Awesome....email me off list if you'd like to at vjh2938@gmail.com vera -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Doris Era Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:33 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] LEVEN NIBLET IN SALISBURY, MD 1920 CENSUS Vera, My late husband had Hursts in his family. I will be glad to share info. Doris On 4/10/2013 11:02 PM, Vera Hurst wrote: > Doris, > Do you ever run across any Hursts? > Thanks, > Vera > > -----Original Message----- > From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Doris Era > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 2:53 PM > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDR] LEVEN NIBLET IN SALISBURY, MD 1920 CENSUS > > Norah, > > *What area are you researching? I live in Dorchester County, Maryland. > > Doris > > * >> HI ALL, >> JUST GETTING BACK INTO SOME GENEALOGY. WE’VE BEEN MOVING ACROSS TOWN. DOES ANYONE HAVE THIS NIBLET LINE OR ANYTHING ABOUT HIS DAUGHTER PEARL NIBLET? PEARL’S SON LIVES UP HERE NEAR ME AND THE STORY IS PEARL MARRIED ROBT PERRY TOWNSEND AND HAD ONE OR TWO CHILDREN; THE SON BORN 1944. SHE LATER MD A NICOLL AND HE ADOPTED THE SON. I FOUND ROBT P AND HE’S CONECTED TO MY LINE BUT I CAN’T FIND LEVIN IN EARLIER OR LATER CENSUSES. I BELIEVE HE HAD A BROTHER OR COUSIN NAMED JOHN ALFRED. BUTI CAN’T FIND EITHER OF THEM IN THE 1900 CENSUS OR 1910 EITHER (POSSIBLY A SPELLING ERROR). ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED. UP HERE IN PA I DON’T HAVE ACCESS TO COURHOUSES. I HAVEN’T EVEN GOT MY MARRIAGE RECORDS HERE EXCEPT OWRCESTER CO PRE 1865. >> >> THANKS FOR ANY HELP. SORRY FOR THE LARGE PRINT; MY EYESIGHT IS A LITTLE WORSE. >> >> NORAH HASTINGS COLLINS >> *************************************** >> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Vera, My late husband had Hursts in his family. I will be glad to share info. Doris On 4/10/2013 11:02 PM, Vera Hurst wrote: > Doris, > Do you ever run across any Hursts? > Thanks, > Vera > > -----Original Message----- > From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Doris Era > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 2:53 PM > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDR] LEVEN NIBLET IN SALISBURY, MD 1920 CENSUS > > Norah, > > *What area are you researching? I live in Dorchester County, Maryland. > > Doris > > * >> HI ALL, >> JUST GETTING BACK INTO SOME GENEALOGY. WE’VE BEEN MOVING ACROSS TOWN. DOES ANYONE HAVE THIS NIBLET LINE OR ANYTHING ABOUT HIS DAUGHTER PEARL NIBLET? PEARL’S SON LIVES UP HERE NEAR ME AND THE STORY IS PEARL MARRIED ROBT PERRY TOWNSEND AND HAD ONE OR TWO CHILDREN; THE SON BORN 1944. SHE LATER MD A NICOLL AND HE ADOPTED THE SON. I FOUND ROBT P AND HE’S CONECTED TO MY LINE BUT I CAN’T FIND LEVIN IN EARLIER OR LATER CENSUSES. I BELIEVE HE HAD A BROTHER OR COUSIN NAMED JOHN ALFRED. BUTI CAN’T FIND EITHER OF THEM IN THE 1900 CENSUS OR 1910 EITHER (POSSIBLY A SPELLING ERROR). ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED. UP HERE IN PA I DON’T HAVE ACCESS TO COURHOUSES. I HAVEN’T EVEN GOT MY MARRIAGE RECORDS HERE EXCEPT OWRCESTER CO PRE 1865. >> >> THANKS FOR ANY HELP. SORRY FOR THE LARGE PRINT; MY EYESIGHT IS A LITTLE WORSE. >> >> NORAH HASTINGS COLLINS >> *************************************** >> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here's what I show for the ancestor lists of Samuel and Bessie: 1. Samuel Hamilton Jones (8 Nov 1870 - 11 Mar 1962) 2. John Wood Jones (24 Jul 1830 - 31 Jul 1894) 3. Sarah Elizabeth Linthicum (29 Mar 1840 - 1882) 6. Zachariah Linthicum (19 Oct 1797 - 1 Feb 1863) 7. Henrietta Busick (1806 - ) 14. James Busick (14 Nov 1761 - ) 15. Sarah Ann Webster (1779 - ) 1. Bessie B Robinson (Aug 1874 - 1933) 2. Joseph Cator Robinson (1820 - 6 Jan 1879) 3. Mary Catharine Bowdle (14 Oct 1832 - 20 Feb 1896) 6. Amos Bowdle (1805 - 11 Dec 1857) 7. Priscilla Jones (1802 - 22 Feb 1870) (Zachariah was my GGGF)

Delmarva should be one state - would solve a lot of our problems. If, of course, we could pry our records from the MSA and make them more accessible. Elizabeth In a message dated 4/12/2013 7:49:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, james-vincent@msn.com writes: And DE probably considers it part of MD. > From: EMSCRS@aol.com > Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 19:23:17 -0400 > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDR] Quantico Circuit > > The Old Line Church is probably considered part of Delaware. > > > In a message dated 4/12/2013 5:53:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > james-vincent@msn.com writes: > > The link works, but, I can't find the Old Line Church here. > > From: EMSCRS@aol.com > > Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:06:00 -0400 > > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [LDR] Quantico Circuit > > > > Thank you! > > > > Elizabeth > > > > > > In a message dated 4/12/2013 4:54:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > shari.handley@gmail.com writes: > > > > Hi Elizabeth (and everyone), > > > > Start here: > > > http://speccol.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/speccol/catalog/religion/cfm/dsp_churches.cfm > > > > There are links to look up records by denomination, county, or church > > name. When you get to the area where the records you want to look at > > are, you will be asked for login and password. Login is aaco, and > > password is aaco#. > > > > Have fun! > > > > Shari > > > > On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 7:24 PM, <EMSCRS@aol.com> wrote: > > > Shari, I cannot answer your question, but could you tell me (or all > of > > us) > > > HOW you found this? > > > > > > Elizabeth > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 4/11/2013 7:06:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > > shari.handley@gmail.com writes: > > > > > > I've been browsing through the MSA's online collection of records > from > > > old Quantico Circuit of the Methodist Episcopal Church, which in the > > > 1860s included churches called Sharptown, Moore's, Jones, Massey's, > > > Messick's, Quantico, Siloam, Rockawalkin, Hebron, Ebenezer, Mills. > > > > > > Can anyone tell me where Moore's and Massey's were? > > > > > > Was the Massey's church later known as Trinity (on Capitola Road and > > > Trinity Church Road)? Looks like many of the families listed in > > > Massey's had later generations who were found in the Trinity Church > > > records. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Shari Handley > > > srh@tyaskin.com > > *************************************** > > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > *************************************** > > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yuup.... mine left a long time ago but have to start somewhere with contacts...:) Thanks!! Vera Small world eh? -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Doris Era Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:28 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] LEVEN NIBLET IN SALISBURY, MD 1920 CENSUS Vera, My late husband's mother was a Hurst. I have some family info. Let me know whether that would be of interest. Doris On 4/10/2013 11:02 PM, Vera Hurst wrote: > Doris, > Do you ever run across any Hursts? > Thanks, > Vera > > -----Original Message----- > From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Doris > Era > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 2:53 PM > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDR] LEVEN NIBLET IN SALISBURY, MD 1920 CENSUS > > Norah, > > *What area are you researching? I live in Dorchester County, Maryland. > > Doris > > * >> HI ALL, >> JUST GETTING BACK INTO SOME GENEALOGY. WE’VE BEEN MOVING ACROSS TOWN. DOES ANYONE HAVE THIS NIBLET LINE OR ANYTHING ABOUT HIS DAUGHTER PEARL NIBLET? PEARL’S SON LIVES UP HERE NEAR ME AND THE STORY IS PEARL MARRIED ROBT PERRY TOWNSEND AND HAD ONE OR TWO CHILDREN; THE SON BORN 1944. SHE LATER MD A NICOLL AND HE ADOPTED THE SON. I FOUND ROBT P AND HE’S CONECTED TO MY LINE BUT I CAN’T FIND LEVIN IN EARLIER OR LATER CENSUSES. I BELIEVE HE HAD A BROTHER OR COUSIN NAMED JOHN ALFRED. BUTI CAN’T FIND EITHER OF THEM IN THE 1900 CENSUS OR 1910 EITHER (POSSIBLY A SPELLING ERROR). ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED. UP HERE IN PA I DON’T HAVE ACCESS TO COURHOUSES. I HAVEN’T EVEN GOT MY MARRIAGE RECORDS HERE EXCEPT OWRCESTER CO PRE 1865. >> >> THANKS FOR ANY HELP. SORRY FOR THE LARGE PRINT; MY EYESIGHT IS A LITTLE WORSE. >> >> NORAH HASTINGS COLLINS >> *************************************** >> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Did not work for me either Sent from my iPhone On Apr 12, 2013, at 5:09 PM, Roy Pollitt <rcp729@gmail.com> wrote: > *Shari and Elizabeth,* > * > * > *Unless there is something wrong at my * > *end, the link **that Shari supplied does not work.* > * > * > *Roy C Pollitt* > * > > * > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Old Line Church is probably considered part of Delaware. In a message dated 4/12/2013 5:53:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, james-vincent@msn.com writes: The link works, but, I can't find the Old Line Church here. > From: EMSCRS@aol.com > Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:06:00 -0400 > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDR] Quantico Circuit > > Thank you! > > Elizabeth > > > In a message dated 4/12/2013 4:54:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > shari.handley@gmail.com writes: > > Hi Elizabeth (and everyone), > > Start here: > http://speccol.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/speccol/catalog/religion/cfm/dsp_churches.cfm > > There are links to look up records by denomination, county, or church > name. When you get to the area where the records you want to look at > are, you will be asked for login and password. Login is aaco, and > password is aaco#. > > Have fun! > > Shari > > On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 7:24 PM, <EMSCRS@aol.com> wrote: > > Shari, I cannot answer your question, but could you tell me (or all of > us) > > HOW you found this? > > > > Elizabeth > > > > > > In a message dated 4/11/2013 7:06:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > shari.handley@gmail.com writes: > > > > I've been browsing through the MSA's online collection of records from > > old Quantico Circuit of the Methodist Episcopal Church, which in the > > 1860s included churches called Sharptown, Moore's, Jones, Massey's, > > Messick's, Quantico, Siloam, Rockawalkin, Hebron, Ebenezer, Mills. > > > > Can anyone tell me where Moore's and Massey's were? > > > > Was the Massey's church later known as Trinity (on Capitola Road and > > Trinity Church Road)? Looks like many of the families listed in > > Massey's had later generations who were found in the Trinity Church > > records. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Shari Handley > > srh@tyaskin.com > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

And DE probably considers it part of MD. > From: EMSCRS@aol.com > Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 19:23:17 -0400 > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDR] Quantico Circuit > > The Old Line Church is probably considered part of Delaware. > > > In a message dated 4/12/2013 5:53:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > james-vincent@msn.com writes: > > The link works, but, I can't find the Old Line Church here. > > From: EMSCRS@aol.com > > Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:06:00 -0400 > > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [LDR] Quantico Circuit > > > > Thank you! > > > > Elizabeth > > > > > > In a message dated 4/12/2013 4:54:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > shari.handley@gmail.com writes: > > > > Hi Elizabeth (and everyone), > > > > Start here: > > > http://speccol.