Sounds wonderful, but with the group meeting in the middle of the week and during the day, I would not be able to attend either. Charla Helmers Griffith, Carey> From: joslake@sbcglobal.net> To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:24:47 -0700> Subject: Re: [LDR] "Sussex County Cousins"-Special Interest group forming> > Hello Carolyn Miller: Sounds like a useful project, but might be even more > effective for those of us who aren't "local", & are without the background that > provides. Will there be some way for non-residents to be involved in the "give and > take" ?> > Thanks, Joe Lake> > > Subject: [LDR] "Sussex County Cousins"-Special Interest group forming> > > > Hello Fellow Sussex County Researchers!> >>> >> I thought that you might be interested in knowing about a Special Interest> >> Group being organized by the Sussex County Genealogical Society (SCGS) in > >> cooperation with the Laurel (DE) Public> >> Library.> >>> >> The name of this informal group is "Sussex County Cousins" and, as the> >> name implies, it is designed to be a group of family history researchers> >> who have their roots in Sussex County DE.> >>> >> The first get-together will be on Wednesday, September 24 at 1 PM in the> >> Carpenter Community Room of the Laurel Public Library, 101 E. 4th. Street> >> Laurel, DE.> >>> >> The plan is to introduce ourselves and mention the surnames of the main> >> branches of the Sussex County families that you are researching, the area> >> of Sussex County in which they lived. We would also like to know the> >> family surname which you feel most confident (we call them "hits") and> >> the family name you feel the least confident about (we call them "miss's).> >> That way everyone will be familiar where they can be of help to someone or> >> where they can get help with their own brickwall. The library staff will> >> give an overview of the Delaware and Family History collections available> >> at the library. Also, for this meeting, an experienced researcher has> >> offered to bring in his laptop and share his extended database with those> >> interested. He has brand new, never published, still a work in progress,> >> information on cemeteries and the connected families in the Little Creek Hundred > >> and Laurel areas.> >>> >> After the informal meeting everyone is invited to stay and network with> >> their newly discovered "cousins". Also, the library will remain open until> >> 8 PM that day for those wanting to take advantage of the unique> >> genealogical research collections available at the library.> >> >>There is no charge for this get-together!> >> >> Please feel free to contact me with any questions, suggestions or comments> >> you may have concerning this group. My email address is bbde@verizon.net.> >>> >> I am really excited about meeting my unknown "Sussex County Cousins"!> >>> >> Carolyn Elliott Miller> >> Membership Chair of SCGS> >>> > ***************************************> > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING?> > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ:> > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ***************************************> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING?> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ:> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008

Hi Eleanor,   Clues, yes.  Proof, no.  I look at this from time to time and will share these thoughts although nothing is at all conclusive.  Jane could belong to several different families.I theorize that because Elizabeth Nelson (b. 1671) is next of kin to Jane [Fisher-Elzey] and also to Thomas Shiles (d. 1719) and that Richard Crockett's wife was Alice Shiles (b. 1689) -- Elizabeth is the daughter of Thomas Shiles (d. 1676) and Alice is daughter of Thomas and Naomi Shiles (IKL) so perhaps Jane is also a daughter of Thomas Shiles, Sr. although she is not mentioned in the will and Elizabeth is. Could she be Richard Crockett's sister? She is not Naomi's sister, because Naomi is the daughter of John Bozman. Can she also be the Jane Wilson, second wife of Rev. Thomas Wilson, about whom nothing is known but they appear to be on the same tract of land?   The "next of kin" relationships are tricky, as I'm sure you know.  What I consider next of kin and what our forebears deemed nok is not at all similar.  My various theories about Jane's identity could be way off.   Becky M ----- Original Message ---- From: Eleanor Brundick <ebtalbott@verizon.net> To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:06:18 AM Subject: [LDR] Sarah Fisher Becky, Thank you so much for the Sarah Fisher Rencher information.  Do you have any clues as to the identity of her mother - Jane?  This is my mitochondrial DNA line. Eleanor *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

"Sussex County Cousins"-Special Interest group forming Carolyn and Ray, I think this is such a wonderful idea. It will be lots of work, but a labor of love I am sure. I wish I could come join you. However; since I can't would you let me know if there are any Doxey, Dougherty or Conway surnames among the cousins? The spellings could be very creative by the way. Mary S. Browne MD **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

First, re: the will of Alexander Mattocks in 1659, proved 1660. You commented that "from this we concur that Thomas, the son of this Alexander is of legal age ...". Actually, I can't concur with that. Notice the will says "... or until my eldest son shall be of age..." and "... my sons shall be of age at eighteen years old and to be possessed of their estates at that age." The will names Richard Bayly guardian of Thomas, and Arthur Upshur guardian of Alexander. I also said "see note below" wherein Thomas choosing a guardian comes in. I am offering a hodge podge of odds and ends, you were looking for data. Thomas is not my interest. I agree that because of the Bell Maddux folk have assumed Mary was a Bell which is why I included Mark's reference to a marriage which I have never found. There is a Bell/Riggan/Maddox cluster that first appears in Halifax Co NC records simultaneously in the 1750's. This is the only reason I even had Thomas in my data. Pat

