Hi Jim- Last night I wrote a substantial response to your question, thinking I could illustrate it with an attached image of the western half of the Beers 1868 Little Creek Hundred map. But... as everyone else probably knew, we cannot include attachments in emails to rootsweb.com. Therefore I have edited what I originally wrote into two parts- those comments that stand alone and those which really depend upon the map. I have mentioned this before, but, once again, if anyone wants me to send them the image privately, I will be happy to. My email address is tbphillips@verizon.net. I realize that some folks will have reasonable privacy concerns, but unfortunately I have no solution that doesn't involve sending the file to a private email address. I have seen other copies of this map on the internet, but none are particularly good. My copy is from a photo I took of the flattened map, which was then processed with Photoshop to enhance contrast & color saturation and to sharpen the lines & labels. The resolution is very, very good. Anyway... You are right, Jim, in suggesting that the same name appears in multiple places on the map, when a person could only live in one place at a time. It's hard to apply, however, a single rule to interpret what is going on. Sometimes it is exactly as you suggest, but in those cases the proximity of the places reinforces this implication. Also, there may simply be matching initials very close to the name. At other times the explanation is simply that a son of the same name (or initial) lives nearby. Finally, there are a lot of J Ellises, J Phillipses, J Coopers, etc. This arises, I think, because there were many popular names that began with J (James, Joseph, John, etc.). In these cases you just have to have more info to interpret who lives where. A survey of the male first names that appear in the English family leaves little doubt that T English was Thomas English. The question is "Which Thomas English was it?" It was very, very unlikely to have been the Thomas who was the son of Amy T Waller & James English. At this point I am relying on information from others: 1) he was living in Kentucky by 1810, & 2) he died in 1820. I haven't seen a doc confirming his death, but the Thomas English listed in the 1810 census is listed just above a William Waller & then Thomas English, Jr. I have seen a few examples of groups of persons from the area moving south (e.g. Waller & Ellis), and it certainly makes sense, so I think that Thomas is James & Amy's son. There are several other grandchildren & great grandchildren with Thomas as a first or middle name, but I haven't found any who were in Little Creek Hundred at that time. Just to be clear, however, this is not something I have done exhaustively. **************************************************************************** **************************************************************************** **************************************************************************** ****************************************** [Now the part that benefits from having the map] [I have attached a file showing all of Little Creek Hundred west of modern US 13. I'll be happy to send it directly to anyone who wants to see it.] District 50 is in the upper left-hand corner. In District 50, the road at the that sort-of parallels the river is very close to the modern-day "Old Sharptown Road" (Rd 494) and the combination of roads running east-west at the bottom of District 50 approximate the present Sharptown-Laurel Road (Rte 54), at least until they reach Mt. Pleasant Road (the road that parallels Tussocky Branch on its west side). The label, "T English", starts just beside the north-south MD/DE line almost exactly halfway down the edge of District 50. My experience is that the name alone indicates a homestead/working farm and other structures that are VERY close by, e.g. a store, sawmill ("S Mill"), or grist mill ("G Mill") implicitly belong to that person as well. I take it, therefore, that both the residence on the creek and one (possibly two) residences on the west side of the creek were his. If a structure indicates a residence only, I see the editors use the abbreviation "Res". I also sometimes see the abbreviation "Est", which I guess is a reference to "Estate", but I don't know if that means the estate of a deceased person or, less likely, something grander. The sawmill & farm just upstream from T English (i.e. towards the bottom right) belonged to J Ellis, who was my great great grandfather, Joseph H Ellis. Amy Threlkeld Waller was his great great aunt. The series of roads at the bottom of the map, paralleling the Transpeninsular Line approximate the (Mardela->) Delmar Road (Rte 24). Finally, two of the roads I mentioned earlier, Sarah Beach Road & Jersey Road appear on this map as well. Susan Beach Road (Spring Hill Road until it crosses Delmar Road) enters the map just to the right of the "M" in "MARYLAND" at the bottom, passes between the "S" & "T" in "Dist No. 49", and gradually angles toward the northeast into Laurel. Jersey Road enters at the bottom, just to the right of the "A" in "MARYLAND", changes its name to "Providence Church Road (Rd 504) and joins Susan Beach Road at the Episcopal Church (St Marks). I mention these latter details so you can identify the roads I was discussing earlier and so you can visualize where I was saying the "Waller Homestead" was located (immediately below the "A" in "MARYLAND"). ...So, in about 150 years, this T English had moved about 3 miles, as the crow flies. There are several other facts that you might find interesting. 1) St Marks Episcopal Church, at the corner of Susan Beach Road (Rd 509) & Providence Church Road (Rd 504) was founded in the 1800s by the Ellis, Ralph, & Freeny families. It was closed and deconsecrated by the Diocese of Delaware in the 1960s. The graveyard contains the graves of some Ralphs, Freenys & others, but the great majority are Ellises. 2) the area from just below St Marks, north along Susan Beach Road, almost up to the Sharptown-Laurel Road is known as "Ralphs" on the ADC maps of the area, and several Ralph families are still in the area, but I have never heard it called that. I attended St Marks until it was closed. By then the congregation was tiny (<30 persons each Sunday), but I never recall a Ralph family member attending- even at Christmas. I can't say that there were abssolutely no Freenys around in the 1960s, but I didn't know of any. 3) the small cemetery ("Cem") just south of St Marks, on the east side of Susan Beach Road was/is Ralphs Hill Cemetery. Ironically, there are only a few Ralphs there- most of the graves are Ellises, Baileys & Phillipses, and, from what I know of the the family members I recognize there, this was the cemetery for the Methodist members of the respective families. I have asked in the community, but no one I know is aware of where the church was that accompanied this cemetery. The only clue I have is the "M P Church" you can see on the map, at the corner of the road just below the cemetery. Closer to Laurel, up Susan Beach Road was another abandoned Methodist church at what was known as "Horsey's Grove" (in the small triangle formed by roads, just to the left of the "137" in "Dist No. 137"). 4) the rural community immediately surrounding the triangle formed by the Delmar Road (Rte 24), Providence Church Road & Susan Beach Road was known as "Providence". It still is called that by those of us who had immediate family in the area. 5) to the west, along Columbia Road (Rd 76) was, and still is, called (strangely enough) "Columbia". These days I have the impression that "Columbia" is used to refer to just about all of the southwestern corner of Little Creek Hundred, along both Columbia & Delmar Roads, as well as the area I just identified as "Providence". 6) Jersey Road & Providence Church Road were significant early colonial roads, because, together, they formed a route that followed the west side of the upper reaches of the Wicomico River, leading towards Portsville & Laurel by a path that encountered the least topographical resistance (in this case, the fewest streams). Laurel and Portsville were important towns as they were located on the south shore of Broad Creek, in two of the very few places where high ground came down to the river's edge. As you can see, many of the streams on the south side of the Nanticoke and Broad Creek were dammed for saw mills & grist mills, but only Tussocky Branch & Little Creek joined their respective larger tributary at a place with high, stable banks (Portsville & Laurel, respectively). Before 1859, Delmar was not a market center of any importance. 7) Spring Hill Road & Susan Beach Road, together formed a colonial road connecting the Salisbury-Barren Creek-Vienna Road, at the place where it is joined by a road from Quantico & Hebron, to Laurel. Again, this road follows a path essentially on high ground. Terry Phillips-Seitz -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Moore Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 11:53 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Cc: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [LDR] LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Digest, Vol 9, Issue 66 Terry, your note is not "too chatty" for this forum. Rather, it is highly informative to those of us who have ancestors from the area you are discussing. I appreciate the information you are offering. Question: you wrote that you found a "T English living " at a specific location. Am I correct in saying that the property was owned by T English but might not have been his home? This would account for numerous instances of the same name appearing several times in an area, but there was only one person with that name. 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Jeanne I think I emailed the pastor years ago but as I never got a reply, I may not have. We arrived in NC about an hour ago and I have not yet checked my notes. I will get back to you soon. LeeAnn Sent from Windows Mail From: Jeanne Barkley Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎May‎ ‎19‎, ‎2014 ‎9‎:‎48‎ ‎AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com LeeAnn, Did you ever contact Concord Church directly to see if they have any records?? Jeanne -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mithry@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 6:57 PM To: LDR Subject: Re: [LDR] Corcord Methodist Church, Concord, Sussex Jeane I do have the book by Kirk Cannon I incorrectly identified him as Doug (author of much wonderful Cannon material). I have Halls but much earlier in Somerset Co., MD. No Tubbs. Hearns are connected to most of the Lower Eastern Shore. I have the Hearn book if you need something. I am so sorry that I cannot give you more. Please keep in touch. Concord was not that big and perhaps we can find "lost" records, LeeAnn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanne Barkley" <jebarkley@comcast.net> To: "LDR" <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:05:27 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] Corcord Methodist Church, Concord, Sussex LeeAnn, I am looking for Halls and Tubbs. I know some of my Hall's are buried in the church cemetery but not Robert Hall who I am really looking for. I know he lived in Concord and died there in 1843. I believe the Hearn family is somehow connected to my Hall family. Do you have the book, "History of the Concord United Methodist Church and Sons, Daughters and Friends of Concord" written by Kirk Cannon? If not I would be happy to make a copy and mail it to you. Jeanne -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mithry@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:00 PM To: LDR Subject: Re: [LDR] Corcord Methodist Church, Concord, Sussex Jeanne, In a nutshell, no. I never received any answers. What I do know: 1) the Methodist archives at Baratt's Chapel does not have the records, 2) the pamphlet written by Doug Cannon about Concord Church contains little specific information on members in general and some info on the leaders of the church but mostly in the 20th century (my copy is boxed and awaiting movers and storage until the fall) and 3) what records there are date from after the 1860's and later (perhaps even beginning at the turn of the 20th century - my notes on that are boxed or in NC and I am now in DE). I will let you know about that if I can find them. What are you looking for? I am researching Concord families Jones, James, Fooks, Hearn, etc. I would be happy to share. LeeAnn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanne Barkley" <jebarkley@comcast.net> To: "LDR" <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 1:48:34 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] Corcord Methodist Church, Concord, Sussex LeeAnn, I was wondering if you ever received a reply to your message below concerning the records of Concord Methodist Church? I am also interested in finding these records. Jeanne -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mithry@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:16 PM To: LDR Subject: [LDR] Corcord Methodist Church, Concord, Sussex Would anyone know the location of the records of Concord Methodist Church, Concord, Sussex, DE? 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HI ALL, I JUST RECEIVED THIS EMAIL AND RIGHT AFTER IT CAME A NOTICE TELLING ME I WAS SUSSESSFULLY UNSUBSCRIBED. I SENT BACK REQUESTING REINSTATEMENT BUT DID ANYONE GET THIS TOO? NORAH HASTINGS COLLINS -----Original Message----- From: Lee Ann Dean Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 5:14 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Corcord Methodist Church, Concord, Sussex Jeanne I think I emailed the pastor years ago but as I never got a reply, I may not have. We arrived in NC about an hour ago and I have not yet checked my notes. I will get back to you soon. LeeAnn Sent from Windows Mail From: Jeanne Barkley Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎May‎ ‎19‎, ‎2014 ‎9‎:‎48‎ ‎AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com LeeAnn, Did you ever contact Concord Church directly to see if they have any records?? Jeanne -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mithry@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 6:57 PM To: LDR Subject: Re: [LDR] Corcord Methodist Church, Concord, Sussex Jeane I do have the book by Kirk Cannon I incorrectly identified him as Doug (author of much wonderful Cannon material). I have Halls but much earlier in Somerset Co., MD. No Tubbs. Hearns are connected to most of the Lower Eastern Shore. I have the Hearn book if you need something. I am so sorry that I cannot give you more. Please keep in touch. Concord was not that big and perhaps we can find "lost" records, LeeAnn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanne Barkley" <jebarkley@comcast.net> To: "LDR" <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:05:27 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] Corcord Methodist Church, Concord, Sussex LeeAnn, I am looking for Halls and Tubbs. I know some of my Hall's are buried in the church cemetery but not Robert Hall who I am really looking for. I know he lived in Concord and died there in 1843. I believe the Hearn family is somehow connected to my Hall family. Do you have the book, "History of the Concord United Methodist Church and Sons, Daughters and Friends of Concord" written by Kirk Cannon? If not I would be happy to make a copy and mail it to you. Jeanne -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mithry@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:00 PM To: LDR Subject: Re: [LDR] Corcord Methodist Church, Concord, Sussex Jeanne, In a nutshell, no. I never received any answers. What I do know: 1) the Methodist archives at Baratt's Chapel does not have the records, 2) the pamphlet written by Doug Cannon about Concord Church contains little specific information on members in general and some info on the leaders of the church but mostly in the 20th century (my copy is boxed and awaiting movers and storage until the fall) and 3) what records there are date from after the 1860's and later (perhaps even beginning at the turn of the 20th century - my notes on that are boxed or in NC and I am now in DE). I will let you know about that if I can find them. What are you looking for? I am researching Concord families Jones, James, Fooks, Hearn, etc. I would be happy to share. LeeAnn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanne Barkley" <jebarkley@comcast.net> To: "LDR" <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 1:48:34 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] Corcord Methodist Church, Concord, Sussex LeeAnn, I was wondering if you ever received a reply to your message below concerning the records of Concord Methodist Church? I am also interested in finding these records. Jeanne -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mithry@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:16 PM To: LDR Subject: [LDR] Corcord Methodist Church, Concord, Sussex Would anyone know the location of the records of Concord Methodist Church, Concord, Sussex, DE? Thank you for any leads, LeeAnn *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? 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The 1783 tax index has no data on a 1786 purchase. You do not say what "It" is that shows this purchase. You can find Worcester county land records through _www.mdlandrec.net_ (http://www.mdlandrec.net) . You need to register and they will send you a password. It is free. Good hunting, Judy *************************************** Clare writes: Worcester Co., MD Assessment of 1783 Index states that John Ball purchased 10 2/3 acres called Scotts Mistake. Does anyone know to whom this property was sold and when. It also shows that John Ball purchased 10 acres called Scotts Mistake on Jan. 19, 1786.

