Thanks for the reply. I've e-mailed them (DE Arch) to see if they have a printed guide (hopefully). Joe > > I was referring to the library collections of the historical societies, as > well as DAR and LOC, with respect to having their catalogs on line, not the > primary document collections of MD and DE Archives. The MD Archives also > has their library collection on line so you can access that. I have not > tried to use the DE Archives website except in very cursory way so can't > give you much advice about how to use it. > > Sorry - > > JP > > > > - > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <joslake@sbcglobal.net> > To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 5:42 PM > Subject: Re: [LDR] MD STATE ARCHIVES > > >> John Polk: You comment below that all of the named institutions have on > line >> catalogs, except The Nabb. >> >> My search (good or bad) indicates that the DE Archives in Dover have some > individual >> categories on line, such as their probate records, but no comprehensive > catalog of >> their complete holdings. >> >> If I'm wrong about that, could you please send me the correct URL to > access their >> catalog? When I go online to the DE Archives, I always start at >> http://archives.delaware.gov >> >> Thanks, Joe Lake >> >> >> > The return on your time investment at either of these places is very >> > dependent on your preparation before arrival. The archives are mostly >> > repositories of original materials and it really helps to know exactly > what >> > you are looking for so you are not wasting all your time ordering and >> > waiting for the staff to retrieve materials that don't help. I think > they >> > both allow you to have three items (i.e. original documents, not > microfilms) >> > at a time - if you are looking at these, it is important to submit your > next >> > order slip as soon as you return an item, so that you are not sitting > idly >> > at the the table waiting for something to come back from the stacks. >> > >> > Depending on how far you have progressed in your research you may want > to >> > consider going to the the DAR Library, the Library of Congress, the >> > Maryland Historical Society (Baltimore), the Historical Society of >> > Pennsylvania (Philadelphia) or the Historical Society of Delaware >> > (Wilmington), and of course the Nabb center. All of these places have >> > excellent collections of published county and family histories in which > the >> > work of previous researchers (of varying degrees of scholarship of > course) >> > have been collected and presented. It is amazing how far you can > advance at >> > the early stages of your research into particular lines by using these >> > resources. I think they all have online catalogs, except for the Nabb >> > Center, so you can prepare in advance to access specific items when you > get >> > there. You can also accomplish much just by browsing the shelves, which > is >> > what I usually get sucked into. If you have not done a thorough job of >> > consulting previous research then you will probably just be treading > over >> > previously trod ground in your visits to the Archives. Your visits there >> > should focus on validation of the published secondary and tertiary > materials >> > and retrieving new materials that haven't already been unearthed. >> > >> > Both the Maryland and Delaware Archives do have libraries with some >> > collections of secondary materials, but that is not their forte. The >> > historical societies are better at this. The Maryland Archives library > is >> > mostly in stacks not open to the public but portions of it are in the > main >> > public area, including the family histories section. >> > >> > John Polk >> > Havre de Grace MD >> >> *************************************** >> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Barb --- There was a Janet Noble who married a second generation desc (Samuel) of the Samuel Hopkins, spouse Hannah Turner who came to Somerset Co MD c1680. Here's what I have on that Somerset Co Samuel: 1) Samuel and Janet Noble (V12, Col. Families) Hopkins: Children: Samuel; (unk) m Ezekiel Wise; John; Josiah; William. You're probably familiar with that. It was taken from V12, Col. Fams. of the Eastern Shore of MD. Obviously the children of the 1741 Will Samuel and the above children don't match ?? Joe > Joe and List, > > I have wondered if the name might be Jenet. Perhaps the transcriber took > the fancy J for a T? I have come up with the possibility that Tenet may be > Jennet Noble, daughter of William. > > I'm very interested in any or all of the people listed in the following two > documents: > > > Sussex Co., DE Wills > Prim Name: Samuel Hopkins, Sr., Yeoman > Admin Name: > Will Made Date: 06 Mar 1741 > Will Loc: > Heirs Name: wife Tenat Hopkins; sons William and Samuel Hopkins; daus. > Marg[a]ret, Ann and Jean Hopkins > Exec/Trus Name: friends Archabald Hopkins and Robert Neill > Wit Name: William Hopkins, Richard Loucom > Will Probate Date: 15 Apr 1741 > Will Book: Arch. vol. A78; Reg. of Wills, Liber A > Page: 20; folios 328-329 > > "Abstracts of the Administration Accounts of the Prerogative Court of Md. > Lib 1-5 1718-1724" by V. L. Skinner, Jr. > Page 97, > Gideon Tillman > Payments to: Mr Daniel Maccloister, Charles Ballard, Thomas Bardley, and > Samuel Hopkins; > vol 4, Liber 112 Administration, payments totaling slightly more than 100 > pounds Issued Mar 13, 1721. > > > MARYLAND CALENDAR OF WILLS: Volume 3 > Noble, William, Sr.,Somerset Co.,8th Mch., 1708-9; 7th June, 1709. > To son William, 12 pence. > To dau. Jennet Hopkins, personalty. > To wife Eliza:, extx., residue of estate, real and personal, excepting > certain personalty already given to son Jonathan. > To son James, dwelling plantation at decease of his mother. > Test: Mary Starrett, Robt. Mills, Jonathan Noble. > Part 2-12. 