Hello, Can anyone help me with information on "my" Sarah Fisher, she died in August 1801. She was married to John Morriston 7-1773/8-1801 in Caroline County, Md. They had 2 children Elizabeth who marred Thomas Noble and Fisher Morriston m. unknown. John's parents were John and Comfort Robinson Morriston. I have no leads what so ever on Sarah's parents or line and would appreciate any help at all. Thank you, Gwen Hignutt-Wint -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Miller's Choice" <milchoice@yahoo.com> > Hi Pat, > Sarah Fisher was born 24 Apr 1698 in Manokin to John and Jane Fisher. John > Fisher was deputy clerk of court in the 1690s, became clerk of court before his > death in 1710 and lived on the tract Davis's Choice on the south side of the > Manokin River. I have looked at fitting him in as a brother to Philip Fisher > who married Elizabeth Maddux but at this juncture it is even less than "less > than conclusive" if there if such a thing. So much so that I don't even have > them linked in the database with a question mark. Perhaps someone on the list > has something to convince me that my John Fisher belongs with the Accomack > family. > I don't know anything about Philip Fisher even having a daughter Sarah. > Sorry. > Becky > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Patricia Charron > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, September 8, 2008 10:14:54 PM > Subject: Re: [LDR] Rawley and Rencher & Underwood > > Becky,I am off your track and annoying, but can you tell us a little about > Sarah Fisher? I know that Phillip and Elizabeth Maddox Fisher had a daughter > Sarah speculatively sometime in these 1690's. Is Phillip and Eliz's daughter > yours, or is Phillip's daughter Sarah the one who married William > Grice/Grace? Pat > > -----Original Message----- > From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Miller's > Choice > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 3:51 PM > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDR] Rawley and Rencher & Underwood > > I descend from John Rencher (d. 1711) three ways: > 1. daughter Elizabeth (1678-post 1729) m. John Grandee-Roberts > 2. son Thomas Rencher (1687-1772) m. Bridget Shiles > 3. son Underwood Rencher (1692-1750) m. Sarah Fisher > > Another son, Samuell Rencher, ancestor of Martha Shroeder of this list, > witnessed the will of James Ralley on 12 March 1710/1711 (EB9:1) who had a > wife Frances and a number of children, including a son William who sold > Ireland Eye to my ancestor John Shores in 1713 which Shores sold to John > Nicholson in 1724 (GH:160). Samuel Rencher signed as next of kin on the > inventory of James Royle on 22 March 1710/11 (32B:265). > > Ralley and Royle are apparently the same man and is also likely the James > Rawley who owned Ireland's Eye which I believe is in or near the community > of Sharptown. > My question to Martha and anyone else is: Who is James Rawley and why did > Samuel Rencher sign as a next of kin on the inventory of his estate? > > There should be a lot of Rencher descendants on this list and I hope someone > has looked into the identity of > John Rencher's wife, Frances, surname unknown to me. I'm looking at Rawley > for a clue. I thought perhaps Frances was an Underwood considering a son > was named Underwood. > Anthony Underwood owned Little Belean because he married the widow of Robert > Ridgely of St. Mary's County (d. 1681), but I don't know anything else about > him (and haven't looked thoroughly as yet). > > Any help or thoughts welcome. I'm trying to make a list of specifics I need > to look up at the MSA in Annapolis sometime this fall. > > Thanks, > Becky M > > > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Becky: We have met and talked before about the Renshaws in Mt. Vernon (at the Nabb Center). My husband is a Renshaw whose ancestors came from that area. It's been a couple of years since I last did research on his family. My research has found that Frances' maiden name was Clarke. She and John were married about 1677 in Somerset County. Underwood's wife's name was Sarah (nee Fisher), daughter of John and Jane Fisher. (Jane married a second time, after the death of John, to ? Alsey, Alsey; AKA Elzey) The Nabb Center has this info. on file. I have seen the name "Rawley" in my research, but I'd have to look through my notes to find it. Barbara Renshaw, Salisbury ----- Original Message ----- From: "Miller's Choice" <milchoice@yahoo.com> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] Rawley and Rencher & Underwood I descend from John Rencher (d. 1711) three ways: 1. daughter Elizabeth (1678-post 1729) m. John Grandee-Roberts 2. son Thomas Rencher (1687-1772) m. Bridget Shiles 3. son Underwood Rencher (1692-1750) m. Sarah Fisher Another son, Samuell Rencher, ancestor of Martha Shroeder of this list, witnessed the will of James Ralley on 12 March 1710/1711 (EB9:1) who had a wife Frances and a number of children, including a son William who sold Ireland Eye to my ancestor John Shores in 1713 which Shores sold to John Nicholson in 1724 (GH:160). Samuel Rencher signed as next of kin on the inventory of James Royle on 22 March 1710/11 (32B:265). Ralley and Royle are apparently the same man and is also likely the James Rawley who owned Ireland's Eye which I believe is in or near the community of Sharptown. My question to Martha and anyone else is: Who is James Rawley and why did Samuel Rencher sign as a next of kin on the inventory of his estate? There should be a lot of Rencher descendants on this list and I hope someone has looked into the identity of John Rencher's wife, Frances, surname unknown to me. I'm looking at Rawley for a clue. I thought perhaps Frances was an Underwood considering a son was named Underwood. Anthony Underwood owned Little Belean because he married the widow of Robert Ridgely of St. Mary's County (d. 1681), but I don't know anything else about him (and haven't looked thoroughly as yet). Any help or thoughts welcome. I'm trying to make a list of specifics I need to look up at the MSA in Annapolis sometime this fall. Thanks, Becky M *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I thought Underwood Rencher's (1692-1750) wife was named Eleanor Fisher. I don't remember coming across the name Sarah. I think John Rencher's (d. 1711) wife may have been Frances Underwood, daughter of Thomas Underwood and Elizabeth.

Hi Pat,   Sarah Fisher was born 24 Apr 1698 in Manokin to John and Jane Fisher.  John Fisher was deputy clerk of court in the 1690s, became clerk of court before his death in 1710 and lived on the tract Davis's Choice on the south side of the Manokin River.  I have looked at fitting him in as a brother to Philip Fisher who married Elizabeth Maddux but at this juncture it is even less than "less than conclusive" if there if such a thing. So much so that I don't even have them linked in the database with a question mark.  Perhaps someone on the list has something to convince me that my John Fisher belongs with the Accomack family.   I don't know anything about Philip Fisher even having a daughter Sarah.  Sorry. Becky ----- Original Message ---- From: Patricia Charron <patricia7@cinci.rr.com> To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, September 8, 2008 10:14:54 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] Rawley and Rencher & Underwood Becky,I am off your track and annoying, but can you tell us a little about Sarah Fisher? I know that Phillip and Elizabeth Maddox Fisher had a daughter Sarah speculatively sometime in these 1690's. Is Phillip and Eliz's daughter yours, or is Phillip's daughter Sarah the one who married William Grice/Grace? Pat -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Miller's Choice Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 3:51 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Rawley and Rencher & Underwood I descend from John Rencher (d. 1711) three ways: 1.  daughter Elizabeth (1678-post 1729) m. John Grandee-Roberts 2.  son Thomas Rencher (1687-1772) m. Bridget Shiles 3.  son Underwood Rencher (1692-1750) m. Sarah Fisher   Another son, Samuell Rencher, ancestor of Martha Shroeder of this list, witnessed the will of James Ralley on 12 March 1710/1711 (EB9:1) who had a wife Frances and a number of children, including a son William who sold Ireland Eye to my ancestor John Shores in 1713 which Shores sold to John Nicholson in 1724 (GH:160).  Samuel Rencher signed as next of kin on the inventory of James Royle on 22 March 1710/11 (32B:265).    Ralley and Royle are apparently the same man and is also likely the James Rawley who owned Ireland's Eye which I believe is in or near the community of Sharptown. My question to Martha and anyone else is:  Who is James Rawley and why did Samuel Rencher sign as a next of kin on the inventory of his estate?   There should be a lot of Rencher descendants on this list and I hope someone has looked into the identity of John Rencher's wife, Frances, surname unknown to me.  I'm looking at Rawley for a clue.  I thought perhaps Frances was an Underwood considering a son was named Underwood.  Anthony Underwood owned Little Belean because he married the widow of Robert Ridgely of St. Mary's County (d. 1681), but I don't know anything else about him (and haven't looked thoroughly as yet).   Any help or thoughts welcome.  I'm trying to make a list of specifics I need to look up at the MSA in Annapolis sometime this fall.   Thanks, Becky M       *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: <lower-delmarva-roots-request@rootsweb.com> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 2:00 AM Subject: LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 308 > > > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Administrivia > > For information about the Lower Delmarva Roots Mailing List, including > list guidelines and instructions for unsubscribing and subscribing, see > the LDRoots FAQ: > > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Maryland State Archives research (Sally Rudolph) > 2. Re: Rawley and Rencher & Underwood (Miller's Choice) > 3. Re: Rawley and Rencher & Underwood (Patricia Charron) > 4. Re: Finding Worcester County Land Records by Property Name > (Patricia Charron) > 5. Re: Address of loyalty 1689 (Patricia Charron) > 6. Re: Rawley and Rencher & Underwood (Patricia Charron) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:56:09 -0400 > From: "Sally Rudolph" <Sara.Rudolph@worldnet.att.net> > Subject: Re: [LDR] Maryland State Archives research > To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <MFBBIHMOEGMJBOHLMHLOAEBACHAA.Sara.Rudolph@worldnet.att.