Carolyn, Is there any chance that internet cousins can participate someway? I have ancestors and, I'm sure, cousins from and in Sussex County now, who I would love to find. Thanks, Joni -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn & Ray Miller Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 6:58 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Cc: candrmiller@verizon.net Subject: [LDR] "Sussex County Cousins"-Special Interest group forming Hello Fellow Sussex County Researchers! > > I thought that you might be interested in knowing about a Special > Interest Group being organized by the Sussex County Genealogical > Society (SCGS) in cooperation with the Laurel (DE) Public Library. > > The name of this informal group is "Sussex County Cousins" and, as the > name implies, it is designed to be a group of family history > researchers who have their roots in Sussex County DE. > > The first get-together will be on Wednesday, September 24 at 1 PM in > the Carpenter Community Room of the Laurel Public Library, 101 E. 4th. > Street Laurel, DE. > > The plan is to introduce ourselves and mention the surnames of the > main branches of the Sussex County families that you are researching, > the area of Sussex County in which they lived. We would also like to > know the family surname which you feel most confident (we call them > "hits") and the family name you feel the least confident about (we call them "miss's). > That way everyone will be familiar where they can be of help to > someone or where they can get help with their own brickwall. The > library staff will give an overview of the Delaware and Family History > collections available at the library. Also, for this meeting, an > experienced researcher has offered to bring in his laptop and share > his extended database with those interested. He has brand new, never > published, still a work in progress, information on cemeteries and the connected families in the Little Creek Hundred and Laurel areas. > > After the informal meeting everyone is invited to stay and network > with their newly discovered "cousins". Also, the library will remain > open until > 8 PM that day for those wanting to take advantage of the unique > genealogical research collections available at the library. >There is no charge for this get-together! > Please feel free to contact me with any questions, suggestions or > comments you may have concerning this group. My email address is bbde@verizon.net. > > I am really excited about meeting my unknown "Sussex County Cousins"! > > Carolyn Elliott Miller > Membership Chair of SCGS > *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am now living in Florida, leaving real cousins (and the more I talk with them, the more cousins we discover we have! Including my mothers family and my father's family - intermarried several times from the 1600s on...) How can we add names to this group? Linda Dodd Goslee Cassidy (Burton, Flowers, Short, Townsend, Adylotte, Langford/Lankford, Quillen, Kirkbride, Fookes, Patterson,and yes, Bonaparte!) In a message dated 9/13/2008 3:08:40 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lower-delmarva-roots-request@rootsweb.com writes: LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Administrivia For information about the Lower Delmarva Roots Mailing List, including list guidelines and instructions for unsubscribing and subscribing, see the LDRoots FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm Today's Topics: 1. "Sussex County Cousins"-Special Interest group forming (Carolyn & Ray Miller) 2. Re: "Sussex County Cousins"-Special Interest group forming (joslake@sbcglobal.net) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:58:08 -0400 From: "Carolyn & Ray Miller" <candrmiller@verizon.net> Subject: [LDR] "Sussex County Cousins"-Special Interest group forming To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Cc: candrmiller@verizon.net Message-ID: <001601c9153b$cac4d200$2f01a8c0@rayfdab7e0db48> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello Fellow Sussex County Researchers! > > I thought that you might be interested in knowing about a Special Interest > Group being organized by the Sussex County Genealogical Society (SCGS) in cooperation with the Laurel (DE) Public > Library. > > The name of this informal group is "Sussex County Cousins" and, as the > name implies, it is designed to be a group of family history researchers > who have their roots in Sussex County DE. > > The first get-together will be on Wednesday, September 24 at 1 PM in the > Carpenter Community Room of the Laurel Public Library, 101 E. 4th. Street > Laurel, DE. > > The plan is to introduce ourselves and mention the surnames of the main > branches of the Sussex County families that you are researching, the area > of Sussex County in which they lived. We would also like to know the > family surname which you feel most confident (we call them "hits") and > the family name you feel the least confident about (we call them "miss's). > That way everyone will be familiar where they can be of help to someone or > where they can get help with their own brickwall. The library staff will > give an overview of the Delaware and Family History collections available > at the library. Also, for this meeting, an experienced researcher has > offered to bring in his laptop and share his extended database with those > interested. He has brand new, never