It's not LDR, it's Rootsweb's policy that allows no attachments on these lists. So you will have to send attachments to those who need the map. Liz J On 19 May 2014 10:29, Terry Phillips-Seitz <tbphillips@verizon.net> wrote: > Hi Everyone- > > > > Can anyone explain the policies of LDR regarding attachments/ Are they > simply not allowed? Of course, it's perfectly understandable if > attachments > are not permitted. > > > > Last night I tried to send an email with a jpg file attached, but it could > not be delivered, because it exceeded the maximum size of 5 MB. The file > was an image of the western half of Little Creek Hundred that was only 3.6 > MB in size. > > > > If attachments are not permitted, then I won't bother to try again by > reducing the file size (& resolution). I can, instead, send the text (re: > the Waller family living near the Transpeninsular LIne & other families > living in the Hundred) to LDR and send the image directly to anyone who > wants a copy. My email address is tbphillips@verizon.net. > > > > Terry Phillips-Seitz > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Everyone- Can anyone explain the policies of LDR regarding attachments/ Are they simply not allowed? Of course, it's perfectly understandable if attachments are not permitted. Last night I tried to send an email with a jpg file attached, but it could not be delivered, because it exceeded the maximum size of 5 MB. The file was an image of the western half of Little Creek Hundred that was only 3.6 MB in size. If attachments are not permitted, then I won't bother to try again by reducing the file size (& resolution). I can, instead, send the text (re: the Waller family living near the Transpeninsular LIne & other families living in the Hundred) to LDR and send the image directly to anyone who wants a copy. My email address is tbphillips@verizon.net. Terry Phillips-Seitz

LeeAnn, Did you ever contact Concord Church directly to see if they have any records?? Jeanne -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mithry@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 6:57 PM To: LDR Subject: Re: [LDR] Corcord Methodist Church, Concord, Sussex Jeane I do have the book by Kirk Cannon I incorrectly identified him as Doug (author of much wonderful Cannon material). I have Halls but much earlier in Somerset Co., MD. No Tubbs. Hearns are connected to most of the Lower Eastern Shore. I have the Hearn book if you need something. I am so sorry that I cannot give you more. Please keep in touch. Concord was not that big and perhaps we can find "lost" records, LeeAnn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanne Barkley" <jebarkley@comcast.net> To: "LDR" <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:05:27 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] Corcord Methodist Church, Concord, Sussex LeeAnn, I am looking for Halls and Tubbs. I know some of my Hall's are buried in the church cemetery but not Robert Hall who I am really looking for. I know he lived in Concord and died there in 1843. I believe the Hearn family is somehow connected to my Hall family. Do you have the book, "History of the Concord United Methodist Church and Sons, Daughters and Friends of Concord" written by Kirk Cannon? If not I would be happy to make a copy and mail it to you. Jeanne -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mithry@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:00 PM To: LDR Subject: Re: [LDR] Corcord Methodist Church, Concord, Sussex Jeanne, In a nutshell, no. I never received any answers. What I do know: 1) the Methodist archives at Baratt's Chapel does not have the records, 2) the pamphlet written by Doug Cannon about Concord Church contains little specific information on members in general and some info on the leaders of the church but mostly in the 20th century (my copy is boxed and awaiting movers and storage until the fall) and 3) what records there are date from after the 1860's and later (perhaps even beginning at the turn of the 20th century - my notes on that are boxed or in NC and I am now in DE). I will let you know about that if I can find them. What are you looking for? I am researching Concord families Jones, James, Fooks, Hearn, etc. I would be happy to share. LeeAnn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanne Barkley" <jebarkley@comcast.net> To: "LDR" <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 1:48:34 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] Corcord Methodist Church, Concord, Sussex LeeAnn, I was wondering if you ever received a reply to your message below concerning the records of Concord Methodist Church? I am also interested in finding these records. Jeanne -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mithry@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:16 PM To: LDR Subject: [LDR] Corcord Methodist Church, Concord, Sussex Would anyone know the location of the records of Concord Methodist Church, Concord, Sussex, DE? 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Terry, Is there any chance you know which Waller's are in the one off Jersey & Waller Roads? I think you mentioned you were going to take photos of it. Anne Ramsby -----Original Message----- From: Terry Phillips-Seitz Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 12:03 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Digest, Vol 9, Issue 66 Hi Karen- Threlkeld was Amy's mother's maiden name (Mary Threlkeld) Mary possibly was born in Herefordshire, England. There is a baptismal record (May 9, 1697) listing her father as John Threlkeld and her mother as Mary ____, although we can never be certain that this was the same Mary Threlkeld Waller. As you might guess, there are a lot of Marys & Johns out there for every surname and it would mean that she married Thomas Waller at an age of around 15 - 16 years. Nevertheless, Threlkeld is not currently a common name in lower Delmarva and neither do I think that historically was it common in the area between the Nanticoke & Wicomico Rivers. I have always taken this to indicate that she may have been "brought over" as a single woman (or and only daughter) by someone, which was not unheard of in the 1600s - very early 1700s. When I wrote earlier I forgot to point out your impression that Thomas & Amy Waller lived in Salisbury town is most likely confused with Salisbury's role as the economic center of Wicomico Hundred, which was the demographic area that included the Waller homestead. After the American Revolution, when Hundreds in Maryland were generally replaced by (voting) Districts, the area around the Waller homestead was known as Salisbury District (District No. 9). The question of where the records are is a bit complicated, and I'm sure others have a clearer idea about where the Green Hill records are, but even though I suggested that Old Spring Hill was their church, they also may have attended Old Christ Church, just outside Laurel, DE. A problem that arises is due to the fact that Old Green Hill, which was the home church for Stepney Parish is in the Diocese of Easton (MD), but is no longer an active church, and Old Christ Church, which was a chapel of ease in Stepney Parish, now falls within the Diocese of Delaware. My impression is that Old Green Hill's records might be in the care of St. Peter's in Salisbury and Old Christ Church's records are in the care of St. Philips, in Laurel. I am not certain of this and, because it affects so many of my/our ancestors, I have been intending to find out definitively. A corollary to this is the fact that records recorded at Old Green Hill ("Stepney Parish, Somerset County, MD") do not necessarily imply that the persons involved actually lived in Somerset County. This is true not only because (as Mike Hitch has suggested) of the ambiguity of the location of the state line in early days, but also because the location of the record (i.e. Somerset County) is erroneously taken to mean the location of the event. This is especially true for families such as the Wallers, who lived along the Transpeninsular Line, and members of their family were equally likely to have been living in Little Creek Hundred of Sussex County, DE. I plan to look into this within the next month and I'll share what I find (if others have not already). As Mike Hitch implied, I doubt that you will be able to determine the exact locations of the various properties you initially mentioned. These patent and homestead names seldom survive to more recent times, but other information does indicate that James, Amy & SOME of their children stayed in the area. I took another look at the Beers 1868 Little Creek Hundred plate and found a "T English" living in an area known as Ellis Grove, just west of Cod Creek in the section labelled "Dist. No. 50" (~ 5 miles from the Waller place). I found another English living near Riverton on the 1877 Sharptown District map. At least two of Elisha's brothers, Levin & Thomas were living in Little Creek Hundred in 1800 and Levin was buried near Riverton. As I mentioned earlier, members of the English family still live in the Riverton area. Furthermore, we can see that several of the children married members of families that were clustered near Waller Road &/or Jersey Road (Ralph, Waller, Calloway, Lowe, Nelson & Bailey). I found other family members living not too far away, but I fear this line of thought might be getting a bit too chatty for this forum. If you are interested communicating more, but without boring others, you are welcome to contact me directly at tbphillips@verizon.net. Regards, Terry -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karen Chaney Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2014 11:29 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Digest, Vol 9, Issue 66 Thank you so much for your very helpful information about the Blackwater Creek/Broad Creek area and the Waller family there. To Terry, 1-Since we are related through Amy Waller, do you happen to know where the Threlkeld comes into the line? The James English family was in the Salisbury/Laurel area from early 1700s-Inglish Lott 50 acres purchased 1742 Until the early part of the 1800's---after son Thomas sold King's Luck plantation. The bulk of my English relatives left Sussex, Delaware for Barren Co. Kentucky about 1790 so that explains why they are not in any later atlas of the area. 2-Does anyone know if "Old Spring Hill Episcopal Church" has any records still in existence and their location? The email written by "on Behalf of Miller's Choice" was very helpful as well in locating a close proximity to their land purchases while in the Stepney Paris/Laurel Sussex area. We now have a much better idea of location for each purchase. 3-Does anyone have an idea where to find a marriage record if it exists for 2nd wife to James English for Rachel Collins about 1770/1771 if they were still living in this same area of King's Luck and Stepney Parish part that became lower Sussex Co. Delaware after 1765? Appreciate everyone sharing their expertise! Karen -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of lower-delmarva-roots-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 1:00 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Digest, Vol 9, Issue 66 LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Administrivia For information about the Lower Delmarva Roots Mailing List, including list guidelines and instructions for unsubscribing and subscribing, see the LDRoots FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm Today's Topics: 1. Re: Ancestors from Salisbury and Somerset and moved to Sussex (Terry Phillips-Seitz) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 14:05:29 -0400 From: "Terry Phillips-Seitz" <tbphillips@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [LDR] Ancestors from Salisbury and Somerset and moved to Sussex To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <001c01cf6f9f$17c2cf80$47486e80$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sorry- I need to clarify a sentence (poor editing on my part). " I also believe that the fact that records of marriages, baptisms, etc. are recorded at Old Green Hill Church means that they took place in the immediate vicinity of the chapel." should read " I also believe that the fact that records of marriages, baptisms, etc. are recorded at Old Green Hill Church DOES NOT MEAN that they took place in the immediate vicinity of the chapel." Terry Phillips-Seitz -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Terry Phillips-Seitz Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 11:48 PM To: 'Miller's Choice'; lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Ancestors from Salisbury and Somerset and moved to Sussex Hi Karen- Amy Threlkeld Waller almost certainly was born and spent her early life very near the southwest corner of the intersection of Waller Road & Jersey Road in what is now Wicomico County, MD, approximately 1/2 mile from the Transpeninsular Line. Although there is some uncertainty as to just when her father, Thomas Waller, settled in this spot, it is pretty clear that this remained the family home place for many generations. There is, in fact, a Waller Family cemetery only about 100 yards to the west, down Waller Road, from the intersection. Furthermore, from the mid-seventeen hundreds until the mid-eighteen hundreds there were discrete sets of families that lived in this area along Waller Road, between Spring Hill Road and Jersey Road and even on to the east a ways toward what was to become Delmar Village. Those families lived and intermarried in surprisingly distinct groups- Wallers/Ellises/Lowes/Hearns & Bradleys/Coopers/Phillipses that were located at the two ends of this section of Waller Road, eventually intermarrying at normal frequencies in the larger community by around 1840. Of course, these were not exclusive groups- just ones whose families, due to the limitations of transportation & social venues, found it easier to marry very close to home, as it were. I am especially clear on the relationship between the Wallers & their affiliates, because they were all my own antecedents, and the number of intermarriages, especially between the Wallers & their close neighbors (perhaps their closest), the Ellises, provide compelling evidence that both families stayed there and/or very close to that location throughout the beginning of the twentieth century. Amy Threlkeld Waller was my 5th great grand aunt. Although I am not aware of any Englishes nearby the Waller homestead, the "road from Salisbury to Laurel" surely was the Jersey Road. There still are many English family members in the area- certainly in Salisbury and quite a few in Riverton (on the Nanticoke, between Sharptown & Mardela). I also believe that the fact that records of marriages, baptisms, etc. are recorded at Old Green Hill Church means that they took place in the immediate vicinity of the chapel. It is more likely that those services took place in Old Spring Hill Episcopal church, or its antecedent structure, or some family home in the area. Old Spring Hill (St Paul's