Hi Pat, I've also gotten very interested in George and Nathaniel Utie and the families whose lives are intertwined with theirs. If you haven't already, you might enjoy reading the article "Early Settlers of the Site of Havre De Grace" by William B. Marye, http://books.google.com/books?id=d_sMAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA197. In 1658, Henry Ward settled on a tract of land near the Susquehanna with the Stockett and Utie families. I'm trying to figure out how exactly he's related to them. One of the wives of Nathaniel Utie was Mary Mapletoft who was previously married to a Lawrence Ward. I'm trying to find if there's a relationship between Henry Ward and Lawrence Ward. I'd be interested in knowing more about Harvey's Deposition if you have it. Ellen Ward -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Patriciaa Charron Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:44 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDR] George and Nathaniel Utie In the late 1650's I am finding many references to the Utie family in MD in the general Chesapeake Bay area. In 1657, one Thomas Utie was drummed out of VA for being a Quaker. Other names mentioned in this court action were Thurston and Stockett. The Maryland Historical Magazine mentions that in 1658 the Manor of Speutia ( formerly called Beare Island) was laid out for Colonel Nathaniel Utie. This same article mentions a Thomas Stockett of a later Named Taylor's Island, who had for neighbors a George and Nathaniel Utie, and a Thomas Thurston. The William and Mary Quarterly adds Harmer's Town, Anne Arundel, Fort Conquest, Point Conquest, Palmer Island, William Claiborne vs. Capt John Utie Esq of Utimaria, Godfrey Harmer, Harvey's Deposition, and much else of interest too detailed for general consumption. Okay, what are my odds. For more years than I care to admit, I have been dragging around the family given names of Ute, Thurston, Harmer, and even Claiborne for Pete's sake. As in any pre-1800 colonial line I have my share of Quakers. Can anyone shed further light on Harvey's Deposition, Harmer's Town, Godfrey Harmer, any Utie ( what is the origin of that name?) Thurston, Speutia, Utimaria, and anything else you'd care to extol upon on a fine Wednesday morning. Pat *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is one article on Harvey...there are others coming to you. They detail Claiborne, Utie et alia filing a deposition against Gov Harvey with the English Court to have him removed. One more question...My data, with these same names in it, contains on Jonathan Martinoe, a son in law of John Grace and wife Sarah, possibly Dolbee. Jonathan is involved in a really messy court case wherein he and widow Sarah take on everyone else in the family over whether she can log and strip the land John left to her as a life interest. At her death it was to go to their son.I estimate this Jonathan to be born roughly 1750. As I look at the Nicholas Martiau below, I wonder... anyone doing Martinoe/Martineau? Pat A Principal in the Overthrow of a Capricious Ruler York History Series #A-5, April 1997 by (the late) Dick Ivy, Honorary NMDA Member Hearing of secret and unlawful meetings since January by some of his councilors concerning decisions of his rulership of Virginia, Governor Sir John Harvey apprehended and committed their "chief actors" William English, Nicolas Martiau and Francis Pott. On Apr. 28, 1635, the Governor's Councilors Samuel Matthews, John Utie, Thomas Harwood, William Perry, William Farrer, William Peirce, George Menefie and Dr. John Pott came to the governor-called council meeting at his house. John Utie of Yorke's Chiskiak Parish hit the governor hard on his shoulder and declared he was under arrest for treason. The others held him secure and told him to go back to England to answer the complaints against him. They set Martiau and others free and called for their force of 50 musketmen waiting at a short distance. On May 7, 1635, the councilors met at James Town, opened the floor to complaints, and elected Capt. John West as governor. The complaint included the giveaway to please the King of the Isle of Kent to Maryland by a willing Harvey for persecuted Catholics from England, ignoring the ownership claim by William Claiborne who was trading with the Indians here. A war ensued between forces from Maryland and Claiborne when the latter refused to become a Catholic, it is said. Martiau was granted 1,600 acres of land that year. The King reinstated Harvey and the rebels were ordered to appear at the King's Star Court, but were never tried for an unknown reason. Finally, Harvey was recalled over another incident of poor judgment. -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ellen C. Ward Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 3:40 PM To: 'lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com' Subject: Re: [LDR] George and Nathaniel Utie Hi Pat, I've also gotten very interested in George and Nathaniel Utie and the families whose lives are intertwined with theirs. If you haven't already, you might enjoy reading the article "Early Settlers of the Site of Havre De Grace" by William B. Marye, http://books.google.com/books?id=d_sMAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA197. In 1658, Henry Ward settled on a tract of land near the Susquehanna with the Stockett and Utie families. I'm trying to figure out how exactly he's related to them. One of the wives of Nathaniel Utie was Mary Mapletoft who was previously married to a Lawrence Ward. I'm trying to find if there's a relationship between Henry Ward and Lawrence Ward. I'd be interested in knowing more about Harvey's Deposition if you have it. Ellen Ward -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Patriciaa Charron Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:44 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDR] George and Nathaniel Utie In the late 1650's I am finding many references to the Utie family in MD in the general Chesapeake Bay area. In 1657, one Thomas Utie was drummed out of VA for being a Quaker. Other names mentioned in this court action were Thurston and Stockett. The Maryland Historical Magazine mentions that in 1658 the Manor of Speutia ( formerly called Beare Island) was laid out for Colonel Nathaniel Utie. This same article mentions a Thomas Stockett of a later Named Taylor's Island, who had for neighbors a George and Nathaniel Utie, and a Thomas Thurston. The William and Mary Quarterly adds Harmer's Town, Anne Arundel, Fort Conquest, Point Conquest, Palmer Island, William Claiborne vs. Capt John Utie Esq of Utimaria, Godfrey Harmer, Harvey's Deposition, and much else of interest too detailed for general consumption. Okay, what are my odds. For more years than I care to admit, I have been dragging around the family given names of Ute, Thurston, Harmer, and even Claiborne for Pete's sake. As in any pre-1800 colonial line I have my share of Quakers. Can anyone shed further light on Harvey's Deposition, Harmer's Town, Godfrey Harmer, any Utie ( what is the origin of that name?) Thurston, Speutia, Utimaria, and anything else you'd care to extol upon on a fine Wednesday morning. Pat *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? 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If you "google" Harvey's Deposition, you end up with a bunch of flotsam the best of which, in my opinion , is "The Institutional History of Virginia" and "Tyler's Quarterly Historical and Genealogical Magazine". The upshot seems to be that Harvey was biased toward the King obtaining a monopoly on the tobacco trade in VA ( the planters did not accept his offer and did not feel it was binding) and he also was sympathetic toward Lord Baltimore lopping off a hunk of VA for MD. As I understand it, in spite of Claiborne's flamboyant rhetoric, MD was not so much set aside for Catholics, as for religious tolerance, which explains why so many Quakers fled there from VA, after 1660. I'm sure someone would care to judiciously comment.Pat -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Patriciaa Charron Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 9:28 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDR] Utie and Martinoe/Martineau/Martiau This is one article on Harvey...there are others coming to you. They detail Claiborne, Utie et alia filing a deposition against Gov Harvey with the English Court to have him removed. One more question...My data, with these same names in it, contains on Jonathan Martinoe, a son in law of John Grace and wife Sarah, possibly Dolbee. Jonathan is involved in a really messy court case wherein he and widow Sarah take on everyone else in the family over whether she can log and strip the land John left to her as a life interest. At her death it was to go to their son.I estimate this Jonathan to be born roughly 1750. As I look at the Nicholas Martiau below, I wonder... anyone doing Martinoe/Martineau? Pat A Principal in the Overthrow of a Capricious Ruler York History Series #A-5, April 1997 by (the late) Dick Ivy, Honorary NMDA Member Hearing of secret and unlawful meetings since January by some of his councilors concerning decisions of his rulership of Virginia, Governor Sir John Harvey apprehended and committed their "chief actors" William English, Nicolas Martiau and Francis Pott. On Apr. 28, 1635, the Governor's Councilors Samuel Matthews, John Utie, Thomas Harwood, William Perry, William Farrer, William Peirce, George Menefie and Dr. John Pott came to the governor-called council meeting at his house. John Utie of Yorke's Chiskiak Parish hit the governor hard on his shoulder and declared he was under arrest for treason. The others held him secure and told him to go back to England to answer the complaints against him. They set Martiau and others free and called for their force of 50 musketmen waiting at a short distance. On May 7, 1635, the councilors met at James Town, opened the floor to complaints, and elected Capt. John West as governor. The complaint included the giveaway to please the King of the Isle of Kent to Maryland by a willing Harvey for persecuted Catholics from England, ignoring the ownership claim by William Claiborne who was trading with the Indians here. A war ensued between forces from Maryland and Claiborne when the latter refused to become a Catholic, it is said. Martiau was granted 1,600 acres of land that year. The King reinstated Harvey and the rebels were ordered to appear at the King's Star Court, but were never tried for an unknown reason. Finally, Harvey was recalled over another incident of poor judgment. -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ellen C. Ward Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 3:40 PM To: 'lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com' Subject: Re: [LDR] George and Nathaniel Utie Hi Pat, I've also gotten very interested in George and Nathaniel Utie and the families whose lives are intertwined with theirs. If you haven't already, you might enjoy reading the article "Early Settlers of the Site of Havre De Grace" by William B. Marye, http://books.google.com/books?id=d_sMAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA197. In 1658, Henry Ward settled on a tract of land near the Susquehanna with the Stockett and Utie families. I'm trying to figure out how exactly he's related to them. One of the wives of Nathaniel Utie was Mary Mapletoft who was previously married to a Lawrence Ward. I'm trying to find if there's a relationship between Henry Ward and Lawrence Ward. I'd be interested in knowing more about Harvey's Deposition if you have it. Ellen Ward -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Patriciaa Charron Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:44 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDR] George and Nathaniel Utie In the late 1650's I am finding many references to the Utie family in MD in the general Chesapeake Bay area. In 1657, one Thomas Utie was drummed out of VA for being a Quaker. Other names mentioned in this court action were Thurston and Stockett. The Maryland Historical Magazine mentions that in 1658 the Manor of Speutia ( formerly called Beare Island) was laid out for Colonel Nathaniel Utie. This same article mentions a Thomas Stockett of a later Named Taylor's Island, who had for neighbors a George and Nathaniel Utie, and a Thomas Thurston. The William and Mary Quarterly adds Harmer's Town, Anne Arundel, Fort Conquest, Point Conquest, Palmer Island, William Claiborne vs. Capt John Utie Esq of Utimaria, Godfrey Harmer, Harvey's Deposition, and much else of interest too detailed for general consumption. Okay, what are my odds. For more years than I care to admit, I have been dragging around the family given names of Ute, Thurston, Harmer, and even Claiborne for Pete's sake. As in any pre-1800 colonial line I have my share of Quakers. Can anyone shed further light on Harvey's Deposition, Harmer's Town, Godfrey Harmer, any Utie ( what is the origin of that name?) Thurston, Speutia, Utimaria, and anything else you'd care to extol upon on a fine Wednesday morning. Pat *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? 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