Foot(e), Grove, Hoar, Kernodle, Lakey, Lawrence, Loy, Mclaren, Martin, > Maynard, Messenger, Moon, Moore, Paepke, Pattee, Perry, Pierce, Pyle, > Ratliff, Shover, Smithey, Tydings, Weaver & Wing. > http://library.cuesta.org/ddowell.htm > http://www.DDowell.com > > > > > ==== LOY Mailing List ==== > *** Roxanne Munns, ListHostess *** > To subscribe to Digest Mode, please UNSUBSCRIBE from LOY-L and > send "Subscribe" to LOY-D-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library >

I am trying to trace the parentage of William A. LOY who married Bessie I. HUFFMAN shortly before 1900. They had a daughter Bertha who was born July 13, 1898 in Alamance County, NC. William's middle name is thought to be Arthur. This William has been tied (perhaps erronously) to William A. LOY the son of David and Elizabeth (LOY) LOY who was born October 22, 1842 in OH. The middle name of this person has been reported to be Andrew. He ("age 16") was living with his widowed mother Elizabeth in the 1860 cenus for Tarkio, Parker Twp., Page Co., IA. He was also probably in the same location in the 1870 census but I have not yet confirmed this. His mother is reported to have moved on from Iowa to Kansas. Although it is possible that this William A. LOY returned to the home of his ancestors in Alamance Co. and settled there this would have been highly unusual. Can anyone shed any light on whether this is one or two separate William A. LOYs? Dave Dowell in Morro Bay, CA Researching: Adams, Armfield, Barnard, Bottum, Breske, Brown, Burritt, Carlton, Cashatt, Christie, Clough, Currier, Dow, Dowell, Dungan, Foot(e), Grove, Hoar, Kernodle, Lakey, Lawrence, Loy, Mclaren, Martin, Maynard, Messenger, Moon, Moore, Paepke, Pattee, Perry, Pierce, Pyle, Ratliff, Shover, Smithey, Tydings, Weaver & Wing. http://library.cuesta.org/ddowell.htm http://www.DDowell.com

Thank you for the LOY information on the 1890 census. That family is mine, Thomas H. was my grandfather. I knew they were from Ohio and Indiana but was not sure how long they stayed there. So it is a big help for me. Barb, in Pollock Pines, CA > Message Board Post: > > Lagrange Co. In. has an 1890C but it is not indexed. I viewed this census page by page and came across the following Loy > family. They lived in the township of Eden. Henry Loy age 62, born Ohio, Wife Barbara, 59, born Ohio. Children Thomas H. > 21 born In. and Wibert H. 19 born In. Maybe this will help someone. > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Loy Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Eex.2ACIB/328 Message Board Post: Lagrange Co. In. has an 1890C but it is not indexed. I viewed this census page by page and came across the following Loy family. They lived in the township of Eden. Henry Loy age 62, born Ohio, Wife Barbara, 59, born Ohio. Children Thomas H. 21 born In. and Wibert H. 19 born In. Maybe this will help someone.

Hi Loy Listers I was at a funeral in Dayton several days ago. We ended up in a small town & cemetery I have never visited before. The town was Pyrmont on Sulpher Springs Rd in Montg. Co Ohio. This is in western Montg. Co near Preble Co I would guess. After services were over, I looked around a little. The cemetery was Pyrmont. While looking around I spotted 3 LOY head stones. They were 2 together and another separated by another stone. William E LOY 1867-1943 ss Anna M LOY 1864-1936 Emmett V LOY 1893-1986 ss Ottie B LOY 1894-1972 Elmer M LOY 1917-2000 ss Neomi E LOY 1918- ____ I do not think these are mine. <end> === JohnW Cramer -- JWCramer-HillTopUSA jcramer_ss@hotmail.com Also John.Cramer@das.State.OH.US Web URL: http://jwcramer.freeyellow.com/ Ohio Ancestors: CRAMER MARCHAL SCHMITT<SMITH>HIPPLE TRICK LOY To a genealogist, everything is relative. "I fear that all we have done is awakened a sleeping giant, and filled it with a desire for vengeance." -Adm.Yamamoto, after the attack on Pearl Harbor Roots are from Darke Co. Ohio.

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Eex.2ACIB/29.97.107.109 Message Board Post: Susan I kind of know whats going on with Jim, I have located some olds friends of Jim and got some info...If there is anyway possible i would like to talk to him, if not i will understand.. I hope he is well and doing ok.... Susan i am in the phone book in Saint Petersburg FL....