published, still a work in progress, > information on cemeteries and the connected families in the Little Creek Hundred and Laurel areas. > > After the informal meeting everyone is invited to stay and network with > their newly discovered "cousins". Also, the library will remain open until > 8 PM that day for those wanting to take advantage of the unique > genealogical research collections available at the library. >There is no charge for this get-together! > Please feel free to contact me with any questions, suggestions or comments > you may have concerning this group. My email address is bbde@verizon.net. > > I am really excited about meeting my unknown "Sussex County Cousins"! > > Carolyn Elliott Miller > Membership Chair of SCGS > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:24:47 -0700 From: <joslake@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [LDR] "Sussex County Cousins"-Special Interest group forming To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000601c91561$0a6063f0$936e8047@D9WXC981> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hello Carolyn Miller: Sounds like a useful project, but might be even more effective for those of us who aren't "local", & are without the background that provides. Will there be some way for non-residents to be involved in the "give and take" ? Thanks, Joe Lake Subject: [LDR] "Sussex County Cousins"-Special Interest group forming > Hello Fellow Sussex County Researchers! >> >> I thought that you might be interested in knowing about a Special Interest >> Group being organized by the Sussex County Genealogical Society (SCGS) in >> cooperation with the Laurel (DE) Public >> Library. >> >> The name of this informal group is "Sussex County Cousins" and, as the >> name implies, it is designed to be a group of family history researchers >> who have their roots in Sussex County DE. >> >> The first get-together will be on Wednesday, September 24 at 1 PM in the >> Carpenter Community Room of the Laurel Public Library, 101 E. 4th. Street >> Laurel, DE. >> >> The plan is to introduce ourselves and mention the surnames of the main >> branches of the Sussex County families that you are researching, the area >> of Sussex County in which they lived. We would also like to know the >> family surname which you feel most confident (we call them "hits") and >> the family name you feel the least confident about (we call them "miss's). >> That way everyone will be familiar where they can be of help to someone or >> where they can get help with their own brickwall. The library staff will >> give an overview of the Delaware and Family History collections available >> at the library. Also, for this meeting, an experienced researcher has >> offered to bring in his laptop and share his extended database with those >> interested. He has brand new, never published, still a work in progress, >> information on cemeteries and the connected families in the Little Creek Hundred >> and Laurel areas. >> >> After the informal meeting everyone is invited to stay and network with >> their newly discovered "cousins". Also, the library will remain open until >> 8 PM that day for those wanting to take advantage of the unique >> genealogical research collections available at the library. > >>There is no charge for this get-together! > >> Please feel free to contact me with any questions, suggestions or comments >> you may have concerning this group. My email address is bbde@verizon.net. >> >> I am really excited about meeting my unknown "Sussex County Cousins"! >> >> Carolyn Elliott Miller >> Membership Chair of SCGS >> > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS list administrator, send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-admin@rootsweb.com. 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This should be a very interesting gathering. I live out of state I cannot attend, and am sure many other interested parties are in the same situation well. It would be great if a Family list & contact list could be shared with this group after the meeting. If anyone is willing to share the names of those like me who cannot attend and their families, please add me to that list. Note too, I have been in the Laurel Library, and found it to be a very nice facility, with a very good genealogy collection, and a very helpful staff. Grady Ellis, Ellis & Waller families, from the SW corner of Little Creek/DE and surrounding MD area. Thanks, Grady Ellis Ellis10520@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn & Ray Miller Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 8:58 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Cc: candrmiller@verizon.net Subject: [LDR] "Sussex County Cousins"-Special Interest group forming Hello Fellow Sussex County Researchers! > > I thought that you might be interested in knowing about a Special Interest > Group being organized by the Sussex County Genealogical Society (SCGS) in cooperation with the Laurel (DE) Public > Library. > > The name of this informal group is "Sussex County Cousins" and, as the > name implies, it is designed to be a group of family history researchers > who have their roots in Sussex County DE. > > The first get-together will be on Wednesday, September 24 at 1 PM in the > Carpenter Community Room of the Laurel Public Library, 101 E. 4th. Street > Laurel, DE. > > The plan is to introduce ourselves and mention the surnames of the main > branches of the Sussex County families that you are researching, the area > of Sussex County in which they lived. We would also like to know the > family surname which you feel most confident (we call them "hits") and > the family name you feel the least confident about (we call them "miss's). > That way everyone will be familiar where they can be of help to someone or > where they can get help with their