167. > > Barb > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > joslake@sbcglobal.net > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 2:53 AM > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDR] Colonial period Given Names for females > > John .... The testator was Samuel Hopkins [just one of the many :-) ], will > dated > 1741 and a resident of original (never a part of MD) Sussex Co. (possibly > Broadkill > Hundred near Milton) per the will. > > "Senith" is a completely new name to me (and I just went thru a > colonial/biblical > names site which Google found for me) but it might very well match the > penciled > notation on the Dover Archives typewritten copy of the 1741 will which the > will > typist or editor saw & pencilled as "Senot" (after typing Tenot). > > Just "for the record" .... there is a possibility that Samuel and Senot (or > Tenot) > were married in Albany Co NY (which I'm presently trying to confirm, or > not). > > Good lead. Thanks. Joe L. > > > My own initial speculation on seeing your question was, like Elizabeth's, > that the > name entered might have been "Senith", sometimes seen for "Asenath". But, > insufficient data. Who was the testator? Some of us out here in LDR land > might have > an odd record (or 10,000) which might help... > > John > > <joslake@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >>If "Tenat" has a Biblical era association, it might come from the word > "tenet(s)". >>It could come from a variety of places I suppose, including Asenath, but > those two >>words do not seem to have an association, to me?? But definitely no expert > I ..... >>that's why I sought the help of this list. :-) > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Barbara, John Lyon, Ellie B .... Thanks for the further comments. At the least, they narrow the search somewhat. The name Janet-Jenet?-Tenet (sort of a double misspelling) had occurred to me early on, but another document or two, referring to "Tenet" or ? is needed to maybe resolve the issue. Barb, do you know anything about the witness Richard Loucum ? If anyone on the list knows where his land was, the hundred where he resided or the church he attended, that would be very useful information. Thanks, Joe Lake > Joe and List, > > I have wondered if the name might be Jenet. Perhaps the transcriber took > the fancy J for a T? I have come up with the possibility that Tenet may be > Jennet Noble, daughter of William. > > I'm very interested in any or all of the people listed in the following two > documents: > > > Sussex Co., DE Wills > Prim Name: Samuel Hopkins, Sr., Yeoman > Admin Name: > Will Made Date: 06 Mar 1741 > Will Loc: > Heirs Name: wife Tenat Hopkins; sons William and Samuel Hopkins; daus. > Marg[a]ret, Ann and Jean Hopkins > Exec/Trus Name: friends Archabald Hopkins and Robert Neill > Wit Name: William Hopkins, Richard Loucom > Will Probate Date: 15 Apr 1741 > Will Book: Arch. vol. A78; Reg. of Wills, Liber A > Page: 20; folios 328-329 > > "Abstracts of the Administration Accounts of the Prerogative Court of Md. > Lib 1-5 1718-1724" by V. L. Skinner, Jr. > Page 97, > Gideon Tillman > Payments to: Mr Daniel Maccloister, Charles Ballard, Thomas Bardley, and > Samuel Hopkins; > vol 4, Liber 112 Administration, payments totaling slightly more than 100 > pounds Issued Mar 13, 1721. > > > MARYLAND CALENDAR OF WILLS: Volume 3 > Noble, William, Sr.,Somerset Co.,8th Mch., 1708-9; 7th June, 1709. > To son William, 12 pence. > To dau. Jennet Hopkins, personalty. > To wife Eliza:, extx., residue of estate, real and personal, excepting > certain personalty already given to son Jonathan. > To son James, dwelling plantation at decease of his mother. > Test: Mary Starrett, Robt. Mills, Jonathan Noble. > Part 2-12. 167. > > Barb > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > joslake@sbcglobal.net > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 2:53 AM > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDR] Colonial period Given Names for females > > John .... The testator was Samuel Hopkins [just one of the many :-) ], will > dated > 1741 and a resident of original (never a part of MD) Sussex Co. (possibly > Broadkill > Hundred near Milton) per the will. > > "Senith" is a completely new name to me (and I just went thru a > colonial/biblical > names site which Google found for me) but it might very well match the > penciled > notation on the Dover Archives typewritten copy of the 1741 will which the > will > typist or editor saw & pencilled as "Senot" (after typing Tenot). > > Just "for the record" .... there is a possibility that Samuel and Senot (or > Tenot) > were married in Albany Co NY (which I'm presently trying to confirm, or > not). > > Good lead. Thanks. Joe L. > > > My own initial speculation on seeing your question was, like Elizabeth's, > that the > name entered might have been "Senith", sometimes seen for "Asenath". But, > insufficient data. Who was the testator? Some of us out here in LDR land > might have > an odd record (or 10,000) which might help... > > John > > <joslake@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >>If "Tenat" has a Biblical era association, it might come from the word > "tenet(s)". >>It could come from a variety of places I suppose, including Asenath, but > those two >>words do not seem to have an association, to me?? But definitely no expert > I ..... >>that's why I sought the help of this list. :-)