As your ListHostess, I would like to open these lists up to off-topic postings for a while. If you wish to post information on lost loved ones, we'd all like to pray that they be found. For those who have lost family, friends, and co-workers, we are crying with you. Roxanne ListHostess -----Original Message----- From: Holly Timm [mailto:hollyft@bright.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:37 AM To: USGenWeb-NE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [USGenWeb-NE] Prayers and Condolences On behalf of the members of The USGenWeb Project and its' Advisory Board I would like to send our heartfelt prayers,hopes and condolences not only to those in our project but to our nation. There simply are not words to express the dismay and pain over the events of yesterday when it is so hard to even wrap one's mind around something so unreal. Holly Timm, National Coordinator (Please forward as appropriate) ==== USGenWeb-NE Mailing List ==== Visit INGenWeb: http://www.ingenweb.org/ Visit MEGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~megenweb/ Visit MAGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~magenweb/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Eex.2ACIB/178.1 Message Board Post: Marie Woods 1901 is my grandmother, she passed way at age 39. She was the daughter of Marion and Lillian (Dobson) Woods from MO. Marion and Lillian had 10 kids Lena Willerd Roy Marie Oliver ?? no name birthdate 1909 Edna Ross Berlie My email is leaving@email.msn.com if you would like to contact me. Thanks, Cheryl

Hi People Does anybody have an answer for Kim. You will need to contact her directly. JohnW Cramer >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 18:59:44 -0400 >From: punkrod7 <punkrod7@netzero.net> >Cc: punkrod77@yahoo.com >Subject: loy question > >HEY!!! JUST HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING POSSIBLE LOY POTTERY. RECENTLY >SAW AN OLD WOOD-FIRED FACE JUG WITH THE INITIALS 'MCL' STAMPED IN THE >HANDLE. DO YOU BY ANY CHANCE KNOW IF THIS IS THE INITIALS OF ONE OF THE >LOY POTTERS???? ANY INFORMATION YOU CAN GIVE WOULD BE GREATLY >APPRECIATED. > >THANKS! > >KIM === JWCramer-HillTopUSA jcramer_ss@hotmail.com Also John.Cramer@das.State.OH.US Ohio Ancestors: CRAMER MARCHAL SCHMITT<SMITH>HIPPLE TRICK LOY Paternal:CRAMER MARCHAL SCHMITT>SMITH BULCHER PEQUIGNOT RIDDLE Maternal: HIPPLE, TRICK, FLOYD, LOY, MARTIN, SMITH, WASHINGTON HIPPLE, HEIPEL HEIPLE HEPPELL HEPPLE HIPLE HIPPEL HUPELL HYPLE Web URL: http://jwcramer.freeyellow.com/ Web URL: http://cacramer.freeyellow.com/ "Genealogy without documentation is mythology." Maggie "Beware of programmers who carry screwdrivers." -Leonard Brandwein

for all if you see any pottery with L.E.D. IT IS MY MOTHER , LELA ELVESTA LOY, who is a prize winning craft person of most all crafts including bead work , every thing she marked L.E,D, SHE IS STILL DOING HER CRAFT THINGS b 1914 Smiles light the day Marge Massey http://community.webtv.net/margemassey/Familytreeof http://community.webtv.net/margemassey/doc http://community.webtv.net/margemassey/MyFamilyLinesGarcia

Hi everyone, To those of you who have a copy of my book, I just found two "kind of major" errors on the Tennessee descendants--two cousins named Caswell Stooksbury and the parentage of A.G. Loy. For details, go to my updated "Corrections" section at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~loyhistory/corrections.html I've been finding a lot more info online and through what I found at Salt Lake City--I think my info has actually DOUBLED since the 1998 publication. DRW

Grady, I don't have your new E-mail address. Would you please contact me at hudgo@medt.com? Thanks, Mary Lou Hudson

No Adam Mason WAS the son of Adam as originally listed. AND THAT'S MY FINAL ANSWER!

And may I already correct myself. Adam Mason Loy was not a son of Adam Loy as I listed. Sorry for the error. More on Adam Mason later and where he comes from.

