Jane: You are correct that DNA is just an aid in finding possible relations. I have to laugh when I get notices of a possible relative and see they have no tree, or a very few people in their tree. I've even been contacted by people who were adopted hoping to find their relatives via DNA on a genealogy site! However, it is another tool in our research box, and, a different, relatively effective one. I usually find I know much more about my family history (thanks mainly to standing on the shoulders of people who've been researching my family much longer than I, like Elizabeth Smith - thankyou) occasionally, I am able to pick up some tidbits from these relatives that I would not have found otherwise. I know many people researching their family history spend untold hours and dollars traveling to distant places hoping to find a document that reveals a single fact about a single ancestor. Relative to that the cost of DNA testing is rather trivial, and the return potentially great. Jim Vincent > From: jdmcdonnell@comcast.net > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 19:07:22 -0500 > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDR] Female DNA testing - all DNA testing - things to consider - limitations > > Dear List, > > The problem I have whenever there is one of these exchanges on a list, is that there is a lot of misinformation regarding DNA because of 1) outdated information and 2) the intense sales job done by multi-billion dollar business and 3) what amounts to periodic "list adverts" of happy testers. > > Yes, there are new advances in DNA testing, yes, you can sometimes find out if a distant cousin shares an ancestor, and further your research using their hard work. And that is about it. In fact that is it. It cannot tell you which ancestor specifically was the shared ancestor. It can't magically "find" relatives. The data base is still small, and after a few generations becomes too muddled to be useful. Since you mentioned the DAR "accepting" Y-DNA, this is a quote from their website: " Y-DNA will not be considered as stand-alone proof of linage because, while it can be used as a tool to point to a family, it cannot be used as absolute proof for an individual." Even the "new improved" tests don't replace the need for your to document your personal genealogy. > > If you are comfortable with the small chance you will discover new information, comfortable with spending lots of money (the cheap 12 marker will only tell you whether you share and ancestor 9 - 15 GENERATIONS ago) and just want to have some fun with miscellaneous data, the tests are for you. Do LOTS of research online because most of the Google results are just "ads" for various companies (especially Google's own DNA operation), almost impossible to find objective research or investigative reporting (but note again the DAR disclaimer). You will find a matching test only gives information on a minuscule portion of your genetic inheritance. Companies extrapolate information and give "best statistical guess" generalities depending on the test chosen and other factors. > > Some of these companies (23andme) are getting into trouble with their medical DNA false positive and false negative test results and are having that part of their operation shut down by the FDA. See any major news outlet report for updates on this, although since that particular DNA company is owned by Google you have to search a little harder. > > > Good luck with whatever you choose to do. > > JD > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I know, but it sounded good, and a joke is never really out of place (so long as it isn't hurtful). FYI, the NSDAR will now be accepting Y-DNA as a supporting link for membership. Elizabeth In a message dated 1/13/2014 4:16:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, kathlingram45@gmail.com writes: Elizabeth and Marjorie.. Please read what Jim Vincent just said..He has found BOTH sides of his Vincent family using autosomal testing which either men or women can do and they get results for BOTH sides of their families.He did not get that information with the Y or male test. In the last 5 years the face of DNA has changed. It is a new world. Did anyone read my post where I said that I tested ? I am a female ..lol..as is my sister.I get results from both sides of the family, males and females.No men tested. Dad is deceased and I have no brothers. Folks, read through the posts. Thanks Kathleen Carrow Ingram Guild # 6449 myainfolk.blogspot.com/ myainfolkfantofireland.blogspot.com/ trees.ancestry.com/tree/52630507/family *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You have to prove his service and connection to you. I think that the current patriot for whom I just began filling out the paperwork to add him as a supplemental or additional patriot to my DAR membership might be a good example: His name is Gideon Walker.  For any of you who connect with the Duvalls as in Mareen, he married Priscilla Duvall.  He is listed in the DAR database, but it says that future applicants must prove his service.  A distant cousin on Ancestry has been helpfully posting what is needed to prove him for DAR, so she includes a record of his PA service.  