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" > > Thank you for this information and all others who were kind enough to send > information and to share their experiences with the archives. > > Hopefully, we will be able to find something to tie our great, great > grandfather Samuel Henry Savage to his family in MD. I have exhausted > family history, local resources, and on-line resources, with no luck. > > Sally Savage Rudolph > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Frank > Collins > Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 12:22 PM > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LDR] Maryland State Archives research > > > It is very important that researchers do their homework before visiting > the > archives. www.mdsa.net is the website for the archives. If you visit the > archives, this is the same website you will see to request records. So it > is best to know what you want before you visit. Otherwise you will waste > a > lot of time at the Archives trying to decide what to request. > > If you are looking for State, County, Municipal records (paper, microfilm, > or digital), they can be found at this link. http://guide.mdsa.net/ > Click on all the links to see what they have for your county. The records > referred to as Transferred indicated archives staff haven't completed the > process to fully describe the contents. Due to funding many of these > records labelled as Transferred have remained under the Tranferred title > for > many many years. For each record, the question will remain what type of > information is contained in the record and is the record indexed. In > some > cases you will not know until you request the record an take a look at it > (microfilm, digital, or paper). The types of records available will vary > somewhat by county. I have tried to take a small snapshot of Dorchester > County by providing the contents of certain types of records on my "in > progress" East New Market, MD website. www.eastnewmarket.org Click on > the > links for Tax Records, Court Records, and Probate records for examples of > these types of records. > > I would recommend researching land records online at www.mdlandrec.net and > researching Government Acts at http://aomol.net/html/index.html rather > than > visiting the Archives. > > Some workers at the archives are volunteers/interns and probably many are > underpaid for the valuable work they do. I have found all the people at > the > help desk to be very helpful, especially Robert Barnes. The staff may > sometime appear to be crabby when certain people are making unrealistic > demands of them. They are not going to do your research for you. I have > found that a smile and thank you goes a long way with the staff at the > info > desk. Maryland residents should contact their state representatives to > request more funding for the archives. > > Frank > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.17/1655 - Release Date: 9/5/08 > 7:05 > PM > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.17/1655 - Release Date: 9/5/08 > 7:05 > PM > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 12:50:51 -0700 (PDT) > From: "Miller's Choice" <milchoice@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [LDR] Rawley and Rencher & Underwood > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <263971.66620.qm@web56605.mail.re3.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > I descend from John Rencher (d. 1711) three ways: > 1.? daughter Elizabeth (1678-post 1729) m. John Grandee-Roberts > 2.? son Thomas Rencher (1687-1772)?m. Bridget Shiles > 3.? son Underwood Rencher (1692-1750) m.?Sarah Fisher > ? > Another son, Samuell Rencher, ancestor of Martha Shroeder of this list, > witnessed the will of James Ralley on 12 March 1710/1711 (EB9:1) who had a > wife Frances and?a number of children, including a son William who sold > Ireland Eye to my ancestor John Shores in 1713 which Shores sold to John > Nicholson in 1724 (GH:160). ?Samuel Rencher signed as next of kin on the > inventory of James Royle on 22 March 1710/11 (32B:265).? > ? > Ralley and Royle are apparently the same man and is also likely the James > Rawley who owned Ireland's Eye which I believe is in or near the community > of Sharptown. > My question to Martha and anyone else is:? Who is James Rawley and why?did > Samuel Rencher sign as a next of kin on the inventory of his estate? > ? > There should be a lot of Rencher descendants on this list and I hope > someone has looked into the identity of > John Rencher's wife, Frances,?surname unknown to me.? I'm looking at > Rawley for a clue.? I thought perhaps Frances was an Underwood considering > a son was named Underwood.? > Anthony Underwood owned Little Belean?because he married the widow of > Robert Ridgely of St. Mary's County (d. 1681),?but I don't know anything > else about him (and haven't looked thoroughly as yet). > ? > Any help or thoughts welcome.? I'm trying to make a list of?specifics I > need to look up at the MSA in Annapolis sometime this fall. > ? > Thanks, > Becky M > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 22:19:23 -0400 > From: "Patricia Charron" <patricia7@cinci.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [LDR] Rawley and Rencher & Underwood > To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <07598C3A15834D5E864CC1F763A7E7D8@kitchenfruit> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I misspoke, the Sarah Fisher born to Phillip and Eliz Maddox Fisher would > be > too old for your Underwood Rencher. Perhaps a grandchild? Pat > -----Original Message----- > From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Miller's > Choice > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 3:51 PM > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDR] Rawley and Rencher & Underwood > > I descend from John Rencher (d. 1711) three ways: > 1.? daughter Elizabeth (1678-post 1729) m. John Grandee-Roberts > 2.? son Thomas Rencher (1687-1772)?m. Bridget Shiles > 3.? son Underwood Rencher (1692-1750) m.?Sarah Fisher > ? > Another son, Samuell Rencher, ancestor of Martha Shroeder of this list, > witnessed the will of James Ralley on 12 March 1710/1711 (EB9:1) who had a > wife Frances and?a number of children, including a son William who sold > Ireland Eye to my ancestor John Shores in 1713 which Shores sold to John > Nicholson in 1724 (GH:160). ?Samuel Rencher signed as next of kin on the > inventory of James Royle on 22 March 1710/11 (32B:265).? > ? > Ralley and Royle are apparently the same man and is also likely the James > Rawley who owned Ireland's Eye which I believe is in or near the community > of Sharptown. > My question to Martha and anyone else is:? Who is James Rawley and why?did > Samuel Rencher sign as a next of kin on the inventory of his estate? > ? > There should be a lot of Rencher descendants on this list and I hope > someone > has looked into the identity of > John Rencher's wife, Frances,?surname unknown to me.? I'm looking at > Rawley > for a clue.? I thought perhaps Frances was an Underwood considering a son > was named Underwood.? > Anthony Underwood owned Little Belean?because he married the widow of > Robert > Ridgely of St. Mary's County (d. 1681),?but I don't know anything else > about > him (and haven't looked thoroughly as yet). > ? > Any help or thoughts welcome.? I'm trying to make a list of?specifics I > need > to look up at the MSA in Annapolis sometime this fall. > ? > Thanks, > Becky M > > > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 22:29:12 -0400 > From: "Patricia Charron" <patricia7@cinci.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [LDR] Finding Worcester County Land Records by Property > Name > To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <94651043758A410F8BC6636120198D17@kitchenfruit> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > This is a bit late due to my squirrel in a cage technology as I sit in NH > 40 > miles from the Canadian border waiting for a nut to fall and fuel my > e-mail > provider. Sorry. > > Ahhh, my favorite spider web...the Maddocks/Maddox/Maddux family. I too am > away on vacation and without files. Sooo...I'm talking though my hat > here... > > I have Merril and Bell Maddox in my database as a sort of hip-shove > reference. If I have more proof, I'll send them on as soon as I get out of > the boonies and get to my Maddox/ux notes. > > It appears that Bell Maddox and my Lazarus descend from two marriages of > Alexander Maddox ( there's about 15 Alexanders... careful). The father of > Bell in my working data with me is Thomas Maddox the presumed husband of > one > Mary Bell. I do not pursue this line so proof is not in the sketchy data > with me. Thomas is the son of Alexander and Mary Stevens Maddux. My line > of > interest is Alexander and second wife Elinor White Bozeman ( later Caine) > who's son Lazarus spawns a brood, most of whom leave MD. > > I do wish to point out that the mid 1780's is marked by the discovery of > gold in GA and the passing out of many Rev War soldier grants in GA. I > mention GA because I can prove that many of the grandsons of this Maddox > line transfer from a Baptist Church in Sussex, DE to founding a Baptist > Church in GA... The Powell Creek Baptist Church. Lazarus' son Alexander is > claimed by a Powell line as the husband of Elizabeth Powell, I know I have > her line at home and a traceable land record... The Maddox line splits > here, > and the bulk goes on to IL. One skinny string goes to AL...I think. I'm > working on it. There is a whole packet of provable MD/DE lines that come > to > GA in this time period. > > In addition, there is a Maddox line in GA that comes from NC in the same > time period. I have to tell you, this bunch of Madddox/ux is in > Bute/Warren > Co NC in the 1760's and contains an intermarrying cluster of Bells, > Powells, > and Riggins of unproved origin. The bulk of this cluster go to KY and TN. > > One further observation, probably ground you have covered, Merril Maddux's > wife was Comfort Coston daughter of Mathias and Elizabeth Riggin Coston. > This might source your Riggin land. And, as I poke around in this group, I > keep stepping on Tulls. I don't follow Tulls, but I'm just pointing out > that > if you find Tulls in your land search, you may have hit the right > neighborhood. > > Darren Dodson ( a Maddox researcher, sent the following: > > 1880 Bells District 817, Cherokee County ( GA) Census. Spelling of first > name looks like Waldon in 1880. > > I find nothing in the 1900 Census, and of course the 1890 Census was > destroyed . > > In the 1910 Decatur, DeKalb Co, GA Census, Walton M. "LATTOX" (34) is > listed > with wife Sallie (26) and one daughter, Neta (4). Walton is an Insurance > Solicitor. > > In the 1920 Marietta, Cobb Co, GA Census, Walton M. MADDOX (48) is married > to Sallie (37). They have a daughter, Neta Bell (14). > > In 1930 Cobb, Walton MADDOX (56) lives alone with his wife Sallie (46). If > this age is correct, then this is consistant with the Waldon on the 1880 > Census. Because of the similarity of the names Waldon and Walton, and > because of the similarity of age and location, I am assuming that Walton > MADDOX, husband of Sallie, and Azalee's brother Waldon are the same > person. > > This Walton Maddux is later than you want, but interesting. I don't agree > with Darren's speculations as to the 1700's origins of his Maddox line, > but > his research is good as far as it goes. > > Without data I am of little use to you, except to offer a few oddities of > possible sources. Patricia > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pam > Pearson > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 12:26 PM > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDR] Finding Worcester County Land Records by Property Name > > Mike, > > Thank you for the helpful comments. My next step was, as you say, to "sift > through" the deeds. I went the KY route several years ago, spending four > days at the KY Archives and stopping in Lewis and Mason counties for > research. The Bell and Margaret Maddux family is slow to give up its > secrets! And unfortunately the KY records from the time period are few and > far between. > > And Richard, > > Well, consider yourself hugged! I rechecked the online deed index and this > is another case where the deed is not indexed under the grantor's name. > Maybe it's standard for the MD indexes, but I've encountered 3 index > oversights just for this one family grouping. > > In case anyone else is interested, or just for posterity, here's the story > regarding this Maddux-Walston connection: > > In Dec 1773 Bell Maddux of Somerset Co wrote his will; he mentioned wife > Margrit, son Bable, and daughters Cathren, Nancy, Betty, Rachel, Emela and > Lanty Billings Sheppard. > > On 23 Mar 1783, Margaret Maddux and son Zorobable "formerly" of Somerset > Co > conveyed the lands of Bell Maddux (Ruscomon, Daniels Denn, Conveniency, > Cow > Quarter) to Merrill Maddux of Somerset Co. (Somerset Co Deed G: 374+) > [Zorabable appeared in the 1781 Somerset Co court records for commiting a > robbery. Was this their impetus to get out of town?] > > On 13 Aug 1784, Merrill and Comfort Maddux of Somerset Co conveyed land in > Worcester Co (Riggans Addition) to Margaret Maddux. (Worcester Co Deed L: > 26-27) [her son Zorabable Maddux was taxed on Riggins Addition in 1783 in > Worcester Co] > > On 27 Oct 1791, Margaret Maddux conveyed "Riggans Addition" to Chares > Walston. (Worcester Deed O: 433-434; not in grantor index under Maddux) > > In Mar 1797 Margaret Maddux of Worcester Co wrote her will; she mentioned > daughters Cataron Ruke and Lanty Shepherd, and son-in-law Charles Walston. > > On 15 Feb 1802, Merrill Maddux of Somerset Co conveyed "Oak Ridge" > (contiguous to "Riggans Addition") to Charles Walston. (Worcester Co Deed > V: > > 100) > On 7 Jun 1802, Charles and Nancy Walston conveyed "Oak Ridge" to John > Powell. (Worcester Co Deed V: 151; deed indexed as "George Walston") > > On 18 Oct 1805, Charles and Nancy Walston conveyed "Riggans Addition" and > "Content" to William Powell Sr. (Worcester Co Deed X: 397-398; not in > grantor index under Walston) > > A Charles Walston, presumably the one from Worcester Co, is enumerated in > the 1810 census of Fleming Co, KY; he is then enumerated in the 1820 > census > for Lewis Co, KY. He purchased land in Lewis Co in 1810, 1811, and 1812. > He > settled in the same area where Zorabable Maddux, son of Bell and Margaret > Maddux, settled in 1794. The Walston surname disappears from Lewis Co in > 1830 and starts appearing in Pickaway Co, OH - the same area where > Zorabable > > Maddux and his descendants went to live. > . > Returning to my original question, Charles Walston definitely had a wife > named Nancy from 1802 to 1805. Bell Maddux named daughter Nancy in his > will > in 1773. Margaret Maddux called Charles her son-in-law in 1797. The > evidence > > certainly suggests (but does not prove) that Nancy Maddux was the wife of > Charles Walston. Possibly more evidence will turn up, but I'm not going to > hold my breath. > > Now, who was Merrill Maddux and how was he related to Bell Maddux? Were > William and John Powell also related by marriage? A William Powell > witnessed > > Margaret's will, and Charles and Nancy Walston conveyed "Riggans Addition" > to a William Powell Sr. Their other property, "Oak Ridge", was conveyed to > John Powell . Too many questions, too little time.... > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 22:29:37 -0400 > From: "Patricia Charron" <patricia7@cinci.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [LDR] Address of loyalty 1689 > To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <36D7B37BE88549DFB592CD7C26B45106@kitchenfruit> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Stewart...preferred Scot spelling....Stuart...French preferred > spelling...Mary Stewart/Stuart was briefly married to the heir of the > French > throne whose Medici mother allowed him to die rather than have a mastoid > operated on. > > Siblings James II was raised at the French throne with his Catholic > grandmother and Ann lived with her sister Mary in the Protestant Orange > environs....thus the followed their youthful bent. Anything was better > than > returning to the days of the Cromwell spirit of suppression. Pat. > > -----Original Message----- > From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Polk > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 9:37 AM > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDR] Address of loyalty 1689 > > You are right of course - Catholic Stewart (Stuart), singular, not plural. > James II was perceived as a Catholic and his accession in 1685 led to > turmoil and the fear of the reinstatement of Catholicism in England. This > boiled over when James had the audacity to produce a son in 1688, raising > the prospect of a Catholic dynasty. This precipitated the crisis that > brought William and Mary to the throne, with the attendant repercussions > in > Maryland I was describing. > John Polk > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patricia Charron" <patricia7@cinci.rr.com> > To: "'David Kearney'" <kearneyd@erols.com>; > <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 4:05 PM > Subject: Re: [LDR] Address of loyalty 1689 > > >> Let's keep in mind, of the 6 Stewarts only James II was a Catholic, and > the >> Mary of William and Mary was a Stewart as was her sister Queen Anne who >> succeeded them. the Catholic Stewarts" is a myth...there was only one. >> England was Protestant since Henry VIII got the country placed under >> Interdict wherein the practice of the Catholic faith was forbidden in >> England by the Church itself. ( Yes, Charles I is rumored to have > requested >> a priest at his death, but he was NOT a Catholic King, just a Catholic > dead >> man. Pat. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David >> Kearney >> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 2:02 PM >> To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com >> Cc: David Roberts; kathlingram >> Subject: Re: [LDR] Address of loyalty 1689 >> >> John Polk wrote: >>> I had chance to visit British Public Records Office >> (PRO) at Kew several years ago and took the opportunity to look at the >> original Address of Loyalty document. It is archived in PRO, not Maryland >> Archives, because it was, after all, sent to William and Mary and all the >> royal records end up in PRO. If anyone else wishes to see it, it is found > in >> CO5-718, p.64. (CO refers to Colonial Office). I have a photocopy of it. > The >> Somerset Address is unfortunately not the actual document signed by the >> citizens, but a "true coppy from the original" made by Peter Dent, Deputy >> Collector of Customs for Somerset. ... The volume contains all of the >> Addresses of Loyalty received from the Maryland counties - Somerset's was >> not the only one. Not all of the counties wrote one, although the > Associator >> government that had seized power from Lord Baltimore in 1689 strongly >> encouraged all to do so. William and Mary had just come to the throne in >> England, displacing the Catholic ! >> Stewarts, and it was their accession that triggered the Protestant > faction >> in Maryland - the Associators - to stage the bloodless coup which we now >> call the Maryland Revolution. <<< >> >> _____________ >> >> >> >> John and All, >> >> >> >> I'm enjoying the discussion involving the Address of Loyalty. I'm > interested >> in how the Address fits into how the different religious groups in > colonial >> Maryland interacted during the period. In this regard, given Maryland's >> Catholic-influenced roots, it's interesting to explore the colonial > history >> from a somewhat "Catholic-centric" perspective. Of course, as with most >> everything, different angles of view exist. >> >> >> >> David Roberts, who I've "met" through another rootsweb list, has passed >> along some interesting information about the interplay of the different >> religions during Maryland's colonial days. David lives in St. Mary's > County, >> Maryland, and has studied local history for many years. >> >> >> >> Despite early Maryland's identification with the Catholic faith of the > Lords >> Baltimore, David cautions that except for Jesuits in Cecil County - > Bohemia >> Manor - and a few other spots on the Upper Eastern Shore, there really >> wasn't much Catholic presence on the Eastern Shore of Maryland or >> Delaware >> or on Virginia's Eastern Shore during the colonial period. He states that >> Catholics were mostly in southern Maryland during the colonial period, >> including St. Mary's County; Charles County; Prince George's County; and >> Frederick County. All of these counties are on the Western Shore. >> Nevertheless, given the Catholic faith of Maryland's proprietors through >> much of the 1600s, the possible importance of Catholic influence in all >> of >> Maryland, including the Eastern Shore, shouldn't be overlooked. >> >> >> >> Prior to the Revolution, Maryland was one of the few places in English >> colonial America with a significant Catholic population. According to > David, >> some clusters of Catholics also existed in various places in colonial >> Pennsylvania. Maryland as a whole in the 1600s reflected a somewhat > uniquely >> diverse mixture of religious faiths in the English American colonies. >> >> >> >> The English Jesuits held huge land-grant "manors" in Maryland through the >> 18th century, with David indicating that the four largest were Bohemia on >> the Upper Eastern Shore in Cecil County; St. Thomas at Chapel Point, > Charles >> County; St. Inigoes in lower St. Mary's County (present-day St. Inigoes); >> and Newtown at Newtown Neck, near Leonardtown in St. Mary's County. >> >> >> >> The Jesuits have held St. Thomas since 1641, under a grant from Lord >> Baltimore #2. The church there - St. Ignatius - claims to be the oldest >> uninterrupted English-speaking Roman Catholic Church in the United >> States. >> See www.chapelpoint.org. >> >> >> >> Under Maryland law the Jesuit Order didn't own the land, but the > individual >> priests did. When "popery" was outlawed in the 1690s, the priests could >> continue on these manors since "Father X" owned the land - not as a > priest, >> but as a private white male English subject - thus this legal loop-hole >> allowed the Roman Church to operate until Religious Freedom was restored > in >> 1776. Catholic churches were built on this "private" land, with St. > Francis >> Xavier at Newtown (1731) being the oldest one still standing, according >> to >> David. >> >> >> >> David relates that the Jesuits ran mission churches all over Maryland & >> preached into northern Virginia and southern Pennsylvania. He explains > that >> "popery" was illegal in Virginia, but that a Catholic group - the Brent >> group - survived in Stafford County, Virginia from the 1640s. The >> Virginia >> government left the Brent group alone because of its wealth & influence. >> >> >> >> David understands that some "Methodist migrations" from the Lower Eastern >> Shore & the Virginia's Eastern Shore into southern St. Mary's County, >> Maryland occurred circa 1820-1860, mostly watermen. He says that St. > George >> Island UMC on St. George Island (in the Potomac) and First Friendship UMC > in >> Ridge are both Eastern Shore-based, with the "local" members tending to > have >> descended from Eastern Shore Methodists, rather than from earlier, > "native" >> St. Mary's County stock. >> >> >> >> One of the groups involved in the 17th Century power plays in Maryland > were >> Puritans who had been persecuted in Virginia, found welcome refuge in >> more >> tolerant Maryland, and then turned on the Catholic establishment. See, > e.g., >> Joseph L. Meek Manuscript, members.aol.com/chantery/Articles/JLM_3.htm. >> Later, the "Glorious Revolution" in England that resulted in William and >> Mary taking the throne, and that was the impetus for the "Address of >> Loyalty" from the American subjects (and others?), had the ironic effect > of >> terminating what had been in Maryland a remarkable degree of religious >> freedom and tolerance. >> >> >> >> See Let None Dare Call It Liberty: The Catholic Church in Colonial > America, >> by Marian T. Horvat, Ph.D., >> www.traditioninaction.org/History/B_001_Colonies.html, for some very > pointed >> views: >> >> >> >> "The 'Maryland Experiment' began when Charles I issued a generous charter > to >> a prominent Catholic convert from Anglicanism, Lord Cecil Calvert, for >> the >> American colony of Maryland. In the new colony, religious tolerance for > all >> so-called Christians was preserved by Calvert until 1654. In that year, >> Puritans from Virginia succeeded in overthrowing Calvert's rule, although >> Calvert regained control four years later. The last major political > uprising >> took place in 1689, when the 'Glorious Revolution" of William and Mary >> ignited a new anti-Catholic revolt in Maryland, and the rule of the next >> Lord Baltimore, Charles Calvert, was overthrown. >> >> "Therefore, in 1692 Maryland's famous Religious Toleration Act officially >> ended, and the Maryland Assembly established the so-called Church of > England >> as the official State religion supported by tax levies. Restrictions were >> imposed on Catholics for public worship, and priests could be prosecuted > for >> saying Mass. Although Catholics generally maintained their social status, >> they were denied the right to vote or otherwise participate in the >> government of the colony their ancestors had founded. This barebones > history >> is the real story of the famous religious liberty of colonial Maryland." >> >> >> >> [citation omitted] >> >> >> >> For more background, see also Colonial History of Maryland, from Our >> Country, Volume 1, >> www.publicbookshelf.com/public_html/Our_Country_Vol_1/colonialh_ig.html; >> Province of Maryland, >> > en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Maryland#Maryland_and_the_English_Civil_Wa >> r; History of the United States of America, by Henry William Elson, The >> MacMillan Company, New York, 1904, chapter IV, pp. 75-83, transcribed by >> Kathy Leigh, www.usgennet.org/usa/topic/colonial/book/chap4_2.html; and >> Historic St. Mary's City, www.stmaryscity.org/History.html. >> >> >> >> I'm interested in the thoughts and other input of list members on the >> interactions, both "good" and "bad," of people of different faiths in the >> Lower Delmarva during the colonial period and how that might have > influenced >> our Delmarva ancestors' lives. For instance, does anyone have known >> ancestors from the area who renounced their Catholic faith during the > 1600s? >> >> >> >> Dave K >> *************************************** >> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> *************************************** >> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 22:14:54 -0400 > From: "Patricia Charron" <patricia7@cinci.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [LDR] Rawley and Rencher & Underwood > To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <D9B2230FF0E0493FB784B9CDEA156AE7@kitchenfruit> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Becky,I am off your track and annoying, but can you tell us a little about > Sarah Fisher? I know that Phillip and Elizabeth Maddox Fisher had a > daughter > Sarah speculatively sometime in these 1690's. Is Phillip and Eliz's > daughter > yours, or is Phillip's daughter Sarah the one who married William > Grice/Grace? Pat > > -----Original Message----- > From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Miller's > Choice > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 3:51 PM > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDR] Rawley and Rencher & Underwood > > I descend from John Rencher (d. 1711) three ways: > 1.? daughter Elizabeth (1678-post 1729) m. John Grandee-Roberts > 2.? son Thomas Rencher (1687-1772)?m. Bridget Shiles > 3.? son Underwood Rencher (1692-1750) m.?Sarah Fisher > ? > Another son, Samuell Rencher, ancestor of Martha Shroeder of this list, > witnessed the will of James Ralley on 12 March 1710/1711 (EB9:1) who had a > wife Frances and?a number of children, including a son William who sold > Ireland Eye to my ancestor John Shores in 1713 which Shores sold to John > Nicholson in 1724 (GH:160). ?Samuel Rencher signed as next of kin on the > inventory of James Royle on 22 March 1710/11 (32B:265).? > ? > Ralley and Royle are apparently the same man and is also likely the James > Rawley who owned Ireland's Eye which I believe is in or near the community > of Sharptown. > My question to Martha and anyone else is:? Who is James Rawley and why?did > Samuel Rencher sign as a next of kin on the inventory of his estate? > ? > There should be a lot of Rencher descendants on this list and I hope > someone > has looked into the identity of > John Rencher's wife, Frances,?surname unknown to me.? I'm looking at > Rawley > for a clue.? I thought perhaps Frances was an Underwood considering a son > was named Underwood.? > Anthony Underwood owned Little Belean?because he married the widow of > Robert > Ridgely of St. Mary's County (d. 1681),?but I don't know anything else > about > him (and haven't looked thoroughly as yet). > ? > Any help or thoughts welcome.? I'm trying to make a list of?specifics I > need > to look up at the MSA in Annapolis sometime this fall. > ? > Thanks, > Becky M > > > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS list administrator, send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS mailing list, send an email > to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 308 > **************************************************** >

