My roots go deep into the eastern shore and combine with a branch out of early New England and when it's all figured out my dad and I were some kind of cousin in a couple different ways (I won't bore you with the number of ways, generations or 'removes', 'cause there's more than one). Then I marry a nice guy I met in college whose dad's from TX and mom's from IN, but turns out his mom and I are 10th cousins off the Mayflower. By the time our kids headed to middle school, we were armed with excuses if we ever got called in for parent-teacher conferences! And loaded with quips for the ladies at church. Gotta admit, we had a lot of fun So my mom felt left out. Until I found a collateral cousin of my dad's family had served on a jury in Jamestown which sentenced one of her ancestors for drunk and disorderly. Seems that ended her quest to connect! - ain't genealogy grand Judy Stell LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 288 From: "Michelle Burris Kenerly" <bluejeans@ec.rr.com<mailto:bluejeans@ec.rr.com>> Subject: [LDR] Understanding cousin relationships. Hello LDR members, I just received this explanation from a friend and decided to pass it on to you. I hope it is helpful. Good hunting! Regards, Michelle Kissin' Cousins - Understanding Cousin Relationships Most of us don't think about specific cousin relationships in exact terms - "cousin" seems good enough - so many of us aren't very familiar with what these words mean. When working on your family history, however, it's important to understand the various types of cousin relationships. a.. First cousins are the people in your family who have two of the same grandparents as you. b.. Second cousins have the same great-grandparents as you, but not the same grandparents. c.. Third cousins have in common two great-great-grandparents and their ancestors. When cousins descend from common ancestors by a different number of generations they are called "removed." a.. Once removed means there is a difference of one generation. Your mother's first cousin would be your first cousin, once removed. She is one generation younger than your grandparents and you are two generations younger than your grandparents. b.. Twice removed means that there is a two-generation difference. Your grandmother's first cousin would be your first cousin, twice removed because you are separated by two generations. Just to complicate matters, there are also many cases of double cousins. This situation usually occurs when siblings from one family marry siblings from another family. The resulting children, grandchildren, etc. are double cousins, because they share all four ancestors in common. These types of relationships can be difficult to determine and it is usually easiest to chart them one at a time (through one family line and then through the other line).
Hello LDR members, I just received this explanation from a friend and decided to pass it on to you. I hope it is helpful. Good hunting! Regards, Michelle Kissin' Cousins - Understanding Cousin Relationships Most of us don't think about specific cousin relationships in exact terms - "cousin" seems good enough - so many of us aren't very familiar with what these words mean. When working on your family history, however, it's important to understand the various types of cousin relationships. a.. First cousins are the people in your family who have two of the same grandparents as you. b.. Second cousins have the same great-grandparents as you, but not the same grandparents. c.. Third cousins have in common two great-great-grandparents and their ancestors. When cousins descend from common ancestors by a different number of generations they are called "removed." a.. Once removed means there is a difference of one generation. Your mother's first cousin would be your first cousin, once removed. She is one generation younger than your grandparents and you are two generations younger than your grandparents. b.. Twice removed means that there is a two-generation difference. Your grandmother's first cousin would be your first cousin, twice removed because you are separated by two generations. Just to complicate matters, there are also many cases of double cousins. This situation usually occurs when siblings from one family marry siblings from another family. The resulting children, grandchildren, etc. are double cousins, because they share all four ancestors in common. These types of relationships can be difficult to determine and it is usually easiest to chart them one at a time (through one family line and then through the other line).
Hello, I am new to the list. Is there anyone on the list researching the Walston families of early Somerset Co. and Worchester Co., MD? Thomas Walston married Ruth London 16 April 1677 in Somerset Co., MD. They had 4 known children: 1. son London Walston; no record of any marriage 2. daughter Files 3. son Boaz b. ca 1700 4. son Joy; I have found no record of any marriage for this Joy Walston, but it is possible that he did marry. Boaz Walston b. ca 1700 married Catherine Curtis and had children who were named in his 1770 will which was proved in Worchester Co., MD. It is believed that after his wife Ruth died, Thomas Walston married #2 Mary (perhaps maiden name Davis) and had 2 sons:Thomas Walston and William Walston (who would be half-brothers to London, Files, Boaz, and Joy. If you have any information on the Walston families with roots in Somerset Co. and Worchester Co., MD, please contact me as I am trying to obtain as much info as I can to establish these Walston lines. Many thanks, Helen Graves Walston List Administrator
Thanks, I contacted them several years ago and it was a dead-end. I wish I had known Adam Thoroughgood was my 10th great grandfather when I was living there. It certainly would have made this research a lot easier to have done when I was so close to the libraries, courthouses, VA archives, etc. Lisa Just from this List, sent me a "great" lead. "The Virginia Magazine of Biography and History" lists the 105 individuals Adam Thoroughgood brought over that enabled him to claim over 5,000 acres of land. The list begins with Adam Thoroughgood, then lists Thomas Thoroughgood, Francis Newton, Sarah Thoroughgood, . . . etc. Further search of "The Virginia Magazine of Biography and History" revealed another entry from 'A Court at James Citty the 29th of March 1628' - "Thomas Thoroughgood sworne & examined sayth that being sent by his kinsman Adam Thoroughgood . . ." I wonder what this Thomas' relationship was to Adam. I know that Adam had a brother Thomas but I was under the impression that he had stayed in England. Can anyone shed any light on this? I believe this Thomas is too old to have been the Thomas Thoroughgood that Edmund Scarborough claimed as a headright in 1664. Thanks to everyone who responded to my original query. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Ullian" <ullian@verizon.net> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] Thoroughgoods in Virginia > Regarding the Thoroughgoods: > It might be a deadend - don't know whether they have family information, > but you may want to contact the "Adam Thoroughgood House" - now a museum > owned by the city of Virginia Beach VA, originally a brick home thought > to have been built by a grandson of Adam Thoroughgood in the 1600s. > Said to be the oldest brick home in the country. > > *Contact Information: *Adam Thoroughgood House, 1636 Parish Road, > Virginia Beach, VA 23455, phone (757) 460-7588 > > http://www.virginiabeachhistory.org/thoroughgoodhouse.html > Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Thoroughgood_House > > John Ullian > > lower-delmarva-roots-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Administrivia >> >> For information about the Lower Delmarva Roots Mailing List, including >> list guidelines and instructions for unsubscribing and subscribing, see >> the LDRoots FAQ: >> >> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Thoroughgood (JM Stell) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:46:47 -0400 >> From: "JM Stell" <stellva@msn.com> >> Subject: [LDR] Thoroughgood >> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <BAY115-DAV1E529A0371EAEE68305E0B0720@phx.gbl> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> William Thoroughgood had sons: Edward, John, Thomas, Edmund, William, >> Mordant and Adam (I) >> Adam Thoroughgood (I) had one son: Adam Thoroughgood (II) >> Adam Thoroughgood (II) had sons: Argall, John, Adam, Francis & Robert >> >> I do not have a Paul Thoroughgood in my data and would 'guess' the >> connection might be in England. >> >> Judy Stell >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 284 >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:24:50 -0400 >> From: Johnlyon0@cs.com<mailto:Johnlyon0@cs.com> >> Subject: Re: [LDR] Paul Thoroughgood of Sussex Co., DE >> To: >> lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com<mailto:lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> >> >> "Schroeder" <jfstms@bellsouth.net<mailto:jfstms@bellsouth.net>> wrote: >> >>> The Thoroughgood's were in Virginia very early on. ?Adam Thoroughgood >>> was b. >>> ca. 1603 in Grimston, Norfolk, England and died ca 1640 in either >>> Jamestown >>> or Lower Norfolk Co., VA. (all the paperwork was in Lower Norfolk). >>> ?Adam >>> had four known children: ?three daughters and a son (Adam, II). ?Adam, >>> II >>> married Frances Yeardley/Yardley and had six known children, one >>> daughter, >>> Rose, and five sons. ?One of these sons was Francis b. 1670. ?Is this >>> possible the Francis you are referring to? >>> >> >> He seems to have been of the right age (and economic circumstance), all >> right. In this case, it looks like a good bet, but I know nothing on >> these folk. MD records, as best I see, don't illuminate much directly. >> >> John >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS list administrator, send an email to >> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS mailing list, send an email >> to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 285 >> **************************************************** >> >> > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Regarding the Thoroughgoods: It might be a deadend - don't know whether they have family information, but you may want to contact the "Adam Thoroughgood House" - now a museum owned by the city of Virginia Beach VA, originally a brick home thought to have been built by a grandson of Adam Thoroughgood in the 1600s. Said to be the oldest brick home in the country. *Contact Information: *Adam Thoroughgood House, 1636 Parish Road, Virginia Beach, VA 23455, phone (757) 460-7588 http://www.virginiabeachhistory.org/thoroughgoodhouse.html Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Thoroughgood_House John Ullian lower-delmarva-roots-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Administrivia > > For information about the Lower Delmarva Roots Mailing List, including list guidelines and instructions for unsubscribing and subscribing, see the LDRoots FAQ: > > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Thoroughgood (JM Stell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:46:47 -0400 > From: "JM Stell" <stellva@msn.com> > Subject: [LDR] Thoroughgood > To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BAY115-DAV1E529A0371EAEE68305E0B0720@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > William Thoroughgood had sons: Edward, John, Thomas, Edmund, William, Mordant and Adam (I) > Adam Thoroughgood (I) had one son: Adam Thoroughgood (II) > Adam Thoroughgood (II) had sons: Argall, John, Adam, Francis & Robert > > I do not have a Paul Thoroughgood in my data and would 'guess' the connection might be in England. > > Judy Stell > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 284 > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:24:50 -0400 > From: Johnlyon0@cs.com<mailto:Johnlyon0@cs.com> > Subject: Re: [LDR] Paul Thoroughgood of Sussex Co., DE > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com<mailto:lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> > > "Schroeder" <jfstms@bellsouth.net<mailto:jfstms@bellsouth.net>> wrote: > >> The Thoroughgood's were in Virginia very early on. ?Adam Thoroughgood was b. >> ca. 1603 in Grimston, Norfolk, England and died ca 1640 in either Jamestown >> or Lower Norfolk Co., VA. (all the paperwork was in Lower Norfolk). ?Adam >> had four known children: ?three daughters and a son (Adam, II). ?Adam, II >> married Frances Yeardley/Yardley and had six known children, one daughter, >> Rose, and five sons. ?One of these sons was Francis b. 1670. ?Is this >> possible the Francis you are referring to? >> > > He seems to have been of the right age (and economic circumstance), all right. In this case, it looks like a good bet, but I know nothing on these folk. MD records, as best I see, don't illuminate much directly. > > John > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS list administrator, send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS mailing list, send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 285 > **************************************************** > >
William Thoroughgood had sons: Edward, John, Thomas, Edmund, William, Mordant and Adam (I) Adam Thoroughgood (I) had one son: Adam Thoroughgood (II) Adam Thoroughgood (II) had sons: Argall, John, Adam, Francis & Robert I do not have a Paul Thoroughgood in my data and would 'guess' the connection might be in England. Judy Stell ---------------------------------------------------------------------- LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 284 Message: 1 Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:24:50 -0400 From: Johnlyon0@cs.com<mailto:Johnlyon0@cs.com> Subject: Re: [LDR] Paul Thoroughgood of Sussex Co., DE To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com<mailto:lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> "Schroeder" <jfstms@bellsouth.net<mailto:jfstms@bellsouth.net>> wrote: >The Thoroughgood's were in Virginia very early on. ?Adam Thoroughgood was b. >ca. 1603 in Grimston, Norfolk, England and died ca 1640 in either Jamestown >or Lower Norfolk Co., VA. (all the paperwork was in Lower Norfolk). ?Adam >had four known children: ?three daughters and a son (Adam, II). ?Adam, II >married Frances Yeardley/Yardley and had six known children, one daughter, >Rose, and five sons. ?One of these sons was Francis b. 1670. ?Is this >possible the Francis you are referring to? He seems to have been of the right age (and economic circumstance), all right. In this case, it looks like a good bet, but I know nothing on these folk. MD records, as best I see, don't illuminate much directly. John
"Schroeder" <jfstms@bellsouth.net> wrote: >The Thoroughgood's were in Virginia very early on. Adam Thoroughgood was b. >ca. 1603 in Grimston, Norfolk, England and died ca 1640 in either Jamestown >or Lower Norfolk Co., VA. (all the paperwork was in Lower Norfolk). Adam >had four known children: three daughters and a son (Adam, II). Adam, II >married Frances Yeardley/Yardley and had six known children, one daughter, >Rose, and five sons. One of these sons was Francis b. 1670. Is this >possible the Francis you are referring to? He seems to have been of the right age (and economic circumstance), all right. In this case, it looks like a good bet, but I know nothing on these folk. MD records, as best I see, don't illuminate much directly. John
Thanks for responding John. The Thoroughgood's were in Virginia very early on. Adam Thoroughgood was b. ca. 1603 in Grimston, Norfolk, England and died ca 1640 in either Jamestown or Lower Norfolk Co., VA. (all the paperwork was in Lower Norfolk). Adam had four known children: three daughters and a son (Adam, II). Adam, II married Frances Yeardley/Yardley and had six known children, one daughter, Rose, and five sons. One of these sons was Francis b. 1670. Is this possible the Francis you are referring to? I have tried for years to connect these Lower Norfolk Co. Thoroughgood's to those from the Sussex Co. It appears to me that the Thomas Thoroughgood who was brought over to this country by Edmond Scarburg (Scarborough) is a different line from Adam Thoroughgood who was in VA by 1630. Or, the connection goes back to England where I haven't done any research. I was hoping someone on this list had gotten back further than I or had connected the families. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: <Johnlyon0@cs.com> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] Paul Thoroughgood of Sussex Co., DE > "Schroeder" <jfstms@bellsouth.net> wrote: > >>Is anyone on the list researching Paul Thoroughgood b. 5 Oct 1735 in >>Sussex >>Co., DE? >I would like to know who his parents were. > > Francis Thorogood appears in a few deed and estate references a little > earlier in Somerset, apparently mostly in what became Pitts Creek Hundred > in Worcester along the Virginia border. See, for example, So Deeds CD:002 > (1706) and CD:362 (1709) for the tract LANGHTON. A Francis Thorogood > Drummond and a Rose Drummond also show up in other scattered Somerset > (seaboard side = Worcester) records, and a few other names in which the > given name "Thorogood" is seen. But there's not much tangible, and the > sense I have is that most of these folk were on the Virginia side of the > border. > > John Lyon > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
"Schroeder" <jfstms@bellsouth.net> wrote: >Is anyone on the list researching Paul Thoroughgood b. 5 Oct 1735 in Sussex >Co., DE? >I would like to know who his parents were. Francis Thorogood appears in a few deed and estate references a little earlier in Somerset, apparently mostly in what became Pitts Creek Hundred in Worcester along the Virginia border. See, for example, So Deeds CD:002 (1706) and CD:362 (1709) for the tract LANGHTON. A Francis Thorogood Drummond and a Rose Drummond also show up in other scattered Somerset (seaboard side = Worcester) records, and a few other names in which the given name "Thorogood" is seen. But there's not much tangible, and the sense I have is that most of these folk were on the Virginia side of the border. John Lyon
Thanks, Miller is the only other child I have anything on. I knew his wife's name and her father but did not have her mother's name. Every little bit helps. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "CarolS Jones" <grannyjo2@verizon.net> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] Paul Thoroughgood of Sussex Co., DE > Not much of a connection but Eleanor [Nelly] Willey daughter of Solomon > and > Eleanor Willey married Miller Thoroughgood son of Paul and Elizabeth > Thoroughgood -- Miller died between March and April 1824. Miller and > Nelly > had 3 children based on his will Paul, Sally and Nancy. > In June 9 1774 Solomon Willey of Worcester County, Maryland, patented > "Chance" located next to Paul Throughgood Plantation although as John > Lyons > said the land was clearly in Sussex. That is about all I can tell you > since > they are only distantly connected to my Willey line > Carol > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Schroeder" <jfstms@bellsouth.net> > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 3:03 PM > To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [LDR] Paul Thoroughgood of Sussex Co., DE > >> Is anyone on the list researching Paul Thoroughgood b. 5 Oct 1735 in >> Sussex >> Co., DE? I know his wife was named Elizabeth but I don't have a maiden >> name. I have the names of eight of his children mentioned in his will. >> >> I would like to know who his parents were. What was the relationship (if >> any) to Thomas Thoroughgood brought to this country by Edmond Scarburg ca >> 1664. >> >> Any help or leads would be appreciated. >> >> Jean >> >> *************************************** >> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Not much of a connection but Eleanor [Nelly] Willey daughter of Solomon and Eleanor Willey married Miller Thoroughgood son of Paul and Elizabeth Thoroughgood -- Miller died between March and April 1824. Miller and Nelly had 3 children based on his will Paul, Sally and Nancy. In June 9 1774 Solomon Willey of Worcester County, Maryland, patented "Chance" located next to Paul Throughgood Plantation although as John Lyons said the land was clearly in Sussex. That is about all I can tell you since they are only distantly connected to my Willey line Carol -------------------------------------------------- From: "Schroeder" <jfstms@bellsouth.net> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 3:03 PM To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Subject: [LDR] Paul Thoroughgood of Sussex Co., DE > Is anyone on the list researching Paul Thoroughgood b. 5 Oct 1735 in > Sussex > Co., DE? I know his wife was named Elizabeth but I don't have a maiden > name. I have the names of eight of his children mentioned in his will. > > I would like to know who his parents were. What was the relationship (if > any) to Thomas Thoroughgood brought to this country by Edmond Scarburg ca > 1664. > > Any help or leads would be appreciated. > > Jean > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Is anyone on the list researching Paul Thoroughgood b. 5 Oct 1735 in Sussex Co., DE? I know his wife was named Elizabeth but I don't have a maiden name. I have the names of eight of his children mentioned in his will. I would like to know who his parents were. What was the relationship (if any) to Thomas Thoroughgood brought to this country by Edmond Scarburg ca 1664. Any help or leads would be appreciated. Jean
This regular free event is now open for on-line registration. The 60 lectures and other details are also at www.baltimorefamilyhistoryworkshop.org Always a good event with a wide range of topics. This year I'll present thrice: on MD Land Records, Tract Mapping and African-American Research Using Land Records. John Lyon
Mike, Thank you for the helpful comments. My next step was, as you say, to "sift through" the deeds. I went the KY route several years ago, spending four days at the KY Archives and stopping in Lewis and Mason counties for research. The Bell and Margaret Maddux family is slow to give up its secrets! And unfortunately the KY records from the time period are few and far between. And Richard, Well, consider yourself hugged! I rechecked the online deed index and this is another case where the deed is not indexed under the grantor's name. Maybe it's standard for the MD indexes, but I've encountered 3 index oversights just for this one family grouping. In case anyone else is interested, or just for posterity, here's the story regarding this Maddux-Walston connection: In Dec 1773 Bell Maddux of Somerset Co wrote his will; he mentioned wife Margrit, son Bable, and daughters Cathren, Nancy, Betty, Rachel, Emela and Lanty Billings Sheppard. On 23 Mar 1783, Margaret Maddux and son Zorobable "formerly" of Somerset Co conveyed the lands of Bell Maddux (Ruscomon, Daniels Denn, Conveniency, Cow Quarter) to Merrill Maddux of Somerset Co. (Somerset Co Deed G: 374+) [Zorabable appeared in the 1781 Somerset Co court records for commiting a robbery. Was this their impetus to get out of town?] On 13 Aug 1784, Merrill and Comfort Maddux of Somerset Co conveyed land in Worcester Co (Riggans Addition) to Margaret Maddux. (Worcester Co Deed L: 26-27) [her son Zorabable Maddux was taxed on Riggins Addition in 1783 in Worcester Co] On 27 Oct 1791, Margaret Maddux conveyed "Riggans Addition" to Chares Walston. (Worcester Deed O: 433-434; not in grantor index under Maddux) In Mar 1797 Margaret Maddux of Worcester Co wrote her will; she mentioned daughters Cataron Ruke and Lanty Shepherd, and son-in-law Charles Walston. On 15 Feb 1802, Merrill Maddux of Somerset Co conveyed "Oak Ridge" (contiguous to "Riggans Addition") to Charles Walston. (Worcester Co Deed V: 100) On 7 Jun 1802, Charles and Nancy Walston conveyed "Oak Ridge" to John Powell. (Worcester Co Deed V: 151; deed indexed as "George Walston") On 18 Oct 1805, Charles and Nancy Walston conveyed "Riggans Addition" and "Content" to William Powell Sr. (Worcester Co Deed X: 397-398; not in grantor index under Walston) A Charles Walston, presumably the one from Worcester Co, is enumerated in the 1810 census of Fleming Co, KY; he is then enumerated in the 1820 census for Lewis Co, KY. He purchased land in Lewis Co in 1810, 1811, and 1812. He settled in the same area where Zorabable Maddux, son of Bell and Margaret Maddux, settled in 1794. The Walston surname disappears from Lewis Co in 1830 and starts appearing in Pickaway Co, OH - the same area where Zorabable Maddux and his descendants went to live. . Returning to my original question, Charles Walston definitely had a wife named Nancy from 1802 to 1805. Bell Maddux named daughter Nancy in his will in 1773. Margaret Maddux called Charles her son-in-law in 1797. The evidence certainly suggests (but does not prove) that Nancy Maddux was the wife of Charles Walston. Possibly more evidence will turn up, but I'm not going to hold my breath. Now, who was Merrill Maddux and how was he related to Bell Maddux? Were William and John Powell also related by marriage? A William Powell witnessed Margaret's will, and Charles and Nancy Walston conveyed "Riggans Addition" to a William Powell Sr. Their other property, "Oak Ridge", was conveyed to John Powell . Too many questions, too little time....
About the Waters/Neal connection... For anyone who is interested, Dorman's newest "Purse and Person" cites what must be the same letters as possible evidence that Grace O'Neil was actually from the Neale family of Bedfordshire, and he cites The Visitation as his source for that. I'm on vacation so I don't have access to my desktop files, but The Visitation is on googlebooks and it does show a Grace Neale with cousins John and James. That of course doesn't prove the connection but it is interesting. Dorman may give the source or location of these letters, I don't remember. Janice McKelvey Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2008, at 3:01 AM, lower-delmarva-roots-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Administrivia > > For information about the Lower Delmarva Roots Mailing List, > including list guidelines and instructions for unsubscribing and > subscribing, see the LDRoots FAQ: > > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Grace O'Neil - James Neale or John Neale connection ? > (Barb Holmes) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 12:16:40 -0500 > From: "Barb Holmes" <bholmes@austin.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [LDR] Grace O'Neil - James Neale or John Neale > connection ? > To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <20080810171651.SBPX15866.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@barb> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Karen, > > Can you name the source and location for the record of this > information? > > Barb > > -----Original Message----- > From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > ktrouvat@aol.com > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 5:32 AM > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LDR] Grace O'Neil - James Neale or John Neale connection ? > > > I realize that this question is not easy (or perhaps even possible) to > answer, but might anyone have information on a connection between > the family > of Grace O'Neil (c.1603-1682) and that of Capt. James Neale (c.1614- > c.1684)? > > I have found the following and wonder where (or if) the John Neale > mentioned > fits into the James Neale family. Any ideas? Karen > > > > "On the 18th of July 1654, Lt. Waters William Waters, Gent.[son of > Grace > O'Neil], was appointed guardian > of Margaret Neale [dau. of John Neale & Elizabeth (Southy)], her > mother > being lately > deceased. It appears from old letters that John Pennell, of London, > advanced > William Waters seven pounds sterling to purchase clothes, and sent > him to > Virginia > at the request of his mother, and that William Waters was a cousin > of Capt. > James Neale, > of MD. The latter wrote to his Cousin Robins from MD, 2 may 1643, > referring > to the > payment of the debt to John Pennell, and his letters indicate his > intelligence and > integrity." > > > > > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS list administrator, send an > email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS mailing list, send an > email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 281 > ****************************************************
I would like to invite all who live in the MO-AR-OK-KS area to the annual Genealogical Conference to take place in Springfield, MO on Sept 12-13. For more information, the website is: www.ozarksgs.org. The speaker this year is Lloyd deWitt Bockstruck and he'll be speaking on "How to find the maiden names of females," "Federal Bounty lands for the Revolution, 1812, Indian and Mexican Wars," "Loyalists and Tories during the American Reolution," and "Where did they go? Migrations from the Peace of Paris in 1783 to the War of 1812." Thank you for your indulgence. Jan in MO
This can be tough - sometimes the conveyance happened via a will (with the property named or unnamed) or it may have been conveyed via a Power of Attorney. Assuming your assertion that Charles Walston was in KY by 1810 may help as you could sift through the WO records from 1791 to 1810 - a somewhat arduous task but not overwhelmingly so given the 19 years. BUT, maybe he did not sell the local land and conveyed it afterwards? Or, again, maybe he conveyed it in a will made in KY? Happy hunting - these are the 'fun' treks we make with genealogical research! Best Regards, Mike Hitch "So oftentimes it happens that we live our lives in chains and we never even know we have the key." -Eagles |-----Original Message----- |From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com |[mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf |Of Pam Pearson |Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 2:21 PM |To: LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com |Subject: [LDR] Finding Worcester County Land Records by Property Name | |Is there a way to trace a particular piece of property in |Worcester County? | |"Riggans Addition" was sold by Merrill and Comfort Maddux of |Somerset Co to Margaret Maddux on 13 Aug 1784. (Deed L: 26-27) |Margaret Maddux sold "Riggans Addition" to Charles Walston on |27 Oct 1791 (Deed O: 433-434) | |I haven't been able to find a deed where Charles Walston (or |anyone else by the name of Walston) conveyed this property to |someone else. Charles Walston moved west to Fleming/Lewis |County, KY by 1810. |Thank you. |*************************************** |QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? |Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: |http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm |------------------------------- |To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to |LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word |'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body |of the message |
Is there a way to trace a particular piece of property in Worcester County? "Riggans Addition" was sold by Merrill and Comfort Maddux of Somerset Co to Margaret Maddux on 13 Aug 1784. (Deed L: 26-27) Margaret Maddux sold "Riggans Addition" to Charles Walston on 27 Oct 1791 (Deed O: 433-434) I haven't been able to find a deed where Charles Walston (or anyone else by the name of Walston) conveyed this property to someone else. Charles Walston moved west to Fleming/Lewis County, KY by 1810. Thank you.
Pam, There's a deed in Liber X, p. 397 from Charles Walston (wife Nancy) of Worcester Co., Md., dated 18 October 1805, in which he sells 92 and three-quarter acres of "Riggins Addition" and 100 acres of "Content" for $200 to William Powell Senr., also of Worcester Co. Hope this is what you were looking for. Richard Wilson > |-----Original Message----- > |From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com > |[mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > |Of Pam Pearson > |Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 2:21 PM > |To: LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com > |Subject: [LDR] Finding Worcester County Land Records by Property Name > | > |Is there a way to trace a particular piece of property in > |Worcester County? > | > |"Riggans Addition" was sold by Merrill and Comfort Maddux of > |Somerset Co to Margaret Maddux on 13 Aug 1784. (Deed L: 26-27) > |Margaret Maddux sold "Riggans Addition" to Charles Walston on > |27 Oct 1791 (Deed O: 433-434) > | > |I haven't been able to find a deed where Charles Walston (or > |anyone else by the name of Walston) conveyed this property to > |someone else. Charles Walston moved west to Fleming/Lewis > |County, KY by 1810. > |Thank you.
Barb, I don't know the actual source, but I have the location of the information concerning William Waters as being named guardian of Margaret Neale: ?http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~digginforroots/documents/neale.htm the contact e-mail is:? lfh@prodigy.net (As I'm living in Europe, most of my information must come from web postings ...)? Karen Karen, Can you name the source and location for the record of this information? Barb