own brickwall. The library staff will > give an overview of the Delaware and Family History collections available > at the library. Also, for this meeting, an experienced researcher has > offered to bring in his laptop and share his extended database with those > interested. He has brand new, never published, still a work in progress, > information on cemeteries and the connected families in the Little Creek Hundred and Laurel areas. > > After the informal meeting everyone is invited to stay and network with > their newly discovered "cousins". Also, the library will remain open until > 8 PM that day for those wanting to take advantage of the unique > genealogical research collections available at the library. >There is no charge for this get-together! > Please feel free to contact me with any questions, suggestions or comments > you may have concerning this group. My email address is bbde@verizon.net. > > I am really excited about meeting my unknown "Sussex County Cousins"! > > Carolyn Elliott Miller > Membership Chair of SCGS > *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I had this same experience. A distant cousin took a marriage "I give permission for my son to marry" slip written by our great great grandfather from an Alabama courthouse.?? These?rural courthouses?still don't pay much attention to what people are doing with the records they browse. ??? -----Original Message----- From: Johnlyon0@cs.com To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:32 am Subject: [LDR] Archival Security Then there are the stupid. I once went into an Alabama courthouse to seek an estate record; it was gone, its folder empty. Some years later I was directed to a party in South Carolina who was supposedly knowledgable. He admitted happily that he had the very record I needed; he had been to the courthouse, found the record, and just took it. After all, it was his grampa! He literally could not grasp that he'd stolen anything. He found it and it was his, dagnabit. John ***************************************

Hello Carolyn Miller: Sounds like a useful project, but might be even more effective for those of us who aren't "local", & are without the background that provides. Will there be some way for non-residents to be involved in the "give and take" ? Thanks, Joe Lake Subject: [LDR] "Sussex County Cousins"-Special Interest group forming > Hello Fellow Sussex County Researchers! >> >> I thought that you might be interested in knowing about a Special Interest >> Group being organized by the Sussex County Genealogical Society (SCGS) in >> cooperation with the Laurel (DE) Public >> Library. >> >> The name of this informal group is "Sussex County Cousins" and, as the >> name implies, it is designed to be a group of family history researchers >> who have their roots in Sussex County DE. >> >> The first get-together will be on Wednesday, September 24 at 1 PM in the >> Carpenter Community Room of the Laurel Public Library, 101 E. 4th. Street >> Laurel, DE. >> >> The plan is to introduce ourselves and mention the surnames of the main >> branches of the Sussex County families that you are researching, the area >> of Sussex County in which they lived. We would also like to know the >> family surname which you feel most confident (we call them "hits") and >> the family name you feel the least confident about (we call them "miss's). >> That way everyone will be familiar where they can be of help to someone or >> where they can get help with their own brickwall. The library staff will >> give an overview of the Delaware and Family History collections available >> at the library. Also, for this meeting, an experienced researcher has >> offered to bring in his laptop and share his extended database with those >> interested. He has brand new, never published, still a work in progress, >> information on cemeteries and the connected families in the Little Creek Hundred >> and Laurel areas. >> >> After the informal meeting everyone is invited to stay and network with >> their newly discovered "cousins". Also, the library will remain open until >> 8 PM that day for those wanting to take advantage of the unique >> genealogical research collections available at the library. > >>There is no charge for this get-together! > >> Please feel free to contact me with any questions, suggestions or comments >> you may have concerning this group. My email address is bbde@verizon.net. >> >> I am really excited about meeting my unknown "Sussex County Cousins"! >> >> Carolyn Elliott Miller >> Membership Chair of SCGS >> > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Patricia, Thank you for your comments. Once again, I'm going to push back. Nothing personal, of course - I just want to get this lineage correct. It's good having a sounding board. I have constructed this lineage based on my own research, trying hard to avoid what's floating around on the internet. So I readily admit that I may have made mistakes. First, re: the will of Alexander Mattocks in 1659, proved 1660. You commented that "from this we concur that Thomas, the son of this Alexander is of legal age ...". Actually, I can't concur with that. Notice the will says "... or until my eldest son shall be of age..." and "... my sons shall be of age at eighteen years old and to be possessed of their estates at that age." The will names Richard Bayly guardian of Thomas, and Arthur Upshur guardian of Alexander. Regarding Alexander's son Thomas: 10 Nov 1663, Thomas Maddox, eldest son of Alexander Maddox, chose Edmund Bowman as his guardian. (Your entry from Ghotes, which I didn't have, but it fits with the following entries.) Presumably Thomas had reached an age when he could chose his own guardian. 26 Oct 1668: Thomas Mattocks petitioned the court for his freedom, claiming he was 18 years old. (Accomack Co VA Court Order Abstracts, 1666-1670, p. 63b) 26 Oct 1668: Tho. Teackle certified in court that Thomas Mattocks, son of Alexander and Elizabeth Mattocks, was baptized in the latter part of the summer of 1651, when he was under two months old. (Accomack Co VA Court Order Abstracts, 1666-1670, p. 64a) 24 Nov 1669: John Stokely and Alex. Addison were sued by Edm. Bowman, guardian of Thomas Mattox. (Accomack Co VA Court Order Abstract, 1666-1670, p. 160). 26 Jan 1669/70: Thomas Mattocks, having attained lawful age, petitioned the court for the land in possession of Henry White. (Accomack Co VA Court Order Abstracts, 1666-1670, p. 171) This Thomas Maddux was born, therefore, about 1651, and not likely to be the father of Bell Maddux, b. c1715. I think, but can't say for sure, that this Thomas Maddox is the one who left a will in 1713 in Northampton Co. He apparently married (1) the widow of William Smith, (2) Sarah Michael, previously married to Argoll Yardley and James Watt, and (3) Rebecca, who was named in his will. Regarding Alexander's son, Alexander: 16 Sep 1660: Mary Bell, dau of Thomas and Mary Bell, was baptized at Hungar's Parish, Northampton Co, VA. (This make her much too old to be the mother of Bell Maddux, b. c1715.) 1671: Allexr Maddox was listed as a tithable in the household of Arthur Upshot (his guardian) in Northampton Co, VA. 1677: Alexander Maddox registered his cattle mark in Somerset Co. 1678: Thomas Bell of Northampton Co writes will mentioning daughter Mary Maddux. 2 Jan 1679: Thomas Madox son of Allexander and Mary Madox born at Pocomoke, Somerset Co. 4 Apr 1696: Alexander Maddux and wife Mary conveyed part of "Newtown" (which Alexander purchased in 1695) to John Perkins. (Somerset Co Deed L1: 340-342) 7 Oct 1710: Alexander Maddux of Somerset Co purchased 100 a. "Lindsay's Green." 1717: Alexander Maddux of Somerset Co willed 225 acres to wife Mary, and subsequently to son Lazarus. His other sons, including Thomas, received 12 pence each Alexander's son, Thomas Maddux, who was born 2 Jan 1679, and whose estate was probated in 1736 in Somerset Co, left land to son Bell Maddux "with exception of piece of marsh known as "Linsey's Green." This is surely the 100 a. purchased by Alexander Maddux in 1710. I'm not sure how it was conveyed to son Thomas. This Thomas mentions wife Mary in his will, but I haven't found anything to suggest she was named Mary Bell. I tend to think others have just assumed Thomas married Mary Bell, having named his first son Bell Maddux. My best guess, however, is that the name originates with Thomas' mother. Your turn, Pam

Hello Fellow Sussex County Researchers! > > I thought that you might be interested in knowing about a Special Interest > Group being organized by the Sussex County Genealogical Society (SCGS) in cooperation with the Laurel (DE) Public > Library. > > The name of this informal group is "Sussex County Cousins" and, as the > name implies, it is designed to be a group of family history researchers > who have their roots in Sussex County DE. > > The first get-together will be on Wednesday, September 24 at 1 PM in the > Carpenter Community Room of the Laurel Public Library, 101 E. 4th. Street > Laurel, DE. > > The plan is to introduce ourselves and mention the surnames of the main > branches of the Sussex County families that you are researching, the area > of Sussex County in which they lived. We would also like to know the > family surname which you feel most confident (we call them "hits") and > the family name you feel the least confident about (we call them "miss's). > That way everyone will be familiar where they can be of help to someone or > where they can get help with their own brickwall. The library staff will > give an overview of the Delaware and Family History collections available > at the library. Also, for this meeting, an experienced researcher has > offered to bring in his laptop and share his extended database with those > interested. He has brand new, never published, still a work in progress, > information on cemeteries and the connected families in the Little Creek Hundred and Laurel areas. > > After the informal meeting everyone is invited to stay and network with > their newly discovered "cousins". Also, the library will remain open until > 8 PM that day for those wanting to take advantage of the unique > genealogical research collections available at the library. >There is no charge for this get-together! > Please feel free to contact me with any questions, suggestions or comments > you may have concerning this group. My email address is bbde@verizon.net. > > I am really excited about meeting my unknown "Sussex County Cousins"! > > Carolyn Elliott Miller > Membership Chair of SCGS >

Pam wrote: My research suggests that Thomas Maddux (1679-c1736) was the son of Alexander Maddux (c1655-c1717) and his wife Mary. Maryland Eastern Shore Vital Records, Book 1: 131, notes that Thomas Madox, son of Allexander and Mary Madox, was born at Pocomoke 2 Jan 1679. Mary was possibly Mary Bell, daughter of Thomas Bell (c1618-c1678). Thomas Bell left a will mentioning his daughter Mary Maddux. This Mary Bell would have been too old to be the wife of Thomas Maddux. Perhaps there were two Mary Bells, but I personally have no proof of that. My research suggests that Alexander Maddux (c1655-c1717) was the son of Alexander Maddux (c1613-c1660). I have only found one reference to a wife other than Eleanor. The Accomack Co, VA Court Order Abstracts (1666-1670, p. 64a) contains an entry where Tho. Teackle certified in 1668 that Thomas Mattocks, son of Alexander and Elizabeth Mattocks, was baptized in 1651. Unless Alexander had a third wife, it seems more likely that this Elizabeth was the mother of Alexander (c1655-c1717)." Pat answered: I have 2 and possibly 3 wives for Alex...xxx, Elizabeth, Elinor. The XXX looks iffy to me, as though someone just wanted to hitch a loose Maddux somewhere. This is cobbled from a bevy of sources...I will not exhaust the patience of the list with 80 pages of Maddux data. In Side-Lights on Maryland History with Sketches of Early Maryland Families Vol 2 Author: Hester Dorsey Richardson we have: The will of Alexander Mattocks, of Northampton County, Virginia, was found in Book 7, p. 64, Northampton County, Virginia, Records, as follows: Alexander Mattocks, of Northampton County: Will dated January 10, 1659, proved February 28, 1659. Witnesses: Nicholas Lawrence, Richard Teage. Devises as follows: "To my lawful wife Elinor Mattocks the third part of all my whole estate of moveable goods and two thirds of all my land during her widowhood or until my eldest son shall be of age-and for ye residue of my goods, cattle and chattels are to be equally divided amongst my children, viz.: Thomas Mattocks my eldest son, Alexander Mattocks, my second son, Lazarus Mattocks, my third son, and Elizabeth Fisher, wife unto Philip Fisher, my eldest daughter, and that part that shall fall to Elizabeth Fisher of my estate by proportion I do give unto her, and if she shall die without issue then the property to be returned to be equally divided among my other children-- also my daughter Ann Mattocks, my second daughter. "To my sons Thomas Mattocks and Alexander Mattocks the plantation I now live upon containing 300 acres and ye half moiety of one patent containing 516 acres that is betwixt me and James Jones. "I appoint my beloved wife guardian to my son Lazarus and to have his estate in her possession as one having most right unto him. "I appoint and it is my will that my sons shall be of age at eighteen years old and to be possessed of their estates at that age." Son Thomas Mattocks sole executor. Richard Bayly and Arthur Upshur overseers of the Will. (signed) "Alexander Mattocks" Okay, from this we concur that Thomas , the son of this Alexander Maddux/ox/ucks is of legal age to be his father's exec. ( see note below)And if she is the one with the most rights to have him we can assume he is hers.) When this Alex Maddux died, his widow Elinor White Maddux married William Boseman and took her stepson Alex Maddux Jr, her son Lazarus Maddux, and a possible but unconfirmed and unnamed daughter to Somerset MD. The remaining Maddux children appear to have stayed in VA. (This is from one of the Md Calendar of Wills vol ? can't read...will look up.) Bosman, William, -- -- --; 5th Aug., 1665. To wife Ellinor, execx., dower rights. To sons John, William, and George, land; to be of age at 17 yrs. To daus. Catharine, Bridgett, Ann, and Mary, personalty. Overseers:Capt. Wm. Thorne and Thos. Bloyse. Test: Roger Woolford, Thom. Clarke. Thos. Walley. 1. 228. >From Keddie and Keddie we get: SOMERSET COUNTY, MARYLAND WILLS EB #5 1675-1710 Page 2 Folio 131 ELENOR CAIN, widow 05/29/1692 07/03/1695 Bequeaths to: 1. Lazarus Maddux --son -wearing apparel both linen and woolen -named executor of estate. 2. Blandina Bozman --cousin -remainder of estate. Witnesses: Charles Hall, Sr. Marsey Fountain Charles Hall, Jr. John Turpin Then came: Marsey Fountain Addendum: Then came Blandina Bozman and states "Whereas my Aunt Eleoner Cain . . . bequeathed to me two gowns 2 petecoats 3 shifts and other head --- being all her the said Eleoner's wearing clothes both Linen & Woolens, Now know that I the Blandina Bozman" aquit the items mentioned. Note, there was no commonly used term for stepmother in this period. Somerset County Wills, Liber E B No. 9, folio 62; Lazarus Maddox, of Somerset County; Will dated January 18, 1716, proved March 19, 1715. Witnesses: Francis Lord, James Wills, Wm. Henderson, Marcy Fountaine. Testator devises as follows: "To my three sons Thomas Maddox, Lazarus Maddox and Daniel Maddox all my land on the south side of Manokin River, containing 900 acres to be divided between them. "To my sons Alexander Maddox and William Maddox land called Whitefield containing 700 acres. "To my loving wife my dwelling plantation during her widowhood, two negroes, beds, furniture, etc., one silver tankard and silver spoons. "To son Thomas Maddox, one negro, some silver spoons and other personalty. "To son Lazarus Maddox, a negro boy and other personalty. "To son Alexander Maddox, a negro boy and personalty. "To son Daniel Maddox, a negro and furniture. "To son William Maddox, a negro boy and furniture. "To daughter Mary, a negro. "To daughter Sarah, a negro. "To daughter Eleanor, a negro. "To daughter Elizabeth, the offspring of a certain negro woman when it is born. To each of his daughters a silver spoon. Liber E B No. 14, Somerset County Administration Accounts, p. 479 (in 1717), gives the inventory of the goods and chattels of Lazarus Maddox, late of Somerset County deceased. Among the many items we note the following: 1 silver tankard; 12 silver spoons; 11 negroes, several chests of drawers; 12 Russia leather chairs; one oval table; one chafing dish; 83 pounds pewter ware; several brass kettles. Somerset County Administration Accounts, Old Book, 1685 to 1723, Account of Sarah Maddox (widow), wife of Lazarus Maddox, late of Somerset County, deceased. Date, 1717. Children of the deceased mentioned as follows: Daughters Sarah, wife of Thomas Walker; Mary, wife of John Cottman; Ellenor, wife of Robert Scott; sons, Lazarus, William, Daniel and Alexander Maddox. Note the property named Whitefield. Perhaps John could tell us if this was a legacy from Lewis White to his daughter Eleanor or her son? For Thomas, I have the following from fellow researcher Mark Maddux: Will of Thomas Maddux, from the Maryland Calendar of Wills, will made March 3, 1735, proved April 20, 1736. Wife Mary and children Bell (or Sell or Bill), Alexander, Thomas Margaret, and Sarah. Wills of Anapolis, Maryland. Liber. 