Episcopal Church), about 6 miles away on US 50, near Hebron, MD, and Old Christ Church, near Laurel, DE, were so-called "chapels of ease" for Stepney Parish, whose home chapel was at Green Hill. Chapels of ease were essentially early Anglican "churches/chapels" that were attended by circuit riders, and had no permanent priest in attendance. I attended Old Spring Hill until I left home for college and should be more certain of this, but I do believe that until St. Paul's became a permanent parish church, all of its records were kept at Green Hill. As to the location of the headwaters of the Nanticoke, Broad Creek and Blackwater, again I would be cautious. Blackwater is a lesser branch of Barren Creek and clearly has been channelized for drainage. I don't know when this was done, but the extent of the channelized drainage ditches in the area suggests that it might have been a CCC project. In any event, Blackwater Creek never gets within 2 miles of Broad Creek proper. The drainage catchments of Tussocky Branch and Little Creek (both tributaries of Broad Creek) do abut that of Blackwater, but, again, where they approach each other we see heavily channelized ditches/creeks. It is almost certain that the peripheries of these streams were simply wetlands that were gradually drained over the years in a way similar to the way woods were cleared for fields. The nearest creek that drains directly into the Nanticoke River is Cod Creek, but it doesn't come that close to the Blackwater drainage area. I believe that "the main road that leads to Broad Creek" most likely was Susan Beach Road (Rd 509) or Mt. Pleasant Road (Rd 514), at least in the area of the Nanticoke River or Broad Creek. Susan Beach Road And Jersey Road were the two principal ways to go from Salisbury towards Portsville and Laurel in the late eighteenth & early nineteenth century. Jersey Road joined Susan Beach Road about two miles into Delaware, just north of the Blackwater watershed. Susan Beach Road went to Laurel and Mt. Pleasant Road branched off to go to Portsville. At that point, both of these latter roads were well within the Broad Creek watershed. It seems to me that Broad Creek and the Nanticoke are less ambiguous datums than the "head of a branch called Blackwater". I own an original copy of the Beers 1868 Atlas of Delaware and I took a quick look at the Little Creek & Broad Creek Hundreds, particularly those parts close to Laurel and Portsville. My experience is that these maps are very good indicators of the locations of family homesteads, both in the present day (at least when I was growing up in the 60s) and implicitly at least back to the first part of the 19th century. Although there were a few families that had a more ephemeral presence in the area, pretty much every family that moved into this area stayed put (excepting, of course, those family members who moved away completely). In my own families, generational movement was relatively slow and took place along Jersey Road towards Laurel or along Columbia Road towards Sharptown. I could not find any English family names on these maps in 1868, including in the map of Laurel. I realize that generalizations such as some of the ones I present are invitations to cite exceptions, but I am confident that they are true for the families I know, including the Wallers. Although by 1868 they had spread to the north (even North of Laurel), from the latter half of the nineteenth century on some of the Waller family remained close to Delmar. I hope this helps. Terry Phillips-Seitz -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Miller's Choice Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 1:39 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Ancestors from Salisbury and Somerset and moved to Sussex Karen, ? I think Mike is correct that the English family never moved an inch.? The boundary lines were drawn around them.? It might seem as if they moved, because of the Stepney Parish Records, but what you have to realize is that there was a chapel of ease for Stepney Parish near Laurel, Delaware.? The current structure is called Old Christ Church and was built in 1772, but there was an earlier one.? All the records were maintained as a parish, but the events did not all take place at old Green Hill.? If you examine the Stepney Parish Records, you can see that they are all written in one hand, which tells me that they were copied from original records. ?It's been several decades since I really looked at what we term the "originals" but that is what I remember and at the time I think I even deduced that what we now call the originals were probably penned in the 1880s.? Now, from my examination of the Somerset Parish records, I was able to ascertain that not all rectors were good record keepers.? There are tenures of rectors where not a single marriage or baptism was performed.? I dare say the rectors of Stepney Parish were much the same way.? Even modern rectors are known to lapse in such important recordings.? True story: we had a new rector some quarter century ago at St. Andrew's, Somerset Parish.? He came to me and asked for the marriage date of a friend of mine, also a member of the church, because he had deduced she had been married at the church, but there was no record of it, nor the baptism of her first child.? I had the information and supplied both dates. Why he didn't just ask my friend, I do not know!? And then, some years later, I was asked by yet another rector when my daughter was baptized as he had found a note where it said she was to be, but yet there was no date entered in the records, so I had to find the baptismal certificate. This stuff happens all the time. So, what I'm saying is, the fact that Elisha was not recorded does not mean he is not a child of James English. You'll just have to find another record to prove the connection. ? On 3 June 1756 John Megee, planter, wife Margaret consenting, sold to James English, planter for five shillings, 50 acres of Kings Luck beginning at a marked white oak standing on the east side of the main road that leads to Broad Creek about 50 yards from Phillip King's house lying on the east side of the Nanticoke river about two miles to the north of the head of a branch called Blackwater (Worc D:129). ? If you Google Blackwater Branch and then follow it, that might help somewhat. The Laurel area was once called Broad Creek.? So I'm guessing that King's Luck and probably the other properties were between Delmar and Laurel maybe three to four miles to the west of Route 13.? The trick is where the head of Blackwater Branch is.? I know that I am always surprised where the "head" of a body of water is now, usually just a trickle, barely meriting a culvert, and you really have to know a local person who just "knows".? I'd make inquiries at the Laurel Historical Society for such a person. Perhaps there is someone on this list who makes it their business to know where the heads of creeks are in Sussex County, the way I do for Somerset County. ? There are no records that I know of that are "showing old plantation locations or a listing of property taxes to show neighbors, etc?" You mentioned probate records but did not say if there was a "rest and residue" clause in the will nor the date of the will.? If other children received the remainder of the estate, even though unnamed, they could show up in a distribution of the estate. ? On Sunday, May 11, 2014 7:49 PM, Karen Chaney <lifelonglearner2012@outlook.com> wrote: Dear Listers, > >We are new to this list but have been doing family history for many years. >We've been searching for some proof that our Elisha English born 2 >March >1767 is the son of James and Amey Waller ENGLISH who lived in Salisbury >and married Stepney Parish 1743, and had several of their children >recorded in the Old Green Hill Church there-but the record ends and >does not include >1767 births for this family.? By 1776 the family is found in Little >Creek >100 in Sussex Co., Delaware.? the mother, Amey/Amy is said to have died >about 1770-1771 but no evidence has been found. > >Question-Does anyone have any suggestions for original sources for this >English/Waller family from 1767-1776 in this region?? We have found >some land records referring to the plantation "King's Luck" ,which in >James English probate he left to the 2 oldest sons, and and "Inglish's >Lott" and Englishes Adventure. > >Here are the land deed references: > >? Land Records of James English in Wicomico County > >Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Certificate > >Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 7, p. 323 0 >0 MSA S 1601-1267 > >Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Patent > >Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 6, p. 28 0 0 >MSA S 1601-1268 > >SOMERSET MD Land records: > >Inglishes Lott, James Inglish, 50 Acres 1740/10/08 Unpatented >Certificate >342 3 0 MSA S 1229-353 > >Inglishes Lott, 50 Acres; Unpatented Certificate > >Developer/Owner: Inglish, James 1748 Unpatented Certificate 342 0 0 MSA >S >1599-2399 > >"James English of Somerset" > >Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acres 1752/10/17 Patented 17 Oct. >1752 Certificate 815 3 0 MSA S 1206-890-see image > >Reference: Patented Certificate 815 > >Date: 1752/10/17 > >Description: Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acres > >Dear Listers, > >We are new to this list but have been doing family history for many years. >We've been searching for some proof that our Elisha English born 2 >March >1767 is the son of James and Amey Waller ENGLISH who lived in Salisbury >and married Stepney Parish 1743, and had several of their children >recorded in the Old Green Hill Church there-but the record ends and >does not include >1767 births for this family.? By 1776 the family is found in Little >Creek >100 in Sussex Co., Delaware.? the mother, Amey/Amy is said to have died >about 1770-1771 but no evidence has been found. > >Question-Does anyone have any suggestions for original sources for this >English/Waller family from 1767-1776 in this region?? We have found >some land records referring to the plantation "King's Luck" ,which in >James English probate he left to the 2 oldest sons, and and "Inglish's >Lott" and Englishes Adventure. > >Here are the land deed references: > >? Land Records of James English in Wicomico County > >Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Certificate > >Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 7, p. 323 0 >0 MSA S 1601-1267 > >Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Patent > >Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 6, p. 28 0 0 >MSA S 1601-1268 > >SOMERSET MD Land records: > >Inglishes Lott, James Inglish, 50 Acres 1740/10/08 Unpatented >Certificate >342 3 0 MSA S 1229-353 > >Inglishes Lott, 50 Acres; Unpatented Certificate > >Developer/Owner: Inglish, James 1748 Unpatented Certificate 342 0 0 MSA >S >1599-2399 > >"James English of Somerset" > >Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acres 1752/10/17 Patented 17 Oct. >1752 Certificate 815 3 0 MSA S 1206-890-see image > >Reference: Patented Certificate 815 > >Date: 1752/10/17 > >Description: Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acr > > > > > >This ENGLISH Family residence was said to be on the road between Laurel >and Salisbury > >Is there any maps showing old plantation locations or a listing of >property taxes to show neighbors, etc? > >Thank you for any help you may share. > >Sincerely, > >This ENGLISH Family residence was said to be on the road between Laurel >and Salisbury > >Is there any maps showing old plantation locations or a listing of >property taxes to show neighbors, etc? > >Thank you for any help you may share. > >Sincerely, > > > >*************************************** >QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? 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Worcester Co., MD Assessment of 1783 Index states that John Ball purchased 10 2/3 acres called Scotts Mistake. Does anyone know to whom this property was sold and when. It also shows that John Ball purchased 10 acres called Scotts Mistake on Jan. 19, 1786. Thanks so very much for your help. Clare ____________________________________________________________ NetZero now offers 4G mobile broadband. Sign up now. http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT1

Jeane   I do have the book by Kirk Cannon  I incorrectly identified him as Doug (author of much wonderful Cannon material).  I have Halls but much earlier in Somerset Co., MD. No Tubbs.  Hearns are connected to most of the Lower Eastern Shore.  I have the Hearn book if you need something. I am so sorry that I cannot give you more.  Please keep in touch.  Concord was not that big and perhaps we can find "lost" records, LeeAnn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanne Barkley" <jebarkley@comcast.net> To: "LDR" <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:05:27 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] Corcord Methodist Church, Concord, Sussex LeeAnn, I am looking for Halls and Tubbs.  I know some of my Hall's are buried in the church cemetery but not Robert Hall who I am really looking for.  I know he lived in Concord and died there in 1843.  I believe the Hearn family is somehow connected to my Hall family.   Do you have the book, "History of the Concord United Methodist Church and Sons, Daughters and Friends of Concord" written by Kirk Cannon?  If not I would be happy to make a copy and mail it to you. Jeanne -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mithry@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:00 PM To: LDR Subject: Re: [LDR] Corcord Methodist Church, Concord, Sussex Jeanne,    In a nutshell, no.  I never received any answers.  What I do know: 1) the Methodist archives at Baratt's Chapel does not have the records, 2) the pamphlet written by Doug Cannon about Concord Church contains little specific information on members in general and some info on the leaders of the church but mostly in the 20th century (my copy is boxed and awaiting movers and storage until the fall) and 3) what records there are date from after the 1860's and later (perhaps even beginning at the turn of the 20th century - my notes on that are boxed or in NC and I am now in DE).  I will let you know about that if I can find them.    What are you looking for?  I am researching Concord families Jones, James, Fooks, Hearn, etc. I would be happy to share. LeeAnn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanne Barkley" <jebarkley@comcast.net> To: "LDR" <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 1:48:34 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] Corcord Methodist Church, Concord, Sussex LeeAnn, I was wondering if you ever received a reply to your message below concerning the records of Concord Methodist Church?  I am also interested in finding these records. Jeanne -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mithry@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:16 PM To: LDR Subject: [LDR] Corcord Methodist Church, Concord, Sussex Would anyone know the location of the records of Concord Methodist Church, Concord, Sussex, DE? Thank you for any leads, LeeAnn *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jeanne,   In a nutshell, no.  I never received any answers.  What I do know: 1) the Methodist archives at Baratt's Chapel does not have the records, 2) the pamphlet written by Doug Cannon about Concord Church contains little specific information on members in general and some info on the leaders of the church but mostly in the 20th century (my copy is boxed and awaiting movers and storage until the fall) and 3) what records there are date from after the 1860's and later (perhaps even beginning at the turn of the 20th century - my notes on that are boxed or in NC and I am now in DE).  I will let you know about that if I can find them.   What are you looking for?  I am researching Concord families Jones, James, Fooks, Hearn, etc. I would be happy to share. LeeAnn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanne Barkley" <jebarkley@comcast.net> To: "LDR" <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 1:48:34 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] Corcord Methodist Church, Concord, Sussex LeeAnn, I was wondering if you ever received a reply to your message below concerning the records of Concord Methodist Church?  I am also interested in finding these records. Jeanne -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mithry@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:16 PM To: LDR Subject: [LDR] Corcord Methodist Church, Concord, Sussex Would anyone know the location of the records of Concord Methodist Church, Concord, Sussex, DE? Thank you for any leads, LeeAnn *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

LeeAnn, I am looking for Halls and Tubbs. I know some of my Hall's are buried in the church cemetery but not Robert Hall who I am really looking for. I know he lived in Concord and died there in 1843. I believe the Hearn family is somehow connected to my Hall family. Do you have the book, "History of the Concord United Methodist Church and Sons, Daughters and Friends of Concord" written by Kirk Cannon? If not I would be happy to make a copy and mail it to you. Jeanne -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mithry@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:00 PM To: LDR Subject: Re: [LDR] Corcord Methodist Church, Concord, Sussex Jeanne, In a nutshell, no. I never received any answers. What I do know: 1) the Methodist archives at Baratt's Chapel does not have the records, 2) the pamphlet written by Doug Cannon about Concord Church contains little specific information on members in general and some info on the leaders of the church but mostly in the 20th century (my copy is boxed and awaiting movers and storage until the fall) and 3) what records there are date from after the 1860's and later (perhaps even beginning at the turn of the 20th century - my notes on that are boxed or in NC and I am now in DE). I will let you know about that if I can find them. What are you looking for? I am researching Concord families Jones, James, Fooks, Hearn, etc. I would be happy to share. LeeAnn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanne Barkley" <jebarkley@comcast.net> To: "LDR" <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 1:48:34 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] Corcord Methodist Church, Concord, Sussex LeeAnn, I was wondering if you ever received a reply to your message below concerning the records of Concord Methodist Church? I am also interested in finding these records. Jeanne -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mithry@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:16 PM To: LDR Subject: [LDR] Corcord Methodist Church, Concord, Sussex Would anyone know the location of the records of Concord Methodist Church, Concord, Sussex, DE? Thank you for any leads, LeeAnn *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

LeeAnn, I was wondering if you ever received a reply to your message below concerning the records of Concord Methodist Church? I am also interested in finding these records. Jeanne -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mithry@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:16 PM To: LDR Subject: [LDR] Corcord Methodist Church, Concord, Sussex Would anyone know the location of the records of Concord Methodist Church, Concord, Sussex, DE? Thank you for any leads, LeeAnn *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Terry, your note is not "too chatty" for this forum. Rather, it is highly informative to those of us who have ancestors from the area you are discussing. I appreciate the information you are offering. Question: you wrote that you found a "T English living " at a specific location. Am I correct in saying that the property was owned by T English but might not have been his home? This would account for numerous instances of the same name appearing several times in an area, but there was only one person with that name. Jim Moore Sent from iPhone > On May 18, 2014, at 12:03 AM, "Terry Phillips-Seitz" <tbphillips@verizon.net> wrote: > > maiden name (Mary Threlkeld)

We've been searching for other parish records for our family in the 1770's in the Stepney Parish/Laurel Delaware area. Our family was Episcopalian and the Christ Episcopal Church seem to be located near their land as it is a few miles from Laurel. After an internet search it seems that their records might be found at the following: The Christ Church (Broad Creek, Delaware). Register of Christ Church, Broad Creek, and of St. Philip's Chapel, Laurel, Sussex County, Delaware. N.p., n.d. LOCATION: Morris Library - Special Collections (Del Folio F174 .L3 C54)". The records of the church register for the Broad Creek chapel (the Christ Church) are in the special collections at the Morris Library, which is in Newark, Delaware. Since we live about 3,000 miles away J we were wondering if anyone is living nearby or might be planning an outing this summer to Newark if this is the only way to see any records of this church? Thank you for your consideration, Karen

Hi Karen- Threlkeld was Amy's mother's maiden name (Mary Threlkeld) Mary possibly was born in Herefordshire, England. There is a baptismal record (May 9, 1697) listing her father as John Threlkeld and her mother as Mary ____, although we can never be certain that this was the same Mary Threlkeld Waller. As you might guess, there are a lot of Marys & Johns out there for every surname and it would mean that she married Thomas Waller at an age of around 15 - 16 years. Nevertheless, Threlkeld is not currently a common name in lower Delmarva and neither do I think that historically was it common in the area between the Nanticoke & Wicomico Rivers. I have always taken this to indicate that she may have been "brought over" as a single woman (or and only daughter) by someone, which was not unheard of in the 1600s - very early 1700s. When I wrote earlier I forgot to point out your impression that Thomas & Amy Waller lived in Salisbury town is most likely confused with Salisbury's role as the economic center of Wicomico Hundred, which was the demographic area that included the Waller homestead. After the American Revolution, when Hundreds in Maryland were generally replaced by (voting) Districts, the area around the Waller homestead was known as Salisbury District (District No. 9). The question of where the records are is a bit complicated, and I'm sure others have a clearer idea about where the Green Hill records are, but even though I suggested that Old Spring Hill was their church, they also may have attended Old Christ Church, just outside Laurel, DE. A problem that arises is due to the fact that Old Green Hill, which was the home church for Stepney Parish is in the Diocese of Easton (MD), but is no longer an active church, and Old Christ Church, which was a chapel of ease in Stepney Parish, now falls within the Diocese of Delaware. My impression is that Old Green Hill's records might be in the care of St. Peter's in Salisbury and Old Christ Church's records are in the care of St. Philips, in Laurel. I am not certain of this and, because it affects so many of my/our ancestors, I have been intending to find out definitively. A corollary to this is the fact that records recorded at Old Green Hill ("Stepney Parish, Somerset County, MD") do not necessarily imply that the persons involved actually lived in Somerset County. This is true not only because (as Mike Hitch has suggested) of the ambiguity of the location of the state line in early days, but also because the location of the record (i.e. Somerset County) is erroneously taken to mean the location of the event. This is especially true for families such as the Wallers, who lived along the Transpeninsular Line, and members of their family were equally likely to have been living in Little Creek Hundred of Sussex County, DE. I plan to look into this within the next month and I'll share what I find (if others have not already). As Mike Hitch implied, I doubt that you will be able to determine the exact locations of the various properties you initially mentioned. These patent and homestead names seldom survive to more recent times, but other information does indicate that James, Amy & SOME of their children stayed in the area. I took another look at the Beers 1868 Little Creek Hundred plate and found a "T English" living in an area known as Ellis Grove, just west of Cod Creek in the section labelled "Dist. No. 50" (~ 5 miles from the Waller place). I found another English living near Riverton on the 1877 Sharptown District map. At least two of Elisha's brothers, Levin & Thomas were living in Little Creek Hundred in 1800 and Levin was buried near Riverton. As I mentioned earlier, members of the English family still live in the Riverton area. Furthermore, we can see that several of the children married members of families that were clustered near Waller Road &/or Jersey Road (Ralph, Waller, Calloway, Lowe, Nelson & Bailey). I found other family members living not too far away, but I fear this line of thought might be getting a bit too chatty for this forum. If you are interested communicating more, but without boring others, you are welcome to contact me directly at tbphillips@verizon.net. Regards, Terry -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karen Chaney Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2014 11:29 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Digest, Vol 9, Issue 66 Thank you so much for your very helpful information about the Blackwater Creek/Broad Creek area and the Waller family there. To Terry, 1-Since we are related through Amy Waller, do you happen to know where the Threlkeld comes into the line? The James English family was in the Salisbury/Laurel area from early 1700s-Inglish Lott 50 acres purchased 1742 Until the early part of the 1800's---after son Thomas sold King's Luck plantation. The bulk of my English relatives left Sussex, Delaware for Barren Co. Kentucky about 1790 so that explains why they are not in any later atlas of the area. 2-Does anyone know if "Old Spring Hill Episcopal Church" has any records still in existence and their location? The email written by "on Behalf of Miller's Choice" was very helpful as well in locating a close proximity to their land purchases while in the Stepney Paris/Laurel Sussex area. We now have a much better idea of location for each purchase. 3-Does anyone have an idea where to find a marriage record if it exists for 2nd wife to James English for Rachel Collins about 1770/1771 if they were still living in this same area of King's Luck and Stepney Parish part that became lower Sussex Co. Delaware after 1765? Appreciate everyone sharing their expertise! Karen -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of lower-delmarva-roots-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 1:00 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Digest, Vol 9, Issue 66 LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Administrivia For information about the Lower Delmarva Roots Mailing List, including list guidelines and instructions for unsubscribing and subscribing, see the LDRoots FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm Today's Topics: 1. Re: Ancestors from Salisbury and Somerset and moved to Sussex (Terry Phillips-Seitz) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 14:05:29 -0400 From: "Terry Phillips-Seitz" <tbphillips@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [LDR] Ancestors from Salisbury and Somerset and moved to Sussex To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <001c01cf6f9f$17c2cf80$47486e80$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sorry- I need to clarify a sentence (poor editing on my part). " I also believe that the fact that records of marriages, baptisms, etc. are recorded at Old Green Hill Church means that they took place in the immediate vicinity of the chapel." should read " I also believe that the fact that records of marriages, baptisms, etc. are recorded at Old Green Hill Church DOES NOT MEAN that they took place in the immediate vicinity of the chapel." Terry Phillips-Seitz -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Terry Phillips-Seitz Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 11:48 PM To: 'Miller's Choice'; lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Ancestors from Salisbury and Somerset and moved to Sussex Hi Karen- Amy Threlkeld Waller almost certainly was born and spent her early life very near the southwest corner of the intersection of Waller Road & Jersey Road in what is now Wicomico County, MD, approximately 1/2 mile from the Transpeninsular Line. Although there is some uncertainty as to just when her father, Thomas Waller, settled in this spot, it is pretty clear that this remained the family home place for many generations. There is, in fact, a Waller Family cemetery only about 100 yards to the west, down Waller Road, from the intersection. Furthermore, from the mid-seventeen hundreds until the mid-eighteen hundreds there were discrete sets of families that lived in this area along Waller Road, between Spring Hill Road and Jersey Road and even on to the east a ways toward what was to become Delmar Village. Those families lived and intermarried in surprisingly distinct groups- Wallers/Ellises/Lowes/Hearns & Bradleys/Coopers/Phillipses that were located at the two ends of this section of Waller Road, eventually intermarrying at normal frequencies in the larger community by around 1840. Of course, these were not exclusive groups- just ones whose families, due to the limitations of transportation & social venues, found it easier to marry very close to home, as it were. I am especially clear on the relationship between the Wallers & their affiliates, because they were all my own antecedents, and the number of intermarriages, especially between the Wallers & their close neighbors (perhaps their closest), the Ellises, provide compelling evidence that both families stayed there and/or very close to that location throughout the beginning of the twentieth century. Amy Threlkeld Waller was my 5th great grand aunt. Although I am not aware of any Englishes nearby the Waller homestead, the "road from Salisbury to Laurel" surely was the Jersey Road. There still are many English family members in the area- certainly in Salisbury and quite a few in Riverton (on the Nanticoke, between Sharptown & Mardela). I also believe that the fact that records of marriages, baptisms, etc. are recorded at Old Green Hill Church means that they took place in the immediate vicinity of the chapel. It is more likely that those services took place in Old Spring Hill Episcopal church, or its antecedent structure, or some family home in the area. Old Spring Hill (St Paul's Episcopal Church), about 6 miles away on US 50, near Hebron, MD, and Old Christ Church, near Laurel, DE, were so-called "chapels of ease" for Stepney Parish, whose home chapel was at Green Hill. Chapels of ease were essentially early Anglican "churches/chapels" that were attended by circuit riders, and had no permanent priest in attendance. I attended Old Spring Hill until I left home for college and should be more certain of this, but I do believe that until St. Paul's became a permanent parish church, all of its records were kept at Green Hill. As to the location of the headwaters of the Nanticoke, Broad Creek and Blackwater, again I would be cautious. Blackwater is a lesser branch of Barren Creek and clearly has been channelized for drainage. I don't know when this was done, but the extent of the channelized drainage ditches in the area suggests that it might have been a CCC project. In any event, Blackwater Creek never gets within 2 miles of Broad Creek proper. The drainage catchments of Tussocky Branch and Little Creek (both tributaries of Broad Creek) do abut that of Blackwater, but, again, where they approach each other we see heavily channelized ditches/creeks. It is almost certain that the peripheries of these streams were simply wetlands that were gradually drained over the years in a way similar to the way woods were cleared for fields. The nearest creek that drains directly into the Nanticoke River is Cod Creek, but it doesn't come that close to the Blackwater drainage area. I believe that "the main road that leads to Broad Creek" most likely was Susan Beach Road (Rd 509) or Mt. Pleasant Road (Rd 514), at least in the area of the Nanticoke River or Broad Creek. Susan Beach Road And Jersey Road were the two principal ways to go from Salisbury towards Portsville and Laurel in the late eighteenth & early nineteenth century. Jersey Road joined Susan Beach Road about two miles into Delaware, just north of the Blackwater watershed. Susan Beach Road went to Laurel and Mt. Pleasant Road branched off to go to Portsville. At that point, both of these latter roads were well within the Broad Creek watershed. It seems to me that Broad Creek and the Nanticoke are less ambiguous datums than the "head of a branch called Blackwater". I own an original copy of the Beers 1868 Atlas of Delaware and I took a quick look at the Little Creek & Broad Creek Hundreds, particularly those parts close to Laurel and Portsville. My experience is that these maps are very good indicators of the locations of family homesteads, both in the present day (at least when I was growing up in the 60s) and implicitly at least back to the first part of the 19th century. Although there were a few families that had a more ephemeral presence in the area, pretty much every family that moved into this area stayed put (excepting, of course, those family members who moved away completely). In my own families, generational movement was relatively slow and took place along Jersey Road towards Laurel or along Columbia Road towards Sharptown. I could not find any English family names on these maps in 1868, including in the map of Laurel. I realize that generalizations such as some of the ones I present are invitations to cite exceptions, but I am confident that they are true for the families I know, including the Wallers. Although by 1868 they had spread to the north (even North of Laurel), from the latter half of the nineteenth century on some of the Waller family remained close to Delmar. I hope this helps. Terry Phillips-Seitz -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Miller's Choice Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 1:39 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Ancestors from Salisbury and Somerset and moved to Sussex Karen, ? I think Mike is correct that the English family never moved an inch.? The boundary lines were drawn around them.? It might seem as if they moved, because of the Stepney Parish Records, but what you have to realize is that there was a chapel of ease for Stepney Parish near Laurel, Delaware.? The current structure is called Old Christ Church and was built in 1772, but there was an earlier one.? All the records were maintained as a parish, but the events did not all take place at old Green Hill.? If you examine the Stepney Parish Records, you can see that they are all written in one hand, which tells me that they were copied from original records. ?It's been several decades since I really looked at what we term the "originals" but that is what I remember and at the time I think I even deduced that what we now call the originals were probably penned in the 1880s.? Now, from my examination of the Somerset Parish records, I was able to ascertain that not all rectors were good record keepers.? There are tenures of rectors where not a single marriage or baptism was performed.? I dare say the rectors of Stepney Parish were much the same way.? Even modern rectors are known to lapse in such important recordings.? True story: we had a new rector some quarter century ago at St. Andrew's, Somerset Parish.? He came to me and asked for the marriage date of a friend of mine, also a member of the church, because he had deduced she had been married at the church, but there was no record of it, nor the baptism of her first child.? I had the information and supplied both dates. Why he didn't just ask my friend, I do not know!? And then, some years later, I was asked by yet another rector when my daughter was baptized as he had found a note where it said she was to be, but yet there was no date entered in the records, so I had to find the baptismal certificate. This stuff happens all the time. So, what I'm saying is, the fact that Elisha was not recorded does not mean he is not a child of James English. You'll just have to find another record to prove the connection. ? On 3 June 1756 John Megee, planter, wife Margaret consenting, sold to James English, planter for five shillings, 50 acres of Kings Luck beginning at a marked white oak standing on the east side of the main road that leads to Broad Creek about 50 yards from Phillip King's house lying on the east side of the Nanticoke river about two miles to the north of the head of a branch called Blackwater (Worc D:129). ? If you Google Blackwater Branch and then follow it, that might help somewhat. The Laurel area was once called Broad Creek.? So I'm guessing that King's Luck and probably the other properties were between Delmar and Laurel maybe three to four miles to the west of Route 13.? The trick is where the head of Blackwater Branch is.? I know that I am always surprised where the "head" of a body of water is now, usually just a trickle, barely meriting a culvert, and you really have to know a local person who just "knows".? I'd make inquiries at the Laurel Historical Society for such a person. Perhaps there is someone on this list who makes it their business to know where the heads of creeks are in Sussex County, the way I do for Somerset County. ? There are no records that I know of that are "showing old plantation locations or a listing of property taxes to show neighbors, etc?" You mentioned probate records but did not say if there was a "rest and residue" clause in the will nor the date of the will.? If other children received the remainder of the estate, even though unnamed, they could show up in a distribution of the estate. ? On Sunday, May 11, 2014 7:49 PM, Karen Chaney <lifelonglearner2012@outlook.com> wrote: Dear Listers, > >We are new to this list but have been doing family history for many years. >We've been searching for some proof that our Elisha English born 2 >March >1767 is the son of James and Amey Waller ENGLISH who lived in Salisbury >and married Stepney Parish 1743, and had several of their children >recorded in the Old Green Hill Church there-but the record ends and >does not include >1767 births for this family.? By 1776 the family is found in Little >Creek >100 in Sussex Co., Delaware.? the mother, Amey/Amy is said to have died >about 1770-1771 but no evidence has been found. > >Question-Does anyone have any suggestions for original sources for this >English/Waller family from 1767-1776 in this region?? We have found >some land records referring to the plantation "King's Luck" ,which in >James English probate he left to the 2 oldest sons, and and "Inglish's >Lott" and Englishes Adventure. > >Here are the land deed references: > >? Land Records of James English in Wicomico County > >Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Certificate > >Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 7, p. 323 0 >0 MSA S 1601-1267 > >Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Patent > >Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 6, p. 28 0 0 >MSA S 1601-1268 > >SOMERSET MD Land records: > >Inglishes Lott, James Inglish, 50 Acres 1740/10/08 Unpatented >Certificate >342 3 0 MSA S 1229-353 > >Inglishes Lott, 50 Acres; Unpatented Certificate > >Developer/Owner: Inglish, James 1748 Unpatented Certificate 342 0 0 MSA >S >1599-2399 > >"James English of Somerset" > >Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acres 1752/10/17 Patented 17 Oct. >1752 Certificate 815 3 0 MSA S 1206-890-see image > >Reference: Patented Certificate 815 > >Date: 1752/10/17 > >Description: Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acres > >Dear Listers, > >We are new to this list but have been doing family history for many years. >We've been searching for some proof that our Elisha English born 2 >March >1767 is the son of James and Amey Waller ENGLISH who lived in Salisbury >and married Stepney Parish 1743, and had several of their children >recorded in the Old Green Hill Church there-but the record ends and >does not include >1767 births for this family.? By 1776 the family is found in Little >Creek >100 in Sussex Co., Delaware.? the mother, Amey/Amy is said to have died >about 1770-1771 but no evidence has been found. > >Question-Does anyone have any suggestions for original sources for this >English/Waller family from 1767-1776 in this region?? We have found >some land records referring to the plantation "King's Luck" ,which in >James English probate he left to the 2 oldest sons, and and "Inglish's >Lott" and Englishes Adventure. > >Here are the land deed references: > >? Land Records of James English in Wicomico County > >Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Certificate > >Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 7, p. 323 0 >0 MSA S 1601-1267 > >Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Patent > >Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 6, p. 28 0 0 >MSA S 1601-1268 > >SOMERSET MD Land records: > >Inglishes Lott, James Inglish, 50 Acres 1740/10/08 Unpatented >Certificate >342 3 0 MSA S 1229-353 > >Inglishes Lott, 50 Acres; Unpatented Certificate > >Developer/Owner: Inglish, James 1748 Unpatented Certificate 342 0 0 MSA >S >1599-2399 > >"James English of Somerset" > >Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acres 1752/10/17 Patented 17 Oct. >1752 Certificate 815 3 0 MSA S 1206-890-see image > >Reference: Patented Certificate 815 > >Date: 1752/10/17 > >Description: Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acr > > > > > >This ENGLISH Family residence was said to be on the road between Laurel >and Salisbury > >Is there any maps showing old plantation locations or a listing of >property taxes to show neighbors, etc? > >Thank you for any help you may share. > >Sincerely, > >This ENGLISH Family residence was said to be on the road between Laurel >and Salisbury > >Is there any maps showing old plantation locations or a listing of >property taxes to show neighbors, etc? > >Thank you for any help you may share. > >Sincerely, > > > >*************************************** >QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? 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Thank you so much for your very helpful information about the Blackwater Creek/Broad Creek area and the Waller family there. To Terry, 1-Since we are related through Amy Waller, do you happen to know where the Threlkeld comes into the line? The James English family was in the Salisbury/Laurel area from early 1700s-Inglish Lott 50 acres purchased 1742 Until the early part of the 1800's---after son Thomas sold King's Luck plantation. The bulk of my English relatives left Sussex, Delaware for Barren Co. Kentucky about 1790 so that explains why they are not in any later atlas of the area. 2-Does anyone know if "Old Spring Hill Episcopal Church" has any records still in existence and their location? The email written by "on Behalf of Miller's Choice" was very helpful as well in locating a close proximity to their land purchases while in the Stepney Paris/Laurel Sussex area. We now have a much better idea of location for each purchase. 3-Does anyone have an idea where to find a marriage record if it exists for 2nd wife to James English for Rachel Collins about 1770/1771 if they were still living in this same area of King's Luck and Stepney Parish part that became lower Sussex Co. Delaware after 1765? Appreciate everyone sharing their expertise! Karen

Thank you so much for your very helpful information about the Blackwater Creek/Broad Creek area and the Waller family there. To Terry, 1-Since we are related through Amy Waller, do you happen to know where the Threlkeld comes into the line? The James English family was in the Salisbury/Laurel area from early 1700s-Inglish Lott 50 acres purchased 1742 Until the early part of the 1800's---after son Thomas sold King's Luck plantation. The bulk of my English relatives left Sussex, Delaware for Barren Co. Kentucky about 1790 so that explains why they are not in any later atlas of the area. 2-Does anyone know if "Old Spring Hill Episcopal Church" has any records still in existence and their location? The email written by "on Behalf of Miller's Choice" was very helpful as well in locating a close proximity to their land purchases while in the Stepney Paris/Laurel Sussex area. We now have a much better idea of location for each purchase. 3-Does anyone have an idea where to find a marriage record if it exists for 2nd wife to James English for Rachel Collins about 1770/1771 if they were still living in this same area of King's Luck and Stepney Parish part that became lower Sussex Co. Delaware after 1765? Appreciate everyone sharing their expertise! Karen -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of lower-delmarva-roots-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 1:00 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Digest, Vol 9, Issue 66 LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Administrivia For information about the Lower Delmarva Roots Mailing List, including list guidelines and instructions for unsubscribing and subscribing, see the LDRoots FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm Today's Topics: 1. Re: Ancestors from Salisbury and Somerset and moved to Sussex (Terry Phillips-Seitz) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 14:05:29 -0400 From: "Terry Phillips-Seitz" <tbphillips@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [LDR] Ancestors from Salisbury and Somerset and moved to Sussex To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <001c01cf6f9f$17c2cf80$47486e80$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sorry- I need to clarify a sentence (poor editing on my part). " I also believe that the fact that records of marriages, baptisms, etc. are recorded at Old Green Hill Church means that they took place in the immediate vicinity of the chapel." should read " I also believe that the fact that records of marriages, baptisms, etc. are recorded at Old Green Hill Church DOES NOT MEAN that they took place in the immediate vicinity of the chapel." Terry Phillips-Seitz -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Terry Phillips-Seitz Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 11:48 PM To: 'Miller's Choice'; lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Ancestors from Salisbury and Somerset and moved to Sussex Hi Karen- Amy Threlkeld Waller almost certainly was born and spent her early life very near the southwest corner of the intersection of Waller Road & Jersey Road in what is now Wicomico County, MD, approximately 1/2 mile from the Transpeninsular Line. Although there is some uncertainty as to just when her father, Thomas Waller, settled in this spot, it is pretty clear that this remained the family home place for many generations. There is, in fact, a Waller Family cemetery only about 100 yards to the west, down Waller Road, from the intersection. Furthermore, from the mid-seventeen hundreds until the mid-eighteen hundreds there were discrete sets of families that lived in this area along Waller Road, between Spring Hill Road and Jersey Road and even on to the east a ways toward what was to become Delmar Village. Those families lived and intermarried in surprisingly distinct groups- Wallers/Ellises/Lowes/Hearns & Bradleys/Coopers/Phillipses that were located at the two ends of this section of Waller Road, eventually intermarrying at normal frequencies in the larger community by around 1840. Of course, these were not exclusive groups- just ones whose families, due to the limitations of transportation & social venues, found it easier to marry very close to home, as it were. I am especially clear on the relationship between the Wallers & their affiliates, because they were all my own antecedents, and the number of intermarriages, especially between the Wallers & their close neighbors (perhaps their closest), the Ellises, provide compelling evidence that both families stayed there and/or very close to that location throughout the beginning of the twentieth century. Amy Threlkeld Waller was my 5th great grand aunt. Although I am not aware of any Englishes nearby the Waller homestead, the "road from Salisbury to Laurel" surely was the Jersey Road. There still are many English family members in the area- certainly in Salisbury and quite a few in Riverton (on the Nanticoke, between Sharptown & Mardela). I also believe that the fact that records of marriages, baptisms, etc. are recorded at Old Green Hill Church means that they took place in the immediate vicinity of the chapel. It is more likely that those services took place in Old Spring Hill Episcopal church, or its antecedent structure, or some family home in the area. Old Spring Hill (St Paul's Episcopal Church), about 6 miles away on US 50, near Hebron, MD, and Old Christ Church, near Laurel, DE, were so-called "chapels of ease" for Stepney Parish, whose home chapel was at Green Hill. Chapels of ease were essentially early Anglican "churches/chapels" that were attended by circuit riders, and had no permanent priest in attendance. I attended Old Spring Hill until I left home for college and should be more certain of this, but I do believe that until St. Paul's became a permanent parish church, all of its records were kept at Green Hill. As to the location of the headwaters of the Nanticoke, Broad Creek and Blackwater, again I would be cautious. Blackwater is a lesser branch of Barren Creek and clearly has been channelized for drainage. I don't know when this was done, but the extent of the channelized drainage ditches in the area suggests that it might have been a CCC project. In any event, Blackwater Creek never gets within 2 miles of Broad Creek proper. The drainage catchments of Tussocky Branch and Little Creek (both tributaries of Broad Creek) do abut that of Blackwater, but, again, where they approach each other we see heavily channelized ditches/creeks. It is almost certain that the peripheries of these streams were simply wetlands that were gradually drained over the years in a way similar to the way woods were cleared for fields. The nearest creek that drains directly into the Nanticoke River is Cod Creek, but it doesn't come that close to the Blackwater drainage area. I believe that "the main road that leads to Broad Creek" most likely was Susan Beach Road (Rd 509) or Mt. Pleasant Road (Rd 514), at least in the area of the Nanticoke River or Broad Creek. Susan Beach Road And Jersey Road were the two principal ways to go from Salisbury towards Portsville and Laurel in the late eighteenth & early nineteenth century. Jersey Road joined Susan Beach Road about two miles into Delaware, just north of the Blackwater watershed. Susan Beach Road went to Laurel and Mt. Pleasant Road branched off to go to Portsville. At that point, both of these latter roads were well within the Broad Creek watershed. It seems to me that Broad Creek and the Nanticoke are less ambiguous datums than the "head of a branch called Blackwater". I own an original copy of the Beers 1868 Atlas of Delaware and I took a quick look at the Little Creek & Broad Creek Hundreds, particularly those parts close to Laurel and Portsville. My experience is that these maps are very good indicators of the locations of family homesteads, both in the present day (at least when I was growing up in the 60s) and implicitly at least back to the first part of the 19th century. Although there were a few families that had a more ephemeral presence in the area, pretty much every family that moved into this area stayed put (excepting, of course, those family members who moved away completely). In my own families, generational movement was relatively slow and took place along Jersey Road towards Laurel or along Columbia Road towards Sharptown. I could not find any English family names on these maps in 1868, including in the map of Laurel. I realize that generalizations such as some of the ones I present are invitations to cite exceptions, but I am confident that they are true for the families I know, including the Wallers. Although by 1868 they had spread to the north (even North of Laurel), from the latter half of the nineteenth century on some of the Waller family remained close to Delmar. I hope this helps. Terry Phillips-Seitz -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Miller's Choice Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 1:39 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Ancestors from Salisbury and Somerset and moved to Sussex Karen, ? I think Mike is correct that the English family never moved an inch.? The boundary lines were drawn around them.? It might seem as if they moved, because of the Stepney Parish Records, but what you have to realize is that there was a chapel of ease for Stepney Parish near Laurel, Delaware.? The current structure is called Old Christ Church and was built in 1772, but there was an earlier one.? All the records were maintained as a parish, but the events did not all take place at old Green Hill.? If you examine the Stepney Parish Records, you can see that they are all written in one hand, which tells me that they were copied from original records. ?It's been several decades since I really looked at what we term the "originals" but that is what I remember and at the time I think I even deduced that what we now call the originals were probably penned in the 1880s.? Now, from my examination of the Somerset Parish records, I was able to ascertain that not all rectors were good record keepers.? There are tenures of rectors where not a single marriage or baptism was performed.? I dare say the rectors of Stepney Parish were much the same way.? Even modern rectors are known to lapse in such important recordings.? True story: we had a new rector some quarter century ago at St. Andrew's, Somerset Parish.? He came to me and asked for the marriage date of a friend of mine, also a member of the church, because he had deduced she had been married at the church, but there was no record of it, nor the baptism of her first child.? I had the information and supplied both dates. Why he didn't just ask my friend, I do not know!? And then, some years later, I was asked by yet another rector when my daughter was baptized as he had found a note where it said she was to be, but yet there was no date entered in the records, so I had to find the baptismal certificate. This stuff happens all the time. So, what I'm saying is, the fact that Elisha was not recorded does not mean he is not a child of James English. You'll just have to find another record to prove the connection. ? On 3 June 1756 John Megee, planter, wife Margaret consenting, sold to James English, planter for five shillings, 50 acres of Kings Luck beginning at a marked white oak standing on the east side of the main road that leads to Broad Creek about 50 yards from Phillip King's house lying on the east side of the Nanticoke river about two miles to the north of the head of a branch called Blackwater (Worc D:129). ? If you Google Blackwater Branch and then follow it, that might help somewhat. The Laurel area was once called Broad Creek.? So I'm guessing that King's Luck and probably the other properties were between Delmar and Laurel maybe three to four miles to the west of Route 13.? The trick is where the head of Blackwater Branch is.? I know that I am always surprised where the "head" of a body of water is now, usually just a trickle, barely meriting a culvert, and you really have to know a local person who just "knows".? I'd make inquiries at the Laurel Historical Society for such a person. Perhaps there is someone on this list who makes it their business to know where the heads of creeks are in Sussex County, the way I do for Somerset County. ? There are no records that I know of that are "showing old plantation locations or a listing of property taxes to show neighbors, etc?" You mentioned probate records but did not say if there was a "rest and residue" clause in the will nor the date of the will.? If other children received the remainder of the estate, even though unnamed, they could show up in a distribution of the estate. ? On Sunday, May 11, 2014 7:49 PM, Karen Chaney <lifelonglearner2012@outlook.com> wrote: Dear Listers, > >We are new to this list but have been doing family history for many years. >We've been searching for some proof that our Elisha English born 2 >March >1767 is the son of James and Amey Waller ENGLISH who lived in Salisbury >and married Stepney Parish 1743, and had several of their children >recorded in the Old Green Hill Church there-but the record ends and >does not include >1767 births for this family.? By 1776 the family is found in Little >Creek >100 in Sussex Co., Delaware.? the mother, Amey/Amy is said to have died >about 1770-1771 but no evidence has been found. > >Question-Does anyone have any suggestions for original sources for this >English/Waller family from 1767-1776 in this region?? We have found >some land records referring to the plantation "King's Luck" ,which in >James English probate he left to the 2 oldest sons, and and "Inglish's >Lott" and Englishes Adventure. > >Here are the land deed references: > >? Land Records of James English in Wicomico County > >Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Certificate > >Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 7, p. 323 0 >0 MSA S 1601-1267 > >Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Patent > >Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 6, p. 28 0 0 >MSA S 1601-1268 > >SOMERSET MD Land records: > >Inglishes Lott, James Inglish, 50 Acres 1740/10/08 Unpatented >Certificate >342 3 0 MSA S 1229-353 > >Inglishes Lott, 50 Acres; Unpatented Certificate > >Developer/Owner: Inglish, James 1748 Unpatented Certificate 342 0 0 MSA >S >1599-2399 > >"James English of Somerset" > >Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acres 1752/10/17 Patented 17 Oct. >1752 Certificate 815 3 0 MSA S 1206-890-see image > >Reference: Patented Certificate 815 > >Date: 1752/10/17 > >Description: Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acres > >Dear Listers, > >We are new to this list but have been doing family history for many years. >We've been searching for some proof that our Elisha English born 2 >March >1767 is the son of James and Amey Waller ENGLISH who lived in Salisbury >and married Stepney Parish 1743, and had several of their children >recorded in the Old Green Hill Church there-but the record ends and >does not include >1767 births for this family.? By 1776 the family is found in Little >Creek >100 in Sussex Co., Delaware.? the mother, Amey/Amy is said to have died >about 1770-1771 but no evidence has been found. > >Question-Does anyone have any suggestions for original sources for this >English/Waller family from 1767-1776 in this region?? We have found >some land records referring to the plantation "King's Luck" ,which in >James English probate he left to the 2 oldest sons, and and "Inglish's >Lott" and Englishes Adventure. > >Here are the land deed references: > >? Land Records of James English in Wicomico County > >Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Certificate > >Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 7, p. 323 0 >0 MSA S 1601-1267 > >Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Patent > >Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 6, p. 28 0 0 >MSA S 1601-1268 > >SOMERSET MD Land records: > >Inglishes Lott, James Inglish, 50 Acres 1740/10/08 Unpatented >Certificate >342 3 0 MSA S 1229-353 > >Inglishes Lott, 50 Acres; Unpatented Certificate > >Developer/Owner: Inglish, James 1748 Unpatented Certificate 342 0 0 MSA >S >1599-2399 > >"James English of Somerset" > >Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acres 1752/10/17 Patented 17 Oct. >1752 Certificate 815 3 0 MSA S 1206-890-see image > >Reference: Patented Certificate 815 > >Date: 1752/10/17 > >Description: Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acr > > > > > >This ENGLISH Family residence was said to be on the road between Laurel >and Salisbury > >Is there any maps showing old plantation locations or a listing of >property taxes to show neighbors, etc? > >Thank you for any help you may share. > >Sincerely, > >This ENGLISH Family residence was said to be on the road between Laurel >and Salisbury > >Is there any maps showing old plantation locations or a listing of >property taxes to show neighbors, etc? > >Thank you for any help you may share. > >Sincerely, > > > >*************************************** >QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? 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Sorry- I need to clarify a sentence (poor editing on my part). " I also believe that the fact that records of marriages, baptisms, etc. are recorded at Old Green Hill Church means that they took place in the immediate vicinity of the chapel." should read " I also believe that the fact that records of marriages, baptisms, etc. are recorded at Old Green Hill Church DOES NOT MEAN that they took place in the immediate vicinity of the chapel." Terry Phillips-Seitz -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Terry Phillips-Seitz Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 11:48 PM To: 'Miller's Choice'; lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Ancestors from Salisbury and Somerset and moved to Sussex Hi Karen- Amy Threlkeld Waller almost certainly was born and spent her early life very near the southwest corner of the intersection of Waller Road & Jersey Road in what is now Wicomico County, MD, approximately 1/2 mile from the Transpeninsular Line. Although there is some uncertainty as to just when her father, Thomas Waller, settled in this spot, it is pretty clear that this remained the family home place for many generations. There is, in fact, a Waller Family cemetery only about 100 yards to the west, down Waller Road, from the intersection. Furthermore, from the mid-seventeen hundreds until the mid-eighteen hundreds there were discrete sets of families that lived in this area along Waller Road, between Spring Hill Road and Jersey Road and even on to the east a ways toward what was to become Delmar Village. Those families lived and intermarried in surprisingly distinct groups- Wallers/Ellises/Lowes/Hearns & Bradleys/Coopers/Phillipses that were located at the two ends of this section of Waller Road, eventually intermarrying at normal frequencies in the larger community by around 1840. Of course, these were not exclusive groups- just ones whose families, due to the limitations of transportation & social venues, found it easier to marry very close to home, as it were. I am especially clear on the relationship between the Wallers & their affiliates, because they were all my own antecedents, and the number of intermarriages, especially between the Wallers & their close neighbors (perhaps their closest), the Ellises, provide compelling evidence that both families stayed there and/or very close to that location throughout the beginning of the twentieth century. Amy Threlkeld Waller was my 5th great grand aunt. Although I am not aware of any Englishes nearby the Waller homestead, the "road from Salisbury to Laurel" surely was the Jersey Road. There still are many English family members in the area- certainly in Salisbury and quite a few in Riverton (on the Nanticoke, between Sharptown & Mardela). I also believe that the fact that records of marriages, baptisms, etc. are recorded at Old Green Hill Church means that they took place in the immediate vicinity of the chapel. It is more likely that those services took place in Old Spring Hill Episcopal church, or its antecedent structure, or some family home in the area. Old Spring Hill (St Paul's Episcopal Church), about 6 miles away on US 50, near Hebron, MD, and Old Christ Church, near Laurel, DE, were so-called "chapels of ease" for Stepney Parish, whose home chapel was at Green Hill. Chapels of ease were essentially early Anglican "churches/chapels" that were attended by circuit riders, and had no permanent priest in attendance. I attended Old Spring Hill until I left home for college and should be more certain of this, but I do believe that until St. Paul's became a permanent parish church, all of its records were kept at Green Hill. As to the location of the headwaters of the Nanticoke, Broad Creek and Blackwater, again I would be cautious. Blackwater is a lesser branch of Barren Creek and clearly has been channelized for drainage. I don't know when this was done, but the extent of the channelized drainage ditches in the area suggests that it might have been a CCC project. In any event, Blackwater Creek never gets within 2 miles of Broad Creek proper. The drainage catchments of Tussocky Branch and Little Creek (both tributaries of Broad Creek) do abut that of Blackwater, but, again, where they approach each other we see heavily channelized ditches/creeks. It is almost certain that the peripheries of these streams were simply wetlands that were gradually drained over the years in a way similar to the way woods were cleared for fields. The nearest creek that drains directly into the Nanticoke River is Cod Creek, but it doesn't come that close to the Blackwater drainage area. I believe that "the main road that leads to Broad Creek" most likely was Susan Beach Road (Rd 509) or Mt. Pleasant Road (Rd 514), at least in the area of the Nanticoke River or Broad Creek. Susan Beach Road And Jersey Road were the two principal ways to go from Salisbury towards Portsville and Laurel in the late eighteenth & early nineteenth century. Jersey Road joined Susan Beach Road about two miles into Delaware, just north of the Blackwater watershed. Susan Beach Road went to Laurel and Mt. Pleasant Road branched off to go to Portsville. At that point, both of these latter roads were well within the Broad Creek watershed. It seems to me that Broad Creek and the Nanticoke are less ambiguous datums than the "head of a branch called Blackwater". I own an original copy of the Beers 1868 Atlas of Delaware and I took a quick look at the Little Creek & Broad Creek Hundreds, particularly those parts close to Laurel and Portsville. My experience is that these maps are very good indicators of the locations of family homesteads, both in the present day (at least when I was growing up in the 60s) and implicitly at least back to the first part of the 19th century. Although there were a few families that had a more ephemeral presence in the area, pretty much every family that moved into this area stayed put (excepting, of course, those family members who moved away completely). In my own families, generational movement was relatively slow and took place along Jersey Road towards Laurel or along Columbia Road towards Sharptown. I could not find any English family names on these maps in 1868, including in the map of Laurel. I realize that generalizations such as some of the ones I present are invitations to cite exceptions, but I am confident that they are true for the families I know, including the Wallers. Although by 1868 they had spread to the north (even North of Laurel), from the latter half of the nineteenth century on some of the Waller family remained close to Delmar. I hope this helps. Terry Phillips-Seitz -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Miller's Choice Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 1:39 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Ancestors from Salisbury and Somerset and moved to Sussex Karen,   I think Mike is correct that the English family never moved an inch.  The boundary lines were drawn around them.  It might seem as if they moved, because of the Stepney Parish Records, but what you have to realize is that there was a chapel of ease for Stepney Parish near Laurel, Delaware.  The current structure is called Old Christ Church and was built in 1772, but there was an earlier one.  All the records were maintained as a parish, but the events did not all take place at old Green Hill.  If you examine the Stepney Parish Records, you can see that they are all written in one hand, which tells me that they were copied from original records.  It's been several decades since I really looked at what we term the "originals" but that is what I remember and at the time I think I even deduced that what we now call the originals were probably penned in the 1880s.  Now, from my examination of the Somerset Parish records, I was able to ascertain that not all rectors were good record keepers.  There are tenures of rectors where not a single marriage or baptism was performed.  I dare say the rectors of Stepney Parish were much the same way.  Even modern rectors are known to lapse in such important recordings.  True story: we had a new rector some quarter century ago at St. Andrew's, Somerset Parish.  He came to me and asked for the marriage date of a friend of mine, also a member of the church, because he had deduced she had been married at the church, but there was no record of it, nor the baptism of her first child.  I had the information and supplied both dates. Why he didn't just ask my friend, I do not know!  And then, some years later, I was asked by yet another rector when my daughter was baptized as he had found a note where it said she was to be, but yet there was no date entered in the records, so I had to find the baptismal certificate. This stuff happens all the time. So, what I'm saying is, the fact that Elisha was not recorded does not mean he is not a child of James English. You'll just have to find another record to prove the connection.   On 3 June 1756 John Megee, planter, wife Margaret consenting, sold to James English, planter for five shillings, 50 acres of Kings Luck beginning at a marked white oak standing on the east side of the main road that leads to Broad Creek about 50 yards from Phillip King's house lying on the east side of the Nanticoke river about two miles to the north of the head of a branch called Blackwater (Worc D:129).   If you Google Blackwater Branch and then follow it, that might help somewhat. The Laurel area was once called Broad Creek.  So I'm guessing that King's Luck and probably the other properties were between Delmar and Laurel maybe three to four miles to the west of Route 13.  The trick is where the head of Blackwater Branch is.  I know that I am always surprised where the "head" of a body of water is now, usually just a trickle, barely meriting a culvert, and you really have to know a local person who just "knows".  I'd make inquiries at the Laurel Historical Society for such a person. Perhaps there is someone on this list who makes it their business to know where the heads of creeks are in Sussex County, the way I do for Somerset County.   There are no records that I know of that are "showing old plantation locations or a listing of property taxes to show neighbors, etc?" You mentioned probate records but did not say if there was a "rest and residue" clause in the will nor the date of the will.  If other children received the remainder of the estate, even though unnamed, they could show up in a distribution of the estate.   On Sunday, May 11, 2014 7:49 PM, Karen Chaney <lifelonglearner2012@outlook.com> wrote: Dear Listers, > >We are new to this list but have been doing family history for many years. >We've been searching for some proof that our Elisha English born 2 >March >1767 is the son of James and Amey Waller ENGLISH who lived in Salisbury >and married Stepney Parish 1743, and had several of their children >recorded in the Old Green Hill Church there-but the record ends and >does not include >1767 births for this family.  By 1776 the family is found in Little >Creek >100 in Sussex Co., Delaware.  the mother, Amey/Amy is said to have died >about 1770-1771 but no evidence has been found. > >Question-Does anyone have any suggestions for original sources for this >English/Waller family from 1767-1776 in this region?  We have found >some land records referring to the plantation "King's Luck" ,which in >James English probate he left to the 2 oldest sons, and and "Inglish's >Lott" and Englishes Adventure. > >Here are the land deed references: > >  Land Records of James English in Wicomico County > >Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Certificate > >Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 7, p. 323 0 >0 MSA S 1601-1267 > >Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Patent > >Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 6, p. 28 0 0 >MSA S 1601-1268 > >SOMERSET MD Land records: > >Inglishes Lott, James Inglish, 50 Acres 1740/10/08 Unpatented >Certificate >342 3 0 MSA S 1229-353 > >Inglishes Lott, 50 Acres; Unpatented Certificate > >Developer/Owner: Inglish, James 1748 Unpatented Certificate 342 0 0 MSA >S >1599-2399 > >"James English of Somerset" > >Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acres 1752/10/17 Patented 17 Oct. >1752 Certificate 815 3 0 MSA S 1206-890-see image > >Reference: Patented Certificate 815 > >Date: 1752/10/17 > >Description: Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acres > >Dear Listers, > >We are new to this list but have been doing family history for many years. >We've been searching for some proof that our Elisha English born 2 >March >1767 is the son of James and Amey Waller ENGLISH who lived in Salisbury >and married Stepney Parish 1743, and had several of their children >recorded in the Old Green Hill Church there-but the record ends and >does not include >1767 births for this family.  By 1776 the family is found in Little >Creek >100 in Sussex Co., Delaware.  the mother, Amey/Amy is said to have died >about 1770-1771 but no evidence has been found. > >Question-Does anyone have any suggestions for original sources for this >English/Waller family from 1767-1776 in this region?  We have found >some land records referring to the plantation "King's Luck" ,which in >James English probate he left to the 2 oldest sons, and and "Inglish's >Lott" and Englishes Adventure. > >Here are the land deed references: > >  Land Records of James English in Wicomico County > >Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Certificate > >Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 7, p. 323 0 >0 MSA S 1601-1267 > >Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Patent > >Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 6, p. 28 0 0 >MSA S 1601-1268 > >SOMERSET MD Land records: > >Inglishes Lott, James Inglish, 50 Acres 1740/10/08 Unpatented >Certificate >342 3 0 MSA S 1229-353 > >Inglishes Lott, 50 Acres; Unpatented Certificate > >Developer/Owner: Inglish, James 1748 Unpatented Certificate 342 0 0 MSA >S >1599-2399 > >"James English of Somerset" > >Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acres 1752/10/17 Patented 17 Oct. >1752 Certificate 815 3 0 MSA S 1206-890-see image > >Reference: Patented Certificate 815 > >Date: 1752/10/17 > >Description: Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acr > > > > > >This ENGLISH Family residence was said to be on the road between Laurel >and Salisbury > >Is there any maps showing old plantation locations or a listing of >property taxes to show neighbors, etc? > >Thank you for any help you may share. > >Sincerely, > >This ENGLISH Family residence was said to be on the road between Laurel >and Salisbury > >Is there any maps showing old plantation locations or a listing of >property taxes to show neighbors, etc? > >Thank you for any help you may share. > >Sincerely, > > > >*************************************** >QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? 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Hi Karen- Amy Threlkeld Waller almost certainly was born and spent her early life very near the southwest corner of the intersection of Waller Road & Jersey Road in what is now Wicomico County, MD, approximately 1/2 mile from the Transpeninsular Line. Although there is some uncertainty as to just when her father, Thomas Waller, settled in this spot, it is pretty clear that this remained the family home place for many generations. There is, in fact, a Waller Family cemetery only about 100 yards to the west, down Waller Road, from the intersection. Furthermore, from the mid-seventeen hundreds until the mid-eighteen hundreds there were discrete sets of families that lived in this area along Waller Road, between Spring Hill Road and Jersey Road and even on to the east a ways toward what was to become Delmar Village. Those families lived and intermarried in surprisingly distinct groups- Wallers/Ellises/Lowes/Hearns & Bradleys/Coopers/Phillipses that were located at the two ends of this section of Waller Road, eventually intermarrying at normal frequencies in the larger community by around 1840. Of course, these were not exclusive groups- just ones whose families, due to the limitations of transportation & social venues, found it easier to marry very close to home, as it were. I am especially clear on the relationship between the Wallers & their affiliates, because they were all my own antecedents, and the number of intermarriages, especially between the Wallers & their close neighbors (perhaps their closest), the Ellises, provide compelling evidence that both families stayed there and/or very close to that location throughout the beginning of the twentieth century. Amy Threlkeld Waller was my 5th great grand aunt. Although I am not aware of any Englishes nearby the Waller homestead, the "road from Salisbury to Laurel" surely was the Jersey Road. There still are many English family members in the area- certainly in Salisbury and quite a few in Riverton (on the Nanticoke, between Sharptown & Mardela). I also believe that the fact that records of marriages, baptisms, etc. are recorded at Old Green Hill Church means that they took place in the immediate vicinity of the chapel. It is more likely that those services took place in Old Spring Hill Episcopal church, or its antecedent structure, or some family home in the area. Old Spring Hill (St Paul's Episcopal Church), about 6 miles away on US 50, near Hebron, MD, and Old Christ Church, near Laurel, DE, were so-called "chapels of ease" for Stepney Parish, whose home chapel was at Green Hill. Chapels of ease were essentially early Anglican "churches/chapels" that were attended by circuit riders, and had no permanent priest in attendance. I attended Old Spring Hill until I left home for college and should be more certain of this, but I do believe that until St. Paul's became a permanent parish church, all of its records were kept at Green Hill. As to the location of the headwaters of the Nanticoke, Broad Creek and Blackwater, again I would be cautious. Blackwater is a lesser branch of Barren Creek and clearly has been channelized for drainage. I don't know when this was done, but the extent of the channelized drainage ditches in the area suggests that it might have been a CCC project. In any event, Blackwater Creek never gets within 2 miles of Broad Creek proper. The drainage catchments of Tussocky Branch and Little Creek (both tributaries of Broad Creek) do abut that of Blackwater, but, again, where they approach each other we see heavily channelized ditches/creeks. It is almost certain that the peripheries of these streams were simply wetlands that were gradually drained over the years in a way similar to the way woods were cleared for fields. The nearest creek that drains directly into the Nanticoke River is Cod Creek, but it doesn't come that close to the Blackwater drainage area. I believe that "the main road that leads to Broad Creek" most likely was Susan Beach Road (Rd 509) or Mt. Pleasant Road (Rd 514), at least in the area of the Nanticoke River or Broad Creek. Susan Beach Road And Jersey Road were the two principal ways to go from Salisbury towards Portsville and Laurel in the late eighteenth & early nineteenth century. Jersey Road joined Susan Beach Road about two miles into Delaware, just north of the Blackwater watershed. Susan Beach Road went to Laurel and Mt. Pleasant Road branched off to go to Portsville. At that point, both of these latter roads were well within the Broad Creek watershed. It seems to me that Broad Creek and the Nanticoke are less ambiguous datums than the "head of a branch called Blackwater". I own an original copy of the Beers 1868 Atlas of Delaware and I took a quick look at the Little Creek & Broad Creek Hundreds, particularly those parts close to Laurel and Portsville. My experience is that these maps are very good indicators of the locations of family homesteads, both in the present day (at least when I was growing up in the 60s) and implicitly at least back to the first part of the 19th century. Although there were a few families that had a more ephemeral presence in the area, pretty much every family that moved into this area stayed put (excepting, of course, those family members who moved away completely). In my own families, generational movement was relatively slow and took place along Jersey Road towards Laurel or along Columbia Road towards Sharptown. I could not find any English family names on these maps in 1868, including in the map of Laurel. I realize that generalizations such as some of the ones I present are invitations to cite exceptions, but I am confident that they are true for the families I know, including the Wallers. Although by 1868 they had spread to the north (even North of Laurel), from the latter half of the nineteenth century on some of the Waller family remained close to Delmar. I hope this helps. Terry Phillips-Seitz -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Miller's Choice Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 1:39 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Ancestors from Salisbury and Somerset and moved to Sussex Karen,   I think Mike is correct that the English family never moved an inch.  The boundary lines were drawn around them.  It might seem as if they moved, because of the Stepney Parish Records, but what you have to realize is that there was a chapel of ease for Stepney Parish near Laurel, Delaware.  The current structure is called Old Christ Church and was built in 1772, but there was an earlier one.  All the records were maintained as a parish, but the events did not all take place at old Green Hill.  If you examine the Stepney Parish Records, you can see that they are all written in one hand, which tells me that they were copied from original records.  It's been several decades since I really looked at what we term the "originals" but that is what I remember and at the time I think I even deduced that what we now call the originals were probably penned in the 1880s.  Now, from my examination of the Somerset Parish records, I was able to ascertain that not all rectors were good record keepers.  There are tenures of rectors where not a single marriage or baptism was performed.  I dare say the rectors of Stepney Parish were much the same way.  Even modern rectors are known to lapse in such important recordings.  True story: we had a new rector some quarter century ago at St. Andrew's, Somerset Parish.  He came to me and asked for the marriage date of a friend of mine, also a member of the church, because he had deduced she had been married at the church, but there was no record of it, nor the baptism of her first child.  I had the information and supplied both dates. Why he didn't just ask my friend, I do not know!  And then, some years later, I was asked by yet another rector when my daughter was baptized as he had found a note where it said she was to be, but yet there was no date entered in the records, so I had to find the baptismal certificate. This stuff happens all the time. So, what I'm saying is, the fact that Elisha was not recorded does not mean he is not a child of James English. You'll just have to find another record to prove the connection.   On 3 June 1756 John Megee, planter, wife Margaret consenting, sold to James English, planter for five shillings, 50 acres of Kings Luck beginning at a marked white oak standing on the east side of the main road that leads to Broad Creek about 50 yards from Phillip King's house lying on the east side of the Nanticoke river about two miles to the north of the head of a branch called Blackwater (Worc D:129).   If you Google Blackwater Branch and then follow it, that might help somewhat.  The Laurel area was once called Broad Creek.  So I'm guessing that King's Luck and probably the other properties were between Delmar and Laurel maybe three to four miles to the west of Route 13.  The trick is where the head of Blackwater Branch is.  I know that I am always surprised where the "head" of a body of water is now, usually just a trickle, barely meriting a culvert, and you really have to know a local person who just "knows".  I'd make inquiries at the Laurel Historical Society for such a person. Perhaps there is someone on this list who makes it their business to know where the heads of creeks are in Sussex County, the way I do for Somerset County.   There are no records that I know of that are "showing old plantation locations or a listing of property taxes to show neighbors, etc?" You mentioned probate records but did not say if there was a "rest and residue" clause in the will nor the date of the will.  If other children received the remainder of the estate, even though unnamed, they could show up in a distribution of the estate.   On Sunday, May 11, 2014 7:49 PM, Karen Chaney <lifelonglearner2012@outlook.com> wrote: Dear Listers, > >We are new to this list but have been doing family history for many years. >We've been searching for some proof that our Elisha English born 2 >March >1767 is the son of James and Amey Waller ENGLISH who lived in Salisbury >and married Stepney Parish 1743, and had several of their children >recorded in the Old Green Hill Church there-but the record ends and >does not include >1767 births for this family.  By 1776 the family is found in Little >Creek >100 in Sussex Co., Delaware.  the mother, Amey/Amy is said to have died >about 1770-1771 but no evidence has been found. > >Question-Does anyone have any suggestions for original sources for this >English/Waller family from 1767-1776 in this region?  We have found >some land records referring to the plantation "King's Luck" ,which in >James English probate he left to the 2 oldest sons, and and "Inglish's >Lott" and Englishes Adventure. > >Here are the land deed references: > >  Land Records of James English in Wicomico County > >Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Certificate > >Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 7, p. 323 0 >0 MSA S 1601-1267 > >Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Patent > >Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 6, p. 28 0 0 >MSA S 1601-1268 > >SOMERSET MD Land records: > >Inglishes Lott, James Inglish, 50 Acres 1740/10/08 Unpatented >Certificate >342 3 0 MSA S 1229-353 > >Inglishes Lott, 50 Acres; Unpatented Certificate > >Developer/Owner: Inglish, James 1748 Unpatented Certificate 342 0 0 MSA >S >1599-2399 > >"James English of Somerset" > >Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acres 1752/10/17 Patented 17 Oct. >1752 Certificate 815 3 0 MSA S 1206-890-see image > >Reference: Patented Certificate 815 > >Date: 1752/10/17 > >Description: Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acres > >Dear Listers, > >We are new to this list but have been doing family history for many years. >We've been searching for some proof that our Elisha English born 2 >March >1767 is the son of James and Amey Waller ENGLISH who lived in Salisbury >and married Stepney Parish 1743, and had several of their children >recorded in the Old Green Hill Church there-but the record ends and >does not include >1767 births for this family.  By 1776 the family is found in Little >Creek >100 in Sussex Co., Delaware.  the mother, Amey/Amy is said to have died >about 1770-1771 but no evidence has been found. > >Question-Does anyone have any suggestions for original sources for this >English/Waller family from 1767-1776 in this region?  We have found >some land records referring to the plantation "King's Luck" ,which in >James English probate he left to the 2 oldest sons, and and "Inglish's >Lott" and Englishes Adventure. > >Here are the land deed references: > >  Land Records of James English in Wicomico County > >Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Certificate > >Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 7, p. 323 0 >0 MSA S 1601-1267 > >Englishs Adventure, 47 acres; Patent > >Developer/Owner: English, James 1753 Patent Record Y and S 6, p. 28 0 0 >MSA S 1601-1268 > >SOMERSET MD Land records: > >Inglishes Lott, James Inglish, 50 Acres 1740/10/08 Unpatented >Certificate >342 3 0 MSA S 1229-353 > >Inglishes Lott, 50 Acres; Unpatented Certificate > >Developer/Owner: Inglish, James 1748 Unpatented Certificate 342 0 0 MSA >S >1599-2399 > >"James English of Somerset" > >Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acres 1752/10/17 Patented 17 Oct. >1752 Certificate 815 3 0 MSA S 1206-890-see image > >Reference: Patented Certificate 815 > >Date: 1752/10/17 > >Description: Englishes Adventure, James English, 47 Acr > > > > > >This ENGLISH Family residence was said to be on the road between Laurel >and Salisbury > >Is there any maps showing old plantation locations or a listing of >property taxes to show neighbors, etc? > >Thank you for any help you may share. > >Sincerely, > >This ENGLISH Family residence was said to be on the road between Laurel >and Salisbury > >Is there any maps showing old plantation locations or a listing of >property taxes to show neighbors, etc? > >Thank you for any help you may share. > >Sincerely, > > > >*************************************** >QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? 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