John Polk: You comment below that all of the named institutions have on line catalogs, except The Nabb. My search (good or bad) indicates that the DE Archives in Dover have some individual categories on line, such as their probate records, but no comprehensive catalog of their complete holdings. If I'm wrong about that, could you please send me the correct URL to access their catalog? When I go online to the DE Archives, I always start at http://archives.delaware.gov Thanks, Joe Lake > The return on your time investment at either of these places is very > dependent on your preparation before arrival. The archives are mostly > repositories of original materials and it really helps to know exactly what > you are looking for so you are not wasting all your time ordering and > waiting for the staff to retrieve materials that don't help. I think they > both allow you to have three items (i.e. original documents, not microfilms) > at a time - if you are looking at these, it is important to submit your next > order slip as soon as you return an item, so that you are not sitting idly > at the the table waiting for something to come back from the stacks. > > Depending on how far you have progressed in your research you may want to > consider going to the the DAR Library, the Library of Congress, the > Maryland Historical Society (Baltimore), the Historical Society of > Pennsylvania (Philadelphia) or the Historical Society of Delaware > (Wilmington), and of course the Nabb center. All of these places have > excellent collections of published county and family histories in which the > work of previous researchers (of varying degrees of scholarship of course) > have been collected and presented. It is amazing how far you can advance at > the early stages of your research into particular lines by using these > resources. I think they all have online catalogs, except for the Nabb > Center, so you can prepare in advance to access specific items when you get > there. You can also accomplish much just by browsing the shelves, which is > what I usually get sucked into. If you have not done a thorough job of > consulting previous research then you will probably just be treading over > previously trod ground in your visits to the Archives. Your visits there > should focus on validation of the published secondary and tertiary materials > and retrieving new materials that haven't already been unearthed. > > Both the Maryland and Delaware Archives do have libraries with some > collections of secondary materials, but that is not their forte. The > historical societies are better at this. The Maryland Archives library is > mostly in stacks not open to the public but portions of it are in the main > public area, including the family histories section. > > John Polk > Havre de Grace MD

Hi, I'm wondering if there is anyone on this list who may have the name Benner in their line? I am working on a theory that some of the Benners may have changed their names to Bennet. Has anyone come across this in this particular area? Thanks, Joni

The return on your time investment at either of these places is very dependent on your preparation before arrival. The archives are mostly repositories of original materials and it really helps to know exactly what you are looking for so you are not wasting all your time ordering and waiting for the staff to retrieve materials that don't help. I think they both allow you to have three items (i.e. original documents, not microfilms) at a time - if you are looking at these, it is important to submit your next order slip as soon as you return an item, so that you are not sitting idly at the the table waiting for something to come back from the stacks. Depending on how far you have progressed in your research you may want to consider going to the the DAR Library, the Library of Congress, the Maryland Historical Society (Baltimore), the Historical Society of Pennsylvania (Philadelphia) or the Historical Society of Delaware (Wilmington), and of course the Nabb center. All of these places have excellent collections of published county and family histories in which the work of previous researchers (of varying degrees of scholarship of course) have been collected and presented. It is amazing how far you can advance at the early stages of your research into particular lines by using these resources. I think they all have online catalogs, except for the Nabb Center, so you can prepare in advance to access specific items when you get there. You can also accomplish much just by browsing the shelves, which is what I usually get sucked into. If you have not done a thorough job of consulting previous research then you will probably just be treading over previously trod ground in your visits to the Archives. Your visits there should focus on validation of the published secondary and tertiary materials and retrieving new materials that haven't already been unearthed. Both the Maryland and Delaware Archives do have libraries with some collections of secondary materials, but that is not their forte. The historical societies are better at this. The Maryland Archives library is mostly in stacks not open to the public but portions of it are in the main public area, including the family histories section. John Polk Havre de Grace MD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gwen Hignutt-Wint" <grwint@comcast.net> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 3:24 AM Subject: Re: [LDR] MD STATE ARCHIVES > I have been to both the Maryland and Delaware Archives and find the folks in Delaware > to be more helpful by far! (De., Archives