21, page 475, 596. Owned 1500 acres of land in Northampton Co, VA. Per Book 1500 Maddox Marriages: Thomas' wife was Mary Bell Title: Maddox Author: Myriam Allard 621 W. 23rd Ave Covington, LA 70433 Publication: Not Published Page: p.7 Text: Thomas Maddux, was born January 1684. He died 1736 in Somerset County, Maryland. From the Maryland Calendar of Wills, Janed Baldwin and Maddocks, Maddox, Maddux, Thomas, Somerset Co. Will made March 3, 1735, proves April 20, 1736. Wife, Mary; sons, Bell Alexander, Thomas; daughters Margaret and Sarah, Witness. John Riggin, Sr. John Outten, and Samuel Addams. Regarding the rest of Alexander's sons...I have little except son Alexander who receives half of Whitefield in his father's will. This Alexander died between 1763 and 1768 in Somerset Co., MD, leaves 10 children, 4 sons of which sell their share of Whitefied to their brother in law Benjamin Hearn and head out for Georgia. A whole pack of MD folk go with them. Just who went where is my quest of the last 30 years...give or take a decade. There are land records, taxes and a pack of stuff much of which others on this list are a lot more solid with than I am. Surely, your Thomas's father left him some land with a traceable name. On a disturbing note, I have to tell you...this below bothers me, there must be 2 nearly concurrent Thomas's ( NOT yours) as he cannot be of age in 1658 and a minor in 1663.: >From the Ghotes site we learn: In the Court of 10 November 1663, Thomas Maddox, the eldest son of Alexander Maddox, chose Edmund Bowman as his guardian. Hope this adds something, Pat

Makes one wonder about Ancestry's effort to produce sound documents, doesn't it? Pat -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dave & Jane Kearney Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 10:39 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDR] Archives Protection >> However, a cheaper way to go than all of the lockers would be a lifesize picture of the crucifixion of the last person who marred a book. >> Jay _________________ Jay, Maybe, but for some reason I've tended to look at symbols of crucifixion as leading to the good kind of veneration. I doubt if that's what you intend. :-) I've wondered sometimes about the occasional census sheet reproduced by ancestry.com (or whoever) in which the original print document obviously has been "corrected" or otherwise overwritten. I suppose these changes sometimes might reflect some semi-official (if misguided) correction by the enumerator or someone else in a position of authority during the period of time in which the census was conducted. My guess is, though, that some, if not most of the changes probably reflect someone's later visit to the repository where the print document was/is kept and an unauthorized marking on the original. I imagine in such cases the person doing the marking thought they were helping out posterity by making what they thought were corrections, clarifications, or expansions of information on the sheet, but it sure creates havoc in determining how to interpret the "information" on the sheet and how to cite it, and oftentimes makes just reading the information on the sheet much more difficult or next to impossible. Dave K *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Excellent synopsis of this issue, John... Best Regards, Mike Hitch "So oftentimes it happens that we live our lives in chains and we never even know we have the key." -Eagles |-----Original Message----- |From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com |[mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf |Of Johnlyon0@cs.com |Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 11:33 AM |To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com |Subject: [LDR] Archival Security | |It's a chronic problem, and always has been. There are |notorious stories of even "respected" or "trusted" parties |who've walked off deliberately with important original |materials, for their own purposes. The National Archives |experienced a major theft of original Abraham Lincoln |materials in the not-too-distant past, with the stuff ending |up sold at auction, the perpetrator brought to justice. |Another well-known MD case involved an individual many of you |would recognize from his publications, sometimes quoted on |this list, who habitually added to his private collections |(many years ago). e-Bay is a well-used outlet for such |pilferage nowadays. | |Archival facilities also have to protect against just plain |accidental thefts: patrons who bundle up their belongings on |the way out the door, and inadvertently take an original |document or a book that they've accessed. This is why there |are limitations on what one can take in. | |Then there are the stupid. I once went into an Alabama |courthouse to seek an estate record; it was gone, its folder |empty. Some years later I was directed to a party in South |Carolina who was supposedly knowledgable. He admitted happily |that he had the very record I needed; he had been to the |courthouse, found the record, and just took it. After all, it |was his grampa! He literally could not grasp that he'd stolen |anything. He found it and it was his, dagnabit. | | |John |*************************************** |QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? |Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: |http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm |------------------------------- |To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to |LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word |'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body |of the message |

"Dave & Jane Kearney" <kearneyd@erols.com> wrote: >I imagine in such cases the person doing the marking thought they were helping out posterity by making what they thought were corrections, clarifications, or expansions of information on the sheet I'm aware of a case in which zealous local historians went through the original records in their county and used eradicator fluid to eliminate the word "Negro" wherever they found it. The road to hell, paved with weirdly good intentions. John

It's a chronic problem, and always has been. There are notorious stories of even "respected" or "trusted" parties who've walked off deliberately with important original materials, for their own purposes. The National Archives experienced a major theft of original Abraham Lincoln materials in the not-too-distant past, with the stuff ending up sold at auction, the perpetrator brought to justice. Another well-known MD case involved an individual many of you would recognize from his publications, sometimes quoted on this list, who habitually added to his private collections (many years ago). e-Bay is a well-used outlet for such pilferage nowadays. Archival facilities also have to protect against just plain accidental thefts: patrons who bundle up their belongings on the way out the door, and inadvertently take an original document or a book that they've accessed. This is why there are limitations on what one can take in. Then there are the stupid. I once went into an Alabama courthouse to seek an estate record; it was gone, its folder empty. Some years later I was directed to a party in South Carolina who was supposedly knowledgable. He admitted happily that he had the very record I needed; he had been to the courthouse, found the record, and just took it. After all, it was his grampa! He literally could not grasp that he'd stolen anything. He found it and it was his, dagnabit. John

>> However, a cheaper way to go than all of the lockers would be a lifesize picture of the crucifixion of the last person who marred a book. >> Jay _________________ Jay, Maybe, but for some reason I've tended to look at symbols of crucifixion as leading to the good kind of veneration. I doubt if that's what you intend. :-) I've wondered sometimes about the occasional census sheet reproduced by ancestry.com (or whoever) in which the original print document obviously has been "corrected" or otherwise overwritten. I suppose these changes sometimes might reflect some semi-official (if misguided) correction by the enumerator or someone else in a position of authority during the period of time in which the census was conducted. My guess is, though, that some, if not most of the changes probably reflect someone's later visit to the repository where the print document was/is kept and an unauthorized marking on the original. I imagine in such cases the person doing the marking thought they were helping out posterity by making what they thought were corrections, clarifications, or expansions of information on the sheet, but it sure creates havoc in determining how to interpret the "information" on the sheet and how to cite it, and oftentimes makes just reading the information on the sheet much more difficult or next to impossible. Dave K

I have recently started working on the Robert Watson (died abt. 1703) family of Accomac. I have two questions that hopefully someone might have researced previously. 1. Was this Robert Watson the progenitor of the Accomack Watsons 2. He apparently owned land throughout the area but the majority of his estate was "near the road to (present day) Pungoteaque" on the Great Otterdams Branch with his plantation located on Cross or Pratt's Branch. Does anyone know the modern names and location of these bodies of water? Thanks. Jimmy

John Lyon, Thank you for the early Somerset County information. That was very helpful. Eleanor

I love this response! I have sat here laughing and laughing and then, all of a sudden, I think you are right! Jeanne Thompson Jay wrote: > Ruth, > However, a cheaper way to go than all of the lockers would be a lifesize picture of the crucifixion of the last person who marred a book. > Jay > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Ruth <elmag@netamumail.com> > To: LowER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 2:49:43 AM > Subject: [LDR] Libraries and need for lockers, Smith & Baker BroadCreekHundred, Sx, DE > > Libraries are simply trying to protect their resources when they don't allow you pens, bags, etc. A good 30 years ago libraries were > having trouble with people razor-blading pages from reference books, etc. Some think nothing of marking them up with pen, often obscuring entries others can no longer read. Even the LDS library in Santa Monica does this---and the reason > is because people also....um.....STEAL materials. Objectionable? > Not if you look at it properly (and fairly!) > > Pencil is a pain; slow and easily smears, etc. Some libraries will > allow a lap-top, and by all means, take a supply of copy money > with you---their petty cash often won't support many people > asking for it, so their only source of coin replenishment is to > ....rob the pop machine....er...copy machine! > > Anyone can have an off day now and then; all of us do. But consistently rude or impatient staff should be dealt with by > the administration. (So, btw, should consistently rude and > disagreeable patrons!) If it's a volunteer, there are likely policies > in place, and volunteers are just that. Please, thank you, if you > have time, etc are all phrases becoming less well used---it > behooves us to remember to use them, along with patience and > an agreeable tone of voice! A little politeness and appreciation can do a lot for everyone, including ourselves! > > Now. Anyone have Bakers or Smiths from Sussex Co, De in the > mid & late 1700s, Broad Creek Hundred? Thanks! Ruth > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >