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    1. Re: [LDR] Miltary Bounty Lands
    2. Jane McDonnell
    3. NORAH, HERE IS THE FAMILYSERACH.ORG DESCRIPTION OF BOUNTY LANDS https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/US_Military_Bounty_Land_Warrants IT SHOWS THAT THE EASTERN PART OF HAMILTON COUNTY DID OVERLAP THE "VIRGINIA MILITARY SURVEY' BOUNTY LANDS IN OHIO. I THINK THERE ARE INCOMPLETE INDEXES IN VARIOUS PLACES. FAMILY SEARCH HAS LINKS TO SOURCES. ANCESTRY HAS RECORDS OF EDSON, WALTER, WILLIAM AND JOSEPH HASTINGS IN THE WAR OF 1812. YOU CAN ORDER COPIES OF THE RECORD AT THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES. HOPE THIS HELPS. I AM JUST LEARNING ABOUT THIS, SO I HAVEN'T TRIED THE INDEXES. JANE

    02/27/2014 11:56:53
    1. Re: [LDR] Miltary Bounty Lands
    2. They also offer some free searches. The War of 1812 pension records are free The Navy and Marine Corps officers 1775-1900 are free Several other records are free also Go to their website, click browse, click all titles and you can see in the list which ones are free. In a message dated 2/27/2014 3:54:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ellis10520@aol.com writes: My Ellis ancestor, Levin C. Ellis originally from Little Creek, Sussex Co., DE, served in the War of 1812 in Capt. John Kollock's Delaware Militia. After the war he moved from DE to North Carolina and resided their until his death in 1879. He applied for and received his pension for Delaware service from North Carolina. He also applied for and received a Bounty Land Warrant in March of 1879. The land was for land that was later patented in Wisconsin. It appears to me that warrant was sold by his heirs to someone who used it in Wisconsin. The important part of this is I received all of his pension files from the National Archives several years ago, so that is a place to look. However, I Recently discovered that Fold3.com had the same pension file, and I was able to download almost 120 scanned pages of it from his War of 1812 Pension file. I had a paid membership to Fold3 at the time which gave me the access to download these. For me, the $49 (I think it was around that much) membership was well worth it. They may offer free searches to see if there is anything out there for your relative, maybe worth checking it out. Good luck. -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of lenorah123@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:25 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Miltary Bounty Lands HI ALL, JUST A QUESTION ABOUT BOUNTY LAND FOR DELAWARE. A LOT OF MY HASTINGS WERE LISTED IN THE WAR OF 1812. ONE, IN PARTICULAR, ELIJAH HASTINGS SR, WAS IN OHIO BY 1830. WHEN I LOOKED HIM UP IN THE CENSUS IT SEEMED LIKE ALOT OF DELAWARIANS WERE IN HAMILTON CO., OHIO. DO YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE ANY RECORDS OF WHO FROM DELAWARE RECEIVED BOUNTY LANDS? NOW WE LIVE IN PA I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START LOOKING. THANKS FOR ANY HELP, GOD BLESS NORAH HASTINGS COLLINS -----Original Message----- From: lindat06@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 9:06 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDR] Miltary Bounty Lands I'll just put in a comment that Christine Rose's book, Military Bounty Land 1776-1855, really helped me sort out some of why who ended where, for example, the Ohio Military District. She discusses the federal lands, the state ones or lack thereof, gives lots of finding aids, etc. Obviously, this covers the War of 1812, too. *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/27/2014 10:56:53
    1. Re: [LDR] Miltary Bounty Lands
    2. Grady Ellis
    3. My Ellis ancestor, Levin C. Ellis originally from Little Creek, Sussex Co., DE, served in the War of 1812 in Capt. John Kollock's Delaware Militia. After the war he moved from DE to North Carolina and resided their until his death in 1879. He applied for and received his pension for Delaware service from North Carolina. He also applied for and received a Bounty Land Warrant in March of 1879. The land was for land that was later patented in Wisconsin. It appears to me that warrant was sold by his heirs to someone who used it in Wisconsin. The important part of this is I received all of his pension files from the National Archives several years ago, so that is a place to look. However, I Recently discovered that Fold3.com had the same pension file, and I was able to download almost 120 scanned pages of it from his War of 1812 Pension file. I had a paid membership to Fold3 at the time which gave me the access to download these. For me, the $49 (I think it was around that much) membership was well worth it. They may offer free searches to see if there is anything out there for your relative, maybe worth checking it out. Good luck. -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of lenorah123@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:25 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Miltary Bounty Lands HI ALL, JUST A QUESTION ABOUT BOUNTY LAND FOR DELAWARE. A LOT OF MY HASTINGS WERE LISTED IN THE WAR OF 1812. ONE, IN PARTICULAR, ELIJAH HASTINGS SR, WAS IN OHIO BY 1830. WHEN I LOOKED HIM UP IN THE CENSUS IT SEEMED LIKE ALOT OF DELAWARIANS WERE IN HAMILTON CO., OHIO. DO YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE ANY RECORDS OF WHO FROM DELAWARE RECEIVED BOUNTY LANDS? NOW WE LIVE IN PA I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START LOOKING. THANKS FOR ANY HELP, GOD BLESS NORAH HASTINGS COLLINS -----Original Message----- From: lindat06@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 9:06 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDR] Miltary Bounty Lands I'll just put in a comment that Christine Rose's book, Military Bounty Land 1776-1855, really helped me sort out some of why who ended where, for example, the Ohio Military District. She discusses the federal lands, the state ones or lack thereof, gives lots of finding aids, etc. Obviously, this covers the War of 1812, too. *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/27/2014 08:54:15
    1. Re: [LDR] Snow Hill-Georgetown Connection
    2. Mike Adkins
    3. Thanks to everyone who replied to my question. I have noticed the connection while researching the original records of my family & being familiar with family names of the surrounding Snow Hill area. I have a WORCESTER CO. MD LAND RECORD of a bill of sale in 1786, whereas a father, (Benjamin Butler SR), is selling all his belongings to his son, Benjamin Butler Jr. Ben Jr, who is now residing in Georgetown. I've researched this family extensively & noticed other family names from Snow Hill as well showing up in the records & namings of the area in Georgetown. I know GAT, who wrote the Entailed Hat, his family was from Snow Hill. I know the McCalley's where from Snow Hill & show up in Georgetown. I'm sure their are others I'm unaware of. My question is derived from my research of records & familiarity of the area & the people. I also am from the area & know the area well. I don't look at other trees, I have no concern how someone else arrived at their information. I enjoy researching & learning about my family & others of the area from original records. Phooey with all the trees online!! Yep, it could be the wrong info initially, bastardized as its copied, over and over and over again! My time has more value than that! Again, thanks to all who answered. Just a kind of an, "ain't it more than coincidence" type of question, for a slow list, in the dead, of the cold winter. Thanks again, Mike Adkins On 2/27/2014 8:51 AM, Frostfreedet@aol.com wrote: > Bounty Land was a 'signing bonus' for those who enlisted in the Continental > Army for 3 years or for the duration of the War, and who served out their > enlistment time. In a few instances Bounty Land was also offered to > enlistees in State Troops. Each State was obligated to provide the land from > what was within its jurisdiction -- during the War, some states had no idea > where this would be. There were years of negotiations in Congress about how > to allocate lands from such States as had no vacant land to offer. > Maryland's bounty land was in the far West of the state. Delaware's very few > entitlements ended up being in the 'Donation lands' of present-day NW > Pennsylvania. Most soldiers sold their Bounty Land Warrants instead of settling on > the allocated or prospective land. > > So Bounty Land had nothing to do with movements within DelMarVA. > > Delaware's inheritance law included that for intestate estates, the eldest > son got a double share of any land that was to be inherited. It only takes > brief exploration of Orphans Court proceedings to see this in action. > This was in effect in the 1700s and into the 1800s -- I do not know when, if > ever, this was changed by law. > > In Maryland, the widow's dower was sometimes observed under common law, but > it was not until a lawsuit in the 1820s that it was backed up by court > case law. > > Back to the Snow Hill - Georgetown connection. Those who do "research" in > trees should be aware that many treebies have done no land-records > research whatever, and many have little sense of people's residences outside of > towns. Thus many such genealogies attribute residences to Snow Hill or to > Georgetown because these are the only place-names known to the tree owner > (assuming that their trees were not the copy-of-copy-of-copy of GEDCOM file > seen so often). I have seen this type of mistake in trees purporting to be > about several of my own family lines. > > So the wisest policy is to do the specific land-records and tax lists > research to establish residences. > > Good hunting, > Judy > > *********************************************************** > > Kathleen Ingram writes: > > I think there is more than one motivator in each family. After the > Revolution the Bounty lands would have been attractive. Delaware did > not have primogeniture land inheritance like Maryland did.The oldest > son got 2 shares and each child got a share. The wife's dower could > not be given away or sold.I think it was called multigeniture and the > double share ?was done away with after the Revolution as was the legal > ?primogeniture at that time. Maryland in 1785. > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/27/2014 08:48:25
    1. [LDR] Miltary Bounty Lands
    2. I'll just put in a comment that Christine Rose's book, Military Bounty Land 1776-1855, really helped me sort out some of why who ended where, for example, the Ohio Military District. She discusses the federal lands, the state ones or lack thereof, gives lots of finding aids, etc. Obviously, this covers the War of 1812, too.

    02/27/2014 07:06:52
    1. [LDR] Baltimore Town ?
    2. On the 1868 Beer Atlas there is a community (really just an intersection) know as Baltimore. It has also been know as Baltimore Mills. There was a mill there maybe two. Buried in the sand, you can still see part of the foundation. Today that would be known as Omar (just east of Frankford). It would be along the road between Roxana (then known as Centerville) and Dagsboro. In one of William Fasset (note spelling) patent records for a tract named Second Adventure in 1729, it mentions a tract about four miles northward of the mouth of St Martin's River and on the eastward side of Sandy Branch. I can't read all of it so I am not sure as to what dirrection this land flows. Sandy Branch would be only a few miles from the Baltimore I mentioned above. In William Fasset patent for Medow in 1729, I think (not sure) it mentions a creek or branch called Herrin (again this is a guess), There was a Herring branch leading into the Williams Creek (now known as Derrickson Creek) this leads into the Assawoman Bay. There is also a Herring Branch just north of the "Baltimore" mentioned above. Not sure if this helps but maybe a place to look. In a message dated 2/27/2014 7:54:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, dadadata@atlanticbb.net writes: My Fassitt ancestors moved from Occohannock Creek, ESVA, to Somerset County winding up outside of Berlin on the seaside. Maybe following or maybe preceding the notorious Rhodeah Fassitt-John Cropper scandal. In Capt. Wm Fassitts will Ca 1740, he bequeaths property in "Baltimore Town." While this could have been Balto on the Patapsco, then a billage, really, I have always assumed that it was associated with the notional Maryland Baltimore Hundred in Sussex County. Anyone know if this would have been referring to Georgetown or another place now known by a different name? *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/27/2014 05:30:22
    1. Re: [LDR] Snow Hill-Georgetown Connection
    2. Kathleen Ingram
    3. Could be Baltimore Hundred which pops up now and again. .. my 2nd cousin 's maternal line( I do not share his maternal) is Mitchell(Mitcheller) and they settle in the Berlin area Alexander Mitcheller marries Anne Frewin who first marries Edward Surnam. who was an Indian Trader..Both marriages had children whose decendants are still living.. Anne Frewin Surnam/Sirman Mitchell(er) dies in 1687, she comes with Siblings Andrew and Marrian before 1666. Kathleen Carrow Ingram Guild # 6449 myainfolk.blogspot.com/ myainfolkfantofireland.blogspot.com/ trees.ancestry.com/tree/52630507/family On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Cod <dadadata@atlanticbb.net> wrote: > My Fassitt ancestors moved from Occohannock Creek, ESVA, to Somerset County winding up outside of Berlin on the seaside. Maybe following or maybe preceding the notorious Rhodeah Fassitt-John Cropper scandal. > > In Capt. Wm Fassitts will Ca 1740, he bequeaths property in "Baltimore Town." While this could have been Balto on the Patapsco, then a billage, really, I have always assumed that it was associated with the notional Maryland Baltimore Hundred in Sussex County. > > Anyone know if this would have been referring to Georgetown or another place now known by a different name? > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/27/2014 04:40:38
    1. Re: [LDR] Miltary Bounty Lands
    2. HI ALL, JUST A QUESTION ABOUT BOUNTY LAND FOR DELAWARE. A LOT OF MY HASTINGS WERE LISTED IN THE WAR OF 1812. ONE, IN PARTICULAR, ELIJAH HASTINGS SR, WAS IN OHIO BY 1830. WHEN I LOOKED HIM UP IN THE CENSUS IT SEEMED LIKE ALOT OF DELAWARIANS WERE IN HAMILTON CO., OHIO. DO YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE ANY RECORDS OF WHO FROM DELAWARE RECEIVED BOUNTY LANDS? NOW WE LIVE IN PA I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START LOOKING. THANKS FOR ANY HELP, GOD BLESS NORAH HASTINGS COLLINS -----Original Message----- From: lindat06@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 9:06 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDR] Miltary Bounty Lands I'll just put in a comment that Christine Rose's book, Military Bounty Land 1776-1855, really helped me sort out some of why who ended where, for example, the Ohio Military District. She discusses the federal lands, the state ones or lack thereof, gives lots of finding aids, etc. Obviously, this covers the War of 1812, too. *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/27/2014 04:25:05
    1. Re: [LDR] Snow Hill-Georgetown Connection
    2. Kathleen Ingram
    3. Jane That is one I looked at for confirmation before I posted.. I did know about Delaware not practicing primogeniture as it had come up before in my research.Some of my families had tried to subdivide before. Lisa, Jane listed a very good paper on inheritance law in Delaware. I did not mean that people got Bounty lands IN Delaware but many LEFT Delaware for other territories after the Revolution. Delaware itself had no Bounty lands nor did New Jersey or NH. My Revolutionary War ancestor William Keys , I think, sold his land grant as he married in DE where he had moved from Queen Anne MD. He served until 1783 off Charleston SC and came back and had 5 children and then died. Many family narratives describe that migration, for example in 1833 when the "Stars Fell on Alabama" a lot of Delaware families were in their wagons going south. That may have been after the War of 1812 however.Lots of Delaware folks went to the Ohio Territory also and Western territories of many Southern states. Most of my ancestral families ended up in Delaware from Accomac and Northampton County VA although my Carrows,Keys,Sewell,Hinds moved up into Dorchester and Queen Anne and then over the border into DE Coming through Salisbury were: Maloney,Manlove,Edenfield,Sturgis,Townsend. Those that seem to have come right to DE were the Welsh like Jones,Wilds,David,Rees. Some Jones came via MD also and it is still unclear to me where Jon Carrow came from and who they married in 1640-1690 years. Kathleen Carrow Ingram Guild # 6449 myainfolk.blogspot.com/ myainfolkfantofireland.blogspot.com/ trees.ancestry.com/tree/52630507/family

    02/27/2014 03:27:14
    1. Re: [LDR] Snow Hill-Georgetown Connection
    2. marjorie adams
    3. Cod, <In Capt. Wm Fassitts will Ca 1740, he bequeaths property in "Baltimore Town." While this could have been Balto on the Patapsco, then a billage, really, I have always assumed that it was associated with the notional Maryland Baltimore Hundred in Sussex County.> I don't know what you mean by *notional Maryland Baltimore Hundred in Sussex County.* "From Maryland usgenweb: "Baltimore County was formed by 1659. At that time it included parts of (or the whole of) todays: Harford Co., Cecil Co., Frederick Co. & Carroll Co. The original County Seat was at Spesutia Island , it was next located in Joppa Town. As a result of a popular referendum in 1768 (there is a large list of residents signing the petitions, which seems to be about the most complete list of men in the County at the time), the county seat was moved to *Baltimore Town*. When Baltimore was incorporated as a city, the county seat was moved to its present location in Towson. Marjorie "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 7:49 AM, Cod <dadadata@atlanticbb.net> wrote: > My Fassitt ancestors moved from Occohannock Creek, ESVA, to Somerset > County winding up outside of Berlin on the seaside. Maybe following or > maybe preceding the notorious Rhodeah Fassitt-John Cropper scandal. > > In Capt. Wm Fassitts will Ca 1740, he bequeaths property in "Baltimore > Town." While this could have been Balto on the Patapsco, then a billage, > really, I have always assumed that it was associated with the notional > Maryland Baltimore Hundred in Sussex County. > > Anyone know if this would have been referring to Georgetown or another > place now known by a different name? > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/27/2014 03:27:10
    1. Re: [LDR] Snow Hill-Georgetown Connection
    2. Bounty Land was a 'signing bonus' for those who enlisted in the Continental Army for 3 years or for the duration of the War, and who served out their enlistment time. In a few instances Bounty Land was also offered to enlistees in State Troops. Each State was obligated to provide the land from what was within its jurisdiction -- during the War, some states had no idea where this would be. There were years of negotiations in Congress about how to allocate lands from such States as had no vacant land to offer. Maryland's bounty land was in the far West of the state. Delaware's very few entitlements ended up being in the 'Donation lands' of present-day NW Pennsylvania. Most soldiers sold their Bounty Land Warrants instead of settling on the allocated or prospective land. So Bounty Land had nothing to do with movements within DelMarVA. Delaware's inheritance law included that for intestate estates, the eldest son got a double share of any land that was to be inherited. It only takes brief exploration of Orphans Court proceedings to see this in action. This was in effect in the 1700s and into the 1800s -- I do not know when, if ever, this was changed by law. In Maryland, the widow's dower was sometimes observed under common law, but it was not until a lawsuit in the 1820s that it was backed up by court case law. Back to the Snow Hill - Georgetown connection. Those who do "research" in trees should be aware that many treebies have done no land-records research whatever, and many have little sense of people's residences outside of towns. Thus many such genealogies attribute residences to Snow Hill or to Georgetown because these are the only place-names known to the tree owner (assuming that their trees were not the copy-of-copy-of-copy of GEDCOM file seen so often). I have seen this type of mistake in trees purporting to be about several of my own family lines. So the wisest policy is to do the specific land-records and tax lists research to establish residences. Good hunting, Judy *********************************************************** Kathleen Ingram writes: I think there is more than one motivator in each family. After the Revolution the Bounty lands would have been attractive. Delaware did not have primogeniture land inheritance like Maryland did.The oldest son got 2 shares and each child got a share. The wife's dower could not be given away or sold.I think it was called multigeniture and the double share ?was done away with after the Revolution as was the legal ?primogeniture at that time. Maryland in 1785.

    02/27/2014 01:51:14
    1. Re: [LDR] Snow Hill-Georgetown Connection
    2. Lisa Just
    3. The article you cite refers to primogeniture laws kicking in when people died intestate. That makes sense since it would give the courts guidelines on how to divide land if the deceased did not spell it out in his/her will. You have spurred me to do further research on that idea looking at court records. I was just confused about the "double share to oldest son" statement you made, because I have looked at over a hundred probate records in SX, DO, SO, WO & CA records for a project on which I am working, and I can not think of one instance where I saw this idea in practice. That is why I was looking for a citation so I could see it for myself. Thank you, Lisa Just On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 8:55 PM, Jane McDonnell <jdmcdonnell@comcast.net>wrote: > This is all very interesting. There is a paper on inheritance law here: > > http://www.colorado.edu/ibs/eb/alston/econ8534/SectionII/Alston_and_Schapiro,_Inheritance_Laws_Across_Colonies.pdf > > I had never heard about how laws affected inheritance etc. I only knew my > ancestors did in fact, just from reading their wills, bequeath land or > other property to many, if not all, their children, and grandchildren, and > widows received 1/3 dower rights. Delaware has spectacular records in the > wills and orphan courts documents, among others. > > Some of the early well-known families in my lineage who moved into > Somerset MD/Sussex DE are: > PRETTYMAN > BURTON > BOYCE > PARKER > HAZZARD > BARKER > LINGO > ENNIS > > Besides Indian RIver Hundred, Lewes to Gerorgetown, they lived as far west > as Seaford. > > They came from Accomac, Hungars Parish, Manokin, and some were at one time > in Worcester/Snow Hill. Most were pillars of the churches at Lewes, both > St. George and St. Peter's. > > Jane > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/27/2014 01:29:41
    1. [LDR] Snow Hill-Georgetown Connection
    2. Cod
    3. My Fassitt ancestors moved from Occohannock Creek, ESVA, to Somerset County winding up outside of Berlin on the seaside. Maybe following or maybe preceding the notorious Rhodeah Fassitt-John Cropper scandal. In Capt. Wm Fassitts will Ca 1740, he bequeaths property in "Baltimore Town." While this could have been Balto on the Patapsco, then a billage, really, I have always assumed that it was associated with the notional Maryland Baltimore Hundred in Sussex County. Anyone know if this would have been referring to Georgetown or another place now known by a different name?

    02/27/2014 12:49:10
    1. Re: [LDR] Snow Hill-Georgetown Connection
    2. Kathleen and Jane Thank you so much for a new tidbit.  I had been wondering about Delaware inheritance law and you have made all clear.  What are you family lines?  I have Fooks, Hearne, Cannon and may other interrelated families. Thank you, LeeAnn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen Ingram" <kathlingram45@gmail.com> To: LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 5:00:27 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] Snow Hill-Georgetown Connection I think there is more than one motivator in each family. After the Revolution the Bounty lands would have been attractive. Delaware did not have primogeniture land inheritance like Maryland did.The oldest son got 2 shares and each child got a share. The wife's dower could not be given away or sold.I think it was called multigeniture and the double share  was done away with after the Revolution as was the legal  primogeniture at that time. Maryland in 1785. The Southern states had it  primogeniture in intestacy and the  Middle states did not. Even large estates when children married and lived there with their families could get small. My John Carrow and his children lived on the Wilds Plantation as he seems to have been married to Jane ( Wilds) who may have died fairly young.He lives there and is paid fees due him as a family member from annual income. A big place but lots of people were living there. TheDelaware Orphans Court  had to rule on subdividing the land so the Orphans Court Records are important. Religion had some part in it, my Manlove family came roaring out of the Plymouth Colony before 1650 where he seems to have married and had 2 children and into Northampton County  VA. They seem to have been Quakers and Virginia was less tolerant of dissenting religions so in just a few years they are in Somerset CountyMD. He had a lot of land so class seems less important than religious intolerance in both moves. That family also moves into Lower Delaware pretty quickly, about 1695.They marry into landed families and move. Interesting all of this.. multiple reasons surely. Kathleen Kathleen Carrow Ingram Guild # 6449 myainfolk.blogspot.com/ myainfolkfantofireland.blogspot.com/ trees.ancestry.com/tree/52630507/family *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/26/2014 05:34:32
    1. Re: [LDR] Snow Hill-Georgetown Connection
    2. Jane McDonnell
    3. This is all very interesting. There is a paper on inheritance law here: http://www.colorado.edu/ibs/eb/alston/econ8534/SectionII/Alston_and_Schapiro,_Inheritance_Laws_Across_Colonies.pdf I had never heard about how laws affected inheritance etc. I only knew my ancestors did in fact, just from reading their wills, bequeath land or other property to many, if not all, their children, and grandchildren, and widows received 1/3 dower rights. Delaware has spectacular records in the wills and orphan courts documents, among others. Some of the early well-known families in my lineage who moved into Somerset MD/Sussex DE are: PRETTYMAN BURTON BOYCE PARKER HAZZARD BARKER LINGO ENNIS Besides Indian RIver Hundred, Lewes to Gerorgetown, they lived as far west as Seaford. They came from Accomac, Hungars Parish, Manokin, and some were at one time in Worcester/Snow Hill. Most were pillars of the churches at Lewes, both St. George and St. Peter's. Jane

    02/26/2014 04:55:59
    1. Re: [LDR] Snow Hill-Georgetown Connection
    2. Kathleen Ingram
    3. I think there is more than one motivator in each family. After the Revolution the Bounty lands would have been attractive. Delaware did not have primogeniture land inheritance like Maryland did.The oldest son got 2 shares and each child got a share. The wife's dower could not be given away or sold.I think it was called multigeniture and the double share was done away with after the Revolution as was the legal primogeniture at that time. Maryland in 1785. The Southern states had it primogeniture in intestacy and the Middle states did not. Even large estates when children married and lived there with their families could get small. My John Carrow and his children lived on the Wilds Plantation as he seems to have been married to Jane ( Wilds) who may have died fairly young.He lives there and is paid fees due him as a family member from annual income. A big place but lots of people were living there. TheDelaware Orphans Court had to rule on subdividing the land so the Orphans Court Records are important. Religion had some part in it, my Manlove family came roaring out of the Plymouth Colony before 1650 where he seems to have married and had 2 children and into Northampton County VA. They seem to have been Quakers and Virginia was less tolerant of dissenting religions so in just a few years they are in Somerset CountyMD. He had a lot of land so class seems less important than religious intolerance in both moves. That family also moves into Lower Delaware pretty quickly, about 1695.They marry into landed families and move. Interesting all of this.. multiple reasons surely. Kathleen Kathleen Carrow Ingram Guild # 6449 myainfolk.blogspot.com/ myainfolkfantofireland.blogspot.com/ trees.ancestry.com/tree/52630507/family

    02/26/2014 01:00:27
    1. Re: [LDR] Snow Hill-Georgetown Connection
    2. Lisa Just
    3. Could you cite where you found the information about inheritance law in Maryland when oldest son got two shares, etc? And, are you saying some folks moved to Delaware because of Bounty Land Warrants after the Revolution? I'd like to see a citation for that information too. Thank you Lisa Just Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 26, 2014, at 4:34 PM, mithry@comcast.net wrote: > > Kathleen and Jane > Thank you so much for a new tidbit. I had been wondering about Delaware inheritance law and you have made all clear. What are you family lines? I have Fooks, Hearne, Cannon and may other interrelated families. > Thank you, LeeAnn > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kathleen Ingram" <kathlingram45@gmail.com> > To: LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 5:00:27 PM > Subject: Re: [LDR] Snow Hill-Georgetown Connection > > I think there is more than one motivator in each family. After the > Revolution the Bounty lands would have been attractive. Delaware did > not have primogeniture land inheritance like Maryland did.The oldest > son got 2 shares and each child got a share. The wife's dower could > not be given away or sold.I think it was called multigeniture and the > double share was done away with after the Revolution as was the legal > primogeniture at that time. Maryland in 1785. > > The Southern states had it primogeniture in intestacy and the Middle > states did not. > Even large estates when children married and lived there with their > families could get small. > My John Carrow and his children lived on the Wilds Plantation as he > seems to have been married to Jane ( Wilds) who may have died fairly > young.He lives there and is paid fees due him as a family member from > annual income. A big place but lots of people were living there. > TheDelaware Orphans Court had to rule on subdividing the land so the > Orphans Court Records are important. > > Religion had some part in it, my Manlove family came roaring out of > the Plymouth Colony before 1650 where he seems to have married and had > 2 children and into Northampton County VA. They seem to have been > Quakers and Virginia was less tolerant of dissenting religions so in > just a few years they are in Somerset CountyMD. He had a lot of land > so class seems less important than religious intolerance in both > moves. That family also moves into Lower Delaware pretty quickly, > about 1695.They marry into landed families and move. > > Interesting all of this.. multiple reasons surely. > Kathleen > > Kathleen Carrow Ingram > Guild # 6449 > > myainfolk.blogspot.com/ > myainfolkfantofireland.blogspot.com/ > trees.ancestry.com/tree/52630507/family > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/26/2014 10:21:45
    1. Re: [LDR] Snow Hill-Georgetown Connection
    2. Jane McDonnell
    3. Yes, George and Kathleen refer to land as motivation, and I think that is what makes the Maryland/Delaware borderlands so interesting as a family researcher. The land was poor and difficult to get to beyond seacoast. Many of the early settlers sailed north from Accomac because they found the land, which Penn dismissed as settlement material, easy to acquire. They had incentives, which I would like to explore further. My earliest families bought many giant parcels of land in Indian RIver Hundred, enough to support many if not all of the sons. They married closely to other trusted families, and grandchildren were commonly gifted parcels of land as well. It made for a unique, closely knit society. Their power and politics were uniquely intense. When I get some time I will go back to this question of the Snow Hill/Georgetown connection. I am aware of it in general from reading documents, but I'd like to research it formally. My intuition is, from what I have read, religion and class/social group were of particular significance in this particular case. Jane

    02/26/2014 08:04:54
    1. Re: [LDR] Snow Hill-Georgetown Connection Mike Adkins
    2. George Dill
    3. I want to affirm Kathleen's observation about why some of our ancestors migrated to new distant lands; the immigrants to America followed the old European tradition of primogeniture, i.e., the father's will would leave the family land and most of his assets to the oldest son as a way to provide for the continuance of the family name in a life style that the parents had. All of their daughters were supposed to find a husband who had enough land to provide the ability to support a family since they usually could not own land at the time. The second, third and later born sons were left to their own devices to acquire enough land upon which they could support a family. I am the youngest of five children and the youngest of three sons. I grew up in a family that still practiced this tradition and it seemed normal to me until I was in the military service and began to think about what it was that I really wanted to do with my life. Like most traditions there is some merit to to primogeniture and there are some failings to it. We all need to make the best of what we inherit regardless of our gender and birth order. With love in Christ, George D. Dill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen Ingram" <kathlingram45@gmail.com> To: <LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 5:14 AM Subject: Re: [LDR] Snow Hill-Georgetown Connection Mike Adkins > I think that Elizabeth is correct that most movement had to do with > land. They also move from Delaware after the Revolution because it is > even harder there to subdivide land due to the mode of inheritance. > > Kathleen Carrow Ingram > Guild # 6449 > > myainfolk.blogspot.com/ > myainfolkfantofireland.blogspot.com/ > trees.ancestry.com/tree/52630507/family > > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Kathleen Ingram > <kathlingram45@gmail.com> wrote: >> My Townsends starting with William Townsend, Yeoman wife Elizabeth >> Townsend; sons Stephen, Costin, Solomon and Charles Townsend; daus. >> Abigail Townsend and Elizabeth Deputy; son-in-law Silvester Deputy are >> in Sussex County DE long before his death in 1728.. >> This William is born in Morumsco, Somerset, Maryland and his wife >> Elizabeth Costin in Hungers Parish, Somerset, Maryland. >> >> Most of these movements at this time had little to do with being >> Loyalist as that is 2-3 generatiosn into the future..mostly had to do >> with land and marriages. >> Might be better to see what Townsends are still in Somerset at the >> time that you lose track of your ancestor.. >> >> Kathleen Carrow Ingram >> Guild # 6449 >> >> myainfolk.blogspot.com/ >> myainfolkfantofireland.blogspot.com/ >> trees.ancestry.com/tree/52630507/family > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/26/2014 04:28:12
    1. Re: [LDR] Snow Hill-Georgetown Connection Mike Adkins
    2. Kathleen Ingram
    3. I think that Elizabeth is correct that most movement had to do with land. They also move from Delaware after the Revolution because it is even harder there to subdivide land due to the mode of inheritance. Kathleen Carrow Ingram Guild # 6449 myainfolk.blogspot.com/ myainfolkfantofireland.blogspot.com/ trees.ancestry.com/tree/52630507/family On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Kathleen Ingram <kathlingram45@gmail.com> wrote: > My Townsends starting with William Townsend, Yeoman wife Elizabeth > Townsend; sons Stephen, Costin, Solomon and Charles Townsend; daus. > Abigail Townsend and Elizabeth Deputy; son-in-law Silvester Deputy are > in Sussex County DE long before his death in 1728.. > This William is born in Morumsco, Somerset, Maryland and his wife > Elizabeth Costin in Hungers Parish, Somerset, Maryland. > > Most of these movements at this time had little to do with being > Loyalist as that is 2-3 generatiosn into the future..mostly had to do > with land and marriages. > Might be better to see what Townsends are still in Somerset at the > time that you lose track of your ancestor.. > > Kathleen Carrow Ingram > Guild # 6449 > > myainfolk.blogspot.com/ > myainfolkfantofireland.blogspot.com/ > trees.ancestry.com/tree/52630507/family

    02/25/2014 04:14:17