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/speccol/catalog/religion/cfm/dsp_churches.cfm > > > > There are links to look up records by denomination, county, or church > > name. When you get to the area where the records you want to look at > > are, you will be asked for login and password. Login is aaco, and > > password is aaco#. > > > > Have fun! > > > > Shari > > > > On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 7:24 PM, <EMSCRS@aol.com> wrote: > > > Shari, I cannot answer your question, but could you tell me (or all > of > > us) > > > HOW you found this? > > > > > > Elizabeth > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 4/11/2013 7:06:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > > shari.handley@gmail.com writes: > > > > > > I've been browsing through the MSA's online collection of records > from > > > old Quantico Circuit of the Methodist Episcopal Church, which in the > > > 1860s included churches called Sharptown, Moore's, Jones, Massey's, > > > Messick's, Quantico, Siloam, Rockawalkin, Hebron, Ebenezer, Mills. > > > > > > Can anyone tell me where Moore's and Massey's were? > > > > > > Was the Massey's church later known as Trinity (on Capitola Road and > > > Trinity Church Road)? Looks like many of the families listed in > > > Massey's had later generations who were found in the Trinity Church > > > records. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Shari Handley > > > srh@tyaskin.com > > *************************************** > > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > *************************************** > > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

*Shari and Elizabeth,* * * *Unless there is something wrong at my * *end, the link **that Shari supplied does not work.* * * *Roy C Pollitt* * *

Thank you! Elizabeth In a message dated 4/12/2013 4:54:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, shari.handley@gmail.com writes: Hi Elizabeth (and everyone), Start here: http://speccol.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/speccol/catalog/religion/cfm/dsp_churches.cfm There are links to look up records by denomination, county, or church name. When you get to the area where the records you want to look at are, you will be asked for login and password. Login is aaco, and password is aaco#. Have fun! Shari On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 7:24 PM, <EMSCRS@aol.com> wrote: > Shari, I cannot answer your question, but could you tell me (or all of us) > HOW you found this? > > Elizabeth > > > In a message dated 4/11/2013 7:06:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > shari.handley@gmail.com writes: > > I've been browsing through the MSA's online collection of records from > old Quantico Circuit of the Methodist Episcopal Church, which in the > 1860s included churches called Sharptown, Moore's, Jones, Massey's, > Messick's, Quantico, Siloam, Rockawalkin, Hebron, Ebenezer, Mills. > > Can anyone tell me where Moore's and Massey's were? > > Was the Massey's church later known as Trinity (on Capitola Road and > Trinity Church Road)? Looks like many of the families listed in > Massey's had later generations who were found in the Trinity Church > records. > > Thanks! > > Shari Handley > srh@tyaskin.com *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The link works, but, I can't find the Old Line Church here. > From: EMSCRS@aol.com > Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:06:00 -0400 > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDR] Quantico Circuit > > Thank you! > > Elizabeth > > > In a message dated 4/12/2013 4:54:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > shari.handley@gmail.com writes: > > Hi Elizabeth (and everyone), > > Start here: > http://speccol.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/speccol/catalog/religion/cfm/dsp_churches.cfm > > There are links to look up records by denomination, county, or church > name. When you get to the area where the records you want to look at > are, you will be asked for login and password. Login is aaco, and > password is aaco#. > > Have fun! > > Shari > > On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 7:24 PM, <EMSCRS@aol.com> wrote: > > Shari, I cannot answer your question, but could you tell me (or all of > us) > > HOW you found this? > > > > Elizabeth > > > > > > In a message dated 4/11/2013 7:06:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > shari.handley@gmail.com writes: > > > > I've been browsing through the MSA's online collection of records from > > old Quantico Circuit of the Methodist Episcopal Church, which in the > > 1860s included churches called Sharptown, Moore's, Jones, Massey's, > > Messick's, Quantico, Siloam, Rockawalkin, Hebron, Ebenezer, Mills. > > > > Can anyone tell me where Moore's and Massey's were? > > > > Was the Massey's church later known as Trinity (on Capitola Road and > > Trinity Church Road)? Looks like many of the families listed in > > Massey's had later generations who were found in the Trinity Church > > records. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Shari Handley > > srh@tyaskin.com > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Elizabeth (and everyone), Start here: http://speccol.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/speccol/catalog/religion/cfm/dsp_churches.cfm There are links to look up records by denomination, county, or church name. When you get to the area where the records you want to look at are, you will be asked for login and password. Login is aaco, and password is aaco#. Have fun! Shari On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 7:24 PM, <EMSCRS@aol.com> wrote: > Shari, I cannot answer your question, but could you tell me (or all of us) > HOW you found this? > > Elizabeth > > > In a message dated 4/11/2013 7:06:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > shari.handley@gmail.com writes: > > I've been browsing through the MSA's online collection of records from > old Quantico Circuit of the Methodist Episcopal Church, which in the > 1860s included churches called Sharptown, Moore's, Jones, Massey's, > Messick's, Quantico, Siloam, Rockawalkin, Hebron, Ebenezer, Mills. > > Can anyone tell me where Moore's and Massey's were? > > Was the Massey's church later known as Trinity (on Capitola Road and > Trinity Church Road)? Looks like many of the families listed in > Massey's had later generations who were found in the Trinity Church > records. > > Thanks! > > Shari Handley > srh@tyaskin.com