this data I just compiled from data I had both from the Archives and from the Thomas Balch genealogical library in Leesburg Va. I have had this data for years but just this moment redid reconciling it together. Here goes the first family I put together using the 1850 VA. census and a compilation from some historian who left the compilation of all families in the censuses in the Thomas Balch library. 1. Adam Loy b.1810 - married 1830 to Sarah Frye b. 1814 - who lived in Goresville at the time (I believe this is another name for the present day town of Gore near Winchester, VA). Their children - a. Mary C. Loy b. 1832 married 1856 to John Fawley b. Margaret Loy b. 1836 c. Thomas J. Loy b. 1844 married 1880 to Mary E. Umbaugh b. 1858 d. Adam Mason b. 1846 (probably know as Mason as the entry I saw in the census looked more like Mason or Moran - although it was difficult to read) married 1878 to mary Esther Frye b. 1857 (daughter to John M. Frye) e. Sarah b. 1846 f. Va. E. b. 1847 married 1875 to Wm H. Ryan (although I don't have data on her existence living with the family in the 18450 census) g. Jame b. 1848 The second family I just moment ago compiled is my g-g-grandfathers family; 1. John Loy b. 1810 married Catherine (I could never make out the last name of her father in the compilation in the Thomas Balch library) Their children: a. Fenton Loy b. 1831 b. Thomas Loy b. 1839 (carpenter who lived near Goresville) married 1869 to Mary J. Trittipoe b. 1850 (daughter to Saml Trittipoe) c. Wm Loy b. 1840 (although not listed with the family in the 1850 census) d. John W. Loy b. 1841 married 1869 to Jane E. Best b. 1843 (daughter to Albert Best - carpenter) e. George H. Loy b. 1843 married 1867 to Henrietta Cordell b. 1844 (daughter to Adam Cordell - carpenter) f. Joseph F. Loy b. 1844 (my great grandfather) married 1870 to Mary Catherine Shry b. 1850 (daughter to Wm Shry lived in the vicinity of Taylorstown) this in not my great grandmother but his first wife. g. Susan ? listed in 1850 census but not in the compilation in Thomas Balch h. Juliuis ? not sure of name as it is handwritten and difficult to read (also listed in 1850 census but not in compilation in Thomas Balch). i. Mary Ellen b. 1846 (not listed in 1850 census as living with this family but listed in compilation in Thomas Balch) married 1867 to Peter W. Fry More later.

--part1_7c.1ad809ba.28c262e0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks! This is a note I recentlysent to Delores regarding my recent research I did at the National Archives in Washington D.C. Thought you all would be interested in my findings so far and also thought I would add to the discussion some more. AS I mentioned below, I started in the very back room at the Archives, where I started on my first trip there when I first found my g-g-grandfather, john Loy b ca 1810 in VA. I had taken nothing with me that day as I went there on a whim. The back room contains all the indexes to the very early census records. This time though I also found indexes on passenger list sources. I only found 2 entries listed here under the name Loy. But I found alot of entries under the name Ley, which is the name John George Loy of Frederick ca 1750's first used. Here are the most interesting facts from that dig. Passenger and Innigration Lists Index, Filby and Meyer, Vol2 1. Ley, Christopher n.a.: Lancaster, pa. 1719 7820 p. 439 Rupp, Israel Daniel. A Collection of Upwards of Thirty Thnousand Names of German, Swiss, Dutch, French, and other Immigrants in Pennsylvania from 1727-1776 with a Statement of the Names of the Shjips Whence theyh sailed, and teh Date of Their Arrival at Philadelphia, Leipzig. (I am thinking this may well be the George Christopher listed in Delores's website ca 1697). 2. Ley, Hans Jurigh 28; Philadelphia, Pa., 1733 9041 p. 113 3. Ley, Johan Henrich 28; Philadelphia, Pa., 1733 9041 p. 765 4. Ley, Johan Henrich 13; Phildadelphia, Pa., 1733 9041 p. 767 5. Ley, Ludwig 25; Philadelphia, Pa., 1736 9041 p. 155 6. Ley, Matt n.a.; Philadelphia, Pa., 1733 9041 p. 112 7. Ley, Mattes n.a.; Philadelphia, Pa., 1733 9041 p. 110 8. Ley, Matheis n.a.; Philadelphia, Pa., 1733 7820 p. 85 9. Ley, Matthew 28; Philadelphia, Pa., 1733 9041 p. 106 10. Ley, Matthias n.a.; Philadelphia, Pa., 1733 6665 p. 554 Pennsylvania (Colony) Provincial Council. Munutes of the Provincial Council Of Pennsylvania from the Organization to the Termianation of the Proprietary Goernment. published byt the State, Harrisburg, Pa. There are many many others some of whom came into Va and not into Pa, some in the mid 1600's. But I thought this data interesting to share. Will share more later from that dig. Hope this helps someone. --part1_7c.1ad809ba.28c262e0_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <BJMullinix@aol.com> From: BJMullinix@aol.com Full-name: BJMullinix Message-ID: <81.f5d24e1.28bf72c5@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 06:43:17 EDT Subject: Re: Questions on first Loy's in America To: Loy_Genealogy@att.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 122 Yes I have contacted many of the others. In fact, that is where I started from your website. The other interesting facts that I have not yet debated with anyone, simply because it is too lengthy a discussion right now perhaps is the fact that I live within 1 hour of the National Archives in Washington, D.C. where I have done alot of research on VA Loy's. I recently retraced my steps there and just started from the beginning again, having gone there unplanned, one day. In my last trip I started with the earliest info the Archives had on any Loy's in VA and copied down all info I could on any Loy in VA up through 1850-1860 censuses. Unless my eyesight fails me, I don't have a thing on the John Heinrich Loy's lines that Grady talked about in the Frederick Co, VA area in those early timeframes. None of his names match with any I find in the census records. So this cloudies the whole picture even more for everyone, I am sure. Thanks for your info. I will let you know if I connect anyone with my lineage. --part1_7c.1ad809ba.28c262e0_boundary--