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    1. Re: [LDR] Hog Quarter David Bowen re archives tax list

    3. presumably one can send off to the archives for the actual pages for our ancestors in the 1783 census using the index as a guide....is that true? Thanks for the interesting discussion. Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 06:11:08 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [LDR] Hog Quarter David Bowen 1783 Worcester Co. Exactly. The assessments reflected the special interests du jour, with as much or as little sense as tax laws today. Just for reference, the 1783 Somerset-collected categories were those following. Comparing to those I showed the other day for Worcester, we see that the So assessors were locally instructed to be more thorough on nature and quality of the land, but that the other basic statistical tallies came down the same from above: Another important point overlooked by almost everybody is the utility of these lists as a census, certainly better (with all the other detail), than, say, the early Federal censuses (especially the missing one in Somerset). John Somerset-tabulated categories (* = not in Worcester tabulations) Taxpayer Names of Lands Acres Original Grant * Acres * If Resurvey * If Escheat * Surplus * Deficiency * Improvements * Situation * General Quality of the Soil * Quantity of Arable Land * Quantity of Wood Land * Quantity of Meadow * Value of Land Slaves Males, Females under 8 / Value Males, Females 8 -14 / Value Males 14-45 /Value Females 14-36 /Value Males 45+, Females 36+ / Value Plate Ounces / Value Horses Black Cattle Value Value of other Property Total Amount Assessment thereon White Inhabitants Male Female ___________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Dave & Jane Kearney It would be interesting to know how static the "tax list" of taxable items was ... for instance, was the item, "black cattle," on the list for 100 years, or did the list change significantly over time? (Don't laugh or chortle, but when I first read the list as posted here on the list, I thought that perhaps "black cattle" was a garbled line accidentally put together from two lines, one referring to bovine cattle, and another one for those of our ancestors who were treated as human cattle of the day.) One can imagine that the specific items to be tax tablulated at any given point in time might have been influenced by many of the same sorts of sometimes seemingly mysterious forces that shape modern tax policy. Why are some things taxed and others not? Whose ox (or black cow) was being gored in the days of yore presumably was the result of the political process, with outcomes that probably usually made good sense to the government, if not all the time to the taxees. *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/09/2010 06:45:19
    1. Re: [LDR] Hog Quarter David Bowen re archives tax list

    3. Yes, one can. Here you are, already calling it a "census". John -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, Jul 9, 2010 8:45 am Subject: Re: [LDR] Hog Quarter David Bowen re archives tax list presumably one can send off to the archives for the actual pages for our ancestors in the 1783 census using the index as a guide....is that true? Thanks for the interesting discussion. Liz

    07/09/2010 04:41:06
    1. [LDR] 1783 tax list proper citation for copies request MSA

    3. John or anyone who can answer: Would this be the proper citation to use for a requet from the archives for copies of the Quepongo 1783 tax list....if I wanted the entire Queponco 100 with all the details as to land and people etc.? It appears to be only five pages which wouldn't break the bank. Thanks in advance. Liz Legacy Accession Number:S1161-11-11Description:WO, Queponco Hundred, pp. 1-5Location:01/04/05/054Location:01/04/05/044MSA Citation:MSA S1161-114 ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 14:41:06 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [LDR] Hog Quarter David Bowen re archives tax list Yes, one can. Here you are, already calling it a "census". John -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, Jul 9, 2010 8:45 am Subject: Re: [LDR] Hog Quarter David Bowen re archives tax list presumably one can send off to the archives for the actual pages for our ancestors in the 1783 census using the index as a guide....is that true? Thanks for the interesting discussion. Liz *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/10/2010 10:30:23
    1. Re: [LDR] 1783 tax list proper citation for copies request MSA

    3. Yes, it's only five pages. I'd certainly add the plain English: 1783 Assessments, Worcester County, Queponco Hundred, pp 1-5 (all pages). John -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, Jul 10, 2010 12:30 pm Subject: [LDR] 1783 tax list proper citation for copies request MSA John or anyone who can answer: Would this be the proper citation to use for a requet from the archives for copies of the Quepongo 1783 tax list....if I wanted the entire Queponco 100 with all the details as to land and people etc.? It appears to be only five pages which wouldn't break the bank. Thanks in advance. Liz Legacy Accession Number:S1161-11-11Description:WO, Queponco Hundred, pp. 1-5Location:01/04/05/054Location:01/04/05/044MSA Citation:MSA S1161-114

    07/10/2010 07:28:45
    1. Re: [LDR] 1783 tax list proper citation for copies request MSA

    3. Thanks John. I made my order - lets see how many months it takes to actually receive it. Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 17:28:45 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [LDR] 1783 tax list proper citation for copies request MSA Yes, it's only five pages. I'd certainly add the plain English: 1783 Assessments, Worcester County, Queponco Hundred, pp 1-5 (all pages). John -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, Jul 10, 2010 12:30 pm Subject: [LDR] 1783 tax list proper citation for copies request MSA John or anyone who can answer: Would this be the proper citation to use for a requet from the archives for copies of the Quepongo 1783 tax list....if I wanted the entire Queponco 100 with all the details as to land and people etc.? It appears to be only five pages which wouldn't break the bank. Thanks in advance. Liz Legacy Accession Number:S1161-11-11Description:WO, Queponco Hundred, pp. 1-5Location:01/04/05/054Location:01/04/05/044MSA Citation:MSA S1161-114 *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/12/2010 07:34:46
    1. [LDR] land tract Huntington DELIAH Bowen

    3. I just read a deed February 7, 1810 (Worcester Liber AB folio 99) whereby one Whittington Bowen with wife Delilah sells Huntington formerly possessed by Eli Bowen to Stuart Williamson. And on Plats.net they show a land commission for Huntington "estate of Nelly Bowen" 1811. Has anybody heard of this Delilah Bowen? The only thing I know about Huntington is that John Burbage owned most of it in 1783 and Jesse Jones d. 1800 (whose widow is Polly, probably wife of Eli Bowen below) owned 7 or so acres of it. The more I look at these unattached Bowens the more surprises. Who knew there was a Delilah, wife of Whittington Bowen in 1810! (note there are TWO Whittington Bowen's in the 1810 census. - one probably who has wife Rachel and the other one unknown). Doesn't a land commission mean that there is a dispute? If I have to pay another $35 to find out what this is I will be very unhappy! Thanks all for your patience. Liz I have a will for this Eli Bowen: Eli Bowen 12 January 1810 To wife Polly Bowen - livestock, wheat, flax spinning wheel, cradle To daughter Polly Bowen - two beds, livestock, Negro girl, looking glass, note on Schoolfield Bradford To son Selby - bed, desk, two chests, Negro boy Isaac, all the chairs, plow To brothers George and Whittington Bowen - heifer, ox cart, cross cut saw, hand saw, ax, wedge Executor: William Jones "to keep the property belonging to my son Selby in his hands until he arrives to age and that he bind him out to a trade when he is nine years old and to be bound untill he is eighteen years old, a shoe maker trade." Witness: Stuart Williamson, Josiah Collins, Bowdoin Hammond 19 January 1810 Then came

    07/15/2010 06:08:31