John .... Your interpretation seems logical and a correct reading of the meaning of the Skordas entry. There is always the possibility of transcription error, even in original documents and there are at least two transcriptions here. The original list itself and the Skordas transcription. Skordas was a official, at one time for a lengthy period, of the MD State Archive. With that background his work should have been quite reliable. If you have not done so, you might inquire of one or more of those who advocate birth in Colonial America and see , if possible, what the source & reason might be for the birth in Colonial America position. Good luck, Joe Lake On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 7:13 AM John Welsh wrote: Good Morning, In my continuing search for info. on George Betts I found the following: Betts, George , Liber 10, Folio 569, Transported 1665, in the "Agreement of Bristol". Source The Early Settlers of MD by Skordas I would be interested in discussing this anyone following this line. I think it means that George was probably born in England and not in Colonial America (MD) as some have stated. Thanks John *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Everyone, Bob Nichol had this to say :"illiterate yeomen.. left little trace of themselves before the 1700s...all that is left is physical evidence in the form of DNA" , which I think is a riveting thing to say. It describes my passion for DNA and obviously that of others as well. I am thrilled beyond words ( well maybe not BEYOND words) at this thought and this gift from centuries gone by that so many of us are taking advantage of. I am grateful to live in such an age. Digital records and DNA. Kathleen Carrow Ingram Guild # 6449 myainfolk.blogspot.com/ myainfolkfantofireland.blogspot.com/ trees.ancestry.com/tree/52630507/family

Barbara Jane's post is correct and informative. Many of you have a lot of information..Anyone who wants to "see" if they share with others in the Lower Delmarva Group feel free to join. The Admins have a Matrix that allows us to see who triangulates with others in the group..not who are cousins but who are common cousins. Although not being related, having common relative points to a shared geographic ancestry. I cannot share that with everyone but we can share with one another in the group. I am still looking for a common place for members of the now over 55 Family Finder kits to share "surnames" in common. That alone make the test worthwhile. If you think that your might have a Carrow, for example and put Carrow into the search and find that name come up in matches- it is good information. Sometimes 3rd party companies have lists of SNPS recently found to belong to a certain culture..like my "Saami", that the company's more general algorithm does not identify. Knowing that helps to some degree. A Dr. McDonald identified my "Arctic" as did DNA Tribes a long time ago. Dr. McDonald is well though of..DNA Tribes not so much but I like and have utilized both. Also, 23andme has THREE different ways of looking at what they call your "Ancestry Compostion"..#1 is Conservative #2 is Standard and #3 is Speculative..That means that the SNPS McDonald and DNA Tribes look at are allowed into Speculative. That is the one I usually look at. Family Finder has the ever so boring one way to look that shows me as 100% +- European and specifically Orcadian..that says that ALL of my genome is from the British Isles or the North Sea area.. which I knew.. 23andme shows me with a TEENSY bit of Yakut, NA and West African which again points to the Nordic Tribal stuff. and still shows 7.4% nonspecific North Europe. Luke at DNA Tribes had told me that it was between 15-17% which I now know is a minimum of a grandparents share.My sister is identical. I still work at it all but many questions have been answered for me. Kathleen Carrow Ingram Guild # 6449 myainfolk.blogspot.com/ myainfolkfantofireland.blogspot.com/ trees.ancestry.com/tree/52630507/family

  Good Morning, In my continuing search for info. on George Betts I found the following: Betts, George , Liber 10, Folio 569, Transported 1665, in the "Agreement of Bristol". Source The Early Settlers of MD by Skordas I would be interested in discussing this anyone following this line.  I think it means that George was probably born in England and not in Colonial America (MD) as some have stated. Thanks John

As with LeGates or LeCates, Lankford and Langford seemed to be interchangeable in the past with the Lankford spelling winning out. I am working on a project on Child Labor with a short bio on a Daisy Lankford born around 1902 in Delaware. She was the daughter of a Harry and Katie C. Lankford. They lived in Seaford with one other sibling, Harry S. Lankford b. c. 1890. I have two pictures of Daisy working in Greenabaum's Cannery in 1907 as part of the Hine Collection for the Child Labor Act Commission of 1910. She later worked in the office there and was given a scholarship by the company to attend Secretarial School. (remember the days when the guidance counselors would say "now if you girls want to a professional, you can be a teacher, a nurse or a secretary. Which do you want to be?") She married a motorcycle trooper, Malcolm Orr, and was later the first secretary to the SVFD Auxiliary. I don't believe that she and Malcolm ever had children but don't know. There's so many people on the list, I'm just hoping that someone might know her... and more info would be nice and a picture would really help! Thanks ... j

Laura My point with that was that with large chunks of your genome ( like your parent) or some exotic different gene pool ( Asian) you could see the ethnic identity possibly. With a great grandparent it is doubtful to "See" it.. BUT you WILL get lots of cousins matches and many of them will know that ancestry even if you do not. My Norway grandfather was born North of the Arctic Circle in Saami ( Lapland) territory. Early on "outside" or 3rd party researchers told me that it was Siberian Tribal which is more or less what it is. The main companies call it "unassigned Northern European" because it looks different from Scandinavia but still looks similar to other Baltic countries. That is both for my sister and myself. Kathleen Carrow Ingram Guild # 6449 myainfolk.blogspot.com/ myainfolkfantofireland.blogspot.com/ trees.ancestry.com/tree/52630507/family

Laura Well it is not magic nor is there a crystal ball but 23andme definitely has the best geographic profile of any of the 3 autosomal testing companies.It is however a composition of your genome. If you thought your great great grandmother was from a distinct nationality you MIGHT be able to see it. Know however that your great great grandmother is at BEST 6 % of your genome makes it unlikely unless she was Ashkenazi, African, Southern European or certain parts of Asia.It could be as little as 1-2%.. You inherit 50 % of your parents and 50 % the same as your siblings BUT Grandparents get iffy..my 3 grandchildren inherited 23, 24 and 17% of my genome. So my grandson got 33% from his maternal grandfather and 17% from me. So then it is less and less. After you test there are 3rd party sites like Gedmatch.com and Eurogenes etc. where you can upload and compare but it does require some skill to understand. I am 25 % Early Colonial and 50 + % Irish and seem to have about 17-20% Of my Norwegian Grandfather but all of that together looks similar. All of those people came from the same small part of the world. Norway, Scotland, Ireland,England share many of the same genes. Kathleen Carrow Ingram Guild # 6449 myainfolk.blogspot.com/ myainfolkfantofireland.blogspot.com/ trees.ancestry.com/tree/52630507/family

Laura Just keep working at it, I tested 4 years ago and still work at it. My successes are better than 1/3 which is great.. FTDNA takes transfers but there is a fee.. Here is my Gedmatch.com kit.. M103328 and my sisters M102148 Kathleen Carrow Ingram Guild # 6449 myainfolk.blogspot.com/ myainfolkfantofireland.blogspot.com/ trees.ancestry.com/tree/52630507/family

ROSA GORDY HAD A BROTHER NAMED MINAS A. I BELIEVE. -----Original Message----- From: Anne Ramsby Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:36 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] LEGATES mentioned in your list Do you know whether Legates has been seen as Lecates? I have a Ggrandmother (Rosa Gordy b. 12/11/1869, d. 5/13/1900, Delmar, MD [Family Bible records], who my father thought was an orphan, until I found she lost her father (a Gordy), then lost her mother (Mary Nichols) a few years later, AFTER Mary married 2nd a Legates/Lecates. It looks like GGrandmother (Rosa Gordy) went to live with the Lecates/Legates in Census records, while a teenager (perhaps age 13-14), and may have stayed there until her marriage at age 20, to my GGrandfather, George A Waller. Anne WALLER WOODBURY LOMINAC BARRINGER ROPER -----Original Message----- From: EMSCRS@aol.com Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 9:52 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Female DNA testing ONLY POSSIBLE SOURCE I CAN THINK OF WOULD BE THE CEMETERY RECORDS AND/OR THE HUDSON TATNALL LISTING. IF YOU DON'T HAVE THEM, SEND ME THE NAMES AND I WILL LOOK. ELIZABETH In a message dated 1/13/2014 9:21:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lenorah123@comcast.net writes: HI LIZ, JUST TO THROW SPANNERS IN THE WORKS A LOT OF US MD AND DEL DESCENDANTS CAME UP HERE FROM ACCOMACK CO. AS IN MY WESTERHOUSES, TAYLORS, DRISKELLS, AND I THINK MAYBE BYRDS AND LEGATES, TOWNSENDS ETC ETC ETC..... AND DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEAS AS TO WHO MIGHT HAVE THE CHURCH RECORDS FOR MT OLIVET CHURCH ON SNOW HILL ROAD, ALMOST TO SNOW HILL? I WOULD LIKE TO FIND THE CEMETERY RECORDS . SOMEBODY HAS TO KNOW WHAT PLOTS ARE OCCUPIED OR OWNED. MY GGGRANDPARENTS ARE BURIED THERE IN THE BACK AND THE WOOD MARKERS ARE GONE SINCE THE 1920'S OR SO. THEY DISAPPEARED OFF THE CENSUS AFTER 1880. HE WAS SAMPSON C. SHOCKLEY AND I WAS UNABLE TO IDENTIFY HIS PARENTS. IF THERE WERE SHOCKLEYS BURIED IN THE SAME AREA IT MIGHT BE A CLUE. ANY INFO WOULD BE WELCOME. TAKE CARE LIZ AND GOD BLESS, KEEP 'EM STRAIGHT, NORAH HASTINGS COOPER COLLINS -----Original Message----- From: EMSCRS@aol.com Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 7:20 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Female DNA testing Of course, but most of the listmembers are aware that I (or we, if I want to pretend to be royal!) live in Virginia. When referring to my chapter, I only mean one county - Accomack. Should have made myself clearer, but then I would have had to think. Elizabeth In a message dated 1/13/2014 7:16:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, marjea@wildblue.net writes: When you say "We" on LDR you must define it as only VA of Delmarva if that is what you mean--to me MD and some of DE are also Lower Delmarva. Marjorie "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 7:09 PM, <EMSCRS@aol.com> wrote: > Of course, but we did not lose any courthouses (we only have two anyway), > although many churches have burned. The difficulties and frustrations > experienced by those from burned counties are horrific. > > Elizabeth > > > In a message dated 1/13/2014 7:03:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > marjea@wildblue.net writes: > > Elizabeth, but there were court house and church fires even without the > wars. > > Marjorie > "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and > to > play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke > > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 6:55 PM, <EMSCRS@aol.com> wrote: > > > No sense in reading it until someone wants to go that route. Mostly > > everyone here already knows their lines back to Adam and Eve, and we do > > have the > > documentation readily available. Lucky us - missed all the wars, at > least > > in terms of losing records. > > > > Elizabeth > > > > > > In a message dated 1/13/2014 6:49:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > kathlingram45@gmail.com writes: > > > > Elizabeth > > Yes I see the DAR Is doing that. I should read up on it as I am the > > Registrar for my Chapter. Not sure how it would work and only the Y I > > would think, at least for now. > > As you said, still need a man for some things, Y testing is one. > > > > Kathleen Carrow Ingram > > Guild # 6449 > > > > myainfolk.blogspot.com/ > > myainfolkfantofireland.blogspot.com/ > > trees.ancestry.com/tree/52630507/family > > *************************************** > > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > *************************************** > > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? 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In my database I have James Minos Fookes (1808-1863) who married Maria Fookes (1st cousins). Their daughter Sarah Priscilla Fookes married a John Gordy; they had a daughter Lillie Gordy. Do any of these folks hook up with your Gordy lines? Elaine -----Original Message----- From: lenorah123@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:52 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] LEGATES mentioned in your list ROSA GORDY HAD A BROTHER NAMED MINAS A. I BELIEVE. -----Original Message----- From: Anne Ramsby Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:36 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] LEGATES mentioned in your list Do you know whether Legates has been seen as Lecates? I have a Ggrandmother (Rosa Gordy b. 12/11/1869, d. 5/13/1900, Delmar, MD [Family Bible records], who my father thought was an orphan, until I found she lost her father (a Gordy), then lost her mother (Mary Nichols) a few years later, AFTER Mary married 2nd a Legates/Lecates. It looks like GGrandmother (Rosa Gordy) went to live with the Lecates/Legates in Census records, while a teenager (perhaps age 13-14), and may have stayed there until her marriage at age 20, to my GGrandfather, George A Waller. Anne WALLER WOODBURY LOMINAC BARRINGER ROPER -----Original Message----- From: EMSCRS@aol.com Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 9:52 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Female DNA testing ONLY POSSIBLE SOURCE I CAN THINK OF WOULD BE THE CEMETERY RECORDS AND/OR THE HUDSON TATNALL LISTING. IF YOU DON'T HAVE THEM, SEND ME THE NAMES AND I WILL LOOK. ELIZABETH In a message dated 1/13/2014 9:21:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lenorah123@comcast.net writes: HI LIZ, JUST TO THROW SPANNERS IN THE WORKS A LOT OF US MD AND DEL DESCENDANTS CAME UP HERE FROM ACCOMACK CO. AS IN MY WESTERHOUSES, TAYLORS, DRISKELLS, AND I THINK MAYBE BYRDS AND LEGATES, TOWNSENDS ETC ETC ETC..... AND DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEAS AS TO WHO MIGHT HAVE THE CHURCH RECORDS FOR MT OLIVET CHURCH ON SNOW HILL ROAD, ALMOST TO SNOW HILL? I WOULD LIKE TO FIND THE CEMETERY RECORDS . SOMEBODY HAS TO KNOW WHAT PLOTS ARE OCCUPIED OR OWNED. MY GGGRANDPARENTS ARE BURIED THERE IN THE BACK AND THE WOOD MARKERS ARE GONE SINCE THE 1920'S OR SO. THEY DISAPPEARED OFF THE CENSUS AFTER 1880. HE WAS SAMPSON C. SHOCKLEY AND I WAS UNABLE TO IDENTIFY HIS PARENTS. IF THERE WERE SHOCKLEYS BURIED IN THE SAME AREA IT MIGHT BE A CLUE. ANY INFO WOULD BE WELCOME. TAKE CARE LIZ AND GOD BLESS, KEEP 'EM STRAIGHT, NORAH HASTINGS COOPER COLLINS -----Original Message----- From: EMSCRS@aol.com Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 7:20 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Female DNA testing Of course, but most of the listmembers are aware that I (or we, if I want to pretend to be royal!) live in Virginia. When referring to my chapter, I only mean one county - Accomack. Should have made myself clearer, but then I would have had to think. Elizabeth In a message dated 1/13/2014 7:16:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, marjea@wildblue.net writes: When you say "We" on LDR you must define it as only VA of Delmarva if that is what you mean--to me MD and some of DE are also Lower Delmarva. Marjorie "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 7:09 PM, <EMSCRS@aol.com> wrote: > Of course, but we did not lose any courthouses (we only have two anyway), > although many churches have burned. The difficulties and frustrations > experienced by those from burned counties are horrific. > > Elizabeth > > > In a message dated 1/13/2014 7:03:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > marjea@wildblue.net writes: > > Elizabeth, but there were court house and church fires even without the > wars. > > Marjorie > "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and > to > play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke > > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 6:55 PM, <EMSCRS@aol.com> wrote: > > > No sense in reading it until someone wants to go that route. Mostly > > everyone here already knows their lines back to Adam and Eve, and we do > > have the > > documentation readily available. Lucky us - missed all the wars, at > least > > in terms of losing records. > > > > Elizabeth > > > > > > In a message dated 1/13/2014 6:49:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > kathlingram45@gmail.com writes: > > > > Elizabeth > > Yes I see the DAR Is doing that. I should read up on it as I am the > > Registrar for my Chapter. Not sure how it would work and only the Y I > > would think, at least for now. > > As you said, still need a man for some things, Y testing is one. > > > > Kathleen Carrow Ingram > > Guild # 6449 > > > > myainfolk.blogspot.com/ > > myainfolkfantofireland.blogspot.com/ > > trees.ancestry.com/tree/52630507/family > > *************************************** > > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > *************************************** > > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? 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ROSE GORDY'S FATHER WAS MINOS GORDY BORN 1840. HE IS IN THE 1870 CENSUS IN SALISBURY, MD ALONG WITH WIFE MARY AND DAUGHTER ROSE. YOU PROBABLY ALREADY HAD THAT BUT IF YOU NEED MORE ON THEM JUST SAY SO. -----Original Message----- From: Anne Ramsby Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:36 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] LEGATES mentioned in your list Do you know whether Legates has been seen as Lecates? I have a Ggrandmother (Rosa Gordy b. 12/11/1869, d. 5/13/1900, Delmar, MD [Family Bible records], who my father thought was an orphan, until I found she lost her father (a Gordy), then lost her mother (Mary Nichols) a few years later, AFTER Mary married 2nd a Legates/Lecates. It looks like GGrandmother (Rosa Gordy) went to live with the Lecates/Legates in Census records, while a teenager (perhaps age 13-14), and may have stayed there until her marriage at age 20, to my GGrandfather, George A Waller. Anne WALLER WOODBURY LOMINAC BARRINGER ROPER -----Original Message----- From: EMSCRS@aol.com Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 9:52 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Female DNA testing ONLY POSSIBLE SOURCE I CAN THINK OF WOULD BE THE CEMETERY RECORDS AND/OR THE HUDSON TATNALL LISTING. IF YOU DON'T HAVE THEM, SEND ME THE NAMES AND I WILL LOOK. ELIZABETH In a message dated 1/13/2014 9:21:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lenorah123@comcast.net writes: HI LIZ, JUST TO THROW SPANNERS IN THE WORKS A LOT OF US MD AND DEL DESCENDANTS CAME UP HERE FROM ACCOMACK CO. AS IN MY WESTERHOUSES, TAYLORS, DRISKELLS, AND I THINK MAYBE BYRDS AND LEGATES, TOWNSENDS ETC ETC ETC..... AND DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEAS AS TO WHO MIGHT HAVE THE CHURCH RECORDS FOR MT OLIVET CHURCH ON SNOW HILL ROAD, ALMOST TO SNOW HILL? I WOULD LIKE TO FIND THE CEMETERY RECORDS . SOMEBODY HAS TO KNOW WHAT PLOTS ARE OCCUPIED OR OWNED. MY GGGRANDPARENTS ARE BURIED THERE IN THE BACK AND THE WOOD MARKERS ARE GONE SINCE THE 1920'S OR SO. THEY DISAPPEARED OFF THE CENSUS AFTER 1880. HE WAS SAMPSON C. SHOCKLEY AND I WAS UNABLE TO IDENTIFY HIS PARENTS. IF THERE WERE SHOCKLEYS BURIED IN THE SAME AREA IT MIGHT BE A CLUE. ANY INFO WOULD BE WELCOME. TAKE CARE LIZ AND GOD BLESS, KEEP 'EM STRAIGHT, NORAH HASTINGS COOPER COLLINS -----Original Message----- From: EMSCRS@aol.com Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 7:20 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Female DNA testing Of course, but most of the listmembers are aware that I (or we, if I want to pretend to be royal!) live in Virginia. When referring to my chapter, I only mean one county - Accomack. Should have made myself clearer, but then I would have had to think. Elizabeth In a message dated 1/13/2014 7:16:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, marjea@wildblue.net writes: When you say "We" on LDR you must define it as only VA of Delmarva if that is what you mean--to me MD and some of DE are also Lower Delmarva. Marjorie "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 7:09 PM, <EMSCRS@aol.com> wrote: > Of course, but we did not lose any courthouses (we only have two anyway), > although many churches have burned. The difficulties and frustrations > experienced by those from burned counties are horrific. > > Elizabeth > > > In a message dated 1/13/2014 7:03:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > marjea@wildblue.net writes: > > Elizabeth, but there were court house and church fires even without the > wars. > > Marjorie > "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and > to > play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke > > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 6:55 PM, <EMSCRS@aol.com> wrote: > > > No sense in reading it until someone wants to go that route. Mostly > > everyone here already knows their lines back to Adam and Eve, and we do > > have the > > documentation readily available. Lucky us - missed all the wars, at > least > > in terms of losing records. > > > > Elizabeth > > > > > > In a message dated 1/13/2014 6:49:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > kathlingram45@gmail.com writes: > > > > Elizabeth > > Yes I see the DAR Is doing that. I should read up on it as I am the > > Registrar for my Chapter. Not sure how it would work and only the Y I > > would think, at least for now. > > As you said, still need a man for some things, Y testing is one. > > > > Kathleen Carrow Ingram > > Guild # 6449 > > > > myainfolk.blogspot.com/ > > myainfolkfantofireland.blogspot.com/ > > trees.ancestry.com/tree/52630507/family > > *************************************** > > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > *************************************** > > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? 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HI, FOR WHAT ITS WORTH, BLACKWATER FARM IN HEBRON ON SPRING HILL ROAD IS OWNED BY THE BRADLEYS NOW. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BRANCH ALONG THE ROAD UP TO RTE 54 IS THE PHILLIPS FARM. IF YOU GO WEST ON RT 54 ABOUT A MILE YOU COME TO THE REST OF THE PHILLLIPS FARMS. THERE WERE TWO OR THREE FARMS, ALL PHILLIPS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE MASON DIXON CORNER MARKER. THERE ARE STILL PHILLIPS THERE. THAT MIGHT BE WHERE YOUR PHILLIPS CAME FROM. NORAH -----Original Message----- From: Anne Ramsby Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:07 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] WALLER- NICHOLs name To Terry, Thanks you for the Nichols info. I will try to check it out. I believe there were several groups of Wallers in the Md peninsula that interfaced. First was the original, from Accomack, VA who settled initially around Princess Anne. Then his (William?) sons moved north to obtain their own land. Our family, we think, was a third group, beginning with a Thomas Waller immigrating around 1675 from England, settling in the Nanticoke 100. Their land was east of Mardela and west of Delmar, Blackwater Branch. Family lore is that Waller land was 'split' when the Mason-Dixon line came in, so part was in MD, part in Del. George Alfred, Gen. VII (below), was my Great Grandfather. He migrated to NC around 1907 or so with his logging business. Mt. Zion church I know little about, except that it is probably south of Waller Road. I also found baptism records of a relative in Sharptown. Do you have The Chesapeakers – Waller Descendants from the Old Somerset Co 1654 – 1985 by Charles S. Waller, Sr. 1907--. It covers a lot of Wallers. Below is a part of where I think my line connects into the well-known Wallers, some (or many!), may be yours! Let me know where yours connects!!! It would be great to link our families and share info. Incidentally, we also have a separate Phillips branch--my fathers' mother's family. They settled in North Carolina, had a mill with Barringers around Salisbury, NC. But I am not sure of where they came from before that. ____ V. Richard and Rachel Waller (dau. of Thomas Waller-son of Richard & Ann Cottman Waller) Their Children: Alfred Miller [Elford] Waller b. 11 Apr 1807, Stepney Parish/Quantico, Somerset, Md d. by 8 Jun 1847 m. Elizabeth PHILLIPS 10 Feb 1831 [Del. Marriage record] b. abt.1808 [1870 Census] Esme, b. ante 1816 [signs Patty Ann’s will that year?] m. Sarah. William b. 1821.d.1883 2nd m. Elizabeth Hearn? b: EST 1787 of Stepney Parish, Somerset, Md [need marriage date/record] Their children: Rachel b. 1823 d. 1893, m. L.R Dorman. Julia Ann b. 1/9/1825 d. 12/6/1895. m. George W.D.Waller, cousin. Amanda b. est 1827-29 Adaline Waller b. 11/9/1832 d.5/23/1899 never married. James b. 1834. Migrated to Texas VI. Alfred [Miller] Waller and Elizabeth (“Betsy”) Waller Their Children: Richard - b. 1832 Mary E. - b 1837 Leah A - b. 1839 Joseph and Benjamin (twins) b. 1841/2? m. Matilda B. Venables - b. 1848, m.12/17/18/1866. Elnora - b 1845. In 1990, my sister Becky & her father, George R Waller, Jr, found a tombstone of an Elnora A. Waller, b. April 1843, d. Oct 1918, along Waller Rd to the So, Delmar, MD. VII. Benjamin Waller and Matilda B. Venables [1880 Census Wicomico Cty, MD lists family pg 361] Their Children: George Alfred - b. 4/1/1869 m. Rosa E. Gordy m. 11/12/1889; b. 12/11/1869, d. 5/13/1900, Delmar, MD [Family Bible records] Edith May – b. 1871, m. M.A. Mills, had a store in DelMar, DE; had a Scrapple Factory (source: Lucille Matthews Waller—our great aunt). Betland W. - b. 1873. (Ballard on 1880 Census) William R. - b. 1875. Roxina E. - b. 1877. Joseph B. – b. July 1879 m. Lola Mary E. - b. 1882 Elizabeth M.– b.1883, d.8/31/1945; m. William B. Mills Ethyl (Ethel) L.– b. Dec. 1887, m. Harry F. Roberts, Queenstown, MD. Ella – m. Phillips; m.2nd Earnest Moore, Baltimore, MD. Anne -----Original Message----- From: Terry Phillips-Seitz Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 6:54 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] NICHOLs name Anne- Could you tell me/us more about where Mt. Zion & your Waller ancestors were from? I am curious for several reasons, principally because Waller is the dominant ancestral thread among my antecedents. This is a little unusual because I have to go back to my great grandmother to find the most recent one, but I have Wallers marrying multiple times among 3/4 of my grandparents' families. Most of my grandparents' families came from the area between Mardela Springs, MD, Sharptown, MD, Delmar, DE & Laurel, DE, but I can't think of a Mt. Zion ME church in that area. As to the Nichols family, I have a great grandmother who was Theresa Nichols (1823 - 1903). Until this summer I couldn't find out anything about her ancestors and, in fact, still do not know with certainty. I did meet, however, Rob Nichols via Ancestry.com, who told me that his family of Nichols came from the Portsville, DE/ Bethel, DE area and that there are many still living in those towns & surroundings. He went on to tell me that an older member of his family told him that their "family homestead" was just outside of Sharptown, barely in Delaware (the area is known locally as Ellis Grove). This led to my supposition that my Theresa Nichols was a sister to the Nichols patriarch, Jonathan A Nichols (1829 - 1905). She married Joseph H Ellis, who lived within 1 - 2 miles of the Nichols homestead, and they raised their family in that community, as well. While the relationship is not certain, the fact that they were born within two years of each other at a time when the population of the area was not so great is enough for me to use this as a working assumption. So... I realize that my Nichols story isn't likely to be relevant to yours, but I thought the additional info about the Nichols family in the area might be useful. Please don't forget to tell me about Mt. Zion & your Wallers. Regards, Terry Phillips-Seitz tbphillips@verizon.net -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anne Ramsby Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 12:37 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDR] NICHOLs name To Bob Nichol: My Ggrandfather, George A. Waller, married Rosa Gordy m. 11/12/1889 by Rev. C.S. Baker at Mt. Zion M.E.Church. Rosa was the daughter of Minos B. Gordy and his wife Mary A. Nichols, who married in Worcester Co., Md. Just wondered whether we have any connections; if yes, what kind of light can you shed on that branch of the Nichols family? 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Spelling here has always been an exercise in creativity, particularly since many people were illiterate, and those who were doing the writing for them were not as literate as they thought they were. Elizabeth In a message dated 1/14/2014 8:37:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, amramsby@gmail.com writes: Do you know whether Legates has been seen as Lecates? I have a Ggrandmother (Rosa Gordy b. 12/11/1869, d. 5/13/1900, Delmar, MD [Family Bible records], who my father thought was an orphan, until I found she lost her father (a Gordy), then lost her mother (Mary Nichols) a few years later, AFTER Mary married 2nd a Legates/Lecates. It looks like GGrandmother (Rosa Gordy) went to live with the Lecates/Legates in Census records, while a teenager (perhaps age 13-14), and may have stayed there until her marriage at age 20, to my GGrandfather, George A Waller. Anne WALLER WOODBURY LOMINAC BARRINGER ROPER -----Original Message----- From: EMSCRS@aol.com Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 9:52 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Female DNA testing ONLY POSSIBLE SOURCE I CAN THINK OF WOULD BE THE CEMETERY RECORDS AND/OR THE HUDSON TATNALL LISTING. IF YOU DON'T HAVE THEM, SEND ME THE NAMES AND I WILL LOOK. ELIZABETH In a message dated 1/13/2014 9:21:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lenorah123@comcast.net writes: HI LIZ, JUST TO THROW SPANNERS IN THE WORKS A LOT OF US MD AND DEL DESCENDANTS CAME UP HERE FROM ACCOMACK CO. AS IN MY WESTERHOUSES, TAYLORS, DRISKELLS, AND I THINK MAYBE BYRDS AND LEGATES, TOWNSENDS ETC ETC ETC..... AND DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEAS AS TO WHO MIGHT HAVE THE CHURCH RECORDS FOR MT OLIVET CHURCH ON SNOW HILL ROAD, ALMOST TO SNOW HILL? I WOULD LIKE TO FIND THE CEMETERY RECORDS . SOMEBODY HAS TO KNOW WHAT PLOTS ARE OCCUPIED OR OWNED. MY GGGRANDPARENTS ARE BURIED THERE IN THE BACK AND THE WOOD MARKERS ARE GONE SINCE THE 1920'S OR SO. THEY DISAPPEARED OFF THE CENSUS AFTER 1880. HE WAS SAMPSON C. SHOCKLEY AND I WAS UNABLE TO IDENTIFY HIS PARENTS. IF THERE WERE SHOCKLEYS BURIED IN THE SAME AREA IT MIGHT BE A CLUE. ANY INFO WOULD BE WELCOME. TAKE CARE LIZ AND GOD BLESS, KEEP 'EM STRAIGHT, NORAH HASTINGS COOPER COLLINS -----Original Message----- From: EMSCRS@aol.com Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 7:20 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Female DNA testing Of course, but most of the listmembers are aware that I (or we, if I want to pretend to be royal!) live in Virginia. When referring to my chapter, I only mean one county - Accomack. Should have made myself clearer, but then I would have had to think. Elizabeth In a message dated 1/13/2014 7:16:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, marjea@wildblue.net writes: When you say "We" on LDR you must define it as only VA of Delmarva if that is what you mean--to me MD and some of DE are also Lower Delmarva. Marjorie "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 7:09 PM, <EMSCRS@aol.com> wrote: > Of course, but we did not lose any courthouses (we only have two anyway), > although many churches have burned. The difficulties and frustrations > experienced by those from burned counties are horrific. > > Elizabeth > > > In a message dated 1/13/2014 7:03:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > marjea@wildblue.net writes: > > Elizabeth, but there were court house and church fires even without the > wars. > > Marjorie > "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and > to > play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke > > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 6:55 PM, <EMSCRS@aol.com> wrote: > > > No sense in reading it until someone wants to go that route. Mostly > > everyone here already knows their lines back to Adam and Eve, and we do > > have the > > documentation readily available. Lucky us - missed all the wars, at > least > > in terms of losing records. > > > > Elizabeth > > > > > > In a message dated 1/13/2014 6:49:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > kathlingram45@gmail.com writes: > > > > Elizabeth > > Yes I see the DAR Is doing that. I should read up on it as I am the > > Registrar for my Chapter. 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Do you know whether Legates has been seen as Lecates? I have a Ggrandmother (Rosa Gordy b. 12/11/1869, d. 5/13/1900, Delmar, MD [Family Bible records], who my father thought was an orphan, until I found she lost her father (a Gordy), then lost her mother (Mary Nichols) a few years later, AFTER Mary married 2nd a Legates/Lecates. It looks like GGrandmother (Rosa Gordy) went to live with the Lecates/Legates in Census records, while a teenager (perhaps age 13-14), and may have stayed there until her marriage at age 20, to my GGrandfather, George A Waller. Anne WALLER WOODBURY LOMINAC BARRINGER ROPER -----Original Message----- From: EMSCRS@aol.com Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 9:52 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Female DNA testing ONLY POSSIBLE SOURCE I CAN THINK OF WOULD BE THE CEMETERY RECORDS AND/OR THE HUDSON TATNALL LISTING. IF YOU DON'T HAVE THEM, SEND ME THE NAMES AND I WILL LOOK. ELIZABETH In a message dated 1/13/2014 9:21:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lenorah123@comcast.net writes: HI LIZ, JUST TO THROW SPANNERS IN THE WORKS A LOT OF US MD AND DEL DESCENDANTS CAME UP HERE FROM ACCOMACK CO. AS IN MY WESTERHOUSES, TAYLORS, DRISKELLS, AND I THINK MAYBE BYRDS AND LEGATES, TOWNSENDS ETC ETC ETC..... AND DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEAS AS TO WHO MIGHT HAVE THE CHURCH RECORDS FOR MT OLIVET CHURCH ON SNOW HILL ROAD, ALMOST TO SNOW HILL? I WOULD LIKE TO FIND THE CEMETERY RECORDS . SOMEBODY HAS TO KNOW WHAT PLOTS ARE OCCUPIED OR OWNED. MY GGGRANDPARENTS ARE BURIED THERE IN THE BACK AND THE WOOD MARKERS ARE GONE SINCE THE 1920'S OR SO. THEY DISAPPEARED OFF THE CENSUS AFTER 1880. HE WAS SAMPSON C. SHOCKLEY AND I WAS UNABLE TO IDENTIFY HIS PARENTS. IF THERE WERE SHOCKLEYS BURIED IN THE SAME AREA IT MIGHT BE A CLUE. ANY INFO WOULD BE WELCOME. TAKE CARE LIZ AND GOD BLESS, KEEP 'EM STRAIGHT, NORAH HASTINGS COOPER COLLINS -----Original Message----- From: EMSCRS@aol.com Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 7:20 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Female DNA testing Of course, but most of the listmembers are aware that I (or we, if I want to pretend to be royal!) live in Virginia. When referring to my chapter, I only mean one county - Accomack. Should have made myself clearer, but then I would have had to think. Elizabeth In a message dated 1/13/2014 7:16:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, marjea@wildblue.net writes: When you say "We" on LDR you must define it as only VA of Delmarva if that is what you mean--to me MD and some of DE are also Lower Delmarva. Marjorie "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 7:09 PM, <EMSCRS@aol.com> wrote: > Of course, but we did not lose any courthouses (we only have two anyway), > although many churches have burned. The difficulties and frustrations > experienced by those from burned counties are horrific. > > Elizabeth > > > In a message dated 1/13/2014 7:03:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > marjea@wildblue.net writes: > > Elizabeth, but there were court house and church fires even without the > wars. > > Marjorie > "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and > to > play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke > > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 6:55 PM, <EMSCRS@aol.com> wrote: > > > No sense in reading it until someone wants to go that route. Mostly > > everyone here already knows their lines back to Adam and Eve, and we do > > have the > > documentation readily available. Lucky us - missed all the wars, at > least > > in terms of losing records. > > > > Elizabeth > > > > > > In a message dated 1/13/2014 6:49:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > kathlingram45@gmail.com writes: > > > > Elizabeth > > Yes I see the DAR Is doing that. I should read up on it as I am the > > Registrar for my Chapter. Not sure how it would work and only the Y I > > would think, at least for now. > > As you said, still need a man for some things, Y testing is one. > > > > Kathleen Carrow Ingram > > Guild # 6449 > > > > myainfolk.blogspot.com/ > > myainfolkfantofireland.blogspot.com/ > > trees.ancestry.com/tree/52630507/family > > *************************************** > > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > *************************************** > > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? 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To Terry, Thanks you for the Nichols info. I will try to check it out. I believe there were several groups of Wallers in the Md peninsula that interfaced. First was the original, from Accomack, VA who settled initially around Princess Anne. Then his (William?) sons moved north to obtain their own land. Our family, we think, was a third group, beginning with a Thomas Waller immigrating around 1675 from England, settling in the Nanticoke 100. Their land was east of Mardela and west of Delmar, Blackwater Branch. Family lore is that Waller land was 'split' when the Mason-Dixon line came in, so part was in MD, part in Del. George Alfred, Gen. VII (below), was my Great Grandfather. He migrated to NC around 1907 or so with his logging business. Mt. Zion church I know little about, except that it is probably south of Waller Road. I also found baptism records of a relative in Sharptown. Do you have The Chesapeakers – Waller Descendants from the Old Somerset Co 1654 – 1985 by Charles S. Waller, Sr. 1907--. It covers a lot of Wallers. Below is a part of where I think my line connects into the well-known Wallers, some (or many!), may be yours! Let me know where yours connects!!! It would be great to link our families and share info. Incidentally, we also have a separate Phillips branch--my fathers' mother's family. They settled in North Carolina, had a mill with Barringers around Salisbury, NC. But I am not sure of where they came from before that. ____ V. Richard and Rachel Waller (dau. of Thomas Waller-son of Richard & Ann Cottman Waller) Their Children: Alfred Miller [Elford] Waller b. 11 Apr 1807, Stepney Parish/Quantico, Somerset, Md d. by 8 Jun 1847 m. Elizabeth PHILLIPS 10 Feb 1831 [Del. Marriage record] b. abt.1808 [1870 Census] Esme, b. ante 1816 [signs Patty Ann’s will that year?] m. Sarah. William b. 1821.d.1883 2nd m. Elizabeth Hearn? b: EST 1787 of Stepney Parish, Somerset, Md [need marriage date/record] Their children: Rachel b. 1823 d. 1893, m. L.R Dorman. Julia Ann b. 1/9/1825 d. 12/6/1895. m. George W.D.Waller, cousin. Amanda b. est 1827-29 Adaline Waller b. 11/9/1832 d.5/23/1899 never married. James b. 1834. Migrated to Texas VI. Alfred [Miller] Waller and Elizabeth (“Betsy”) Waller Their Children: Richard - b. 1832 Mary E. - b 1837 Leah A - b. 1839 Joseph and Benjamin (twins) b. 1841/2? m. Matilda B. Venables - b. 1848, m.12/17/18/1866. Elnora - b 1845. In 1990, my sister Becky & her father, George R Waller, Jr, found a tombstone of an Elnora A. Waller, b. April 1843, d. Oct 1918, along Waller Rd to the So, Delmar, MD. VII. Benjamin Waller and Matilda B. Venables [1880 Census Wicomico Cty, MD lists family pg 361] Their Children: George Alfred - b. 4/1/1869 m. Rosa E. Gordy m. 11/12/1889; b. 12/11/1869, d. 5/13/1900, Delmar, MD [Family Bible records] Edith May – b. 1871, m. M.A. Mills, had a store in DelMar, DE; had a Scrapple Factory (source: Lucille Matthews Waller—our great aunt). Betland W. - b. 1873. (Ballard on 1880 Census) William R. - b. 1875. Roxina E. - b. 1877. Joseph B. – b. July 1879 m. Lola Mary E. - b. 1882 Elizabeth M.– b.1883, d.8/31/1945; m. William B. Mills Ethyl (Ethel) L.– b. Dec. 1887, m. Harry F. Roberts, Queenstown, MD. Ella – m. Phillips; m.2nd Earnest Moore, Baltimore, MD. Anne -----Original Message----- From: Terry Phillips-Seitz Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 6:54 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] NICHOLs name Anne- Could you tell me/us more about where Mt. Zion & your Waller ancestors were from? I am curious for several reasons, principally because Waller is the dominant ancestral thread among my antecedents. This is a little unusual because I have to go back to my great grandmother to find the most recent one, but I have Wallers marrying multiple times among 3/4 of my grandparents' families. Most of my grandparents' families came from the area between Mardela Springs, MD, Sharptown, MD, Delmar, DE & Laurel, DE, but I can't think of a Mt. Zion ME church in that area. As to the Nichols family, I have a great grandmother who was Theresa Nichols (1823 - 1903). Until this summer I couldn't find out anything about her ancestors and, in fact, still do not know with certainty. I did meet, however, Rob Nichols via Ancestry.com, who told me that his family of Nichols came from the Portsville, DE/ Bethel, DE area and that there are many still living in those towns & surroundings. He went on to tell me that an older member of his family told him that their "family homestead" was just outside of Sharptown, barely in Delaware (the area is known locally as Ellis Grove). This led to my supposition that my Theresa Nichols was a sister to the Nichols patriarch, Jonathan A Nichols (1829 - 1905). She married Joseph H Ellis, who lived within 1 - 2 miles of the Nichols homestead, and they raised their family in that community, as well. While the relationship is not certain, the fact that they were born within two years of each other at a time when the population of the area was not so great is enough for me to use this as a working assumption. So... I realize that my Nichols story isn't likely to be relevant to yours, but I thought the additional info about the Nichols family in the area might be useful. Please don't forget to tell me about Mt. Zion & your Wallers. Regards, Terry Phillips-Seitz tbphillips@verizon.net -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anne Ramsby Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 12:37 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDR] NICHOLs name To Bob Nichol: My Ggrandfather, George A. Waller, married Rosa Gordy m. 11/12/1889 by Rev. C.S. Baker at Mt. Zion M.E.Church. Rosa was the daughter of Minos B. Gordy and his wife Mary A. Nichols, who married in Worcester Co., Md. Just wondered whether we have any connections; if yes, what kind of light can you shed on that branch of the Nichols family? Thanks, Anne [Waller] Ramsby Family Geneologist *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? 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Barbara, for a female you have two choices. 1) mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) follows the females (you, your mother, your mother's mother, your mother's mother's mother etc.) 2) or an autosomal DNA test (atDNA) which you would need because you are looking for information including your male and female lines. The atDNA will tell you the percentage of possibility one of your 32 gggrandparents might be part of a general population. For example it could say this specific gggrandmother has a POSSIBILITY (just as all your other 32 gggrandparents do) of being, say eastern european, or asian, or from the British Isles, somewhere. It can't tell you WHICH EXACT gggrandparent was African or northern european, and it can't be as specific as saying any of them were Polish or Irish or Iranian. Your result would be the "probability" of general ethnic background. For example, Every one of your 32 gggrandparents share the probability of being, say for example: 20% eastern european, 30% asian 40% African and 10% south asian. You won't know how that ethnicity was distributed among your ancestors, or which line carried what DNA. Because each company uses different factors to generalize the statistics you will get different ethnicity percentages from different companies. They take a lot of factors into consideration and change their procedures as new technology develops. One person for example, who knew he had lots of Irish blood was first told he was only 10% "Northern European" and then the very same company reran his results and told him with their new process they could say he was 40% "Irish and/or British Isles". (percentages approximate form memory). But the atDNA test can't specify your specific gggrandmother was from a certain area. Ethnicity is interesting to scientists who are looking at ancient migration patterns. They can see how a specific gene mutation traveled from Turkey to India and back to Scandinavia thousands of years ago, for example. One of the basic issues is, of course, just to use one example: the Irish, are a fundamentally mediterranean people who were infiltrated by northern european Celts and Scandinavian Vikings and Germanic genes thousands of years ago... just to mention a few elements to their ethnicity. So, your Irish ancestors would show origins from all these ethnic groups. JD

Thanks, Kathleen. I'm enjoying reading your posts and very much appreciate your information and insights. I had a great time reviewing my 'Countries of Ancestry' and learning my maternal haplogroup (H). Fascinating! Not much of the information was surprising - but I wish I'd had more responses when I asked for connections. Oh well. :-) I'm still hoping that I come across a family tree that's been updated, or a Google search that finally strikes gold, where I learn more about Hetty Russell. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathleen Ingram <kathlingram45@gmail.com> To: LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 19:24:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: [LDR] • •Re: Test kits Laura My point with that was that with large chunks of your genome ( like your parent) or some exotic different gene pool ( Asian) you could see the ethnic identity possibly. With a great grandparent it is doubtful to "See" it.. BUT you WILL get lots of cousins matches and many of them will know that ancestry even if you do not. My Norway grandfather was born North of the Arctic Circle in Saami ( Lapland) territory. Early on "outside" or 3rd party researchers told me that it was Siberian Tribal which is more or less what it is. The main companies call it "unassigned Northern European" because it looks different from Scandinavia but still looks similar to other Baltic countries. That is both for my sister and myself. Kathleen Carrow Ingram Guild # 6449 myainfolk.blogspot.com/ myainfolkfantofireland.blogspot.com/ trees.ancestry.com/tree/52630507/family *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

UNFORTUNATELY JEAN, THERE ARE HUNDRES IF NOT THOUSANDS OF MT OLIVET CHURCHES. THE ONE I AM AFTER IS IN WORCESTER COUNTY NEAR SNOW HILL. THANKS ANYWAY. GOD BLESS, NORAH -----Original Message----- From: Jean Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:33 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Mt Olivet Church, near Snow Hill, Maryland There are 14 Shockley names in the Mt Olivet Cemetery in Talbott County at Findagrave.com. On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 1:47 PM, <tarantulac@aol.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Norah! > I've been to the cemetery at Mt. Olivet Church, which is outside of Snow > Hill, near the Coulbourne District (both and west of Snow Hill). My > PopPop's infant sister is buried in that cemetery so I cruised down last > fall for a look. I only know that she is buried there because it was > recorded on her death certificate. > It is a lovely small church, located on Mt Olive Church Road, just off of > Route 12. There are several stones that are small with no inscriptions > that I could discern. There are several other stones, well marked and > readable, with varying dates from the 1900's and, if memory serves me > right, the late 1800's. > I contacted the pastor and spoke with his wife. There are some cemetery > records but they have apparently walked away or been misfiled or mislaid. > So basically what you see in the cemetery is what you get. > I don't know if anyone has ever walked the cemetery and transcribed the > stones that are legible. > I believe there were some Shockley's buried there but who and when, I do > not recall. > > > Teresa Derrickson > nee Chandler > > ------------------------------ > > > > > In a message dated 1/13/2014 9:21:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > lenorah123@comcast.net writes: > > HI LIZ, > JUST TO THROW SPANNERS IN THE WORKS A LOT OF US MD AND DEL DESCENDANTS > CAME > UP HERE FROM ACCOMACK CO. AS IN MY WESTERHOUSES, TAYLORS, DRISKELLS, > AND > I > THINK MAYBE BYRDS AND LEGATES, TOWNSENDS ETC ETC ETC..... AND DOES > ANYONE > HAVE ANY IDEAS AS TO WHO MIGHT HAVE THE CHURCH RECORDS FOR MT OLIVET > CHURCH > ON SNOW HILL ROAD, ALMOST TO SNOW HILL? I WOULD LIKE TO FIND THE > CEMETERY > RECORDS . SOMEBODY HAS TO KNOW WHAT PLOTS ARE OCCUPIED OR OWNED. MY > GGGRANDPARENTS ARE BURIED THERE IN THE BACK AND THE WOOD MARKERS ARE GONE > SINCE THE 1920'S OR SO. THEY DISAPPEARED OFF THE CENSUS AFTER 1880. HE > WAS > SAMPSON C. SHOCKLEY AND I WAS UNABLE TO IDENTIFY HIS PARENTS. IF THERE > WERE > SHOCKLEYS BURIED IN THE SAME AREA IT MIGHT BE A CLUE. ANY INFO WOULD BE > WELCOME. > > TAKE CARE LIZ AND GOD BLESS, > KEEP 'EM STRAIGHT, > > NORAH HASTINGS COOPER COLLINS > > > > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, As someone new to home DNA testing, I was intrigued by the information I received from 23andme. I was very much hoping to locate living relatives and connect with them so we could share our information and family trees - I had posted mine from Ancestry on the 23 site. I think my experience with the 23andme site is fairly typical of most users - you're thrilled to see so many relative matches but then cannot get most to respond to a request for contact. Becasuse the saying goes that everyone on the lower Shore is related to everyone else, I really had hoped that there were a lot of Delmarva folks signing up for the 23andme site and I'd have tons of connections to pursue. *Sigh* Next, I downloaded my entire mtDNA file and uploaded it to gedmatch. More great information there. I do think I've received more responses just from reaching out to people on Ancestry.com - while searching for a name, I'd run across someone's tree who had entire levels of family information that they were happy to not only share, but talk about. I've pursued several family connections this way, as well as sharing old family photos. My primary family names are Graham, Majors and Russell (all Mardela Springs) on my maternal side, and Dryden on my paternal side (Pocomoke, Crisfield). I've tried to get back further than my 3rd ggmother, Hetty Russell, but to no avail. As a woman, I am very interested in my maternal line. If anyone wants to correspond, I would welcome the emails! Cheers, Laura ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathleen Ingram <kathlingram45@gmail.com> To: LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 15:12:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: [LDR] •Re: Test kits Patricia Before you decide what test you want to test your maternal side, ask yourself what you want to learn from the test. Your mother's mtDNA itself will NOT tell you a whole lot genealogically. MtDNA as many know is very deep ancestry. I have tested the whole thing which is called FGS ( Full genome sequence) and I know what I knew going into that test..that my oldest female to female to female only line goes to Cork c. 1840. I do know now one other family who matches me exactly BUT we are NOT cousin in genealogical time. We know THAT because we have tested ( each family) 10-12 of us with little to no "cousin matches". I f you do NOT really care to know your mother's mtDNA haplogroup then since you have already tested at Family Tree DNA I would test the Family Finder. You would then get a great deal of cousin matches back and can put some things together from that. If you DID want to know your mtDNA ( Which is the same as your mother's) as well as testing Family Finder then the cheapest test is that from 23andme. It will show Y DNA and mtDNA and autosomal matches ( at least twice as many as FTDNA) for the same $99. I have tested 13 of my family there. I will tell you that some of those kits I got for free from the very nice many who shares my mtDNA AND the fact that I was a Beta Tester there over 4 years ago. A great test and no, they are not in danger of not being in the business, just under FDNAscrutiny for the health part. There is also AncestryDNA which again only tests the autosomal part for that $99. ( I just went and double checked my cousins to be sure) My feeling is that 23andme is #1 and FTDNA is #2 best test. FTDNA is trying really hard to do just as well and doing a good job. You can always e-mail me privately with questions.. Kathleen Carrow Ingram Guild # 6449 myainfolk.blogspot.com/ myainfolkfantofireland.blogspot.com/ trees.ancestry.com/tree/52630507/family *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Patricia Before you decide what test you want to test your maternal side, ask yourself what you want to learn from the test. Your mother's mtDNA itself will NOT tell you a whole lot genealogically. MtDNA as many know is very deep ancestry. I have tested the whole thing which is called FGS ( Full genome sequence) and I know what I knew going into that test..that my oldest female to female to female only line goes to Cork c. 1840. I do know now one other family who matches me exactly BUT we are NOT cousin in genealogical time. We know THAT because we have tested ( each family) 10-12 of us with little to no "cousin matches". I f you do NOT really care to know your mother's mtDNA haplogroup then since you have already tested at Family Tree DNA I would test the Family Finder. You would then get a great deal of cousin matches back and can put some things together from that. If you DID want to know your mtDNA ( Which is the same as your mother's) as well as testing Family Finder then the cheapest test is that from 23andme. It will show Y DNA and mtDNA and autosomal matches ( at least twice as many as FTDNA) for the same $99. I have tested 13 of my family there. I will tell you that some of those kits I got for free from the very nice many who shares my mtDNA AND the fact that I was a Beta Tester there over 4 years ago. A great test and no, they are not in danger of not being in the business, just under FDNAscrutiny for the health part. There is also AncestryDNA which again only tests the autosomal part for that $99. ( I just went and double checked my cousins to be sure) My feeling is that 23andme is #1 and FTDNA is #2 best test. FTDNA is trying really hard to do just as well and doing a good job. You can always e-mail me privately with questions.. Kathleen Carrow Ingram Guild # 6449 myainfolk.blogspot.com/ myainfolkfantofireland.blogspot.com/ trees.ancestry.com/tree/52630507/family