My name is Irv Wilkinson and my email is iwilk33@yahoo.com. I am trying to find the parents of Mary Lavonna Dean. She was born in Hurlock, Dorchester in 1861. She died in Dorchester in 1918. She married Eugene M.Neal ( 1860-1944 ). I would appreciate it very much if someone could tell me her parents. I have all the census and marriage records and have "mined" them to their full extent. Thank you for any information you can give me regarding her parents. Born and raised in Cambridge and go back to visit now and then. Irv Wilkinson
Welcome. There are maps from 1868 with landowners names in the David Ramsey Map Collection. I found my ancestors from Sussex there. There are other old maps, I didn't write down where they were from, but they had directories of the towns with business/owners names printed on them. My Laurel ancestors (Hazzard) had a son who was a wagon painter/repairer in Georgetown. Good luck. Jane
Karen, I think Mike is correct that the English family never moved an inch. The boundary lines were drawn around them. It might seem as if they moved, because of the Stepney Parish Records, but what you have to realize is that there was a chapel of ease for Stepney Parish near Laurel, Delaware. The current structure is called Old Christ Church and was built in 1772, but there was an earlier one. All the records were maintained as a parish, but the events did not all take place at old Green Hill. If you examine the Stepney Parish Records, you can see that they are all written in one hand, which tells me that they were copied from original records. It's been several decades since I really looked at what we term the "originals" but that is what I remember and at the time I think I even deduced that what we now call the originals were probably penned in the 1880s. Now, from my examination of the Somerset Parish records, I was able to ascertain that not all rectors were good record keepers. There are tenures of rectors where not a single marriage or baptism was performed. I dare say the rectors of Stepney Parish were much the same way. Even modern rectors are known to lapse in such important recordings. True story: we had a new rector some quarter century ago at St. Andrew's, Somerset Parish. He came to me and asked for the marriage date of a friend of mine, also a member of the church, because he had deduced she had been married at the church, but there was no record of it, nor the baptism of her first child. I had the information and supplied both dates. Why he didn't just ask my friend, I do not know! And then, some years later, I was asked by yet another rector when my daughter was baptized as he had found a note where it said she was to be, but yet there was no date entered in the records, so I had to find the baptismal certificate. This stuff happens all the time. So, what I'm saying is, the fact that Elisha was not recorded does not mean he is not a child of James English. You'll just have to find another record to prove the connection. On 3 June 1756 John Megee, planter, wife Margaret consenting, sold to James English, planter for five shillings, 50 acres of Kings Luck beginning at a marked white oak standing on the east side of the main road that leads to Broad Creek about 50 yards from Phillip King's house lying on the east side of the Nanticoke river about two miles to the north of the head of a branch called Blackwater (Worc D:129). If you Google Blackwater Branch and then follow it, that might help somewhat. The Laurel area was once called Broad Creek. So I'm guessing that King's Luck and probably the other properties were between Delmar and Laurel maybe three to four miles to the west of Route 13. The trick is where the head of Blackwater Branch is. I know that I am always surprised where the "head" of a body of water is now, usually just a trickle, barely meriting a culvert, and you really have to know a local person who just "knows". I'd make inquiries at the Laurel Historical Society for such a person. Perhaps there is someone on this list who makes it their business to know where the heads of creeks are in Sussex County, the way I do for Somerset County. There are no records that I know of that are "showing old plantation locations or a listing of property taxes to show neighbors, etc?" You mentioned probate records but did not say if there was a "rest and residue" clause in the will nor the date of the will. If other children received the remainder of the estate, even though unnamed, they could show up in a distribution of the estate. On Sunday, May 11, 2014 7:49 PM, Karen Chaney <lifelonglearner2012@outlook.com> wrote: Dear Listers, > >We are new to this list but have been doing family history for many years. >We've been searching for some proof that our Elisha English born 2 March >1767 is the son of James and Amey Waller ENGLISH who lived in Salisbury and >married Stepney Parish 1743, and had several of their children recorded in >the Old Green Hill Church there-but the record ends and does not include >1767 births for this family. By 1776 the family is found in Little Creek >100 in Sussex Co., Delaware. the mother, Amey/Amy is said to have died >about 1770-1771 but no evidence has been found. > >Question-Does anyone have any suggestions for original sources for this >English/Waller family from 1767-1776 in this region? We have found some >land records referring to the plantation "King's Luck" ,which in James >English probate he left to the 2 oldest sons, and and "Inglish's Lott" and >Englishes Adventure. > >Here are the land deed references: > > Land Records of James English in Wicomico County > >Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Certificate > >Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 7, p. 323 0 0 MSA >S 1601-1267 > >Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Patent > >Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 6, p. 28 0 0 MSA >S 1601-1268 > >SOMERSET MD Land records: > >Inglishes Lott, James Inglish, 50 Acres 1740/10/08 Unpatented Certificate >342 3 0 MSA S 1229-353 > >Inglishes Lott, 50 Acres; Unpatented Certificate > >Developer/Owner: Inglish, James 1748 Unpatented Certificate 342 0 0 MSA S >1599-2399 > >"James English of Somerset" > >Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acres 1752/10/17 Patented 17 Oct. >1752 Certificate 815 3 0 MSA S 1206-890-see image > >Reference: Patented Certificate 815 > >Date: 1752/10/17 > >Description: Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acres > >Dear Listers, > >We are new to this list but have been doing family history for many years. >We've been searching for some proof that our Elisha English born 2 March >1767 is the son of James and Amey Waller ENGLISH who lived in Salisbury and >married Stepney Parish 1743, and had several of their children recorded in >the Old Green Hill Church there-but the record ends and does not include >1767 births for this family. By 1776 the family is found in Little Creek >100 in Sussex Co., Delaware. the mother, Amey/Amy is said to have died >about 1770-1771 but no evidence has been found. > >Question-Does anyone have any suggestions for original sources for this >English/Waller family from 1767-1776 in this region? We have found some >land records referring to the plantation "King's Luck" ,which in James >English probate he left to the 2 oldest sons, and and "Inglish's Lott" and >Englishes Adventure. > >Here are the land deed references: > > Land Records of James English in Wicomico County > >Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Certificate > >Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 7, p. 323 0 0 MSA >S 1601-1267 > >Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Patent > >Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 6, p. 28 0 0 MSA >S 1601-1268 > >SOMERSET MD Land records: > >Inglishes Lott, James Inglish, 50 Acres 1740/10/08 Unpatented Certificate >342 3 0 MSA S 1229-353 > >Inglishes Lott, 50 Acres; Unpatented Certificate > >Developer/Owner: Inglish, James 1748 Unpatented Certificate 342 0 0 MSA S >1599-2399 > >"James English of Somerset" > >Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acres 1752/10/17 Patented 17 Oct. >1752 Certificate 815 3 0 MSA S 1206-890-see image > >Reference: Patented Certificate 815 > >Date: 1752/10/17 > >Description: Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acr > > > > > >This ENGLISH Family residence was said to be on the road between Laurel and >Salisbury > >Is there any maps showing old plantation locations or a listing of property >taxes to show neighbors, etc? > >Thank you for any help you may share. > >Sincerely, > >This ENGLISH Family residence was said to be on the road between Laurel and >Salisbury > >Is there any maps showing old plantation locations or a listing of property >taxes to show neighbors, etc? > >Thank you for any help you may share. > >Sincerely, > > > >*************************************** >QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >
They may not have "moved" to Sussex as old Somerset and Worcester counties ran up into Sussex quite far. In 1760, they may be designated as Somerset but by 1776, the MD/DE line was better established and so shown in Sussex... Without ever moving an inch! Best Regards, Mike Hitch from my mobile device <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Karen Chaney <lifelonglearner2012@outlook.com> </div><div>Date:05/11/2014 7:47 PM (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com </div><div>Subject: [LDR] Ancestors from Salisbury and Somerset and moved to Sussex </div><div> </div>Dear Listers, We are new to this list but have been doing family history for many years. We've been searching for some proof that our Elisha English born 2 March 1767 is the son of James and Amey Waller ENGLISH who lived in Salisbury and married Stepney Parish 1743, and had several of their children recorded in the Old Green Hill Church there-but the record ends and does not include 1767 births for this family. By 1776 the family is found in Little Creek 100 in Sussex Co., Delaware. the mother, Amey/Amy is said to have died about 1770-1771 but no evidence has been found. Question-Does anyone have any suggestions for original sources for this English/Waller family from 1767-1776 in this region? We have found some land records referring to the plantation "King's Luck" ,which in James English probate he left to the 2 oldest sons, and and "Inglish's Lott" and Englishes Adventure. Here are the land deed references: Land Records of James English in Wicomico County Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Certificate Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 7, p. 323 0 0 MSA S 1601-1267 Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Patent Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 6, p. 28 0 0 MSA S 1601-1268 SOMERSET MD Land records: Inglishes Lott, James Inglish, 50 Acres 1740/10/08 Unpatented Certificate 342 3 0 MSA S 1229-353 Inglishes Lott, 50 Acres; Unpatented Certificate Developer/Owner: Inglish, James 1748 Unpatented Certificate 342 0 0 MSA S 1599-2399 "James English of Somerset" Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acres 1752/10/17 Patented 17 Oct. 1752 Certificate 815 3 0 MSA S 1206-890-see image Reference: Patented Certificate 815 Date: 1752/10/17 Description: Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acres Dear Listers, We are new to this list but have been doing family history for many years. We've been searching for some proof that our Elisha English born 2 March 1767 is the son of James and Amey Waller ENGLISH who lived in Salisbury and married Stepney Parish 1743, and had several of their children recorded in the Old Green Hill Church there-but the record ends and does not include 1767 births for this family. By 1776 the family is found in Little Creek 100 in Sussex Co., Delaware. the mother, Amey/Amy is said to have died about 1770-1771 but no evidence has been found. Question-Does anyone have any suggestions for original sources for this English/Waller family from 1767-1776 in this region? We have found some land records referring to the plantation "King's Luck" ,which in James English probate he left to the 2 oldest sons, and and "Inglish's Lott" and Englishes Adventure. Here are the land deed references: Land Records of James English in Wicomico County Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Certificate Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 7, p. 323 0 0 MSA S 1601-1267 Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Patent Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 6, p. 28 0 0 MSA S 1601-1268 SOMERSET MD Land records: Inglishes Lott, James Inglish, 50 Acres 1740/10/08 Unpatented Certificate 342 3 0 MSA S 1229-353 Inglishes Lott, 50 Acres; Unpatented Certificate Developer/Owner: Inglish, James 1748 Unpatented Certificate 342 0 0 MSA S 1599-2399 "James English of Somerset" Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acres 1752/10/17 Patented 17 Oct. 1752 Certificate 815 3 0 MSA S 1206-890-see image Reference: Patented Certificate 815 Date: 1752/10/17 Description: Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acr This ENGLISH Family residence was said to be on the road between Laurel and Salisbury Is there any maps showing old plantation locations or a listing of property taxes to show neighbors, etc? Thank you for any help you may share. Sincerely, This ENGLISH Family residence was said to be on the road between Laurel and Salisbury Is there any maps showing old plantation locations or a listing of property taxes to show neighbors, etc? Thank you for any help you may share. Sincerely, *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Karen, My family came from Sussex, as well. Prior to the establishment of the Transpeninsular Line (1751)and the Mason-Dixon Line (1763-1767), the boundary between Maryland and Delaware was generally determined by transportation routes (rivers). Much of present day Delaware actually drains to Chesapeake Bay and was considered part of Maryland (by Marylanders). My Thompsons lived within 5 miles of Millsboro and that was considered Maryland. Little Creek Hundred was at various early times considered part of Somerset, Worcester, and Wicomico counties in Maryland. Seaford, Laurel, Bridgeville and Greenwood were all considered part of Maryland. The watershed line comes almost as far east as Georgetown. Even after Mason and Dixon finished their survey it look a few years for everyone to accept it, so it was about the time of the Revolutionary War before things got straightened out. Prior to that I would look for records in both states and especially make note of and memorize the dates when the Maryland counties were formed. Jay Thompson just an old genealogy nut too tough to crack. ________________________________ From: Karen Chaney <lifelonglearner2012@outlook.com> To: LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 7:47 PM Subject: [LDR] Ancestors from Salisbury and Somerset and moved to Sussex Dear Listers, We are new to this list but have been doing family history for many years. We've been searching for some proof that our Elisha English born 2 March 1767 is the son of James and Amey Waller ENGLISH who lived in Salisbury and married Stepney Parish 1743, and had several of their children recorded in the Old Green Hill Church there-but the record ends and does not include 1767 births for this family. By 1776 the family is found in Little Creek 100 in Sussex Co., Delaware. the mother, Amey/Amy is said to have died about 1770-1771 but no evidence has been found. Question-Does anyone have any suggestions for original sources for this English/Waller family from 1767-1776 in this region? We have found some land records referring to the plantation "King's Luck" ,which in James English probate he left to the 2 oldest sons, and and "Inglish's Lott" and Englishes Adventure. Here are the land deed references: Land Records of James English in Wicomico County Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Certificate Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 7, p. 323 0 0 MSA S 1601-1267 Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Patent Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 6, p. 28 0 0 MSA S 1601-1268 SOMERSET MD Land records: Inglishes Lott, James Inglish, 50 Acres 1740/10/08 Unpatented Certificate 342 3 0 MSA S 1229-353 Inglishes Lott, 50 Acres; Unpatented Certificate Developer/Owner: Inglish, James 1748 Unpatented Certificate 342 0 0 MSA S 1599-2399 "James English of Somerset" Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acres 1752/10/17 Patented 17 Oct. 1752 Certificate 815 3 0 MSA S 1206-890-see image Reference: Patented Certificate 815 Date: 1752/10/17 Description: Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acres Dear Listers, We are new to this list but have been doing family history for many years. We've been searching for some proof that our Elisha English born 2 March 1767 is the son of James and Amey Waller ENGLISH who lived in Salisbury and married Stepney Parish 1743, and had several of their children recorded in the Old Green Hill Church there-but the record ends and does not include 1767 births for this family. By 1776 the family is found in Little Creek 100 in Sussex Co., Delaware. the mother, Amey/Amy is said to have died about 1770-1771 but no evidence has been found. Question-Does anyone have any suggestions for original sources for this English/Waller family from 1767-1776 in this region? We have found some land records referring to the plantation "King's Luck" ,which in James English probate he left to the 2 oldest sons, and and "Inglish's Lott" and Englishes Adventure. Here are the land deed references: Land Records of James English in Wicomico County Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Certificate Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 7, p. 323 0 0 MSA S 1601-1267 Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Patent Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 6, p. 28 0 0 MSA S 1601-1268 SOMERSET MD Land records: Inglishes Lott, James Inglish, 50 Acres 1740/10/08 Unpatented Certificate 342 3 0 MSA S 1229-353 Inglishes Lott, 50 Acres; Unpatented Certificate Developer/Owner: Inglish, James 1748 Unpatented Certificate 342 0 0 MSA S 1599-2399 "James English of Somerset" Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acres 1752/10/17 Patented 17 Oct. 1752 Certificate 815 3 0 MSA S 1206-890-see image Reference: Patented Certificate 815 Date: 1752/10/17 Description: Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acr This ENGLISH Family residence was said to be on the road between Laurel and Salisbury Is there any maps showing old plantation locations or a listing of property taxes to show neighbors, etc? Thank you for any help you may share. Sincerely, This ENGLISH Family residence was said to be on the road between Laurel and Salisbury Is there any maps showing old plantation locations or a listing of property taxes to show neighbors, etc? Thank you for any help you may share. Sincerely, *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Dear Listers, We are new to this list but have been doing family history for many years. We've been searching for some proof that our Elisha English born 2 March 1767 is the son of James and Amey Waller ENGLISH who lived in Salisbury and married Stepney Parish 1743, and had several of their children recorded in the Old Green Hill Church there-but the record ends and does not include 1767 births for this family. By 1776 the family is found in Little Creek 100 in Sussex Co., Delaware. the mother, Amey/Amy is said to have died about 1770-1771 but no evidence has been found. Question-Does anyone have any suggestions for original sources for this English/Waller family from 1767-1776 in this region? We have found some land records referring to the plantation "King's Luck" ,which in James English probate he left to the 2 oldest sons, and and "Inglish's Lott" and Englishes Adventure. Here are the land deed references: Land Records of James English in Wicomico County Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Certificate Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 7, p. 323 0 0 MSA S 1601-1267 Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Patent Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 6, p. 28 0 0 MSA S 1601-1268 SOMERSET MD Land records: Inglishes Lott, James Inglish, 50 Acres 1740/10/08 Unpatented Certificate 342 3 0 MSA S 1229-353 Inglishes Lott, 50 Acres; Unpatented Certificate Developer/Owner: Inglish, James 1748 Unpatented Certificate 342 0 0 MSA S 1599-2399 "James English of Somerset" Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acres 1752/10/17 Patented 17 Oct. 1752 Certificate 815 3 0 MSA S 1206-890-see image Reference: Patented Certificate 815 Date: 1752/10/17 Description: Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acres Dear Listers, We are new to this list but have been doing family history for many years. We've been searching for some proof that our Elisha English born 2 March 1767 is the son of James and Amey Waller ENGLISH who lived in Salisbury and married Stepney Parish 1743, and had several of their children recorded in the Old Green Hill Church there-but the record ends and does not include 1767 births for this family. By 1776 the family is found in Little Creek 100 in Sussex Co., Delaware. the mother, Amey/Amy is said to have died about 1770-1771 but no evidence has been found. Question-Does anyone have any suggestions for original sources for this English/Waller family from 1767-1776 in this region? We have found some land records referring to the plantation "King's Luck" ,which in James English probate he left to the 2 oldest sons, and and "Inglish's Lott" and Englishes Adventure. Here are the land deed references: Land Records of James English in Wicomico County Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Certificate Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 7, p. 323 0 0 MSA S 1601-1267 Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Patent Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 6, p. 28 0 0 MSA S 1601-1268 SOMERSET MD Land records: Inglishes Lott, James Inglish, 50 Acres 1740/10/08 Unpatented Certificate 342 3 0 MSA S 1229-353 Inglishes Lott, 50 Acres; Unpatented Certificate Developer/Owner: Inglish, James 1748 Unpatented Certificate 342 0 0 MSA S 1599-2399 "James English of Somerset" Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acres 1752/10/17 Patented 17 Oct. 1752 Certificate 815 3 0 MSA S 1206-890-see image Reference: Patented Certificate 815 Date: 1752/10/17 Description: Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acr This ENGLISH Family residence was said to be on the road between Laurel and Salisbury Is there any maps showing old plantation locations or a listing of property taxes to show neighbors, etc? Thank you for any help you may share. Sincerely, This ENGLISH Family residence was said to be on the road between Laurel and Salisbury Is there any maps showing old plantation locations or a listing of property taxes to show neighbors, etc? Thank you for any help you may share. Sincerely,
As we speak, I am sitting on a hill overlooking the Ohio Military Dist of old downtown Cincinnati. We have a deep resource for Genealogical research here. If anyone needs a Military Dist lookup …just holler…Pat On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:56 PM, Jane McDonnell <jdmcdonnell@comcast.net> wrote: > NORAH, > > HERE IS THE FAMILYSERACH.ORG DESCRIPTION OF BOUNTY LANDS > https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/US_Military_Bounty_Land_Warrants > > IT SHOWS THAT THE EASTERN PART OF HAMILTON COUNTY DID OVERLAP THE "VIRGINIA MILITARY SURVEY' BOUNTY LANDS IN OHIO. > > I THINK THERE ARE INCOMPLETE INDEXES IN VARIOUS PLACES. FAMILY SEARCH HAS LINKS TO SOURCES. ANCESTRY HAS RECORDS OF EDSON, WALTER, WILLIAM AND JOSEPH HASTINGS IN THE WAR OF 1812. > > YOU CAN ORDER COPIES OF THE RECORD AT THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES. > > HOPE THIS HELPS. I AM JUST LEARNING ABOUT THIS, SO I HAVEN'T TRIED THE INDEXES. > > JANE > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Jane-- Good to hear you agree w/me that WikiTree is a valuable resource; it is quickly overcoming my home PC-based Brother's Keeper system, since so many of my lines have been extended and fleshed out by other researchers. The only difficult aspect of uploading thousands of individual records to Wiki at once is having to go back and merge duplicates, but I guess that sort of goes with the territory, especially if one or more of your lines issues from New England, where data is 'way too plentiful and duplicate names are everywhere. Eventually, when it looks about as complete as it's going to get, I'll make a gedcom of my tree on WikiTree and download it to my PC so I can use Brother's Keeper to make charts, reports, etc. Cheers, Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: Jane McDonnell Sent: 04/12/14 02:06 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Free Online Genealogy Databases Bob, Thanks for that info. I had never heard of WikiTree. It is a great widget solution for keeping universally compatible your family tree that evidently allows you to download and upload GEDCOM where you want them and keep the wiki as your fundamental tree. Has this been your experience in practice? I hate Ancestry the most for making it a closed system, not allowing you to freely download GEDCOMs and share and making things generally difficult unless you use their tree software, and even then my family can't send me their tree as a GEDCOM. If you use Ancestry you are locked into that tree. Merging other trees or updating offsite are not options. It isn't in their interests to allow you to use your tree on other competing sites. For free info, FamilySearch and Rootsweb and some GenWebs (Ireland for instance) are great. WikiTree makes it possible to create a HTML file that is compatible (at the moment) and uploadable with everything I use. As for using family trees on the I! nternet, I would say about 80% of the data on Ancestry trees is downright wrong (and endlessly copied wrong on other trees) or has conflicting information that could easily be addressed if the tree owner had taken the extra small step and simply looked at the original record. It is maddening. So, I never use Ancestry Trees for anything but clues. Never as facts. WikiTree would be no different in that regard. I personally have MacFamilyTree software ($) which is integrated with Family Search, so I have, in effect, a free tree on Family Search with this. I wish I had stuck with it (I switched to Ancestry a couple years ago) because I could have downloaded GEDCOMs from MacFamilyTree onto WikiTree. WikiTree could, especially if you haven't committed your tree to Ancestry, be a great solution for a lot of people. JD *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www! .tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To uns ubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message O wad some Pow'r the giftie gie us To see oursels as ithers see us! --Robert Burns
Bob, Thanks for that info. I had never heard of WikiTree. It is a great widget solution for keeping universally compatible your family tree that evidently allows you to download and upload GEDCOM where you want them and keep the wiki as your fundamental tree. Has this been your experience in practice? I hate Ancestry the most for making it a closed system, not allowing you to freely download GEDCOMs and share and making things generally difficult unless you use their tree software, and even then my family can't send me their tree as a GEDCOM. If you use Ancestry you are locked into that tree. Merging other trees or updating offsite are not options. It isn't in their interests to allow you to use your tree on other competing sites. For free info, FamilySearch and Rootsweb and some GenWebs (Ireland for instance) are great. WikiTree makes it possible to create a HTML file that is compatible (at the moment) and uploadable with everything I use. As for using family trees on the Internet, I would say about 80% of the data on Ancestry trees is downright wrong (and endlessly copied wrong on other trees) or has conflicting information that could easily be addressed if the tree owner had taken the extra small step and simply looked at the original record. It is maddening. So, I never use Ancestry Trees for anything but clues. Never as facts. WikiTree would be no different in that regard. I personally have MacFamilyTree software ($) which is integrated with Family Search, so I have, in effect, a free tree on Family Search with this. I wish I had stuck with it (I switched to Ancestry a couple years ago) because I could have downloaded GEDCOMs from MacFamilyTree onto WikiTree. WikiTree could, especially if you haven't committed your tree to Ancestry, be a great solution for a lot of people. JD
Norah-- If you're looking for a free online site to post your genealogy, Ancestry's free subsidiary, RootsWeb.com, works well. If you want to merge your findings with those of other genealogists, you can't beat WikiTree.com; it's "crowd-sourcing" at its best, and all free--it even has the capability of linking users via most of the popular DNA test results. Bob Nichol ----- Original Message ----- From: lenorah123@comcast.net Sent: 04/12/14 12:17 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] RESEARCH SITE MY HERITAGE.COM THANKS JANE FOR THE REPLY. I HAVE ANCESTRY AND USE IT A LOT BUT I DON'T HAVE MY TREE ONLINE. I WILL SHARE INFO WITH ANYONE BUT I DON'T FEEL ANCESTRY HAS THE RIGHT TO CHARGE PEOPLE TO SEE WHAT I GAVE THEM FREE. I AM ALSO HAVING PROBLEMS WITH ANCESTRY WEBSITES THAT ARE PRIVATE. YOU USED TO BE ABLE TO SEND A REQUEST TO THE OWNER BUT FOR SOME REASON IT WON'T LET YOU CONTACT THEM OR EVEN VIEW A PROFILE. I HAVE A FEW BRICK WALLS THAT I THOUGHT MIGHT BE SOLVED BUT ONLY IF THEY HAVE INFO THE OTHERS DON'T. THANKS AGAIN AND GOD BLESS, NORAH HASTINGS COLLINS -----Original Message----- From: Jane McDonnell Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 11:43 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] RESEARCH SITE MY HERITAGE.COM Hi Norah, MYHERITAGE has had many problems in its past, as Ancestry once did with privacy and not being able to cancel subscriptions. It seemed to work for Ancestry, so the cynic in me figures its just a business model to generate cash flow. When Ancestry fixe! d these issues I came back to the field. My instinct, when I checked MyHeritage out last year, was to wait to use it till they worked out the kinks. For user generated reviews and links to more info you can go to this page: https://www.facebook.com/MyheritageFamilyTreeComplaints Myheritage is an Israeli company (offices in other countries) that may rival Ancestry. They certainly are trying! They have acquired Genidotcom and WorldVitalRecords, and last October began a partnership with FamilySearch. They also have a social network component, which makes them different. For better or worse, depending on your point of view. The basic membership is free and worth using to see if a previously unsearchable country or state index is more accessible. There are graduated levels of memberships, and you don't get many services unless you fork out the $6.95 a month or $9.95 a month. I used the free version last summer and decided there was nothing different from Ancestry or Family Searc! h (combined), but the premium subscriptions would tell me more. I, too , would like to know if anyone has subscribed to the service and what they thought. They have a social network component, and according to reviews do the same annoying thing Facebook does, directing you to advertisements and asking endlessly if they can share your information (thus generating ad revenue). JD *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, pleas! e send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message O wad some Pow'r the giftie gie us To see oursels as ithers see us! --Robert Burns
THANKS JANE FOR THE REPLY. I HAVE ANCESTRY AND USE IT A LOT BUT I DON'T HAVE MY TREE ONLINE. I WILL SHARE INFO WITH ANYONE BUT I DON'T FEEL ANCESTRY HAS THE RIGHT TO CHARGE PEOPLE TO SEE WHAT I GAVE THEM FREE. I AM ALSO HAVING PROBLEMS WITH ANCESTRY WEBSITES THAT ARE PRIVATE. YOU USED TO BE ABLE TO SEND A REQUEST TO THE OWNER BUT FOR SOME REASON IT WON'T LET YOU CONTACT THEM OR EVEN VIEW A PROFILE. I HAVE A FEW BRICK WALLS THAT I THOUGHT MIGHT BE SOLVED BUT ONLY IF THEY HAVE INFO THE OTHERS DON'T. THANKS AGAIN AND GOD BLESS, NORAH HASTINGS COLLINS -----Original Message----- From: Jane McDonnell Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 11:43 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] RESEARCH SITE MY HERITAGE.COM Hi Norah, MYHERITAGE has had many problems in its past, as Ancestry once did with privacy and not being able to cancel subscriptions. It seemed to work for Ancestry, so the cynic in me figures its just a business model to generate cash flow. When Ancestry fixed these issues I came back to the field. My instinct, when I checked MyHeritage out last year, was to wait to use it till they worked out the kinks. For user generated reviews and links to more info you can go to this page: https://www.facebook.com/MyheritageFamilyTreeComplaints Myheritage is an Israeli company (offices in other countries) that may rival Ancestry. They certainly are trying! They have acquired Genidotcom and WorldVitalRecords, and last October began a partnership with FamilySearch. They also have a social network component, which makes them different. For better or worse, depending on your point of view. The basic membership is free and worth using to see if a previously unsearchable country or state index is more accessible. There are graduated levels of memberships, and you don't get many services unless you fork out the $6.95 a month or $9.95 a month. I used the free version last summer and decided there was nothing different from Ancestry or Family Search (combined), but the premium subscriptions would tell me more. I, too, would like to know if anyone has subscribed to the service and what they thought. They have a social network component, and according to reviews do the same annoying thing Facebook does, directing you to advertisements and asking endlessly if they can share your information (thus generating ad revenue). JD *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Norah, MYHERITAGE has had many problems in its past, as Ancestry once did with privacy and not being able to cancel subscriptions. It seemed to work for Ancestry, so the cynic in me figures its just a business model to generate cash flow. When Ancestry fixed these issues I came back to the field. My instinct, when I checked MyHeritage out last year, was to wait to use it till they worked out the kinks. For user generated reviews and links to more info you can go to this page: https://www.facebook.com/MyheritageFamilyTreeComplaints Myheritage is an Israeli company (offices in other countries) that may rival Ancestry. They certainly are trying! They have acquired Genidotcom and WorldVitalRecords, and last October began a partnership with FamilySearch. They also have a social network component, which makes them different. For better or worse, depending on your point of view. The basic membership is free and worth using to see if a previously unsearchable country or state index is more accessible. There are graduated levels of memberships, and you don't get many services unless you fork out the $6.95 a month or $9.95 a month. I used the free version last summer and decided there was nothing different from Ancestry or Family Search (combined), but the premium subscriptions would tell me more. I, too, would like to know if anyone has subscribed to the service and what they thought. They have a social network component, and according to reviews do the same annoying thing Facebook does, directing you to advertisements and asking endlessly if they can share your information (thus generating ad revenue). JD
HI FOLKS. HAS ANYONE ONLINE USED THIS AND IS IT BETTER THAN ANCESTRY.COM? I’VE USED ANCESTRY AND A FEW OTHER SITES BUT I WONDERED IF THIS HAS ANY INFO NOT ON THE OTHERS. THEY SAID ON TV YOU CAN GET A 30% DISCOUNT BY MENTIONING THE SHOW BUT THE WEBSITE LOOKS FREE. CAN ANYONE HELP ME? GOD BLESS, NORAH HASTINGS COLLINS
Hi, Irv. Looks like someone posted the wrong death year for her FindAGrave memorial: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=59965977 If you look at a close-up of her headstone, the actual death year is 1948, not 1918: http://image1.findagrave.com/photos/2010/283/59965977_128684516452.jpg (I've dropped a note to the owner of the memorial to have them update it). Hope this helps. Thanks, John P.S. It's always a good idea to use a Subject when posting, and to start a new thread whenever switching to a new person/topic of discussion. Just a suggestion. Good luck! -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of lower-delmarva-roots-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:00 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Digest, Vol 9, Issue 60 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 10:51:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Iiirvin Wilkinson <iwilk33@yahoo.com> Subject: [LDR] (no subject) To: LDR <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <1395856291.10850.YahooMailNeo@web140706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi! Because I received such good support on my last request, I want to make another. My name is Irv Wilkinson and my email is iwilk33@yahoo.com I am looking for the mother and father of Mary Lavonia Dean. She was born in 1861 in Hurlock, Md. She died in 1918? in Brookview, Dorchester County (Hurlock is also in Dorchester) She married Eugene M Neal (1860-1944). All the information is in Dorchester County. Thank you for any help you may provide. Irv Wilkinson
Hi! Because I received such good support on my last request, I want to make another. My name is Irv Wilkinson and my email is iwilk33@yahoo.com I am looking for the mother and father of Mary Lavonia Dean. She was born in 1861 in Hurlock, Md. She died in 1918 in Brookview, Dorchester County (Hurlock is also in Dorchester) She married Eugene M Neal (1860-1944). All the information is in Dorchester County. Thank you for any help you may provide. Irv Wilkinson
Don't know, and really don't much care. E In a message dated 3/25/2014 12:31:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bluejeans@ec.rr.com writes: Who is PDR and reporting that there was no message included. Michelle ----- Original Message ----- From: "PDR" <desireamore@yahoo.com> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [LDR] Sothey KING legal matter. > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone > > Michelle Burris Kenerly <bluejeans@ec.rr.com> wrote: > >>Elizabeth, >> Thank you once again for all of the information that you have >> provided. >>I wish I were able to be in the Delmarva area right now and had access to >>the records. I would be mostly interested in knowing about his >>descendants >>and get info on the census. Well, maybe some of the KING families may >>know >>about his matters with his family and not just his business connections. I >>think he had a plantation and other means of survival..like tobacco crops, >>etc. >>ttyl....thanks again you are always so helpful. >>Michelle >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <EMSCRS@aol.com> >>To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 6:06 AM >>Subject: Re: [LDR] Sothey KING legal matter. >> >> >>> Good luck with it all. Judy was correct that the complete document >>> should >>> make it all clearer, and you might also wish to check the will or >>> Orphans >>> Court records for the minor children and how they acquired this debt. >>> It >>> is faintly possible that Mr. King was guardian, and the debt arose out >>> of >>> his >>> handling of the estate. He might even have been their stepfather (it >>> would not have been the first time). Reading every original document >>> you >>> can >>> find really opens a lot of windows on the people and what they were >>> doing. >>> It also shows that we are all our own cousins. >>> >>> Elizabeth >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 3/25/2014 6:56:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> bluejeans@ec.rr.com writes: >>> >>> Elizabeth... >>> True, true how true. Thanks for the information..it was very helpful. >>> Michelle >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <EMSCRS@aol.com> >>> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:51 AM >>> Subject: Re: [LDR] Sothey KING legal matter. >>> >>> >>>> Land wasn't worth so much then as now, particularly when few people >>>> had >>>> a >>>> lot of actual cash. When a good horse was valued at $2.00, it >>>> changes >>>> one's perspective. Nowadays, you could pay more than $2,000.00 to >>> rescue >>>> one >>>> from a slaughter lot. >>>> >>>> Elizabeth >>>> >>>> >>>> In a message dated 3/25/2014 5:52:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>>> bluejeans@ec.rr.com writes: >>>> >>>> Elizabeth: >>>> Thank you for your prompt reply on my ancestor Sothey KING. After >>>> reading your reply it made perfect sense and it seems like a big >>>> price >>> to >>>> pay for a debt...so much acreage. I hope he had a good attorney. >>>> Michelle >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: <EMSCRS@aol.com> >>>> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 7:35 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [LDR] Sothey KING legal matter. >>>> >>>> >>>>> It appears that Mr. King owed a debt to the minors, and Mr Wingate >>>>> paid >>>> it >>>>> in exchange for a piece of property. >>>>> >>>>> If you can find the Orphans Court records, they might explain the >>> nature >>>>> of >>>>> the debt (might have been originally owed to their father, and they >>>>> inherited it). >>>>> >>>>> Elizabeth >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In a message dated 3/24/2014 8:31:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>>>> bluejeans@ec.rr.com writes: >>>>> >>>>> In regards to my ancestor Sothey KING, I would like for someone to >>>>> explain >>>>> this legal document to me as it seems a little complicated. It >>>>> reads >>>> to >>>>> wit: >>>>> (item or pg.# 326)...8 Nov.1786. Deed. JOHN WINGATE, yeoman, from >>>>> PETER >>>>> F. WRIGHT. Whereas there is a tr in Broad Creek Hund, 58 ac, pt/ o >>>>> a >>>>> larger >>>>> tr called Crooked Lane, originally granted by patent from >>>>> proprietary >>>>> of >>>>> MD to JOHN WILLEY (alias JOHN ALEXANDER WILLEY who by indenture >>> bearing >>>> >>>>> this >>>>> date 4 Nov 1762 sold 58 ac to SUTHEY KING recorded in Wor Co, MD, >>> Liber >>>>> E, >>>>> folio 381, 382. Also another parcel adj above 58 ac and pt/o a lager >>> tr >>>>> of >>>>> 400 ac granted to SUTHEY KING by virtue of a warrant from >>>>> proprietary >>> of >>>>> Pa., now in the possession of BETTY GUMBY, widow, 200 ac. And >>>>> whereas >>>>> JOHN >>>>> WINGATE at the request of SUTHEY KING, together SUTHEY KING by a >>> certain >>>>> obligation dated 7 Aug 1783 became bound unto WOODMAN STOCKLEY, >>>>> FRANCIS >>>>> STOCKLEY and CORNELIUS STOCKLEY, minors, and heirs of CORNELIUS >>>> STOCKLEY, >>>>> deed, >>>>> in the sum of 245 pounds, 12 shillings, 8 pence. Whereas JOHN >>>>> WINGATE >>>>> recovered a judgment agnst SUTHEY KINF and the property was sold to >>>>> WINGATE. >>>>> Wit: D. TRAIN, SETH GRIFFITH. >>>>> Ackn 8 Nov. 1786 >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>> Thank you in advance for clearing up the above information for me. >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Michelle Burris Kenerly >>>>> (formerly of Bridgeville, DE). >>>>> >>>>> *************************************** >>>>> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>>>> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>>>> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>>>> 'unsubscribe' >>>>> without the quotes in >>>>> the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> *************************************** >>>>> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>>>> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>>>> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>>>> 'unsubscribe' >>>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>> >>>> *************************************** >>>> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>>> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>>> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in >>>> the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> *************************************** >>>> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>>> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>>> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> *************************************** >>> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in >>> the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> *************************************** >>> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >>*************************************** >>QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? 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It might be helpful to explore what they have, and make a list of the things you would most like to examine. Cuts down on the time spent hunting when you get there. And, you are always welcome. Elizabeth In a message dated 3/25/2014 12:20:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bluejeans@ec.rr.com writes: Elizabeth: No I haven't but a few years ago is when I was lucky enough to find his will in the Delaware Archives. I think we will be in DE in about a month and I will see what else I can find. Thanks again...you are ALWAYS so helpful and I appreciate it. Michelle ----- Original Message ----- From: <EMSCRS@aol.com> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [LDR] Sothey KING legal matter. > Have you tried the Public Finding Aids section of the Delaware Archives? > They have quite a bit, and even if the original documents are not > published > you can order whatever appears to be helpful. I find them a lot more > helpful than Maryland. > > Elizabeth > > > In a message dated 3/25/2014 8:29:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > bluejeans@ec.rr.com writes: > > Elizabeth, > Thank you once again for all of the information that you have provided. > I wish I were able to be in the Delmarva area right now and had access to > the records. I would be mostly interested in knowing about his > descendants > and get info on the census. Well, maybe some of the KING families may > know > about his matters with his family and not just his business connections. > I > think he had a plantation and other means of survival..like tobacco > crops, > > etc. > ttyl....thanks again you are always so helpful. > Michelle > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <EMSCRS@aol.com> > To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 6:06 AM > Subject: Re: [LDR] Sothey KING legal matter. > > >> Good luck with it all. Judy was correct that the complete document >> should >> make it all clearer, and you might also wish to check the will or >> Orphans >> Court records for the minor children and how they acquired this debt. >> It >> is faintly possible that Mr. King was guardian, and the debt arose out > of >> his >> handling of the estate. He might even have been their stepfather (it >> would not have been the first time). Reading every original document > you >> can >> find really opens a lot of windows on the people and what they were > doing. >> It also shows that we are all our own cousins. >> >> Elizabeth >> >> >> In a message dated 3/25/2014 6:56:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> bluejeans@ec.rr.com writes: >> >> Elizabeth... >> True, true how true. Thanks for the information..it was very helpful. >> Michelle >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <EMSCRS@aol.com> >> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:51 AM >> Subject: Re: [LDR] Sothey KING legal matter. >> >> >>> Land wasn't worth so much then as now, particularly when few people > had >>> a >>> lot of actual cash. When a good horse was valued at $2.00, it > changes >>> one's perspective. Nowadays, you could pay more than $2,000.00 to >> rescue >>> one >>> from a slaughter lot. >>> >>> Elizabeth >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 3/25/2014 5:52:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> bluejeans@ec.rr.com writes: >>> >>> Elizabeth: >>> Thank you for your prompt reply on my ancestor Sothey KING. After >>> reading your reply it made perfect sense and it seems like a big > price >> to >>> pay for a debt...so much acreage. I hope he had a good attorney. >>> Michelle >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <EMSCRS@aol.com> >>> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 7:35 PM >>> Subject: Re: [LDR] Sothey KING legal matter. >>> >>> >>>> It appears that Mr. King owed a debt to the minors, and Mr Wingate >>>> paid >>> it >>>> in exchange for a piece of property. >>>> >>>> If you can find the Orphans Court records, they might explain the >> nature >>>> of >>>> the debt (might have been originally owed to their father, and they >>>> inherited it). >>>> >>>> Elizabeth >>>> >>>> >>>> In a message dated 3/24/2014 8:31:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>>> bluejeans@ec.rr.com writes: >>>> >>>> In regards to my ancestor Sothey KING, I would like for someone to >>>> explain >>>> this legal document to me as it seems a little complicated. It > reads >>> to >>>> wit: >>>> (item or pg.# 326)...8 Nov.1786. Deed. JOHN WINGATE, yeoman, from >>>> PETER >>>> F. WRIGHT. Whereas there is a tr in Broad Creek Hund, 58 ac, pt/ o > a >>>> larger >>>> tr called Crooked Lane, originally granted by patent from > proprietary >>>> of >>>> MD to JOHN WILLEY (alias JOHN ALEXANDER WILLEY who by indenture >> bearing >>> >>>> this >>>> date 4 Nov 1762 sold 58 ac to SUTHEY KING recorded in Wor Co, MD, >> Liber >>>> E, >>>> folio 381, 382. Also another parcel adj above 58 ac and pt/o a lager >> tr >>>> of >>>> 400 ac granted to SUTHEY KING by virtue of a warrant from >>>> proprietary >> of >>>> Pa., now in the possession of BETTY GUMBY, widow, 200 ac. And >>>> whereas >>>> JOHN >>>> WINGATE at the request of SUTHEY KING, together SUTHEY KING by a >> certain >>>> obligation dated 7 Aug 1783 became bound unto WOODMAN STOCKLEY, >>>> FRANCIS >>>> STOCKLEY and CORNELIUS STOCKLEY, minors, and heirs of CORNELIUS >>> STOCKLEY, >>>> deed, >>>> in the sum of 245 pounds, 12 shillings, 8 pence. Whereas JOHN >>>> WINGATE >>>> recovered a judgment agnst SUTHEY KINF and the property was sold to >>>> WINGATE. >>>> Wit: D. TRAIN, SETH GRIFFITH. >>>> Ackn 8 Nov. 1786 >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> Thank you in advance for clearing up the above information for me. >>>> Regards, >>>> Michelle Burris Kenerly >>>> (formerly of Bridgeville, DE). >>>> >>>> *************************************** >>>> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>>> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>>> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in >>>> the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> *************************************** >>>> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>>> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>>> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> *************************************** >>> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in >>> the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> *************************************** >>> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> *************************************** >> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >> >> *************************************** >> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? 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Who is PDR and reporting that there was no message included. Michelle ----- Original Message ----- From: "PDR" <desireamore@yahoo.com> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [LDR] Sothey KING legal matter. > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone > > Michelle Burris Kenerly <bluejeans@ec.rr.com> wrote: > >>Elizabeth, >> Thank you once again for all of the information that you have >> provided. >>I wish I were able to be in the Delmarva area right now and had access to >>the records. I would be mostly interested in knowing about his >>descendants >>and get info on the census. Well, maybe some of the KING families may >>know >>about his matters with his family and not just his business connections. I >>think he had a plantation and other means of survival..like tobacco crops, >>etc. >>ttyl....thanks again you are always so helpful. >>Michelle >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <EMSCRS@aol.com> >>To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 6:06 AM >>Subject: Re: [LDR] Sothey KING legal matter. >> >> >>> Good luck with it all. Judy was correct that the complete document >>> should >>> make it all clearer, and you might also wish to check the will or >>> Orphans >>> Court records for the minor children and how they acquired this debt. >>> It >>> is faintly possible that Mr. King was guardian, and the debt arose out >>> of >>> his >>> handling of the estate. He might even have been their stepfather (it >>> would not have been the first time). Reading every original document >>> you >>> can >>> find really opens a lot of windows on the people and what they were >>> doing. >>> It also shows that we are all our own cousins. >>> >>> Elizabeth >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 3/25/2014 6:56:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> bluejeans@ec.rr.com writes: >>> >>> Elizabeth... >>> True, true how true. Thanks for the information..it was very helpful. >>> Michelle >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <EMSCRS@aol.com> >>> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:51 AM >>> Subject: Re: [LDR] Sothey KING legal matter. >>> >>> >>>> Land wasn't worth so much then as now, particularly when few people >>>> had >>>> a >>>> lot of actual cash. When a good horse was valued at $2.00, it >>>> changes >>>> one's perspective. Nowadays, you could pay more than $2,000.00 to >>> rescue >>>> one >>>> from a slaughter lot. >>>> >>>> Elizabeth >>>> >>>> >>>> In a message dated 3/25/2014 5:52:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>>> bluejeans@ec.rr.com writes: >>>> >>>> Elizabeth: >>>> Thank you for your prompt reply on my ancestor Sothey KING. After >>>> reading your reply it made perfect sense and it seems like a big >>>> price >>> to >>>> pay for a debt...so much acreage. I hope he had a good attorney. >>>> Michelle >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: <EMSCRS@aol.com> >>>> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 7:35 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [LDR] Sothey KING legal matter. >>>> >>>> >>>>> It appears that Mr. King owed a debt to the minors, and Mr Wingate >>>>> paid >>>> it >>>>> in exchange for a piece of property. >>>>> >>>>> If you can find the Orphans Court records, they might explain the >>> nature >>>>> of >>>>> the debt (might have been originally owed to their father, and they >>>>> inherited it). >>>>> >>>>> Elizabeth >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In a message dated 3/24/2014 8:31:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>>>> bluejeans@ec.rr.com writes: >>>>> >>>>> In regards to my ancestor Sothey KING, I would like for someone to >>>>> explain >>>>> this legal document to me as it seems a little complicated. It >>>>> reads >>>> to >>>>> wit: >>>>> (item or pg.# 326)...8 Nov.1786. Deed. JOHN WINGATE, yeoman, from >>>>> PETER >>>>> F. WRIGHT. Whereas there is a tr in Broad Creek Hund, 58 ac, pt/ o >>>>> a >>>>> larger >>>>> tr called Crooked Lane, originally granted by patent from >>>>> proprietary >>>>> of >>>>> MD to JOHN WILLEY (alias JOHN ALEXANDER WILLEY who by indenture >>> bearing >>>> >>>>> this >>>>> date 4 Nov 1762 sold 58 ac to SUTHEY KING recorded in Wor Co, MD, >>> Liber >>>>> E, >>>>> folio 381, 382. Also another parcel adj above 58 ac and pt/o a lager >>> tr >>>>> of >>>>> 400 ac granted to SUTHEY KING by virtue of a warrant from >>>>> proprietary >>> of >>>>> Pa., now in the possession of BETTY GUMBY, widow, 200 ac. And >>>>> whereas >>>>> JOHN >>>>> WINGATE at the request of SUTHEY KING, together SUTHEY KING by a >>> certain >>>>> obligation dated 7 Aug 1783 became bound unto WOODMAN STOCKLEY, >>>>> FRANCIS >>>>> STOCKLEY and CORNELIUS STOCKLEY, minors, and heirs of CORNELIUS >>>> STOCKLEY, >>>>> deed, >>>>> in the sum of 245 pounds, 12 shillings, 8 pence. Whereas JOHN >>>>> WINGATE >>>>> recovered a judgment agnst SUTHEY KINF and the property was sold to >>>>> WINGATE. >>>>> Wit: D. TRAIN, SETH GRIFFITH. >>>>> Ackn 8 Nov. 1786 >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>> Thank you in advance for clearing up the above information for me. >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Michelle Burris Kenerly >>>>> (formerly of Bridgeville, DE). >>>>> >>>>> *************************************** >>>>> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>>>> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>>>> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>>>> 'unsubscribe' >>>>> without the quotes in >>>>> the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> *************************************** >>>>> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>>>> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>>>> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>>>> 'unsubscribe' >>>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>> >>>> *************************************** >>>> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>>> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>>> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in >>>> the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> *************************************** >>>> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>>> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>>> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> *************************************** >>> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in >>> the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> *************************************** >>> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >>*************************************** >>QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Elizabeth: No I haven't but a few years ago is when I was lucky enough to find his will in the Delaware Archives. I think we will be in DE in about a month and I will see what else I can find. Thanks again...you are ALWAYS so helpful and I appreciate it. Michelle ----- Original Message ----- From: <EMSCRS@aol.com> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [LDR] Sothey KING legal matter. > Have you tried the Public Finding Aids section of the Delaware Archives? > They have quite a bit, and even if the original documents are not > published > you can order whatever appears to be helpful. I find them a lot more > helpful than Maryland. > > Elizabeth > > > In a message dated 3/25/2014 8:29:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > bluejeans@ec.rr.com writes: > > Elizabeth, > Thank you once again for all of the information that you have provided. > I wish I were able to be in the Delmarva area right now and had access to > the records. I would be mostly interested in knowing about his > descendants > and get info on the census. Well, maybe some of the KING families may > know > about his matters with his family and not just his business connections. > I > think he had a plantation and other means of survival..like tobacco > crops, > > etc. > ttyl....thanks again you are always so helpful. > Michelle > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <EMSCRS@aol.com> > To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 6:06 AM > Subject: Re: [LDR] Sothey KING legal matter. > > >> Good luck with it all. Judy was correct that the complete document >> should >> make it all clearer, and you might also wish to check the will or >> Orphans >> Court records for the minor children and how they acquired this debt. >> It >> is faintly possible that Mr. King was guardian, and the debt arose out > of >> his >> handling of the estate. He might even have been their stepfather (it >> would not have been the first time). Reading every original document > you >> can >> find really opens a lot of windows on the people and what they were > doing. >> It also shows that we are all our own cousins. >> >> Elizabeth >> >> >> In a message dated 3/25/2014 6:56:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> bluejeans@ec.rr.com writes: >> >> Elizabeth... >> True, true how true. Thanks for the information..it was very helpful. >> Michelle >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <EMSCRS@aol.com> >> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:51 AM >> Subject: Re: [LDR] Sothey KING legal matter. >> >> >>> Land wasn't worth so much then as now, particularly when few people > had >>> a >>> lot of actual cash. When a good horse was valued at $2.00, it > changes >>> one's perspective. Nowadays, you could pay more than $2,000.00 to >> rescue >>> one >>> from a slaughter lot. >>> >>> Elizabeth >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 3/25/2014 5:52:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> bluejeans@ec.rr.com writes: >>> >>> Elizabeth: >>> Thank you for your prompt reply on my ancestor Sothey KING. After >>> reading your reply it made perfect sense and it seems like a big > price >> to >>> pay for a debt...so much acreage. I hope he had a good attorney. >>> Michelle >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <EMSCRS@aol.com> >>> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 7:35 PM >>> Subject: Re: [LDR] Sothey KING legal matter. >>> >>> >>>> It appears that Mr. King owed a debt to the minors, and Mr Wingate >>>> paid >>> it >>>> in exchange for a piece of property. >>>> >>>> If you can find the Orphans Court records, they might explain the >> nature >>>> of >>>> the debt (might have been originally owed to their father, and they >>>> inherited it). >>>> >>>> Elizabeth >>>> >>>> >>>> In a message dated 3/24/2014 8:31:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>>> bluejeans@ec.rr.com writes: >>>> >>>> In regards to my ancestor Sothey KING, I would like for someone to >>>> explain >>>> this legal document to me as it seems a little complicated. It > reads >>> to >>>> wit: >>>> (item or pg.# 326)...8 Nov.1786. Deed. JOHN WINGATE, yeoman, from >>>> PETER >>>> F. WRIGHT. Whereas there is a tr in Broad Creek Hund, 58 ac, pt/ o > a >>>> larger >>>> tr called Crooked Lane, originally granted by patent from > proprietary >>>> of >>>> MD to JOHN WILLEY (alias JOHN ALEXANDER WILLEY who by indenture >> bearing >>> >>>> this >>>> date 4 Nov 1762 sold 58 ac to SUTHEY KING recorded in Wor Co, MD, >> Liber >>>> E, >>>> folio 381, 382. Also another parcel adj above 58 ac and pt/o a lager >> tr >>>> of >>>> 400 ac granted to SUTHEY KING by virtue of a warrant from >>>> proprietary >> of >>>> Pa., now in the possession of BETTY GUMBY, widow, 200 ac. And >>>> whereas >>>> JOHN >>>> WINGATE at the request of SUTHEY KING, together SUTHEY KING by a >> certain >>>> obligation dated 7 Aug 1783 became bound unto WOODMAN STOCKLEY, >>>> FRANCIS >>>> STOCKLEY and CORNELIUS STOCKLEY, minors, and heirs of CORNELIUS >>> STOCKLEY, >>>> deed, >>>> in the sum of 245 pounds, 12 shillings, 8 pence. Whereas JOHN >>>> WINGATE >>>> recovered a judgment agnst SUTHEY KINF and the property was sold to >>>> WINGATE. >>>> Wit: D. TRAIN, SETH GRIFFITH. >>>> Ackn 8 Nov. 1786 >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> Thank you in advance for clearing up the above information for me. >>>> Regards, >>>> Michelle Burris Kenerly >>>> (formerly of Bridgeville, DE). >>>> >>>> *************************************** >>>> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>>> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>>> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in >>>> the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> *************************************** >>>> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>>> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>>> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> *************************************** >>> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in >>> the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> *************************************** >>> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> *************************************** >> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >> >> *************************************** >> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone Michelle Burris Kenerly <bluejeans@ec.rr.com> wrote: >Elizabeth, > Thank you once again for all of the information that you have provided. >I wish I were able to be in the Delmarva area right now and had access to >the records. I would be mostly interested in knowing about his descendants >and get info on the census. Well, maybe some of the KING families may know >about his matters with his family and not just his business connections. I >think he had a plantation and other means of survival..like tobacco crops, >etc. >ttyl....thanks again you are always so helpful. >Michelle >----- Original Message ----- >From: <EMSCRS@aol.com> >To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 6:06 AM >Subject: Re: [LDR] Sothey KING legal matter. > > >> Good luck with it all. Judy was correct that the complete document >> should >> make it all clearer, and you might also wish to check the will or Orphans >> Court records for the minor children and how they acquired this debt. It >> is faintly possible that Mr. King was guardian, and the debt arose out of >> his >> handling of the estate. He might even have been their stepfather (it >> would not have been the first time). Reading every original document you >> can >> find really opens a lot of windows on the people and what they were doing. >> It also shows that we are all our own cousins. >> >> Elizabeth >> >> >> In a message dated 3/25/2014 6:56:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> bluejeans@ec.rr.com writes: >> >> Elizabeth... >> True, true how true. Thanks for the information..it was very helpful. >> Michelle >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <EMSCRS@aol.com> >> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:51 AM >> Subject: Re: [LDR] Sothey KING legal matter. >> >> >>> Land wasn't worth so much then as now, particularly when few people had >>> a >>> lot of actual cash. When a good horse was valued at $2.00, it changes >>> one's perspective. Nowadays, you could pay more than $2,000.00 to >> rescue >>> one >>> from a slaughter lot. >>> >>> Elizabeth >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 3/25/2014 5:52:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> bluejeans@ec.rr.com writes: >>> >>> Elizabeth: >>> Thank you for your prompt reply on my ancestor Sothey KING. After >>> reading your reply it made perfect sense and it seems like a big price >> to >>> pay for a debt...so much acreage. I hope he had a good attorney. >>> Michelle >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <EMSCRS@aol.com> >>> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 7:35 PM >>> Subject: Re: [LDR] Sothey KING legal matter. >>> >>> >>>> It appears that Mr. King owed a debt to the minors, and Mr Wingate >>>> paid >>> it >>>> in exchange for a piece of property. >>>> >>>> If you can find the Orphans Court records, they might explain the >> nature >>>> of >>>> the debt (might have been originally owed to their father, and they >>>> inherited it). >>>> >>>> Elizabeth >>>> >>>> >>>> In a message dated 3/24/2014 8:31:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>>> bluejeans@ec.rr.com writes: >>>> >>>> In regards to my ancestor Sothey KING, I would like for someone to >>>> explain >>>> this legal document to me as it seems a little complicated. It reads >>> to >>>> wit: >>>> (item or pg.# 326)...8 Nov.1786. Deed. JOHN WINGATE, yeoman, from >>>> PETER >>>> F. WRIGHT. Whereas there is a tr in Broad Creek Hund, 58 ac, pt/ o a >>>> larger >>>> tr called Crooked Lane, originally granted by patent from proprietary >>>> of >>>> MD to JOHN WILLEY (alias JOHN ALEXANDER WILLEY who by indenture >> bearing >>> >>>> this >>>> date 4 Nov 1762 sold 58 ac to SUTHEY KING recorded in Wor Co, MD, >> Liber >>>> E, >>>> folio 381, 382. Also another parcel adj above 58 ac and pt/o a lager >> tr >>>> of >>>> 400 ac granted to SUTHEY KING by virtue of a warrant from proprietary >> of >>>> Pa., now in the possession of BETTY GUMBY, widow, 200 ac. And >>>> whereas >>>> JOHN >>>> WINGATE at the request of SUTHEY KING, together SUTHEY KING by a >> certain >>>> obligation dated 7 Aug 1783 became bound unto WOODMAN STOCKLEY, >>>> FRANCIS >>>> STOCKLEY and CORNELIUS STOCKLEY, minors, and heirs of CORNELIUS >>> STOCKLEY, >>>> deed, >>>> in the sum of 245 pounds, 12 shillings, 8 pence. Whereas JOHN >>>> WINGATE >>>> recovered a judgment agnst SUTHEY KINF and the property was sold to >>>> WINGATE. >>>> Wit: D. TRAIN, SETH GRIFFITH. >>>> Ackn 8 Nov. 1786 >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> Thank you in advance for clearing up the above information for me. >>>> Regards, >>>> Michelle Burris Kenerly >>>> (formerly of Bridgeville, DE). >>>> >>>> *************************************** >>>> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>>> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>>> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in >>>> the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> *************************************** >>>> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>>> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>>> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> *************************************** >>> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in >>> the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> *************************************** >>> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> *************************************** >> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >> >> *************************************** >> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >*************************************** >QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message