is about an hour and a half from the Md., Archives). > If you are going to come from very far to the Maryland Archives, the National Archives are > only another 30 minute ride to in D.C...... > I have also heard the Nabb Center in Salisbury, Maryland which is about 2 hours from the > Maryland Archives, has records for all of Delmarva and is great with their records and their staff! > > So, if you are planning any kind of a trip to the Eastern Shore for research, within a 2 hour ride > you can hit all 4 Archives if you so desire...!!! > My people never left the Shore, so of course I love it here! > > Gwen > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Jeanne M. Bornefeld" <jeanneb@fwi.com> > > > Just as a side note - the Maryland Archives and the Maryland Historical > > Society with all their manuscript collections and such is a mighty hard > > act to follow for any state - I might be prejudiced, I don't know. What > > I do know and would like to tell all who have people there - mine came > > in the 1600's - is save your pennies and go there. They have marvelous > > records and collections - of course work like crazy before you go. I was > > blessed to have figured out my main line while I lived there. I still > > could not prove it, until YDNA. Ahhh, what a wonderful tool. All my > > "proven" males matched. Then I found a bunch of court records to > > disprove accepted records - it was a big hill to climb. This was the > > most difficult line I had done up to that time. > > > > Maryland records are treasures. There were so many really early people > > who left and went hither and yon - like down through VA to TN after > > 1768. There were many Marylanders who were very important in the > > formation of the state of TN. Sequoyah comes from the Gist family. Many > > Marylanders signed the Watauga Petition, considered to be the first > > Declaration of Independence. The history of Marylanders goes very deep > > in this country... Some were Puritans, Quakers, Catholics (Papists), > > which begets their own records, separate from the state records - and > > gosh, we didn't even have separation of church and state, yet! > > > > Jeanne > > > > Bob KNOTTS wrote: > > > I went to the MD archives in 1999 and found my gg-grandparents m in the > > > little notebook which I think the minister carried around. 1770!!! Bob K > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: > > > To: > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 7:41 PM > > > Subject: Re: [LDR] MD STATE ARCHIVES > > > > > > > > > > > >> Maryland did not keep birth or death records until 1898 (except for the > > >> city > > >> of Baltimore). As for marriages, mostly what still exists for earlier > > >> times > > >> are the county ledger books. The only information is the name of the > > >> groom, > > >> the name of the bride and the date of the license. It does not > > >> necessarily > > >> prove that a marriage actually took place, only that a license was > > >> issued. > > >> The website cannot possibly list what is on each roll of film, and you > > >> would > > >> naturally only copy (and pay for) something you actually want or need. > > >> > > >> Elizabeth > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion > > >> blog, > > >> plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. > > >> (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) > > >> *************************************** > > >> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > > >> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > > >> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > > >> ------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > *************************************** > > > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > > > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > > > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > *************************************** > > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

It isn't a list tag . . . It is a tag that was automatically included in the poster's email by their mail service. Shari -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nancy and Dave Lindroth Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 9:34 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDR] Advertising tag on Delmarva List Shari - why is this tag being included on the Digest List for Lower Delmarva? NML Augusta, GA > ************** > > Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the > latest fall > trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. > > (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) > *************************************** *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well, "Senith" isn't exactly a name, but a phonetic spelling, like so many other such cases. One of my own ancestresses was an Asenath, occasionally seen in records as "Senith". I imagine it was pronounced "a-SEE-nith", snd it may have been that she was familiarly called "Senith". Clerks wrote what they knew, and if they didn't know, what they heard. I've encountered an occasional other Senith, too, and a couple of similar things, whence my instant guess. But I see no Hopkins hints for you in Delmarva references in my files here. John <joslake@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >"Senith" is a completely new name to me (and I just went thru a colonial/biblical >names site which Google found for me) but it might very well match the penciled >notation on the Dover Archives typewritten copy of the 1741 will which the will >typist or editor saw & pencilled as "Senot" (after typing Tenot).

I have been to both the Maryland and Delaware Archives and find the folks in Delaware to be more helpful by far! (De., Archives is about an hour and a half from the Md., Archives). If you are going to come from very far to the Maryland Archives, the National Archives are only another 30 minute ride to in D.C...... I have also heard the Nabb Center in Salisbury, Maryland which is about 2 hours from the Maryland Archives, has records for all of Delmarva and is great with their records and their staff! So, if you are planning any kind of a trip to the Eastern Shore for research, within a 2 hour ride you can hit all 4 Archives if you so desire...!!! My people never left the Shore, so of course I love it here! Gwen -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Jeanne M. Bornefeld" <jeanneb@fwi.com> > Just as a side note - the Maryland Archives and the Maryland Historical > Society with all their manuscript collections and such is a mighty hard > act to follow for any state - I might be prejudiced, I don't know. What > I do know and would like to tell all who have people there - mine came > in the 1600's - is save your pennies and go there. They have marvelous > records and collections - of course work like crazy before you go. I was > blessed to have figured out my main line while I lived there. I still > could not prove it, until YDNA. Ahhh, what a wonderful tool. All my > "proven" males matched. Then I found a bunch of court records to > disprove accepted records - it was a big hill to climb. This was the > most difficult line I had done up to that time. > > Maryland records are treasures. There were so many really early people > who left and went hither and yon - like down through VA to TN after > 1768. There were many Marylanders who were very important in the > formation of the state of TN. Sequoyah comes from the Gist family. Many > Marylanders signed the Watauga Petition, considered to be the first > Declaration of Independence. The history of Marylanders goes very deep > in this country... Some were Puritans, Quakers, Catholics (Papists), > which begets their own records, separate from the state records - and > gosh, we didn't even have separation of church and state, yet! > > Jeanne > > Bob KNOTTS wrote: > > I went to the MD archives in 1999 and found my gg-grandparents m in the > > little notebook which I think the minister carried around. 1770!!! Bob K > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 7:41 PM > > Subject: Re: [LDR] MD STATE ARCHIVES > > > > > > > >> Maryland did not keep birth or death records until 1898 (except for the > >> city > >> of Baltimore). As for marriages, mostly what still exists for earlier > >> times > >> are the county ledger books. The only information is the name of the > >> groom, > >> the name of the bride and the date of the license. It does not > >> necessarily > >> prove that a marriage actually took place, only that a license was > >> issued. > >> The website cannot possibly list what is on each roll of film, and you > >> would > >> naturally only copy (and pay for) something you actually want or need. > >> > >> Elizabeth > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion > >> blog, > >> plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. > >> (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) > >> *************************************** > >> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > >> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > >> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > *************************************** > > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From a deed in Pickaway County Ohio, Asenath , wife of William B. Bailey dated 1828 signs away her dower rights.I have run across her name spelled Senitia on a census, a probable mistake by the enumerator.Eleanor Bailey 

Joe and List, I have wondered if the name might be Jenet. Perhaps the transcriber took the fancy J for a T? I have come up with the possibility that Tenet may be Jennet Noble, daughter of William. I'm very interested in any or all of the people listed in the following two documents: Sussex Co., DE Wills Prim Name: Samuel Hopkins, Sr., Yeoman Admin Name: Will Made Date: 06 Mar 1741 Will Loc: Heirs Name: wife Tenat Hopkins; sons William and Samuel Hopkins; daus. Marg[a]ret, Ann and Jean Hopkins Exec/Trus Name: friends Archabald Hopkins and Robert Neill Wit Name: William Hopkins, Richard Loucom Will Probate Date: 15 Apr 1741 Will Book: Arch. vol. A78; Reg. of Wills, Liber A Page: 20; folios 328-329 "Abstracts of the Administration Accounts of the Prerogative Court of Md. Lib 1-5 1718-1724" by V. L. Skinner, Jr. Page 97, Gideon Tillman Payments to: Mr Daniel Maccloister, Charles Ballard, Thomas Bardley, and Samuel Hopkins; vol 4, Liber 112 Administration, payments totaling slightly more than 100 pounds Issued Mar 13, 1721. MARYLAND CALENDAR OF WILLS: Volume 3 Noble, William, Sr.,Somerset Co.,8th Mch., 1708-9; 7th June, 1709. To son William, 12 pence. To dau. Jennet Hopkins, personalty. To wife Eliza:, extx., residue of estate, real and personal, excepting certain personalty already given to son Jonathan. To son James, dwelling plantation at decease of his mother. Test: Mary Starrett, Robt. Mills, Jonathan Noble. Part 2-12. 