Stewart...preferred Scot spelling....Stuart...French preferred spelling...Mary Stewart/Stuart was briefly married to the heir of the French throne whose Medici mother allowed him to die rather than have a mastoid operated on. Siblings James II was raised at the French throne with his Catholic grandmother and Ann lived with her sister Mary in the Protestant Orange environs....thus the followed their youthful bent. Anything was better than returning to the days of the Cromwell spirit of suppression. Pat. -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Polk Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 9:37 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Address of loyalty 1689 You are right of course - Catholic Stewart (Stuart), singular, not plural. James II was perceived as a Catholic and his accession in 1685 led to turmoil and the fear of the reinstatement of Catholicism in England. This boiled over when James had the audacity to produce a son in 1688, raising the prospect of a Catholic dynasty. This precipitated the crisis that brought William and Mary to the throne, with the attendant repercussions in Maryland I was describing. John Polk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Charron" <patricia7@cinci.rr.com> To: "'David Kearney'" <kearneyd@erols.com>; <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] Address of loyalty 1689 > Let's keep in mind, of the 6 Stewarts only James II was a Catholic, and the > Mary of William and Mary was a Stewart as was her sister Queen Anne who > succeeded them. the Catholic Stewarts" is a myth...there was only one. > England was Protestant since Henry VIII got the country placed under > Interdict wherein the practice of the Catholic faith was forbidden in > England by the Church itself. ( Yes, Charles I is rumored to have requested > a priest at his death, but he was NOT a Catholic King, just a Catholic dead > man. Pat. > > -----Original Message----- > From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David > Kearney > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 2:02 PM > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com > Cc: David Roberts; kathlingram > Subject: Re: [LDR] Address of loyalty 1689 > > John Polk wrote: >>> I had chance to visit British Public Records Office > (PRO) at Kew several years ago and took the opportunity to look at the > original Address of Loyalty document. It is archived in PRO, not Maryland > Archives, because it was, after all, sent to William and Mary and all the > royal records end up in PRO. If anyone else wishes to see it, it is found in > CO5-718, p.64. (CO refers to Colonial Office). I have a photocopy of it. The > Somerset Address is unfortunately not the actual document signed by the > citizens, but a "true coppy from the original" made by Peter Dent, Deputy > Collector of Customs for Somerset. ... The volume contains all of the > Addresses of Loyalty received from the Maryland counties - Somerset's was > not the only one. Not all of the counties wrote one, although the Associator > government that had seized power from Lord Baltimore in 1689 strongly > encouraged all to do so. William and Mary had just come to the throne in > England, displacing the Catholic ! > Stewarts, and it was their accession that triggered the Protestant faction > in Maryland - the Associators - to stage the bloodless coup which we now > call the Maryland Revolution. <<< > > _____________ > > > > John and All, > > > > I'm enjoying the discussion involving the Address of Loyalty. I'm interested > in how the Address fits into how the different religious groups in colonial > Maryland interacted during the period. In this regard, given Maryland's > Catholic-influenced roots, it's interesting to explore the colonial history > from a somewhat "Catholic-centric" perspective. Of course, as with most > everything, different angles of view exist. > > > > David Roberts, who I've "met" through another rootsweb list, has passed > along some interesting information about the interplay of the different > religions during Maryland's colonial days. David lives in St. Mary's County, > Maryland, and has studied local history for many years. > > > > Despite early Maryland's identification with the Catholic faith of the Lords > Baltimore, David cautions that except for Jesuits in Cecil County - Bohemia > Manor - and a few other spots on the Upper Eastern Shore, there really > wasn't much Catholic presence on the Eastern Shore of Maryland or Delaware > or on Virginia's Eastern Shore during the colonial period. He states that > Catholics were mostly in southern Maryland during the colonial period, > including St. Mary's County; Charles County; Prince George's County; and > Frederick County. All of these counties are on the Western Shore. > Nevertheless, given the Catholic faith of Maryland's proprietors through > much of the 1600s, the possible importance of Catholic influence in all of > Maryland, including the Eastern Shore, shouldn't be overlooked. > > > > Prior to the Revolution, Maryland was one of the few places in English > colonial America with a significant Catholic population. According to David, > some clusters of Catholics also existed in various places in colonial > Pennsylvania. Maryland as a whole in the 1600s reflected a somewhat uniquely > diverse mixture of religious faiths in the English American colonies. > > > > The English Jesuits held huge land-grant "manors" in Maryland through the > 18th century, with David indicating that the four largest were Bohemia on > the Upper Eastern Shore in Cecil County; St. Thomas at Chapel Point, Charles > County; St. Inigoes in lower St. Mary's County (present-day St. Inigoes); > and Newtown at Newtown Neck, near Leonardtown in St. Mary's County. > > > > The Jesuits have held St. Thomas since 1641, under a grant from Lord > Baltimore #2. The church there - St. Ignatius - claims to be the oldest > uninterrupted English-speaking Roman Catholic Church in the United States. > See www.chapelpoint.org. > > > > Under Maryland law the Jesuit Order didn't own the land, but the individual > priests did. When "popery" was outlawed in the 1690s, the priests could > continue on these manors since "Father X" owned the land - not as a priest, > but as a private white male English subject - thus this legal loop-hole > allowed the Roman Church to operate until Religious Freedom was restored in > 1776. Catholic churches were built on this "private" land, with St. Francis > Xavier at Newtown (1731) being the oldest one still standing, according to > David. > > > > David relates that the Jesuits ran mission churches all over Maryland & > preached into northern Virginia and southern Pennsylvania. He explains that > "popery" was illegal in Virginia, but that a Catholic group - the Brent > group - survived in Stafford County, Virginia from the 1640s. The Virginia > government left the Brent group alone because of its wealth & influence. > > > > David understands that some "Methodist migrations" from the Lower Eastern > Shore & the Virginia's Eastern Shore into southern St. Mary's County, > Maryland occurred circa 1820-1860, mostly watermen. He says that St. George > Island UMC on St. George Island (in the Potomac) and First Friendship UMC in > Ridge are both Eastern Shore-based, with the "local" members tending to have > descended from Eastern Shore Methodists, rather than from earlier, "native" > St. Mary's County stock. > > > > One of the groups involved in the 17th Century power plays in Maryland were > Puritans who had been persecuted in Virginia, found welcome refuge in more > tolerant Maryland, and then turned on the Catholic establishment. See, e.g., > Joseph L. Meek Manuscript, members.aol.com/chantery/Articles/JLM_3.htm. > Later, the "Glorious Revolution" in England that resulted in William and > Mary taking the throne, and that was the impetus for the "Address of > Loyalty" from the American subjects (and others?), had the ironic effect of > terminating what had been in Maryland a remarkable degree of religious > freedom and tolerance. > > > > See Let None Dare Call It Liberty: The Catholic Church in Colonial America, > by Marian T. Horvat, Ph.D., > www.traditioninaction.org/History/B_001_Colonies.html, for some very pointed > views: > > > > "The 'Maryland Experiment' began when Charles I issued a generous charter to > a prominent Catholic convert from Anglicanism, Lord Cecil Calvert, for the > American colony of Maryland. In the new colony, religious tolerance for all > so-called Christians was preserved by Calvert until 1654. In that year, > Puritans from Virginia succeeded in overthrowing Calvert's rule, although > Calvert regained control four years later. The last major political uprising > took place in 1689, when the 'Glorious Revolution" of William and Mary > ignited a new anti-Catholic revolt in Maryland, and the rule of the next > Lord Baltimore, Charles Calvert, was overthrown. > > "Therefore, in 1692 Maryland's famous Religious Toleration Act officially > ended, and the Maryland Assembly established the so-called Church of England > as the official State religion supported by tax levies. Restrictions were > imposed on Catholics for public worship, and priests could be prosecuted for > saying Mass. Although Catholics generally maintained their social status, > they were denied the right to vote or otherwise participate in the > government of the colony their ancestors had founded. This barebones history > is the real story of the famous religious liberty of colonial Maryland." > > > > [citation omitted] > > > > For more background, see also Colonial History of Maryland, from Our > Country, Volume 1, > www.publicbookshelf.com/public_html/Our_Country_Vol_1/colonialh_ig.html; > Province of Maryland, > en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Maryland#Maryland_and_the_English_Civil_Wa > r; History of the United States of America, by Henry William Elson, The > MacMillan Company, New York, 1904, chapter IV, pp. 75-83, transcribed by > Kathy Leigh, www.usgennet.org/usa/topic/colonial/book/chap4_2.html; and > Historic St. Mary's City, www.stmaryscity.org/History.html. > > > > I'm interested in the thoughts and other input of list members on the > interactions, both "good" and "bad," of people of different faiths in the > Lower Delmarva during the colonial period and how that might have influenced > our Delmarva ancestors' lives. For instance, does anyone have known > ancestors from the area who renounced their Catholic faith during the 1600s? > > > > Dave K > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? 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This is a bit late due to my squirrel in a cage technology as I sit in NH 40 miles from the Canadian border waiting for a nut to fall and fuel my e-mail provider. Sorry. Ahhh, my favorite spider web...the Maddocks/Maddox/Maddux family. I too am away on vacation and without files. Sooo...I'm talking though my hat here... I have Merril and Bell Maddox in my database as a sort of hip-shove reference. If I have more proof, I'll send them on as soon as I get out of the boonies and get to my Maddox/ux notes. It appears that Bell Maddox and my Lazarus descend from two marriages of Alexander Maddox ( there's about 15 Alexanders... careful). The father of Bell in my working data with me is Thomas Maddox the presumed husband of one Mary Bell. I do not pursue this line so proof is not in the sketchy data with me. Thomas is the son of Alexander and Mary Stevens Maddux. My line of interest is Alexander and second wife Elinor White Bozeman ( later Caine) who's son Lazarus spawns a brood, most of whom leave MD. I do wish to point out that the mid 1780's is marked by the discovery of gold in GA and the passing out of many Rev War soldier grants in GA. I mention GA because I can prove that many of the grandsons of this Maddox line transfer from a Baptist Church in Sussex, DE to founding a Baptist Church in GA... The Powell Creek Baptist Church. Lazarus' son Alexander is claimed by a Powell line as the husband of Elizabeth Powell, I know I have her line at home and a traceable land record... The Maddox line splits here, and the bulk goes on to IL. One skinny string goes to AL...I think. I'm working on it. There is a whole packet of provable MD/DE lines that come to GA in this time period. In addition, there is a Maddox line in GA that comes from NC in the same time period. I have to tell you, this bunch of Madddox/ux is in Bute/Warren Co NC in the 1760's and contains an intermarrying cluster of Bells, Powells, and Riggins of unproved origin. The bulk of this cluster go to KY and TN. One further observation, probably ground you have covered, Merril Maddux's wife was Comfort Coston daughter of Mathias and Elizabeth Riggin Coston. This might source your Riggin land. And, as I poke around in this group, I keep stepping on Tulls. I don't follow Tulls, but I'm just pointing out that if you find Tulls in your land search, you may have hit the right neighborhood. Darren Dodson ( a Maddox researcher, sent the following: 1880 Bells District 817, Cherokee County ( GA) Census. Spelling of first name looks like Waldon in 1880. I find nothing in the 1900 Census, and of course the 1890 Census was destroyed . In the 1910 Decatur, DeKalb Co, GA Census, Walton M. "LATTOX" (34) is listed with wife Sallie (26) and one daughter, Neta (4). Walton is an Insurance Solicitor. In the 1920 Marietta, Cobb Co, GA Census, Walton M. MADDOX (48) is married to Sallie (37). They have a daughter, Neta Bell (14). In 1930 Cobb, Walton MADDOX (56) lives alone with his wife Sallie (46). If this age is correct, then this is consistant with the Waldon on the 1880 Census. Because of the similarity of the names Waldon and Walton, and because of the similarity of age and location, I am assuming that Walton MADDOX, husband of Sallie, and Azalee's brother Waldon are the same person. This Walton Maddux is later than you want, but interesting. I don't agree with Darren's speculations as to the 1700's origins of his Maddox line, but his research is good as far as it goes. Without data I am of little use to you, except to offer a few oddities of possible sources. Patricia -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pam Pearson Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 12:26 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Finding Worcester County Land Records by Property Name Mike, Thank you for the helpful comments. My next step was, as you say, to "sift through" the deeds. I went the KY route several years ago, spending four days at the KY Archives and stopping in Lewis and Mason counties for research. The Bell and Margaret Maddux family is slow to give up its secrets! And unfortunately the KY records from the time period are few and far between. And Richard, Well, consider yourself hugged! I rechecked the online deed index and this is another case where the deed is not indexed under the grantor's name. Maybe it's standard for the MD indexes, but I've encountered 3 index oversights just for this one family grouping. In case anyone else is interested, or just for posterity, here's the story regarding this Maddux-Walston connection: In Dec 1773 Bell Maddux of Somerset Co wrote his will; he mentioned wife Margrit, son Bable, and daughters Cathren, Nancy, Betty, Rachel, Emela and Lanty Billings Sheppard. On 23 Mar 1783, Margaret Maddux and son Zorobable "formerly" of Somerset Co conveyed the lands of Bell Maddux (Ruscomon, Daniels Denn, Conveniency, Cow Quarter) to Merrill Maddux of Somerset Co. (Somerset Co Deed G: 374+) [Zorabable appeared in the 1781 Somerset Co court records for commiting a robbery. Was this their impetus to get out of town?] On 13 Aug 1784, Merrill and Comfort Maddux of Somerset Co conveyed land in Worcester Co (Riggans Addition) to Margaret Maddux. (Worcester Co Deed L: 26-27) [her son Zorabable Maddux was taxed on Riggins Addition in 1783 in Worcester Co] On 27 Oct 1791, Margaret Maddux conveyed "Riggans Addition" to Chares Walston. (Worcester Deed O: 433-434; not in grantor index under Maddux) In Mar 1797 Margaret Maddux of Worcester Co wrote her will; she mentioned daughters Cataron Ruke and Lanty Shepherd, and son-in-law Charles Walston. On 15 Feb 1802, Merrill Maddux of Somerset Co conveyed "Oak Ridge" (contiguous to "Riggans Addition") to Charles Walston. (Worcester Co Deed V: 100) On 7 Jun 1802, Charles and Nancy Walston conveyed "Oak Ridge" to John Powell. (Worcester Co Deed V: 151; deed indexed as "George Walston") On 18 Oct 1805, Charles and Nancy Walston conveyed "Riggans Addition" and "Content" to William Powell Sr. (Worcester Co Deed X: 397-398; not in grantor index under Walston) A Charles Walston, presumably the one from Worcester Co, is enumerated in the 1810 census of Fleming Co, KY; he is then enumerated in the 1820 census for Lewis Co, KY. He purchased land in Lewis Co in 1810, 1811, and 1812. He settled in the same area where Zorabable Maddux, son of Bell and Margaret Maddux, settled in 1794. The Walston surname disappears from Lewis Co in 1830 and starts appearing in Pickaway Co, OH - the same area where Zorabable Maddux and his descendants went to live. . Returning to my original question, Charles Walston definitely had a wife named Nancy from 1802 to 1805. Bell Maddux named daughter Nancy in his will in 1773. Margaret Maddux called Charles her son-in-law in 1797. The evidence certainly suggests (but does not prove) that Nancy Maddux was the wife of Charles Walston. Possibly more evidence will turn up, but I'm not going to hold my breath. Now, who was Merrill Maddux and how was he related to Bell Maddux? Were William and John Powell also related by marriage? A William Powell witnessed Margaret's will, and Charles and Nancy Walston conveyed "Riggans Addition" to a William Powell Sr. Their other property, "Oak Ridge", was conveyed to John Powell . Too many questions, too little time.... *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I misspoke, the Sarah Fisher born to Phillip and Eliz Maddox Fisher would be too old for your Underwood Rencher. Perhaps a grandchild? Pat -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Miller's Choice Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 3:51 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Rawley and Rencher & Underwood I descend from John Rencher (d. 1711) three ways: 1.  daughter Elizabeth (1678-post 1729) m. John Grandee-Roberts 2.  son Thomas Rencher (1687-1772) m. Bridget Shiles 3.  son Underwood Rencher (1692-1750) m. Sarah Fisher   Another son, Samuell Rencher, ancestor of Martha Shroeder of this list, witnessed the will of James Ralley on 12 March 1710/1711 (EB9:1) who had a wife Frances and a number of children, including a son William who sold Ireland Eye to my ancestor John Shores in 1713 which Shores sold to John Nicholson in 1724 (GH:160).  Samuel Rencher signed as next of kin on the inventory of James Royle on 22 March 1710/11 (32B:265).    Ralley and Royle are apparently the same man and is also likely the James Rawley who owned Ireland's Eye which I believe is in or near the community of Sharptown. My question to Martha and anyone else is:  Who is James Rawley and why did Samuel Rencher sign as a next of kin on the inventory of his estate?   There should be a lot of Rencher descendants on this list and I hope someone has looked into the identity of John Rencher's wife, Frances, surname unknown to me.  I'm looking at Rawley for a clue.  I thought perhaps Frances was an Underwood considering a son was named Underwood.  Anthony Underwood owned Little Belean because he married the widow of Robert Ridgely of St. Mary's County (d. 1681), but I don't know anything else about him (and haven't looked thoroughly as yet).   Any help or thoughts welcome.  I'm trying to make a list of specifics I need to look up at the MSA in Annapolis sometime this fall.   Thanks, Becky M *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Becky,I am off your track and annoying, but can you tell us a little about Sarah Fisher? I know that Phillip and Elizabeth Maddox Fisher had a daughter Sarah speculatively sometime in these 1690's. Is Phillip and Eliz's daughter yours, or is Phillip's daughter Sarah the one who married William Grice/Grace? Pat -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Miller's Choice Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 3:51 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Rawley and Rencher & Underwood I descend from John Rencher (d. 1711) three ways: 1.  daughter Elizabeth (1678-post 1729) m. John Grandee-Roberts 2.  son Thomas Rencher (1687-1772) m. Bridget Shiles 3.  son Underwood Rencher (1692-1750) m. Sarah Fisher   Another son, Samuell Rencher, ancestor of Martha Shroeder of this list, witnessed the will of James Ralley on 12 March 1710/1711 (EB9:1) who had a wife Frances and a number of children, including a son William who sold Ireland Eye to my ancestor John Shores in 1713 which Shores sold to John Nicholson in 1724 (GH:160).  Samuel Rencher signed as next of kin on the inventory of James Royle on 22 March 1710/11 (32B:265).    Ralley and Royle are apparently the same man and is also likely the James Rawley who owned Ireland's Eye which I believe is in or near the community of Sharptown. My question to Martha and anyone else is:  Who is James Rawley and why did Samuel Rencher sign as a next of kin on the inventory of his estate?   There should be a lot of Rencher descendants on this list and I hope someone has looked into the identity of John Rencher's wife, Frances, surname unknown to me.  I'm looking at Rawley for a clue.  I thought perhaps Frances was an Underwood considering a son was named Underwood.  Anthony Underwood owned Little Belean because he married the widow of Robert Ridgely of St. Mary's County (d. 1681), but I don't know anything else about him (and haven't looked thoroughly as yet).   Any help or thoughts welcome.  I'm trying to make a list of specifics I need to look up at the MSA in Annapolis sometime this fall.   Thanks, Becky M *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you for this information and all others who were kind enough to send information and to share their experiences with the archives. Hopefully, we will be able to find something to tie our great, great grandfather Samuel Henry Savage to his family in MD. I have exhausted family history, local resources, and on-line resources, with no luck. Sally Savage Rudolph -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Frank Collins Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 12:22 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDR] Maryland State Archives research It is very important that researchers do their homework before visiting the archives. www.mdsa.net is the website for the archives. If you visit the archives, this is the same website you will see to request records. So it is best to know what you want before you visit. Otherwise you will waste a lot of time at the Archives trying to decide what to request. If you are looking for State, County, Municipal records (paper, microfilm, or digital), they can be found at this link. http://guide.mdsa.net/ Click on all the links to see what they have for your county. The records referred to as Transferred indicated archives staff haven't completed the process to fully describe the contents. Due to funding many of these records labelled as Transferred have remained under the Tranferred title for many many years. For each record, the question will remain what type of information is contained in the record and is the record indexed. In some cases you will not know until you request the record an take a look at it (microfilm, digital, or paper). The types of records available will vary somewhat by county. I have tried to take a small snapshot of Dorchester County by providing the contents of certain types of records on my "in progress" East New Market, MD website. www.eastnewmarket.org Click on the links for Tax Records, Court Records, and Probate records for examples of these types of records. I would recommend researching land records online at www.mdlandrec.net and researching Government Acts at http://aomol.net/html/index.html rather than visiting the Archives. Some workers at the archives are volunteers/interns and probably many are underpaid for the valuable work they do. I have found all the people at the help desk to be very helpful, especially Robert Barnes. The staff may sometime appear to be crabby when certain people are making unrealistic demands of them. They are not going to do your research for you. I have found that a smile and thank you goes a long way with the staff at the info desk. Maryland residents should contact their state representatives to request more funding for the archives. Frank *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.17/1655 - Release Date: 9/5/08 7:05 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.17/1655 - Release Date: 9/5/08 7:05 PM

I descend from John Rencher (d. 1711) three ways: 1.  daughter Elizabeth (1678-post 1729) m. John Grandee-Roberts 2.  son Thomas Rencher (1687-1772) m. Bridget Shiles 3.  son Underwood Rencher (1692-1750) m. Sarah Fisher   Another son, Samuell Rencher, ancestor of Martha Shroeder of this list, witnessed the will of James Ralley on 12 March 1710/1711 (EB9:1) who had a wife Frances and a number of children, including a son William who sold Ireland Eye to my ancestor John Shores in 1713 which Shores sold to John Nicholson in 1724 (GH:160).  Samuel Rencher signed as next of kin on the inventory of James Royle on 22 March 1710/11 (32B:265).    Ralley and Royle are apparently the same man and is also likely the James Rawley who owned Ireland's Eye which I believe is in or near the community of Sharptown. My question to Martha and anyone else is:  Who is James Rawley and why did Samuel Rencher sign as a next of kin on the inventory of his estate?   There should be a lot of Rencher descendants on this list and I hope someone has looked into the identity of John Rencher's wife, Frances, surname unknown to me.  I'm looking at Rawley for a clue.  I thought perhaps Frances was an Underwood considering a son was named Underwood.  Anthony Underwood owned Little Belean because he married the widow of Robert Ridgely of St. Mary's County (d. 1681), but I don't know anything else about him (and haven't looked thoroughly as yet).   Any help or thoughts welcome.  I'm trying to make a list of specifics I need to look up at the MSA in Annapolis sometime this fall.   Thanks, Becky M

Hi, all, On the subject of the Maryland Archives. I just have to say that I have always been really satisfied with their service and ability to serve the public. I haven't been back to Maryland in many years, but, wow, what a state. (I lived there for 15 years.) They have done a great job of getting their holdings on line, making them available, and getting to me what I have asked for. I do have a suggestion, if you are having a problem finding some family - I am. The Maryland Historical Society in Baltimore, the Manuscript Collection should be consulted. I have found much there, but I was there in person. Sometimes there just won't be any record of what you need, and it is then that you need to consult these manuscript collections for family records that may not be found anywhere else. I guess everybody has found their way to a very unhelpful archives at one time or another. I certainly found the State Archives at Raleigh, NC to be an awful place to go. Not worth the drive - especially from Indiana. Less than friendly, less than helpful and very condescending - especially when you just don't expect to be treated that way. I have much information I bet they would be really glad to have - but, that's not going to happen. Even people who have their doctorates in NC History told me to be prepared for their attitude, but, I thought, oh, not me, nobody would treat me that way. Think again, oh yes they would and they certainly did. I left really disappointed with the brush off I got, checked out of the Ramada Inn, and went straight down to Greeneville, SC, where the people were great. There was a blond lady who realized what the staff were doing to me with their attitude and tried to be helpful as I decided to leave that place, but the damage was done. I realized she saw the ugliness, but it was just too late. Jeanne //

The Parker Cem on Dagsboro, is off the main road, the path going there, probably just big enough for a small truck,  I was there in May, If I remember correctly, there a shooting range down the road a bit.  Another cousin a few years ago, cleaned it up and fened it in,  In May the weeds were pretty grown, we parked and walked up the road, and the poison ivy back there.  There was a bad storm the night before, we were afraid of getting stuck.   E-mail me and I'll get the address for you.   Anna --- On Thu, 9/4/08, ellen scott <middletongirl@webtv.net> wrote: From: ellen scott <middletongirl@webtv.net> Subject: Re: [LDR] Parker Family Cemetery To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 5:09 PM Jim, Where did he live. There is a Parker Cemetary on Dagsboro Rd. between Parsonsburg and Salisbury Md. There Is also one in Pittsville, Md. -----Original Message----- From: Jljbfox@aol.com Sent: Thursday, September 4, 2008 4:08 PM To: LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDR] Parker Family Cemetery In a 1793 will Anderson Parker states that he wants to be buried in the family cemetery. Does anyone know where this cemetery might be? Thanks, Jim Fox jljbfox@ aol.com **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It is very important that researchers do their homework before visiting the archives. www.mdsa.net is the website for the archives. If you visit the archives, this is the same website you will see to request records. So it is best to know what you want before you visit. Otherwise you will waste a lot of time at the Archives trying to decide what to request. If you are looking for State, County, Municipal records (paper, microfilm, or digital), they can be found at this link. http://guide.mdsa.net/ Click on all the links to see what they have for your county. The records referred to as Transferred indicated archives staff haven't completed the process to fully describe the contents. Due to funding many of these records labelled as Transferred have remained under the Tranferred title for many many years. For each record, the question will remain what type of information is contained in the record and is the record indexed. In some cases you will not know until you request the record an take a look at it (microfilm, digital, or paper). The types of records available will vary somewhat by county. I have tried to take a small snapshot of Dorchester County by providing the contents of certain types of records on my "in progress" East New Market, MD website. www.eastnewmarket.org Click on the links for Tax Records, Court Records, and Probate records for examples of these types of records. I would recommend researching land records online at www.mdlandrec.net and researching Government Acts at http://aomol.net/html/index.html rather than visiting the Archives. Some workers at the archives are volunteers/interns and probably many are underpaid for the valuable work they do. I have found all the people at the help desk to be very helpful, especially Robert Barnes. The staff may sometime appear to be crabby when certain people are making unrealistic demands of them. They are not going to do your research for you. I have found that a smile and thank you goes a long way with the staff at the info desk. Maryland residents should contact their state representatives to request more funding for the archives. Frank

There is absolutely no excuse for a "crabby staff." One way or the other these people have lost sight of the fact that WE are their employer; WE pay their salary be it through city, county, state, or federal funding; they have a job because of US. Sure, they do have a job to do, but that job is mandated through OUR representatives. I'm willing to bet that nowhere exists a statement that says or implies that they will be crabby or rude to anyone, much less the people directly responsible for their very livelihood. This is 2008. The "crabby staff" should be more than aware that there are oodles of people waiting to take their jobs and they might even do better at it than the "crabby staff." Tom Eastern Shore & More http://easternshoremore.com -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Judy Ebner Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 9:20 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Library research <snip> ...crabby staff... <snip>

I've done research in both MD and DE Archives and found the staff in both places to be very helpful.? I was not searched in either place, but both do require you to put bags, etc., in lockers and carry your papers in.? I put pencils, sticky notes, paper clips, etc. in a little Ziploc, and neither place had a problem with that.? It took me a full morning to get comfy with the MD indexing system for their land and probate records.? It isn't very intuitive, but as some have also mentioned, you can get started online.? Be sure to take a sweater.? Both are cold.? But in DE, if you take your sweater off, it has to go into the locker....back of the chair isn't allowed. Happy hunting! Mary Beaulieu Researching: Dehorty/DeHority, Mauzy, Hupp, Douglas, Dobrovolskas, Wychulis in IN, DE, PA, MD, VA, Lithuania

Thank you for these helpful and specific tips.  I'll be glad I read them when I make my own pilgrimage to Annapolis later this year.  I can see the need for all the controls and security in the archives, but I hadn't thought about them, and would probably have shown up with notebooks in a satchel and other items that would have ended up in a locker out of my reach.  A ziplock with sticky notes it will be!   I agree with what others have pointed out about the importance - for your own sake - of doing as much  homework as  possible online before going to the archives, especially if staff time is limited.  Archives can be daunting to even seasoned researchers. Information is so readily available online, certainly the basics, more if one subscribes to Ancestry.com. The archives aren't really the best place for a beginner to start, and if the facilites are short staffed, that only makes the problem worse and could account for (but not excuse) crabby staff.  After thousands of hours of online research, networking and sharing, and exensive public library research (libraries will get books on loan from other libraries if you request them), I still feel a bit daunted and nervous about tackling the MD archives to find the remaining wills, deeds, and other documents that I need to tie down my existing source material. I know what a chore it will be.    Please folks, if you haven't already done everything you can online, don't try to tackle the archives. In addition to Ancestry.com, Rootsweb, and Familysearch.org, there are state and county websites and networking sites like this one and genealogy groups all over the USA. You'll be doing yourself a favor and making your research task so much easier if you know who you're looking for, their dates of birth, death, etc., and have as much information about lineage as you can find online.  You'll be especially glad you took this advice if you are allergic to dust and mold, the happy denizens of archives everywhere.   Happy hunting. --- On Sun, 9/7/08, catbaloo@aol.com <catbaloo@aol.com> wrote: From: catbaloo@aol.com <catbaloo@aol.com> Subject: [LDR] Library research To: LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, September 7, 2008, 6:52 AM I've done research in both MD and DE Archives and found the staff in both places to be very helpful.? I was not searched in either place, but both do require you to put bags, etc., in lockers and carry your papers in.? I put pencils, sticky notes, paper clips, etc. in a little Ziploc, and neither place had a problem with that.? It took me a full morning to get comfy with the MD indexing system for their land and probate records.? It isn't very intuitive, but as some have also mentioned, you can get started online.? Be sure to take a sweater.? Both are cold.? But in DE, if you take your sweater off, it has to go into the locker....back of the chair isn't allowed. Happy hunting! Mary Beaulieu Researching: Dehorty/DeHority, Mauzy, Hupp, Douglas, Dobrovolskas, Wychulis in IN, DE, PA, MD, VA, Lithuania *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

When my husband and I visited both DE and MD this past summer, DE was fantastic and helpful, MD was not helpful at all, the old guy was pretty rude in fact, and wound up telling me that I should start looking on line before I even went there.  Kathy ----- Original Message ---- From: "catbaloo@aol.com" <catbaloo@aol.com> To: LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 7, 2008 6:52:23 AM Subject: [LDR] Library research I've done research in both MD and DE Archives and found the staff in both places to be very helpful.? I was not searched in either place, but both do require you to put bags, etc., in lockers and carry your papers in.? I put pencils, sticky notes, paper clips, etc. in a little Ziploc, and neither place had a problem with that.? It took me a full morning to get comfy with the MD indexing system for their land and probate records.? It isn't very intuitive, but as some have also mentioned, you can get started online.? Be sure to take a sweater.? Both are cold.? But in DE, if you take your sweater off, it has to go into the locker....back of the chair isn't allowed. Happy hunting! Mary Beaulieu Researching: Dehorty/DeHority, Mauzy, Hupp, Douglas, Dobrovolskas, Wychulis in IN, DE, PA, MD, VA, Lithuania *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have never been searched when going to either the Maryland or Delaware Archives...both make you place your belongings in a locker and both will let you bring your laptop and notes into the research room... It has been about a year since I've been to the Md. archives, but the De. archives haven't changed. Gwen -------------- Original message -------------- From: "greatoaks@juno.com" <greatoaks@juno.com> > Don't forget to use the MD archives website before you go. Both for eliminating > time wasted on site, and for organizing your thoughts and notes for your search > on site! The Maryland Historical society also! > You probably can take a laptop into most facilities now. Many of them, like the > MD archives will let you take notes only in pencil, which I find frustrating. I > understand their reasoning, but it is harder write in pencil for a whole day! > Another note about the archives is that they will search your bags and purses, > and they require you to use a locker for most of your possessions. The woman > in front of me was chastised for having a nail file in her purse, and I had a > small pocket knife or something like that on my key chain, and the security > officer was most insulting! Just leave it in the car and take your notes in > with you. > > > > > Donna Clarke Project Linus of Lower DelMarVa > over 2600 blankets given to DelMarVa children in crisis! www.projectlinus.org > > > So...be your name Buxbaum or Bixby or Bray or Mordecai Ali Van Allen O'Shea, > you're off to great places! Today is your day! YOur mountain is waiting..so..get > on your way! Dr Suess > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Don't forget to use the MD archives website before you go. Both for eliminating time wasted on site, and for organizing your thoughts and notes for your search on site! The Maryland Historical society also! You probably can take a laptop into most facilities now. Many of them, like the MD archives will let you take notes only in pencil, which I find frustrating. I understand their reasoning, but it is harder write in pencil for a whole day! Another note about the archives is that they will search your bags and purses, and they require you to use a locker for most of your possessions. The woman in front of me was chastised for having a nail file in her purse, and I had a small pocket knife or something like that on my key chain, and the security officer was most insulting! Just leave it in the car and take your notes in with you. Donna Clarke Project Linus of Lower DelMarVa over 2600 blankets given to DelMarVa children in crisis! www.projectlinus.org So...be your name Buxbaum or Bixby or Bray or Mordecai Ali Van Allen O'Shea, you're off to great places! Today is your day! YOur mountain is waiting..so..get on your way! Dr Suess