Works for me.Jim Vincent > Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:09:12 -0400 > From: rcp729@gmail.com > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDR] Quantico Circuit > > *Shari and Elizabeth,* > * > * > *Unless there is something wrong at my * > *end, the link **that Shari supplied does not work.* > * > * > *Roy C Pollitt* > * > > * > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The 1860s date doesn't quite match, but I wonder if "Moore's" might refer to Elzey Moore's Meeting House, which evolved into Mount Zion Methodist Episcopal Church. Description (cut and pasted below) and map are at the DE Archives site: http://archives.delaware.gov/markers/sc/SC-195.shtml "This congregation was organized in 1809. Services were held in a structure that was first known as Elzey Moore’s meeting House and later renamed Wesley Chapel. With the closing of Wesley in 1852 the congregation was divided. On January 8, 1853, members residing in this area obtained this site from William Wheatley. A frame building was then constructed and subsequently designated as Mount Zion Methodist Episcopal Church. The church was formally incorporated in 1881. Additional property on the opposite side of the road was purchased in 1918 and in 1921 the old church was moved to that location and converted for use as a Community Hall. The present church was dedicated on June 11, 1921. The building was expanded in 1961 with the construction of additional space for educational activities." PS - Ditto to what Elizabeth asked! Andrew Huston In a message dated 4/11/2013 7:07:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, shari.handley@gmail.com writes: I've been browsing through the MSA's online collection of records from old Quantico Circuit of the Methodist Episcopal Church, which in the 1860s included churches called Sharptown, Moore's, Jones, Massey's, Messick's, Quantico, Siloam, Rockawalkin, Hebron, Ebenezer, Mills. Can anyone tell me where Moore's and Massey's were? Was the Massey's church later known as Trinity (on Capitola Road and Trinity Church Road)? Looks like many of the families listed in Massey's had later generations who were found in the Trinity Church records. Thanks! Shari Handley srh@tyaskin.com *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Shari, I cannot answer your question, but could you tell me (or all of us) HOW you found this? Elizabeth In a message dated 4/11/2013 7:06:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, shari.handley@gmail.com writes: I've been browsing through the MSA's online collection of records from old Quantico Circuit of the Methodist Episcopal Church, which in the 1860s included churches called Sharptown, Moore's, Jones, Massey's, Messick's, Quantico, Siloam, Rockawalkin, Hebron, Ebenezer, Mills. Can anyone tell me where Moore's and Massey's were? Was the Massey's church later known as Trinity (on Capitola Road and Trinity Church Road)? Looks like many of the families listed in Massey's had later generations who were found in the Trinity Church records. Thanks! Shari Handley srh@tyaskin.com *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've been browsing through the MSA's online collection of records from old Quantico Circuit of the Methodist Episcopal Church, which in the 1860s included churches called Sharptown, Moore's, Jones, Massey's, Messick's, Quantico, Siloam, Rockawalkin, Hebron, Ebenezer, Mills. Can anyone tell me where Moore's and Massey's were? Was the Massey's church later known as Trinity (on Capitola Road and Trinity Church Road)? Looks like many of the families listed in Massey's had later generations who were found in the Trinity Church records. Thanks! Shari Handley srh@tyaskin.com

Vera, My late husband's mother was a Hurst. I have some family info. Let me know whether that would be of interest. Doris On 4/10/2013 11:02 PM, Vera Hurst wrote: > Doris, > Do you ever run across any Hursts? > Thanks, > Vera > > -----Original Message----- > From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Doris Era > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 2:53 PM > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDR] LEVEN NIBLET IN SALISBURY, MD 1920 CENSUS > > Norah, > > *What area are you researching? I live in Dorchester County, Maryland. > > Doris > > * >> HI ALL, >> JUST GETTING BACK INTO SOME GENEALOGY. WE’VE BEEN MOVING ACROSS TOWN. DOES ANYONE HAVE THIS NIBLET LINE OR ANYTHING ABOUT HIS DAUGHTER PEARL NIBLET? PEARL’S SON LIVES UP HERE NEAR ME AND THE STORY IS PEARL MARRIED ROBT PERRY TOWNSEND AND HAD ONE OR TWO CHILDREN; THE SON BORN 1944. SHE LATER MD A NICOLL AND HE ADOPTED THE SON. I FOUND ROBT P AND HE’S CONECTED TO MY LINE BUT I CAN’T FIND LEVIN IN EARLIER OR LATER CENSUSES. I BELIEVE HE HAD A BROTHER OR COUSIN NAMED JOHN ALFRED. BUTI CAN’T FIND EITHER OF THEM IN THE 1900 CENSUS OR 1910 EITHER (POSSIBLY A SPELLING ERROR). ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED. UP HERE IN PA I DON’T HAVE ACCESS TO COURHOUSES. I HAVEN’T EVEN GOT MY MARRIAGE RECORDS HERE EXCEPT OWRCESTER CO PRE 1865. >> >> THANKS FOR ANY HELP. SORRY FOR THE LARGE PRINT; MY EYESIGHT IS A LITTLE WORSE. >> >> NORAH HASTINGS COLLINS >> *************************************** >> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Doris, Do you ever run across any Hursts? Thanks, Vera -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Doris Era Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 2:53 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] LEVEN NIBLET IN SALISBURY, MD 1920 CENSUS Norah, *What area are you researching? I live in Dorchester County, Maryland. Doris * > HI ALL, > JUST GETTING BACK INTO SOME GENEALOGY. WE’VE BEEN MOVING ACROSS TOWN. DOES ANYONE HAVE THIS NIBLET LINE OR ANYTHING ABOUT HIS DAUGHTER PEARL NIBLET? PEARL’S SON LIVES UP HERE NEAR ME AND THE STORY IS PEARL MARRIED ROBT PERRY TOWNSEND AND HAD ONE OR TWO CHILDREN; THE SON BORN 1944. SHE LATER MD A NICOLL AND HE ADOPTED THE SON. I FOUND ROBT P AND HE’S CONECTED TO MY LINE BUT I CAN’T FIND LEVIN IN EARLIER OR LATER CENSUSES. I BELIEVE HE HAD A BROTHER OR COUSIN NAMED JOHN ALFRED. BUTI CAN’T FIND EITHER OF THEM IN THE 1900 CENSUS OR 1910 EITHER (POSSIBLY A SPELLING ERROR). ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED. UP HERE IN PA I DON’T HAVE ACCESS TO COURHOUSES. I HAVEN’T EVEN GOT MY MARRIAGE RECORDS HERE EXCEPT OWRCESTER CO PRE 1865. > > THANKS FOR ANY HELP. SORRY FOR THE LARGE PRINT; MY EYESIGHT IS A LITTLE WORSE. > > NORAH HASTINGS COLLINS > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Forwarded from the Tull-L mailing list.......... Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:26:18-0400 Subject: James L. Tull From: stephentull To: royjuch, TULL-L@rootsweb.com In March 2011 James Lewis Tull of Mount Eagle Dr. in Alexandria,Virginia, passed away. I have attached, for your information, my father'sMarch 2002 revision of an earlier piece he wrote titled "Thomas Tulland the Search for His Roots." Sincerely, Stephen Tull Thomas Tull and the Search for hisRoots Thomas Tull (ca. 1632-1720), who arrivedon the Eastern Shore of Virginia from England during the middle of the17th century, was probably the first of the Tull family to appear in theNew World. Others soon followed--in 1657, Pieter Peiterse Tull arrived inNew Netherlands, later New York, probably from Holland; Isah Tull reachedVirginia in 1678, followed by Isaac Tull a year later; Thomas’s own kin,Richard Tull (c. 1642-1711), followed him to Virginia’s EasternShore in 1664. Tulls continued to come in a steady stream from theBritish Isles, as well as from Germany, France and elsewhere in Europe.As late as the early 1900’s, census records show a Tull family which hadrecently emigrated from Sweden to the farming plains of central Iowa. Butsuch evidence available now points to Thomas as the first in the Americancolonies. There arehowever conflicting views about exactly when Thomas arrived here andunder what circumstances. A strong claim can be found in an entry in theNorthampton County, Virginia, Book of Deeds, Wills and Claims, No. 5, for1654-1655. On 29 May 1654, Court Clerk Edme. Matthews wrote that on May25, the Court’s Commissioners (or Judges) had awarded 3,800 acres of landto Virginia militia Lt. Col. Edmund Scarburgh of that county for thetransport at his expense of seventy-six persons to Virginia (the goingrate of compensation for those so imported was a “headright” of 50 acreseach). Among those listed by Matthews as arriving aboard Scarburgh’sship, the “Ann Cleare”, was Thomas Tull. At that time Scarburgh was oneof the leading businessmen in Virginia--there was no major area ofcommerce in the Colony in which he was not active. He doubtless was eagerto claim his new lands as quickly as possible, so it is logical to assumethat Thomas and his fellow travelers had likely arrived not long beforethat May , possibly following the previous winter’s Atlanticstorms. Thomas’sname later reappeared on a number of other Virginia “headright” landclaims. First, in June 1654 in far northern Westmoreland County; then inNovember 1660 again in Northampton County; next, in August 1663 in LowerNorfolk County; and even by Lt. Col. Scarburgh himself on another claimin 1670, this time in Accomack County. The use and reuse of the names ofrecent arrivals , the outright invention of names on headright claims andeven the use by land claimants of their own names after multiple entriesinto the Colony, were all common practices under the loosely-administered“headright” system. And surely such gentle fraud was forgivable at a timewhen the need for new settlers was so great and the amount of landavailable to attract them appeared to be almost limitless. In 1664, Richard Tull arrived in Virginia as a“headright” of Lt. Col. William Waters, another influentialVirginia planter, businessman, militia officer and possible distantrelative. A year later, both Thomas and Richard had moved a shortdistance northward to Somerset County, the then-southermostof Mayland’s Eastern Shore lands. In the fall of 1666, Thomasmarried Mary Minshall, the Virginia-born daugther of planterJeffrey Minshall and his wife Frances Carsley (whose father HenryCarsley was an early Virginia emigrant). In February 1671 Thomasand Richard made their first land purchase in America, jointly buying the200-acre plantation “Salisbury” located on the north bank of the BigAnnemessix River owned by Dr. John Rhodes and his wife who a yearlater became Richard’s in-laws when he married their daughterMartha. And therest, as the saying goes, is (American) history! However,Thomas’s pre-American origins are not so easily uncovered. Record keepingin 17th century England was very haphazard. Even when compiled, recordswere frequently damaged or destroyed by fire, flood or neglect. The GreatFire of London in 1666 resulted in the loss of many irreplaceableshipping and emigration records. And the rule of Oliver Cromwell resultedin the destruction of many carefully kept church records of baptismals,marriages and deaths. Additionally, students of the Tull family history must also come to termswith still another roadblock to their research: a theory about theorigins of the family set forth by James Porter Tull in his 1942book, A Biographical Sketch of the Life of John Porter Tull and HisDescendants, 1796-1942. This work of some 170 pages is mainly devotedto a study of Porter Tull’s branch of the family and as such, isunexceptional. However,in a brief, three page introduction to it, he advanced the notion thatthe Tull family had been founded somewhere in the misty past ofancient Ireland. This idea has taken root in the studies of anumber of Tull investigators despite the absence of factual data to support it. Porter Tull’s theory was basically asfollows: 1. Kyras Tully -was a descendant of the 7th century Maotuille, second son of the Princeof Ulster, who took the anglicized name of Multully. Kyras, who died in1637, was Dean of Clonfort Cathedral in County Galway and husband ofSheela O’Kelly, daughter of Thomas O’Kelly. They had five sons: Matthew,Mark, Luke, John and Connor. (At this point in his book, Porter Tullnoted that Kyras was the 117th generation from Adam and Eve, who heplaced at B.C. 4004) 2. Matthew Tully/Tull - theoldest son of Kyras and Sheela, born in County Galway, Matthew was anofficer in the Irish Army of Charles I. However, through error orwhatever, he was recorded as “Matthew Tull” on the Army’s rolls. He issaid to have died with other Irish officers in their 1649 massacre byCromwell’s forces and his property sold at Chicester House in 1650-51.Sometime before 1653, Matthew’s son Thomas, his brother John pluspossibly other family members either escaped or were transported toEngland. 3. Thomas Tull - the Irish-bornson of Matthew, Thomas (according to Porter Tull) retained hisfather’s Army-given surname--Tull--for reasons unknown, as did his uncleJohn. Thomas’s will was said to have been recorded in 1656 and describedhim as a yeoman of Midgham in the English County of Berkshire. 4. Thomas Tull (Jr.) - son ofIrish-born Thomas and grandson of Matthew, Thomas Jr. was born inBerkshire. With Richard Tull, either a brother of cousin, he is said tohave emigrated to Virginia in 1664 where he and Richard patented land inJune of that year. Porter Tull offered no proofs to back up his Irish theory. He simplyasserted that it reflected, “...the authentic records of Ireland, Englandand Virginia”, but without any indication of where others might look toexamine such records. As for the Irish diaspora, he pointed vaguely to,“...the highest Irish authorities” who, he said, claimed that the“Cromwellian devastations” had scattered “the ancient Irish proprietorsand their children...from one end of the world to the other.” Dramaticstuff--but well short of genealogical proof. However in the absenceof other, more soundly researched versions of the family’sbackground, this notion has been accepted as “gospel” by some. This issomewhat understandable because there is just enough fact in parts ofthis theory to lend a bit of credence to the whole of it. Forexample, there was indeed a Berkshire yeoman named Thomas Tull whose willwas recorded there in 1656, who had a son named Thomas (and another namedRichard), and who had an uncle named John Tull. Fortunately, we now have the work of two Berkshire historians--Mrs.Dorothy Collier and her son, Mr. Derek Collier--who have uncovered enoughinformation to give a fairly detailed picture of the Tull family in thatsection of southern England during the 16th and 17th centuries. Theirresearch clearly establishes that the Thomas Tull who died in 1656 wasborn in Midgham, Berkshire, not Ireland. He married a Margaret Hedges whodied in 1663. Their son Thomas (1620-1674) did not emigrate to Americabut rather in 1640 married Eleanor Browne (1620-1711). They had threesons, none of whom emigrated from Berkshire. Further, Thomas’sbrother Richard also married locally and both he and his wife were buriedin Midgham. The Thomaswho died in 1656 was the son of Richard and Sibell Tull, both of whomwere Midgham natives who died in 1620 and 1643 respectively. Thomas’sgrandfather was also named Richard (c. 1540-1594) who had married aMargaret or Margery (c. 1540-1598) about 1565. They had ten childrenincluding Thomas’s father. In fact, Tulls have lived in Berkshire forover 600 years. One of the earliest references to them is found in theColthrop Manor Court Rolls, where at a Court held on 7 July 1367 it waswritten that, “John Fryday, the tithingman, presents that William Heywardunlawfully drew blood from John Tull; he is therefore inmercy...” In 1990during his own research into the family’s history, Mr. Stanley Tull nowof Sarasota, Florida, a descendent of immigrant Thomas through Thomas’sson Richard (1670-1710) and grandson Solomon (1697-1773), contracted withone of England’s leading genealogical research firms, AchievementsLimited of Canterbury, for a study of that history during the first halfof the 17th century. Achievements investigated a host of records duringits work in the following months and years. By 1993 it had uncovered manyTulls and Tull families in Berkshire, but no connection whatsoeverbetween them and Maotuille, Kyras Tully, Matthew Tully/Tull or Ireland ingeneral. Among thetwo dozen of so Tull families studied by the Colliers, there initiallyappeared several with possible connections to immigrant Thomas. On closerscrutiny most were shown to have no direct family link to him althoughseveral of these remain "possibles". At the same time,the Colliers discovered a new lead in the neighboring county ofHampshire. Among theten children of Richard and Margaret or Margery was a son named Gyles (c.1575-c. 1650). Gyles Tull, who with John was an uncle of the Thomas whodied in 1656, married three times. His first was to Mary Marshall in 1599who died in 1603 without children. His second wife was Margaret Deane ofBaughurst with whom he had eight children before she died in 1623 (Gylesand Margaret were the great grandparents of Jethro Tull (1674-1744), thenoted English agricultural author and inventor, who name was appropriatedin the 1970/80’s by a popular British rock and roll band). Gylesthird wife was a widow, Avis Platt nee White of Wolverton,Hampshire. He moved to her home and four children were bornto them there--sons Thomas and Richard and daughters Avis and Joane.Avis’s will was written the year before her death in 1651 and shenoted in it that husband Gyles had predeceased her (no will by him has asyet been found.). Avis left bequests to her sons by her firstmarriage, John and Lawrence Platt. Both she and Gyles alsoleft generous bequests to their own children when they reached theirmajorities, 21 years for the boys and 18 for the girls. Whether or not the Hampton-born Thomas of Gylesand Avis will prove to be the long-sought first immigrant toAmerica is still to be determined. “Our” Thomas could yet bediscovered to have been a member of the numerous Berkshire Countyclan. Or he could be from another English county altogether - whilethe oldest records and largest numbers of the family are from Berkshireand Hampshire, there are also records of Tull families in the counties ofSussex, London and Gloucestershire. But whatever the outcome of theseinvestigations, two things already seem evident: first, that theanswer to the question of Thomas'’s origins will most likely be found inone of England’s southern counties; and second, that when at lastfound, these origins are unlikely to have had an “Irishconnection.” James L. Tull March 2002

To whom it may concern, I show the Thomas Tull that married Mary Minshall as the son of Thomas Tull of the western shore that married Mary Waters. This Thomas was born about 1616 the son of William Tull. Mary Waters was the daughter of Lt. Edward Waters and his wife Grace O'Neil. Lt. Edward Waters was the son of William Waters and his wife Alice Cannon. Grace O'Neil was the daughter of Arther O'Neil and his wife Grace O'Hara. I am sorry but several years ago my hard drive crashed and some of the data that was lost was my note file. I do have that I received some of the data from GHOTES and some of it from the Will of William Waters. > To: LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com > From: laien@aol.com > Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 16:46:55 -0400 > Subject: [LDR] Thomas Tull and the Search for his Roots > > > Forwarded from the Tull-L mailing list.......... > > > Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:26:18-0400 > Subject: James L. Tull > From: stephentull > To: royjuch, TULL-L@rootsweb.com > > In March 2011 James Lewis Tull of Mount Eagle Dr. in Alexandria,Virginia, passed away. I have attached, for your information, my father'sMarch 2002 revision of an earlier piece he wrote titled "Thomas Tulland the Search for His Roots." > > Sincerely, > Stephen Tull > > Thomas Tull and the Search for hisRoots > > > > Thomas Tull (ca. 1632-1720), who arrivedon the Eastern Shore of Virginia from England during the middle of the17th century, was probably the first of the Tull family to appear in theNew World. Others soon followed--in 1657, Pieter Peiterse Tull arrived inNew Netherlands, later New York, probably from Holland; Isah Tull reachedVirginia in 1678, followed by Isaac Tull a year later; Thomas’s own kin,Richard Tull (c. 1642-1711), followed him to Virginia’s EasternShore in 1664. Tulls continued to come in a steady stream from theBritish Isles, as well as from Germany, France and elsewhere in Europe.As late as the early 1900’s, census records show a Tull family which hadrecently emigrated from Sweden to the farming plains of central Iowa. Butsuch evidence available now points to Thomas as the first in the Americancolonies. > > There arehowever conflicting views about exactly when Thomas arrived here andunder what circumstances. A strong claim can be found in an entry in theNorthampton County, Virginia, Book of Deeds, Wills and Claims, No. 5, for1654-1655. On 29 May 1654, Court Clerk Edme. Matthews wrote that on May25, the Court’s Commissioners (or Judges) had awarded 3,800 acres of landto Virginia militia Lt. Col. Edmund Scarburgh of that county for thetransport at his expense of seventy-six persons to Virginia (the goingrate of compensation for those so imported was a “headright” of 50 acreseach). Among those listed by Matthews as arriving aboard Scarburgh’sship, the “Ann Cleare”, was Thomas Tull. At that time Scarburgh was oneof the leading businessmen in Virginia--there was no major area ofcommerce in the Colony in which he was not active. He doubtless was eagerto claim his new lands as quickly as possible, so it is logical to assumethat Thomas and his fellow travelers had likely arrived not long beforethat May , possibly following the previous winter’s Atlanticstorms. > > Thomas’sname later reappeared on a number of other Virginia “headright” landclaims. First, in June 1654 in far northern Westmoreland County; then inNovember 1660 again in Northampton County; next, in August 1663 in LowerNorfolk County; and even by Lt. Col. Scarburgh himself on another claimin 1670, this time in Accomack County. The use and reuse of the names ofrecent arrivals , the outright invention of names on headright claims andeven the use by land claimants of their own names after multiple entriesinto the Colony, were all common practices under the loosely-administered“headright” system. And surely such gentle fraud was forgivable at a timewhen the need for new settlers was so great and the amount of landavailable to attract them appeared to be almost limitless. > In 1664, Richard Tull arrived in Virginia as a“headright” of Lt. Col. William Waters, another influentialVirginia planter, businessman, militia officer and possible distantrelative. A year later, both Thomas and Richard had moved a shortdistance northward to Somerset County, the then-southermostof Mayland’s Eastern Shore lands. In the fall of 1666, Thomasmarried Mary Minshall, the Virginia-born daugther of planterJeffrey Minshall and his wife Frances Carsley (whose father HenryCarsley was an early Virginia emigrant). In February 1671 Thomasand Richard made their first land purchase in America, jointly buying the200-acre plantation “Salisbury” located on the north bank of the BigAnnemessix River owned by Dr. John Rhodes and his wife who a yearlater became Richard’s in-laws when he married their daughterMartha. > > And therest, as the saying goes, is (American) history! > > However,Thomas’s pre-American origins are not so easily uncovered. Record keepingin 17th century England was very haphazard. Even when compiled, recordswere frequently damaged or destroyed by fire, flood or neglect. The GreatFire of London in 1666 resulted in the loss of many irreplaceableshipping and emigration records. And the rule of Oliver Cromwell resultedin the destruction of many carefully kept church records of baptismals,marriages and deaths. > > Additionally, students of the Tull family history must also come to termswith still another roadblock to their research: a theory about theorigins of the family set forth by James Porter Tull in his 1942book, A Biographical Sketch of the Life of John Porter Tull and HisDescendants, 1796-1942. This work of some 170 pages is mainly devotedto a study of Porter Tull’s branch of the family and as such, isunexceptional. > > However,in a brief, three page introduction to it, he advanced the notion thatthe Tull family had been founded somewhere in the misty past ofancient Ireland. This idea has taken root in the studies of anumber of Tull investigators despite the absence of factual data to support it. Porter Tull’s theory was basically asfollows: > > > > > 1. Kyras Tully -was a descendant of the 7th century Maotuille, second son of the Princeof Ulster, who took the anglicized name of Multully. Kyras, who died in1637, was Dean of Clonfort Cathedral in County Galway and husband ofSheela O’Kelly, daughter of Thomas O’Kelly. They had five sons: Matthew,Mark, Luke, John and Connor. (At this point in his book, Porter Tullnoted that Kyras was the 117th generation from Adam and Eve, who heplaced at B.C. 4004) > > > > > > > 2. Matthew Tully/Tull - theoldest son of Kyras and Sheela, born in County Galway, Matthew was anofficer in the Irish Army of Charles I. However, through error orwhatever, he was recorded as “Matthew Tull” on the Army’s rolls. He issaid to have died with other Irish officers in their 1649 massacre byCromwell’s forces and his property sold at Chicester House in 1650-51.Sometime before 1653, Matthew’s son Thomas, his brother John pluspossibly other family members either escaped or were transported toEngland. > > > 3. Thomas Tull - the Irish-bornson of Matthew, Thomas (according to Porter Tull) retained hisfather’s Army-given surname--Tull--for reasons unknown, as did his uncleJohn. Thomas’s will was said to have been recorded in 1656 and describedhim as a yeoman of Midgham in the English County of Berkshire. > > > 4. Thomas Tull (Jr.) - son ofIrish-born Thomas and grandson of Matthew, Thomas Jr. was born inBerkshire. With Richard Tull, either a brother of cousin, he is said tohave emigrated to Virginia in 1664 where he and Richard patented land inJune of that year. > > > > > > Porter Tull offered no proofs to back up his Irish theory. He simplyasserted that it reflected, “...the authentic records of Ireland, Englandand Virginia”, but without any indication of where others might look toexamine such records. As for the Irish diaspora, he pointed vaguely to,“...the highest Irish authorities” who, he said, claimed that the“Cromwellian devastations” had scattered “the ancient Irish proprietorsand their children...from one end of the world to the other.” > > Dramaticstuff--but well short of genealogical proof. However in the absenceof other, more soundly researched versions of the family’sbackground, this notion has been accepted as “gospel” by some. This issomewhat understandable because there is just enough fact in parts ofthis theory to lend a bit of credence to the whole of it. Forexample, there was indeed a Berkshire yeoman named Thomas Tull whose willwas recorded there in 1656, who had a son named Thomas (and another namedRichard), and who had an uncle named John Tull. > > Fortunately, we now have the work of two Berkshire historians--Mrs.Dorothy Collier and her son, Mr. Derek Collier--who have uncovered enoughinformation to give a fairly detailed picture of the Tull family in thatsection of southern England during the 16th and 17th centuries. > > Theirresearch clearly establishes that the Thomas Tull who died in 1656 wasborn in Midgham, Berkshire, not Ireland. He married a Margaret Hedges whodied in 1663. Their son Thomas (1620-1674) did not emigrate to Americabut rather in 1640 married Eleanor Browne (1620-1711). They had threesons, none of whom emigrated from Berkshire. Further, Thomas’sbrother Richard also married locally and both he and his wife were buriedin Midgham. > > The Thomaswho died in 1656 was the son of Richard and Sibell Tull, both of whomwere Midgham natives who died in 1620 and 1643 respectively. Thomas’sgrandfather was also named Richard (c. 1540-1594) who had married aMargaret or Margery (c. 1540-1598) about 1565. They had ten childrenincluding Thomas’s father. In fact, Tulls have lived in Berkshire forover 600 years. One of the earliest references to them is found in theColthrop Manor Court Rolls, where at a Court held on 7 July 1367 it waswritten that, “John Fryday, the tithingman, presents that William Heywardunlawfully drew blood from John Tull; he is therefore inmercy...” > > In 1990during his own research into the family’s history, Mr. Stanley Tull nowof Sarasota, Florida, a descendent of immigrant Thomas through Thomas’sson Richard (1670-1710) and grandson Solomon (1697-1773), contracted withone of England’s leading genealogical research firms, AchievementsLimited of Canterbury, for a study of that history during the first halfof the 17th century. Achievements investigated a host of records duringits work in the following months and years. By 1993 it had uncovered manyTulls and Tull families in Berkshire, but no connection whatsoeverbetween them and Maotuille, Kyras Tully, Matthew Tully/Tull or Ireland ingeneral. > > Among thetwo dozen of so Tull families studied by the Colliers, there initiallyappeared several with possible connections to immigrant Thomas. On closerscrutiny most were shown to have no direct family link to him althoughseveral of these remain "possibles". At the same time,the Colliers discovered a new lead in the neighboring county ofHampshire. > > Among theten children of Richard and Margaret or Margery was a son named Gyles (c.1575-c. 1650). Gyles Tull, who with John was an uncle of the Thomas whodied in 1656, married three times. His first was to Mary Marshall in 1599who died in 1603 without children. His second wife was Margaret Deane ofBaughurst with whom he had eight children before she died in 1623 (Gylesand Margaret were the great grandparents of Jethro Tull (1674-1744), thenoted English agricultural author and inventor, who name was appropriatedin the 1970/80’s by a popular British rock and roll band). > > Gylesthird wife was a widow, Avis Platt nee White of Wolverton,Hampshire. He moved to her home and four children were bornto them there--sons Thomas and Richard and daughters Avis and Joane.Avis’s will was written the year before her death in 1651 and shenoted in it that husband Gyles had predeceased her (no will by him has asyet been found.). Avis left bequests to her sons by her firstmarriage, John and Lawrence Platt. Both she and Gyles alsoleft generous bequests to their own children when they reached theirmajorities, 21 years for the boys and 18 for the girls. > > Whether or not the Hampton-born Thomas of Gylesand Avis will prove to be the long-sought first immigrant toAmerica is still to be determined. “Our” Thomas could yet bediscovered to have been a member of the numerous Berkshire Countyclan. Or he could be from another English county altogether - whilethe oldest records and largest numbers of the family are from Berkshireand Hampshire, there are also records of Tull families in the counties ofSussex, London and Gloucestershire. > > But whatever the outcome of theseinvestigations, two things already seem evident: first, that theanswer to the question of Thomas'’s origins will most likely be found inone of England’s southern counties; and second, that when at lastfound, these origins are unlikely to have had an “Irishconnection.” > > > James L. 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