167. Barb -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of joslake@sbcglobal.net Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 2:53 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Colonial period Given Names for females John .... The testator was Samuel Hopkins [just one of the many :-) ], will dated 1741 and a resident of original (never a part of MD) Sussex Co. (possibly Broadkill Hundred near Milton) per the will. "Senith" is a completely new name to me (and I just went thru a colonial/biblical names site which Google found for me) but it might very well match the penciled notation on the Dover Archives typewritten copy of the 1741 will which the will typist or editor saw & pencilled as "Senot" (after typing Tenot). Just "for the record" .... there is a possibility that Samuel and Senot (or Tenot) were married in Albany Co NY (which I'm presently trying to confirm, or not). Good lead. Thanks. Joe L. My own initial speculation on seeing your question was, like Elizabeth's, that the name entered might have been "Senith", sometimes seen for "Asenath". But, insufficient data. Who was the testator? Some of us out here in LDR land might have an odd record (or 10,000) which might help... John <joslake@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >If "Tenat" has a Biblical era association, it might come from the word "tenet(s)". >It could come from a variety of places I suppose, including Asenath, but those two >words do not seem to have an association, to me?? But definitely no expert I ..... >that's why I sought the help of this list. :-) *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My own initial speculation on seeing your question was, like Elizabeth's, that the name entered might have been "Senith", sometimes seen for "Asenath". But, insufficient data. Who was the testator? Some of us out here in LDR land might have an odd record (or 10,000) which might help... John <joslake@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >If "Tenat" has a Biblical era association, it might come from the word "tenet(s)". >It could come from a variety of places I suppose, including Asenath, but those two >words do not seem to have an association, to me??  But definitely no expert I ..... >that's why I sought the help of this list.  :-)

John .... The testator was Samuel Hopkins [just one of the many :-) ], will dated 1741 and a resident of original (never a part of MD) Sussex Co. (possibly Broadkill Hundred near Milton) per the will. "Senith" is a completely new name to me (and I just went thru a colonial/biblical names site which Google found for me) but it might very well match the penciled notation on the Dover Archives typewritten copy of the 1741 will which the will typist or editor saw & pencilled as "Senot" (after typing Tenot). Just "for the record" .... there is a possibility that Samuel and Senot (or Tenot) were married in Albany Co NY (which I'm presently trying to confirm, or not). Good lead. Thanks. Joe L. My own initial speculation on seeing your question was, like Elizabeth's, that the name entered might have been "Senith", sometimes seen for "Asenath". But, insufficient data. Who was the testator? Some of us out here in LDR land might have an odd record (or 10,000) which might help... John <joslake@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >If "Tenat" has a Biblical era association, it might come from the word "tenet(s)". >It could come from a variety of places I suppose, including Asenath, but those two >words do not seem to have an association, to me?? But definitely no expert I ..... >that's why I sought the help of this list. :-) *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Please Add the name Middleton in Littlecreek Hundred to the list. Thank you so much. Ellen Middleton Scott Pittsville, Md. -----Original Message----- From: Ruth Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:56 AM To: loWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Cc: Carolyn Elliott (SxCoGenSoc) Miller Subject: [LDR] Sussex County Cousins; Carolyn Elliott Miller Special Interest >> Group being organized by the Sussex County Genealogical Society (SCGS) in cooperation with the Laurel (DE) Public >> Library..... Please feel free to contact me with any questions, suggestions or comments >> you may have concerning this group. My email address is bbde@verizon.net. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'd like to add me, too, please. My interest is particularly in Broad Creek Hundred, surnames Baker and Smith; Purnal Henry Baker married Sarah Smith. Time frame late 1700s; they moved to Ohio, where their daughter Tensey (Jenny) b. 4-5-1805 Sussex Co, De married Edward Preston Rowen b ~1800 Md or Ohio on 2-28-1824 Pickaway Co, Oh. Edward Rowen's parents were Alexander Rowen & Sarah Grainger, married 1788 in adjoining Dorchester Co, Md. Need parents for Sarah Grainger, Purnal Henry Baker, and proof and ancestry of Thomas Smith and wife, parents of Sarah Smith. These families were intimately connected to the Timmons families there; indeed, Tensey Baker Rowen married a second time after the death of Edward Rowen to brother-in-law Wingate Timmons, whose first wife was Edward Rowen's sister. These families moved mostly to the Tippecanoe Co. area of Indiana, while the Bakers pretty much remained in the counties surrounding Pickaway Co, Oh. I think a lot of people have a vested interest in this; can those of us who live afar help in any way, either by contributing results of research, or monetarily? Thanks! Ruth elmag@netamumail.com *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As previously stated, anything found on microfilm can be copied by the public with the microfilm copier for $.50 a page but the last time I was at the archives, they did not have a copier for use by the public for books found on the shelves or for original materials found in ledgers. Instead the staff photocopied materials for a fee. Another option is photographing with a digital camera. A good camera will make a readable record of most of the microfilm details. I have done it often. Jean Johnson On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 11:46 PM, Richard Baer <rbaer@kdhnc.net> wrote: > Lewis > > Anything you copy on the microfilm reader/printers will cost .50. It could > be book pages, obits, death certs, etc. Birth certs are restricted, so > usually you will have to take a birth cert number to the staff so they can > retreive it for you. You can sometimes find that birth cert number on the > appropriate microfilm index. When the staff prints someting for you the > price varies from .50 to 10.00, depending on their criteria. The staff is > very helpful. > > Elizabeth has already explained to you the deal w/the marriage > applications. > > Good luck. > > Richard > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "LEWIS TYLER" > To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 7:48 PM > Subject: Re: [LDR] MD STATE ARCHIVES > > > > > Subject: Re: [LDR] MD STATE ARCHIVES > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com > Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 9:44 PM > > > > > > > > > > Re: MD State Archives web site states the following: > > > > > > > Basic Copy Fees > > > > > > > > Copies in the Search Room from microfilm reader printers > $0.50 per page > My question is what will I be copying? Will I copy an actual > birth,death,marriage record or just an INDEX of the record? The site is not > clear on this issue. Can anyone clear up this issue? > lew > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Might it have been a nickname for Asenath? I have seen some odd nicknames in wills, such as Trippy for Triphenia, Zippy for Zipporah, and so on and on. What were they thinking? Asenathăs'ənăth, in the Bible, Poti-phera's daughter, the Egyptian wife of Joseph, mother of Manasseh and Ephraim. Her betrothal to Joseph and conversion to Judaism are the subject of Joseph and Asenath, one of the Old Testament _Pseudepigrapha_ (http://plus.aol.com/aol/redir?src=encyclopedia&requestId=c3cf4d9d986a2312&userQuery=Asenath&clickedItemURN=reference/Pseudepi/Pseudepigraph a?invocationType=encyclopedia.main&moduleId=encyclopedia.M&clickedItemDescript ion=Encyclopedia Main) Elizabeth **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

Does the archives still have a film of the original? If so, you may find your answer there. Also, check for subsequent records, such as Orphans Court, land or even marriages (a lot of marriage records seem to have been used in outhouses or somewhere, but you might get lucky). Elizabeth **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