To prove him, I have to add this document to my application, to prove that he did indeed serve.  He was with the militia there very briefly, so finding this proof was very difficult for her (She is a member, but the DAR has become very much more particular since she joined just a few years ago, so they are requiring proof of service.) Proof of lineage gets difficult with early census records that only list fathers' names and the gender and ages of children.  My Walker moves to KY where the records have proven even more tough.  There is a biography written by a grandson that lists the names of all the uncles and aunts who would then be the children of Priscilla Duvall Walker and Gideon Walker that is all the proof I have for the generation between Gideon and his son Howard Joseph.  Now the DAR will likely take that biography as proof of that generation, but it sure would be nice if I could find a direct male Walker descendent with whom I could definitely prove my relationship.  That male DNA test, combined with the genealogical connection to a Walker male descendent would be a second proof of my relationship with Gideon Walker's son, Howard, and indeed, proof that Howard even was Gideon's son.  I like to prove relationships in more than one method if I can since the DAR has become so particular.  Indeed, if they reject my application for Gideon, based on this biography, I will have to turn to DNA.  I am not sure of other proof connecting Gideon with his son. Now I do have a very strong autosomal DNA connection to descendants of Gideon Walker, but this DNA test does not tell the whole story without the genealogy as it interprets both parents without identifying which parental line it is, so the DAR does not recognize this DNA test.  The Y-test, on the other hand, measures only the direct male line.  For example, my husband matches his father, grandfather, great-grandfather, etc (and our son).  The sex-connected DNA tests only measure direct parental lines in the appropriate gender.  Using the female test, my great niece, who is the daughter of my sister's daughter has the same female DNA as me.  This test does not measure/include the DNA of her African-American father.  If she took an autosomal test like Ancestry, 12andMe, or Family Finder, she would see his DNA results also, but the DAR would not accept that, as it fails to definitely recognize DNA from the patriot ancestor.  The Gideon Walker DNA would be in her also, but test results fail to connect to Gideon beyond a shadow of a doubt.   That is how I get this. Cindy Anderson ________________________________ From: "Bluelightning75@aol.com" <Bluelightning75@aol.com> To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 6:46 PM Subject: [LDR] NSDAR How would one prove a Rev, War lineage if the soldier has never been  proven? "Valley Forge Legacy - The Muster Roll Project" in 2011 has 2 John  Bennett listed from Delaware. One with Number DE32145 and the other with number  DE17018. How would I find more information about these 2 soldiers to see if  possibly I could connect with them? I just went to the updated website and it now only shows one John Bennett  from Delaware number DE17018. Is there a way to check his descendants? In a message dated 1/13/2014 6:50:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  kathlingram45@gmail.com writes: Elizabeth Yes I see the DAR Is doing that. I should read up on  it as I am the Registrar for my  Chapter. Not sure how it would work  and only the Y I would think, at least for now. As you said, still need  a man for some things, Y testing is one. Kathleen Carrow  Ingram Guild #  6449 myainfolk.blogspot.com/ myainfolkfantofireland.blogspot.com/ trees.ancestry.com/tree/52630507/family *************************************** QUESTIONS  about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower  DelMarVa Roots Mailing List  FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To  unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to  LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without  the quotes in the subject and the body of the  message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? 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Your point is NOT what either Elizabeth or I was addressing. Marjorie "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Barb Holmes <bholmes@austin.rr.com> wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kathleen > Ingram > Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 3:16 PM > To: LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDR] Female DNA testing > > Elizabeth and Marjorie.. > Please read what Jim Vincent just said..He has found BOTH sides of his > Vincent family using autosomal testing which either men or women can do and > they get results for BOTH sides of their families.He did not get that > information with the Y or male test. > > In the last 5 years the face of DNA has changed. It is a new world. > Did anyone read my post where I said that I tested ? I am a female > ..lol..as > is my sister.I get results from both sides of the family, males and > females.No men tested. Dad is deceased and I have no brothers. > > Folks, read through the posts. > Thanks > > Kathleen Carrow Ingram > Guild # 6449 > > myainfolk.blogspot.com/ > myainfolkfantofireland.blogspot.com/ > trees.ancestry.com/tree/52630507/family > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Elizabeth is on the right track, Joan. You can register his name at FTDNA , pay for the test yourself and give your email as the contact address. Marjorie "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 3:57 PM, <EMSCRS@aol.com> wrote: > Perhaps he would give you some spit for a birthday gift? I don't think > anything can be found through your DNA, as the female lines go back to > mother, her mother, her mother's mother, etc. Sadly, there are some > things for > which you do need a man. > > Elizabeth > > > In a message dated 1/13/2014 2:47:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > Bluelightning75@aol.com writes: > > I have traced my ancestry on the Eastern side of Sussex County Delaware > for > now 200 years. The problem is that my brother is not interested. He is the > > only surviving male for 4 generations. How much information can be derived > for my maiden name from just my DNA? > Names in my lines through my father: Bennett, Hudson, Derrickson, Evans, > Williams, Rickards, Hickman > Thanks, > Joan > > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

-----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kathleen Ingram Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 3:16 PM To: LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Female DNA testing Elizabeth and Marjorie.. Please read what Jim Vincent just said..He has found BOTH sides of his Vincent family using autosomal testing which either men or women can do and they get results for BOTH sides of their families.He did not get that information with the Y or male test. In the last 5 years the face of DNA has changed. It is a new world. Did anyone read my post where I said that I tested ? I am a female ..lol..as is my sister.I get results from both sides of the family, males and females.No men tested. Dad is deceased and I have no brothers. Folks, read through the posts. Thanks Kathleen Carrow Ingram Guild # 6449 myainfolk.blogspot.com/ myainfolkfantofireland.blogspot.com/ trees.ancestry.com/tree/52630507/family *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Perhaps he would give you some spit for a birthday gift? I don't think anything can be found through your DNA, as the female lines go back to mother, her mother, her mother's mother, etc. Sadly, there are some things for which you do need a man. Elizabeth In a message dated 1/13/2014 2:47:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Bluelightning75@aol.com writes: I have traced my ancestry on the Eastern side of Sussex County Delaware for now 200 years. The problem is that my brother is not interested. He is the only surviving male for 4 generations. How much information can be derived for my maiden name from just my DNA? Names in my lines through my father: Bennett, Hudson, Derrickson, Evans, Williams, Rickards, Hickman Thanks, Joan *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have traced my ancestry on the Eastern side of Sussex County Delaware for now 200 years. The problem is that my brother is not interested. He is the only surviving male for 4 generations. How much information can be derived for my maiden name from just my DNA? Names in my lines through my father: Bennett, Hudson, Derrickson, Evans, Williams, Rickards, Hickman Thanks, Joan

Joan: Through the autosomal DNA test (available from AncestryDNA, FTDNA, or 23&me for $99 - I used Ancestry), I have discovered "cousins" on both my maternal and paternal grandmother's lines as well as through my great grandmother Vincent and 2nd great grandfather Vincent. I have also had indication of genetic relations to persons further removed than that both through the male linage and various maternal branches, though those connections have not been proven by traditional research (I and those persons have not filled our trees out extensively enough to prove the intersection). On the other hand, my Y-37 DNA test (pure male linage) has not turned up any relatives. Jim Vincent > From: Bluelightning75@aol.com > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:46:32 -0500 > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LDR] Female DNA testing > > I have traced my ancestry on the Eastern side of Sussex County Delaware for > now 200 years. The problem is that my brother is not interested. He is the > only surviving male for 4 generations. How much information can be derived > for my maiden name from just my DNA? > Names in my lines through my father: Bennett, Hudson, Derrickson, Evans, > Williams, Rickards, Hickman > Thanks, > Joan > > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

George Dill, In the last 4 years autosomal DNA has show links between males and females. Your Sarah has no connection to your Y 67 test. Remember that Y DNA is only 1% of your entire genome. MtDNA is another 1%. Nothing further can be done with your Y DNA unless of course other males test who can give you Sarah's maiden name. The remainder is your double chromosome string which can bring together males and females. These are tested at 3 places in what are called "Cousin Tests". I tested in the Beta test at 23andme in the fall of 2009 and have answered many of those questions. I have 5 Carrow cousins who are very far distant from me in time who I have matched with at 23andme. 3 of us descend from John Carrow and Mary Keys who married in 1811 in Little Creek DE.One cousin's oldest male ancestor is a brother to this John Carrow so it is one generation further back. I also have a very small match with a NC Carrow who is even further back in time. I also have 2 of my family at the Family Finder test at Family Tree DNA. In the Lower Delmarva group we now as of tonight have 52 people who have tested Family Finder. Some of those show 800 cousins. You can get a lot of information out of that. Each of these tests are currently $99. I usually tell folks to wait for a sale but we have just gotten over the holiday sale. What Jim Vincent was talking about was his autosomal test at AncestryDNA which he has uploaded to Gedmatch.com, a 3rd party site. The tests cannot be compared with each other except at a third party site. Family Tree DNA does take trnasfers of raw genome from 23andme and AncestryDNA. That currently costs $69. I hope this helps clarify things a bit. Kathleen Carrow Ingram Guild # 6449 myainfolk.blogspot.com/ myainfolkfantofireland.blogspot.com/ trees.ancestry.com/tree/52630507/family

Dear Kathleen, Yes your explanation helps a lot. I will try to do the next test in the future. With love in Christ, George ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen Ingram" <kathlingram45@gmail.com> To: <LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] Lower Delmarva DNA group > George Dill, In the last 4 years autosomal DNA has show links between > males and females. Your Sarah has no connection to your Y 67 test. > Remember that Y DNA is only 1% of your entire genome. MtDNA is another > 1%. Nothing further can be done with your Y DNA unless of course other > males test who can give you Sarah's maiden name. > > The remainder is your double chromosome string which can bring > together males and females. These are tested at 3 places in what are > called "Cousin Tests". I tested in the Beta test at 23andme in the > fall of 2009 and have answered many of those questions. > > I have 5 Carrow cousins who are very far distant from me in time who I > have matched with at 23andme. 3 of us descend from John Carrow and > Mary Keys who married in 1811 in Little Creek DE.One cousin's oldest > male ancestor is a brother to this John Carrow so it is one generation > further back. I also have a very small match with a NC Carrow who is > even further back in time. > > I also have 2 of my family at the Family Finder test at Family Tree > DNA. In the Lower Delmarva group we now as of tonight have 52 people > who have tested Family Finder. Some of those show 800 cousins. You can > get a lot of information out of that. > > Each of these tests are currently $99. I usually tell folks to wait > for a sale but we have just gotten over the holiday sale. > > What Jim Vincent was talking about was his autosomal test at > AncestryDNA which he has uploaded to Gedmatch.com, a 3rd party site. > The tests cannot be compared with each other except at a third party > site. Family Tree DNA does take trnasfers of raw genome from 23andme > and AncestryDNA. That currently costs $69. > > I hope this helps clarify things a bit. > > > Kathleen Carrow Ingram > Guild # 6449 > > myainfolk.blogspot.com/ > myainfolkfantofireland.blogspot.com/ > trees.ancestry.com/tree/52630507/family > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I found this discussion interesting but I confess that I do not understand how it works. I am able to trace my ancestors back to the lower DelMarVa geographic area, specifically the marriage of John Dill and Sarah (maiden name unknown) at the White Marsh Church in 1702. They had five sons who were all listed in their wills but there was no mention of daughters. John and Sarah Dill lived in Murderkill Hundred (now Kent Co., DE) just a few miles East of Whitelysburg, MD. I have also found his father in Talbot Co., MD who was married to _____ Oderon (spelling?). I have not been able to find the maiden name of Sarah or who she may be related to nor anything more about anyone in the Oderon family. In hopes to find others who may be related to Sarah, I had a y-DNA (67) test result performed at at Family Tree DNA about five years ago and have not found anyone new who belong to my y-DNA group. How could I better use this y-DNA information to find more family connections? Thank you for your help. With love in Christ, George ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen Ingram" <kathlingram45@gmail.com> To: <LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [LDR] Lower Delmarva DNA group > Jim Vincent > The Lower Delmarva DNA groups IS at FTDNA but many there have tested > other places, like yourself. I have 12 of my family at GEDmatch and > some others have their there also. I do have some Ancestor Projects at > GEDmatch but they are not active now.John Olson has told me they may > be in the future. I had made mine private as I was getting a lot of > non English speaking members to it and I was getting confused. > > There are a couple of possibilities for you. One is to transfer your > AncestryDNA genome to FTDNA..It is currently $69 but I think it was > cheaper at Christmas. > Also I started a Google Community called this: Delmarva DNA only 3 > of us so far.. > > I am not comfortable making a Google group..possibly something I am > doing wrong.. > > Or a Yahoo group..? You could try to start one? I have some > AncestryDNA groups but they want to charge me to start a new one for > Delmarva.. I did try.. > Since you tested their autosomal test can you do that? Can others come? > > I would be glad to participate in whatever could work to share results > Kathleen > > > > > Kathleen Carrow Ingram > Guild # 6449 > > myainfolk.blogspot.com/ > myainfolkfantofireland.blogspot.com/ > trees.ancestry.com/tree/52630507/family > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jim Vincent The Lower Delmarva DNA groups IS at FTDNA but many there have tested other places, like yourself. I have 12 of my family at GEDmatch and some others have their there also. I do have some Ancestor Projects at GEDmatch but they are not active now.John Olson has told me they may be in the future. I had made mine private as I was getting a lot of non English speaking members to it and I was getting confused. There are a couple of possibilities for you. One is to transfer your AncestryDNA genome to FTDNA..It is currently $69 but I think it was cheaper at Christmas. Also I started a Google Community called this: Delmarva DNA only 3 of us so far.. I am not comfortable making a Google group..possibly something I am doing wrong.. Or a Yahoo group..? You could try to start one? I have some AncestryDNA groups but they want to charge me to start a new one for Delmarva.. I did try.. Since you tested their autosomal test can you do that? Can others come? I would be glad to participate in whatever could work to share results Kathleen Kathleen Carrow Ingram Guild # 6449 myainfolk.blogspot.com/ myainfolkfantofireland.blogspot.com/ trees.ancestry.com/tree/52630507/family

With all the folks in the DNA group I seldom can do much genealogy for it. Since I have one Co-Admin, I am looking about. I have several Townsends in the group. They match each other and others in both Y and autosomal. I have a Townsend connection myself, maybe tow. The known one is that my 6th GreatGrandmother Susanna marries William Townsend before she marries Richard Maloney who dies in Cedar Creek Hundred Sussex County. Maloney/Jones/Carrow are mine. They eventually are in Mispillion. I THINK Susanna may be a daughter of Manuel Manlove as her first son named Manuel and there are property connections to Townsends and Maloneys. My question is this.. Most of the Townsends I see trace back to Lewis, Lazarus,John. I can see a Richard, Margaret,Barbary come into MD by 1668.Richard is deceased 1676-78. Do the others come from this line or are they separate. I did not look in my Accomac Court CD. Thanks Kathleen Kathleen Carrow Ingram Guild # 6449 myainfolk.blogspot.com/ myainfolkfantofireland.blogspot.com/ trees.ancestry.com/tree/52630507/family

Just a FYI on the group. Started a few years ago by others and me, it is pretty large now with close to 180 members and just over 50 autosomal ( Family Finder) kits. Family Finder is the " cousin test" that tests out 5 or more generations, male or female. Recently there was just myself as Admin. which was problematical. I have a new Co-Admin, Dale Wyatt who is helping with housekeeping. The large amount of Family Finder testers, which results in thousands of LowerDelmarva cousins still leaves me with a need for help there for at least one more Co-Admin. Newer efforts by Family Tree DNA allow better comparisons on the Family Finder kits which include the X to some degree now. FTDNA's huge new BIG Y test has 3 testers who will soon have results. I really could use help with that one also, preferably a male who is testing. You need to have a working knowledge of DNA testing to be a Co-Admin but I appreciate any and all genealogists who have answered my questions about families over the years. I am a member of ISOGG and a Beta tester at 23andme in 2009 where I have 12 on my account. My first group at Family Tree DNA was in 2006. I have 2 of my own families now at Guild of One-Name Studies, Carrow and Faunt(Fant) where I now look at most families in a Global fashion. I follow you all here but have not posted for a few years. I just joined with my gmail account. Kathleen Carrow Ingram Guild One-Name # 6449 myainfolk.blogspot.com/ myainfolkfantofireland.blogspot.com/ trees.ancestry.com/tree/52630507/family

Kathleen: Is the LDR DNA group only on FTDNA? I've done a Y37 with them but not found any close matches. I've done the AncestryDNA Autosomal test and uploaded my data to Gedmatch and have found several "cousins" both on Ancestry and Gedmatch. I've also had my aunt (father's sister) and cousin (father's brother's son) DNA done on AncestryDNA. Since our surname ancestors trace back to DELMARVA (five generations born there beginning in 1715) it would be nice to test our DNA against that of other known DELMARVA descendants. I know we have ties through the wives of these Vincent's to other DELMARVA surnames, including Wingate, Cannon, Hearn(e), Newbold, Williams, Maddox, Dolby, Covington, Jones, Kenney, Pope, Langrell, Ingram ... Thanks Jim Vincent > Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:25:14 -0200 > From: kathlingram45@gmail.com > To: LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LDR] Lower Delmarva DNA group > > Just a FYI on the group. Started a few years ago by others and me, it > is pretty large now with close to 180 members and just over 50 > autosomal ( Family Finder) kits. Family Finder is the " cousin test" > that tests out 5 or more generations, male or female. > Recently there was just myself as Admin. which was problematical. I > have a new Co-Admin, Dale Wyatt who is helping with housekeeping. > > The large amount of Family Finder testers, which results in thousands > of LowerDelmarva cousins still leaves me with a need for help there > for at least one more Co-Admin. Newer efforts by Family Tree DNA allow > better comparisons on the Family Finder kits which include the X to > some degree now. > > FTDNA's huge new BIG Y test has 3 testers who will soon have results. > I really could use help with that one also, preferably a male who is > testing. > > You need to have a working knowledge of DNA testing to be a Co-Admin > but I appreciate any and all genealogists who have answered my > questions about families over the years. > > I am a member of ISOGG and a Beta tester at 23andme in 2009 where I > have 12 on my account. My first group at Family Tree DNA was in 2006. > > I have 2 of my own families now at Guild of One-Name Studies, Carrow > and Faunt(Fant) where I now look at most families in a Global fashion. > > I follow you all here but have not posted for a few years. I just > joined with my gmail account. > > Kathleen Carrow Ingram > Guild One-Name # 6449 > > myainfolk.blogspot.com/ > myainfolkfantofireland.blogspot.com/ > trees.ancestry.com/tree/52630507/family > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Don't believe you'll find a picture of him, either, since portrait artists were few, and served the elite, and photography did not become generally available until the 1840s... Bob Nichol [researching Nichol, Nichols, Nicol, Nicols, Nicoll, Nicolls, Nicholl, Nicholls in 1770-1790 Dorchester/Caroline Counties, MD] ----- Original Message ----- From: marjorie adams Sent: 01/11/14 07:32 PM To: Leila Alfier, LDR Subject: Re: [LDR] Henry SMITH You will probably not find a grave marker for him as before 1800 in this area they were not made of wood, not stone and have been subjected to the elements. Marjorie "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 7:25 PM, Leila Alfier <alfier@earthlink.net> wrote: > I just read a Delmarva settlers biographical profile on Henry SMITH who > owned land and lived in Delaware, Maryland, and Virginia. According to > this profile, he last resided on a tract of land known as "Smith's > Recovery" on the Manokin River in Maryland. He died in Maryland in 1703. I > am searching for his grave site. If there is a picture of him somewhere, I > surely would love it have a copy of it. Thank you, in advance, for any > information about where he is buried would be helpful and truly > appreciated. > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or U! NSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message O wad some Pow'r the giftie gie us To see oursels as ithers see us! --Robert Burns

You will probably not find a grave marker for him as before 1800 in this area they were not made of wood, not stone and have been subjected to the elements. Marjorie "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 7:25 PM, Leila Alfier <alfier@earthlink.net> wrote: > I just read a Delmarva settlers biographical profile on Henry SMITH who > owned land and lived in Delaware, Maryland, and Virginia. According to > this profile, he last resided on a tract of land known as "Smith's > Recovery" on the Manokin River in Maryland. He died in Maryland in 1703. I > am searching for his grave site. If there is a picture of him somewhere, I > surely would love it have a copy of it. Thank you, in advance, for any > information about where he is buried would be helpful and truly > appreciated. > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I just read a Delmarva settlers biographical profile on Henry SMITH who owned land and lived in Delaware, Maryland, and Virginia. According to this profile, he last resided on a tract of land known as "Smith's Recovery" on the Manokin River in Maryland. He died in Maryland in 1703. I am searching for his grave site. If there is a picture of him somewhere, I surely would love it have a copy of it. Thank you, in advance, for any information about where he is buried would be helpful and truly appreciated.

As a listowner of other lists, I'd like you to know that if you are getting unsubscribed from any roots web lists and have a road runner address, the road runner part is the problem. They have installed new spam filters that register LISTSERV users as spammers. Your account gets closed temporarily. Rootsweb starts bouncing your mail. after a # of bounces, they decide you aren't there any more and unsubscribe you. If this happens, either write to your list owner, or get a Yahoo or other generic account and join roots web with that. I know several of you on the ragan-roots list were lost to us during this process, before another list owner clued me in. Patricia.