I tried replying to your message about Robert Watson, and the "roots bounces" kept rejecting it. I still haven't heard from them as to why this was happening. So hope you notice your name in the subject line! My home e-mail is joni@mcburney.ca. Jimmy, In my tree, I have a Robert Watson (no dates) married to Susannah Etheridge (no dates) They had a Peter Watson, born August 11, 1660; died 1702 in Northampton, VA. Peter married Anne Shepherd in 1680 in Northampton. They had an Elizabeth Watson (born between 1702 and 1715); they also had an Abigail Watson, died 1772 in VA. Elizabeth married Charlton Smith (b 1673 and d 1724). The Charlton Smith descendents in my line ended up in Sussex County, Delaware, as well as parts of Maryland. If you'd like to discuss further, please contact me at the above address. Thanks, Joni

Elizabeth ... According to the Preface in deValinger's Calendar of Sussex Co DE Prob Records 1680-1800, wills were only typewritten (for the Dover Arch files) when the original was missing. I *assume* they typed it from a handwritten copy which was in Georgetown ???? I've not found any other records associated with this will testator and his spouse, but you make a good point. If "Tenat" has a Biblical era association, it might come from the word "tenet(s)". It could come from a variety of places I suppose, including Asenath, but those two words do not seem to have an association, to me?? But definitely no expert I ..... that's why I sought the help of this list. :-) Joe Lake > Might it have been a nickname for Asenath? I have seen some odd nicknames > in wills, such as Trippy for Triphenia, Zippy for Zipporah, and so on and on. > What were they thinking? > > Asenathăs'ənăth, in the Bible, Poti-phera's daughter, the Egyptian wife of > Joseph, mother of Manasseh and Ephraim. Her betrothal to Joseph and > conversion to Judaism are the subject of Joseph and Asenath, one of the Old > Testament > _Pseudepigrapha_ > (http://plus.aol.com/aol/redir?src=encyclopedia&requestId=c3cf4d9d986a2312&userQuery=Asenath&clickedItemURN=reference/Pseudepi/Pseudepigraph > a?invocationType=encyclopedia.main&moduleId=encyclopedia.M&clickedItemDescript > ion=Encyclopedia Main) > > Elizabeth > > > > **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial > challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and > calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just as a side note - the Maryland Archives and the Maryland Historical Society with all their manuscript collections and such is a mighty hard act to follow for any state - I might be prejudiced, I don't know. What I do know and would like to tell all who have people there - mine came in the 1600's - is save your pennies and go there. They have marvelous records and collections - of course work like crazy before you go. I was blessed to have figured out my main line while I lived there. I still could not prove it, until YDNA. Ahhh, what a wonderful tool. All my "proven" males matched. Then I found a bunch of court records to disprove accepted records - it was a big hill to climb. This was the most difficult line I had done up to that time. Maryland records are treasures. There were so many really early people who left and went hither and yon - like down through VA to TN after 1768. There were many Marylanders who were very important in the formation of the state of TN. Sequoyah comes from the Gist family. Many Marylanders signed the Watauga Petition, considered to be the first Declaration of Independence. The history of Marylanders goes very deep in this country... Some were Puritans, Quakers, Catholics (Papists), which begets their own records, separate from the state records - and gosh, we didn't even have separation of church and state, yet! Jeanne Bob KNOTTS wrote: > I went to the MD archives in 1999 and found my gg-grandparents m in the > little notebook which I think the minister carried around. 1770!!! Bob K > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <EMSCRS@aol.com> > To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 7:41 PM > Subject: Re: [LDR] MD STATE ARCHIVES > > > >> Maryland did not keep birth or death records until 1898 (except for the >> city >> of Baltimore). As for marriages, mostly what still exists for earlier >> times >> are the county ledger books. The only information is the name of the >> groom, >> the name of the bride and the date of the license. It does not >> necessarily >> prove that a marriage actually took place, only that a license was >> issued. >> The website cannot possibly list what is on each roll of film, and you >> would >> naturally only copy (and pay for) something you actually want or need. >> >> Elizabeth >> >> >> >> >> >> **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion >> blog, >> plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. >> (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) >> *************************************** >> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >