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    1. [LDR] Dryden, Merrill, Mills and Ball 1700's, MD & VA
    2. Hi All, I am confused as to the Robert Mills involved in the following. I hope someone can clear it up for me. I am at my wits end. My question will be at the end. All the proof is up front. Worcester co., MD Orphans Court Proceedings Vol. 1 (1777-1800) by David V. Heise states: April 9, 1782 -SARAH MILLS (of Robert) 4 yrs. Appointed guardian: Josiah Merrill Sureties: Joseph Schoolfield, John Ayres Page 82 F. 317 - Dec. Court 1785 Orphan: JOSIAH MERRILL (of Josiah) 3 Appointed Guardian: James Smith Sureties: George Stevenson, LEVI BALL F. 318 Dec. Court 1785 Orphan: HETTA MERRILL (of Josiah) 5(?) Appointed Guardian: LEVI BALL Sureties: James Smith, George Stevenson P. 83 F. 320 Feb. Court 1786 Orphan: SARAH MILLS (of Robert) 9 Appointed Guardian: NOBLE DRYDEN Sureties: LEVI BALL, John Blades P. 128 - F. 495 Oct. Court 1788 Orphan: Robert Mills (7 July next), Samuel Mills (4 last Oct.) (of Robert) Appointed Guardian: ELIZABETH MILLS (Couldn't write) Sureties: LEVI BALL, Joseph Stevenson P. 219, F 309 June 7, 1796 Court Orphan: HETTY MERRILL (of Josiah), over 14 Chosen guardian: THOMAS MERRILL, SEN. Sureties: LEVI BALL, THOMAS MERRILL p. 256 F. 271 Apr Term 1797 LEVI BALL & ELIZABETH, his wife, guardian to SAMUEL MILLS (DECEASED) P. 256 F 271 - Apr. term 1797 LEVI BALL & ELIZABETH, his wife, guardian to ROBERT MILLS ( of Robert) June 10, 1800 - LEVI BALL & ELIZABETH, his wife, guardian to SAMUEL MILLS ( of Robert) ELIZABETH BALL had a will in Worcester Co., MD F. 163 Written: Aug. 8, 1807 (the day that her husband Levi's will was probated) To son Samuel Mills - land and plantation left me by my father To grandchildren Milla Houston and Betsy Houston - personal property. Executor: son, Gillett Mills My questions are: 1. If Apr. term 1797 Levi Ball and Elizabeth were guardian to Samuel Mills who is marked deceased, why would they still be the guardians for Samuel on June 10, 1800. Why would Elizabeth name Samuel as her son in the 1807 Will that she wrote? 2. I have seen many postings that Ann Dryden, b. 1761, Worcester, MD, dau. of Noble Dryden married 1st Robert Mills and then married Josiah Merrill after 1780. Noble Dryden also had a dau. Elizabeth. The above documentation lists the same children as children of Robert Mills. How can Ann Dryden and Elizabeth ??? both have married Robert Mills? 3. According to the Leslie P. Dryden Records from the NABB - Ann Dryden b. 1761, Worcester Co., MD; died between 1784 & 1786; m. Robert Mills 1771. Robert Mills died May 12, 1780. They had a child Sarah Mills. Ann then married Josiah Merrill and had Hetty and Josiah. Is this correct? 4. Could Elizabeth have taken Ann's children after Ann died? The only problem is that the ages of the children do not match the dates that they could be the children of the Robert Mills who married Ann Dryden in 1771. According to the court documents: Sarah Mills was 9 in 1786 so she would have been born ca 1775. Robert Mills was 6 1/2 in 1788 so he would have been born ca 1782. Samuel Mills was 4 in 1788 so he would have been born in1784. The Robert Mills who was married to Ann Dryden died May 12, 1780. Thanks for taking the time to digest all of this. Were am I wrong? Clare

    09/23/2008 06:47:30
    1. Re: [LDR] Pennsylvania New Castle, Kent and Sussex on Delaware
    2. E Johnson
    3. Mary, If you want to copy something from Google books, there's a selection on the right-hand side that will let you select plain text or the page images. Note: this text is OCR'ed and occasionally garbles things or loses lines, so if you use this, do proofread it by comparing your copied text with the page image. Also, trying to copy more than one page of text at a time can create errors, so copy in smaller chunks. Liz J

    09/23/2008 10:31:40
    1. Re: [LDR] Pennsylvania New Castle, Kent and Sussex on Delaware
    2. Cut and paste, and choose "selection" when you go to print. Elizabeth **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

    09/23/2008 07:23:27
    1. Re: [LDR] Pennsylvania New Castle, Kent and Sussex on Delaware
    2. Mary
    3. HI, Thank you for this information. I did find something I wanted to copy for future reference but couldn't understand how to print only the one page. If someone knows how to do this would the contact me off line, mydesire@gulftel.com Thanks. Mary in Alabama ----- Original Message ----- From: "E Johnson" <iris.gates@gmail.com> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 7:04 PM Subject: *****SPAM***** Re: [LDR] Pennsylvania > Mary, > > You would want to check the Pennsylvania Archives. See: > > PA Arch 2nd ser Vol V > http://books.google.com/books?id=skAOAAAAIAAJ& > > PA Arch 2nd ser Vol VII > http://books.google.com/books?id=xnIFAAAAQAAJ& > > These are searchable by surname, but you might need to exercise > "creative misspelling." > > Also check _The Breviate_ in the Penna Archives. I don't remember > which volume that is in, but also found in Google books, I believe --if > not, in footnote.com. The Breviate consists of testimony given in about > 1736, concerning boundary disputes between the Penn colony and other > states. Testators here relate their recollections or knowledge > concerningvents in PA and Delaware that took place 50 years before this > date, or earlier. Often, elderly people give their birth dates, name their > parents, identify place-names and so forth. > > Good luck, > Liz J > > > 2008/9/21 Mary <mydesire@gulftel.com>: >> Hi, In looking at older year(late 1600s) records Accomack Co., VA I >> noted they referred to Sussex County, Pennsylvania. Also I did see on >> record with spelled Pennsylvania something like Pennselve(Penn self?) >> Since I've heard early records could be in the Pennsylvania records how >> or what books might contain these records??? Is there a book "How to do >> research in the early,early years of Sussex County, DE"? >> Mary in Alabama >

    09/23/2008 06:20:54
    1. Re: [LDR] Pennsylvania
    2. Mary
    3. Hi, Thanks for this listing. And to think Google has some of them on line. Smiles from Alabama Mary PS The hummingbirds are migrating south and stopping at our house :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "E Johnson" <iris.gates@gmail.com> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 7:04 PM Subject: *****SPAM***** Re: [LDR] Pennsylvania > Mary, > > You would want to check the Pennsylvania Archives. See: > > PA Arch 2nd ser Vol V > http://books.google.com/books?id=skAOAAAAIAAJ& > > PA Arch 2nd ser Vol VII > http://books.google.com/books?id=xnIFAAAAQAAJ& > > These are searchable by surname, but you might need to exercise "creative > misspelling." > > Also check _The Breviate_ in the Penna Archives. I don't remember > which volume that is in, but also found in Google books, I believe --if > not, in footnote.com. The Breviate consists of testimony given in about > 1736, concerning boundary disputes between the Penn colony and other > states. Testators here relate their recollections or knowledge > concerningvents in PA and Delaware that took place 50 years before this > date, or earlier. Often, elderly people give their birth dates, name their > parents, identify place-names and so forth. > > Good luck, > Liz J > > > 2008/9/21 Mary <mydesire@gulftel.com>: >> Hi, In looking at older year(late 1600s) records Accomack Co., VA I >> noted they referred to Sussex County, Pennsylvania. Also I did see on >> record with spelled Pennsylvania something like Pennselve(Penn self?) >> Since I've heard early records could be in the Pennsylvania records how >> or what books might contain these records??? Is there a book "How to do >> research in the early,early years of Sussex County, DE"? >> Mary in Alabama

    09/22/2008 03:35:14
    1. Re: [LDR] Watson's in Cedar Creek Hundred
    2. Grampy
    3. Carole, I know what you mean about all the William Watsons. I believe that Luke Watson was the original Watson settler in this area, but I don't know if my line ties into him or not. I need to make a trip to the archives in Dover but probably won't get there until next year. I am hoping to find something in either the land records or wills that will help identify him. I do have a great aunt that married Ira deWees Townsend in the 1950's. It was a second marraige for both of them. I have seen a Manlove McNatt but he is not in my direct line. I will keep your e-mail on file in the event I find anything about any other Watsons or if I am able to get back beyond William. Who are your Cedar Creek Watsons? Jack W. McNatt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carole 2922" <carole2922@gmail.com> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] Watson's in Cedar Creek Hundred Hi Jack, There appear to be many William Watson's in Cedar Creek Hundred (it makes my head hurt!!!) I've gone thru all of my Wm Watson's to see if anything would fit the time frame, but can't find anything that gets close to your particular Watson line. I'm sure there's a connection - I just don't have enough data in my tree to connect it. There's probably a common ancestor we share further back in the line. Do you happen to have any Townsends or Manloves going backwards anywhere? If you do, that might help with a connection. Carole On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Grampy <grampy@tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > Carole, > > I am researching Watson's in Cedar Creek Hundred. My Gr Gr Grandfather > Daniel Watson, b. 8/27/1830 , d. 2/26/1914, m. Julia Ann Warren > 11/28/1855. They had children; William T.; Mary E.; Sarah E.; Daniel R.; > George F.; Burton; Jennie; Charles; Samuel; Joseph; John H.; Lydia; Frank > and Annie. Daniel is listed in Cedar Creek Hundred in the > 1850 census with his Mother Mary 44; sister Mary E. 28; brothers William > 24 > and Thomas 21. According to his death certificate, Daniel's parents are > listed as Mary Clifton and William Watson. I have data on Julia Ann > Warren's family but nothing furthur on William Watson or Mary Clifton. > Any > light you can shed on them would be appreciated. > > Jack W. McNatt > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carole 2922" <carole2922@gmail.com> > To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:00 AM > Subject: Re: [LDR] LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 313 > > > Please add me to your list of Sussex County Cousins! > > Mine hail from Cedar Creek Hundred. My families include: Watson, Townsend, > Manlove & Davis among others. > > Carole > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/22/2008 03:31:07
    1. Re: [LDR] Colonial period Given Names for females
    2. Gwen Hignutt-Wint
    3. No I haven't Barb, but thanks for the thought, I will do just that in the next few days! Thank you! -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Barb Holmes" <bholmes@austin.rr.com> > Gwen, > > I'm sorry but Noble is not one of the lines I'm seriously researching. Have > you browsed through the years of past messages to this list pertaining to > the Nobles? If you haven't recently, you might find something that will > give you a new clue to your particular Noble line. > > Barb > > -----Original Message----- > From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gwen > Hignutt-Wint > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 11:26 PM > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDR] Colonial period Given Names for females > > Barb and Joe, > > Do you have further descendants of this William Noble? My Noble family has > several Williams, but I > only have found back to Thomas Noble born around 1795 and died about 1850. > Thomas m. > Elizabeth Morrison in 1818 and they had 7 children; William, Philip, Thomas, > Clement, Sarah E., Rebecca A. and Mary Emily Noble. > I have Thomas' possible father as Philip b. appx.1765 with his father > possible Isaac born about 1740, but no documentation on these two... > > I also thought I would share the following. I am hopeful it relates to my > Thomas Noble, but I haven't been able to find any links yet. > > I was sent this from the Nabb Center: > Files\Content.IE5\BWA2UJ27\07-08-31_Noble-Davis-Kinder; notes from Nabb > Research center Allen Twiford > > 2.The original Noble [given name unknown] arrived c. 1650 in Maryland and > moved to Dorchester County to settle on the patent of John Richards who held > the patent from William Penn. [?timing issue? PA in 1689], pg. 22. > 3.#6 updated in 1975 to identify the first US Noble as Thomas [b. > circa1640-d.1708] who arrived in Talbot County, MD, [circa 1674] married to > a Joane. > > Thank you, > Gwen > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: > > > Barb --- There was a Janet Noble who married a second generation desc > (Samuel) > > of > > the Samuel Hopkins, spouse Hannah Turner who came to Somerset Co MD c1680. > > > > > Here's what I have on that Somerset Co Samuel: > > > > 1) Samuel and Janet Noble (V12, Col. Families) Hopkins: Children: Samuel; > > (unk) m > > Ezekiel Wise; John; Josiah; William. > > > > > > > > You're probably familiar with that. It was taken from V12, Col. Fams. of > the > > Eastern > > Shore of MD. Obviously the children of the 1741 Will Samuel and the above > > children > > don't match ?? > > > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > > Joe and List, > > > > > > I have wondered if the name might be Jenet. Perhaps the transcriber took > > > > the fancy J for a T? I have come up with the possibility that Tenet may > be > > > Jennet Noble, daughter of William. > > > > > > I'm very interested in any or all of the people listed in the following > two > > > documents: > > > > > > > > > Sussex Co., DE Wills > > > Prim Name: Samuel Hopkins, Sr., Yeoman > > > Admin Name: > > > Will Made Date: 06 Mar 1741 > > > Will Loc: > > > Heirs Name: wife Tenat Hopkins; sons William and Samuel Hopkins; daus. > > > Marg[a]ret, Ann and Jean Hopkins > > > Exec/Trus Name: friends Archabald Hopkins and Robert Neill > > > Wit Name: William Hopkins, Richard Loucom > > > Will Probate Date: 15 Apr 1741 > > > Will Book: Arch. vol. A78; Reg. of Wills, Liber A > > > Page: 20; folios 328-329 > > > > > > "Abstracts of the Administration Accounts of the Prerogative Court of > Md. > > > Lib 1-5 1718-1724" by V. L. Skinner, Jr. > > > Page 97, > > > Gideon Tillman > > > Payments to: Mr Daniel Maccloister, Charles Ballard, Thomas Bardley, and > > > > Samuel Hopkins; > > > vol 4, Liber 112 Administration, payments totaling slightly more than > 100 > > > pounds Issued Mar 13, 1721. > > > > > > > > > MARYLAND CALENDAR OF WILLS: Volume 3 > > > Noble, William, Sr.,Somerset Co.,8th Mch., 1708-9; 7th June, 1709. > > > To son William, 12 pence. > > > To dau. Jennet Hopkins, personalty. > > > To wife Eliza:, extx., residue of estate, real and personal, excepting > > > certain personalty already given to son Jonathan. > > > To son James, dwelling plantation at decease of his mother. > > > Test: Mary Starrett, Robt. Mills, Jonathan Noble. > > > Part 2-12. 167. > > > > > > Barb > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com > > > [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > > > joslake@sbcglobal.net > > > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 2:53 AM > > > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [LDR] Colonial period Given Names for females > > > > > > John .... The testator was Samuel Hopkins [just one of the many :-) ], > will > > > dated > > > 1741 and a resident of original (never a part of MD) Sussex Co. > (possibly > > > Broadkill > > > Hundred near Milton) per the will. > > > > > > "Senith" is a completely new name to me (and I just went thru a > > > colonial/biblical > > > names site which Google found for me) but it might very well match the > > > penciled > > > notation on the Dover Archives typewritten copy of the 1741 will which > the > > > will > > > typist or editor saw & pencilled as "Senot" (after typing Tenot). > > > > > > Just "for the record" .... there is a possibility that Samuel and Senot > (or > > > Tenot) > > > were married in Albany Co NY (which I'm presently trying to confirm, or > > > not). > > > > > > Good lead. Thanks. Joe L. > > > > > > > > > My own initial speculation on seeing your question was, like > Elizabeth's, > > > that the > > > name entered might have been "Senith", sometimes seen for "Asenath". > But, > > > insufficient data. Who was the testator? Some of us out here in LDR land > > > > might have > > > an odd record (or 10,000) which might help... > > > > > > John > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >>If "Tenat" has a Biblical era association, it might come from the word > > > "tenet(s)". > > >>It could come from a variety of places I suppose, including Asenath, but > > > > those two > > >>words do not seem to have an association, to me?? But definitely no > expert > > > I ..... > > >>that's why I sought the help of this list. :-) > > > > > > *************************************** > > > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > > > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > > > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > *************************************** > > > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > > > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > > > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > *************************************** > > > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > > > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > > > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > *************************************** > > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/21/2008 10:32:28
    1. Re: [LDR] Pennsylvania
    2. E Johnson
    3. Mary, You would want to check the Pennsylvania Archives. See: PA Arch 2nd ser Vol V http://books.google.com/books?id=skAOAAAAIAAJ& PA Arch 2nd ser Vol VII http://books.google.com/books?id=xnIFAAAAQAAJ& These are searchable by surname, but you might need to exercise "creative misspelling." Also check _The Breviate_ in the Penna Archives. I don't remember which volume that is in, but also found in Google books, I believe --if not, in footnote.com. The Breviate consists of testimony given in about 1736, concerning boundary disputes between the Penn colony and other states. Testators here relate their recollections or knowledge concerningvents in PA and Delaware that took place 50 years before this date, or earlier. Often, elderly people give their birth dates, name their parents, identify place-names and so forth. Good luck, Liz J 2008/9/21 Mary <mydesire@gulftel.com>: > Hi, In looking at older year(late 1600s) records Accomack Co., VA I noted > they referred to Sussex County, Pennsylvania. Also I did see on record with > spelled Pennsylvania something like Pennselve(Penn self?) > Since I've heard early records could be in the Pennsylvania records how or > what books might contain these records??? Is there a book "How to do > research in the early,early years of Sussex County, DE"? > Mary in Alabama > > ***************************************

    09/21/2008 02:04:06
    1. Re: [LDR] Pennsylvania
    2. CarolS Jones
    3. Elizabeth, that is the best description I have ever heard of researching Delmarva families ..... and what would we do without John to help us poke into those dark corners Carol -------------------------------------------------- From: <EMSCRS@aol.com> Subject: Re: [LDR] Pennsylvania > Much of Delaware was once part of Pennsylvania, and many Delaware records > are still located in Pennsylvania. The ESVA folk turned creative spelling > into > a very high art form. > > As far as books, keep in mind that every family on the Delmarva Peninsula > is > related to every other family, and they all wandered back and forth > aimlessly, leaving either no trace at all, or bits and pieces all over the > place. > You cannot just research one place, you have to look in at least six > counties > in three different states. Maryland still has some Delaware records > lurking > in dark corners. > > Elizabeth

    09/21/2008 11:45:37
    1. Re: [LDR] Pennsylvania
    2. Much of Delaware was once part of Pennsylvania, and many Delaware records are still located in Pennsylvania. The ESVA folk turned creative spelling into a very high art form. As far as books, keep in mind that every family on the Delmarva Peninsula is related to every other family, and they all wandered back and forth aimlessly, leaving either no trace at all, or bits and pieces all over the place. You cannot just research one place, you have to look in at least six counties in three different states. Maryland still has some Delaware records lurking in dark corners. Elizabeth **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

    09/21/2008 11:32:47
    1. Re: [LDR] Thank you - Colony family name
    2. I am not connected to that family, but when at home I do live in Accomack (been out of state for five months due to family illness). I expect to be home next month somewhen, if you would like to email me then for lookups or some other help. In the meantime, I highly recommend that you join GHOTES, check out their site and so on. Barry and M.K. Miles have compiled a reasonably complete and mostly accurate (nothing is ever foolproof) genealogy of virtually every ESVA family (except mine). Elizabeth **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

    09/21/2008 11:28:59
    1. Re: [LDR] A "J" for a "T"
    2. Mary
    3. Hello, I have a Terrell on the 1880 Census taken for a Jerrell. So yes, some do mistake a T for a J. So I could see that happening with the early writing. But I've also seen different spelling of the common name. Perhaps the accent of the person pronouncing that name. Smiles, Mary in Alabama ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barb Holmes" <bholmes@austin.rr.com> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [LDR] Colonial period Given Names for females > Joe and List, > > I have wondered if the name might be Jenet. Perhaps the transcriber took > the fancy J for a T? I have come up with the possibility that Tenet may > be Jennet Noble, daughter of William. > > I'm very interested in any or all of the people listed in the following > two documents: > > > Sussex Co., DE Wills > Prim Name: Samuel Hopkins, Sr., Yeoman > Admin Name: > Will Made Date: 06 Mar 1741 > Will Loc: > Heirs Name: wife Tenat Hopkins; sons William and Samuel Hopkins; daus. > Marg[a]ret, Ann and Jean Hopkins > Exec/Trus Name: friends Archabald Hopkins and Robert Neill > Wit Name: William Hopkins, Richard Loucom > Will Probate Date: 15 Apr 1741 > Will Book: Arch. vol. A78; Reg. of Wills, Liber A > Page: 20; folios 328-329 > > "Abstracts of the Administration Accounts of the Prerogative Court of Md. > Lib 1-5 1718-1724" by V. L. Skinner, Jr. > Page 97, > Gideon Tillman > Payments to: Mr Daniel Maccloister, Charles Ballard, Thomas Bardley, and > Samuel Hopkins; > vol 4, Liber 112 Administration, payments totaling slightly more than 100 > pounds Issued Mar 13, 1721. > > > MARYLAND CALENDAR OF WILLS: Volume 3 > Noble, William, Sr.,Somerset Co.,8th Mch., 1708-9; 7th June, 1709. > To son William, 12 pence. > To dau. Jennet Hopkins, personalty. > To wife Eliza:, extx., residue of estate, real and personal, excepting > certain personalty already given to son Jonathan. > To son James, dwelling plantation at decease of his mother. > Test: Mary Starrett, Robt. Mills, Jonathan Noble. > Part 2-12. 167. > > Barb > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > joslake@sbcglobal.net > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 2:53 AM > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LDR] Colonial period Given Names for females > > John .... The testator was Samuel Hopkins [just one of the many :-) ], > will dated 1741 and a resident of original (never a part of MD) Sussex Co. > (possibly Broadkill > Hundred near Milton) per the will. > > "Senith" is a completely new name to me (and I just went thru a > colonial/biblical names site which Google found for me) but it might very > well match the penciled notation on the Dover Archives typewritten copy of the 1741 will which the will typist or editor saw & pencilled as "Senot" (after typing Tenot). > > Just "for the record" .... there is a possibility that Samuel and Senot > (or Tenot) were married in Albany Co NY (which I'm presently trying to > confirm, or not). > > Good lead. Thanks. Joe L. > > > My own initial speculation on seeing your question was, like Elizabeth's, > that the name entered might have been "Senith", sometimes seen for > "Asenath". But, insufficient data. Who was the testator? Some of us out > here in LDR land > might have an odd record (or 10,000) which might help... >

    09/21/2008 10:46:56
    1. Re: [LDR] Given Names for females/ Gideon Tillman
    2. Barb Holmes
    3. Nancy, I don't think I am the same Barbara you mention, but in my notes I have the same entry as: "Abstracts of the Administration Accounts of the Prerogative Court of Md. Lib 1-5 1718-1724" by V. L. Skinner, Jr. Page 97 Gideon Tillman 4.112 A So L85.16.5 L21.6.9 Mar 13 1721 Payments to: Mr Daniel Maccloister, Charles Ballard, Thomas Bordley, and Samuel Hopkins. Executrix: Margaret Tillman Explanation: A -an administration account SO -Somerset Co., MD The name is of the deceased, who in this case died before 1721. The date is when this payment was approved by the executrix. -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nancy and Dave Lindroth Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:50 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDR] Given Names for females/ Gideon Tillman In a previous message from Barb the following was submitted. I descend from Gideon Tillman[Tilghman] and was wondering what his part in this transaction is. Is he the deceased? Nancy [Tilghman] Lindroth Augusta, GA > > Gideon Tillman > vol 4, Liber 112 Administration, payments totaling slightly more than 100 > pounds Issued Mar 13, 1721. *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/21/2008 08:43:39
    1. Re: [LDR] Pennsylvania
    2. Mary
    3. Hi, In looking at older year(late 1600s) records Accomack Co., VA I noted they referred to Sussex County, Pennsylvania. Also I did see on record with spelled Pennsylvania something like Pennselve(Penn self?) Since I've heard early records could be in the Pennsylvania records how or what books might contain these records??? Is there a book "How to do research in the early,early years of Sussex County, DE"? Mary in Alabama

    09/21/2008 08:42:22
    1. Re: [LDR] Thank you - Colony family name
    2. Mary
    3. HI, Some one a way back said to try the Colony spelling for my Culleney family line. Thank you. I now have a new way of looking at my line but need to do more research. While in Alabama archives I looked at Accomack Co and found A book on Revolutionary Soldier and Sailor from Accomack Co., VA "It is ordered to the certified that it appears to the Court by satisfactory proof that James Colony son of George and Samuel Hickman and Polly Hickman, children of Polly Hickman, formerly Polly Colony, daugher of George Colony, are the only heirs at law of George Colony a soldier in the Revolutionary War." 28 Aug 1832. And if the Court items are within the date of the one before or after this next one would be 29 July 1835 and "It is ordered to be certified that it appears to the Court by satisfactory proof that Timothy Colony and Southy Colony, soldiers of the Virginia Continental Line in the Revolutionary War died instate and that Nancy, Sarah and Elijah Colony were their brother and sisters and only heirs at law. - that Nancy is now Nancy Melson. That Sarah married John Parkes and died instates leaving Edmund Parkes, Peter Parkes, Polly Stephens, John Willett, Betsy Parkes, Anna Landin, James Parkes, Sally Churn, Edmund Turnall, Robert Turnall and Sarah Turnall her only heirs. That Elijah Colony (brother of Southy & Timothy) died intestate leaving Caty Colony, ,John Colony, Susan Colony, Comfort Thomas, Henry Colony, Sally Colony, William Colony, Elijah Colony, Thomas Bull, Elisha Bull, Fanny Bull, James Colony, and John W. Colony his only heirs. Another ordered lists more Colony and Satchell family member which have a Sothy name also. What does this mean...Betsy Colony daughter of Ester Satchell(who was devisee of Southy) died instate leaving Zippa COlony, Polly Lewis, Esther Colony, William Colony, Betsy Colony, James Colony and Sukey Colony. I believe this to be a Court document dated 29 July 1835 too. Has anyone any connection to Colony line in Accomack County? Mary In Alabama

    09/21/2008 08:31:52
    1. [LDR] Given Names for females/ Gideon Tillman
    2. Nancy and Dave Lindroth
    3. In a previous message from Barb the following was submitted. I descend from Gideon Tillman[Tilghman] and was wondering what his part in this transaction is. Is he the deceased? Nancy [Tilghman] Lindroth Augusta, GA > "Abstracts of the Administration Accounts of the Prerogative Court of Md. > Lib 1-5 1718-1724" by V. L. Skinner, Jr. > Page 97, > Gideon Tillman > Payments to: Mr Daniel Maccloister, Charles Ballard, Thomas Bardley, and > Samuel Hopkins; > vol 4, Liber 112 Administration, payments totaling slightly more than 100 > pounds Issued Mar 13, 1721.

    09/21/2008 04:49:48
    1. Re: [LDR] Colonial period Given Names for females
    2. Barb Holmes
    3. Gwen, I'm sorry but Noble is not one of the lines I'm seriously researching. Have you browsed through the years of past messages to this list pertaining to the Nobles? If you haven't recently, you might find something that will give you a new clue to your particular Noble line. Barb -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gwen Hignutt-Wint Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 11:26 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Colonial period Given Names for females Barb and Joe, Do you have further descendants of this William Noble? My Noble family has several Williams, but I only have found back to Thomas Noble born around 1795 and died about 1850. Thomas m. Elizabeth Morrison in 1818 and they had 7 children; William, Philip, Thomas, Clement, Sarah E., Rebecca A. and Mary Emily Noble. I have Thomas' possible father as Philip b. appx.1765 with his father possible Isaac born about 1740, but no documentation on these two... I also thought I would share the following. I am hopeful it relates to my Thomas Noble, but I haven't been able to find any links yet. I was sent this from the Nabb Center: Files\Content.IE5\BWA2UJ27\07-08-31_Noble-Davis-Kinder; notes from Nabb Research center Allen Twiford 2.The original Noble [given name unknown] arrived c. 1650 in Maryland and moved to Dorchester County to settle on the patent of John Richards who held the patent from William Penn. [?timing issue? PA in 1689], pg. 22. 3.#6 updated in 1975 to identify the first US Noble as Thomas [b. circa1640-d.1708] who arrived in Talbot County, MD, [circa 1674] married to a Joane. Thank you, Gwen -------------- Original message -------------- From: <joslake@sbcglobal.net> > Barb --- There was a Janet Noble who married a second generation desc (Samuel) > of > the Samuel Hopkins, spouse Hannah Turner who came to Somerset Co MD c1680. > > Here's what I have on that Somerset Co Samuel: > > 1) Samuel and Janet Noble (V12, Col. Families) Hopkins: Children: Samuel; > (unk) m > Ezekiel Wise; John; Josiah; William. > > > > You're probably familiar with that. It was taken from V12, Col. Fams. of the > Eastern > Shore of MD. Obviously the children of the 1741 Will Samuel and the above > children > don't match ?? > > > > Joe > > > > > Joe and List, > > > > I have wondered if the name might be Jenet. Perhaps the transcriber took > > the fancy J for a T? I have come up with the possibility that Tenet may be > > Jennet Noble, daughter of William. > > > > I'm very interested in any or all of the people listed in the following two > > documents: > > > > > > Sussex Co., DE Wills > > Prim Name: Samuel Hopkins, Sr., Yeoman > > Admin Name: > > Will Made Date: 06 Mar 1741 > > Will Loc: > > Heirs Name: wife Tenat Hopkins; sons William and Samuel Hopkins; daus. > > Marg[a]ret, Ann and Jean Hopkins > > Exec/Trus Name: friends Archabald Hopkins and Robert Neill > > Wit Name: William Hopkins, Richard Loucom > > Will Probate Date: 15 Apr 1741 > > Will Book: Arch. vol. A78; Reg. of Wills, Liber A > > Page: 20; folios 328-329 > > > > "Abstracts of the Administration Accounts of the Prerogative Court of Md. > > Lib 1-5 1718-1724" by V. L. Skinner, Jr. > > Page 97, > > Gideon Tillman > > Payments to: Mr Daniel Maccloister, Charles Ballard, Thomas Bardley, and > > Samuel Hopkins; > > vol 4, Liber 112 Administration, payments totaling slightly more than 100 > > pounds Issued Mar 13, 1721. > > > > > > MARYLAND CALENDAR OF WILLS: Volume 3 > > Noble, William, Sr.,Somerset Co.,8th Mch., 1708-9; 7th June, 1709. > > To son William, 12 pence. > > To dau. Jennet Hopkins, personalty. > > To wife Eliza:, extx., residue of estate, real and personal, excepting > > certain personalty already given to son Jonathan. > > To son James, dwelling plantation at decease of his mother. > > Test: Mary Starrett, Robt. Mills, Jonathan Noble. > > Part 2-12. 167. > > > > Barb > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > > joslake@sbcglobal.net > > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 2:53 AM > > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [LDR] Colonial period Given Names for females > > > > John .... The testator was Samuel Hopkins [just one of the many :-) ], will > > dated > > 1741 and a resident of original (never a part of MD) Sussex Co. (possibly > > Broadkill > > Hundred near Milton) per the will. > > > > "Senith" is a completely new name to me (and I just went thru a > > colonial/biblical > > names site which Google found for me) but it might very well match the > > penciled > > notation on the Dover Archives typewritten copy of the 1741 will which the > > will > > typist or editor saw & pencilled as "Senot" (after typing Tenot). > > > > Just "for the record" .... there is a possibility that Samuel and Senot (or > > Tenot) > > were married in Albany Co NY (which I'm presently trying to confirm, or > > not). > > > > Good lead. Thanks. Joe L. > > > > > > My own initial speculation on seeing your question was, like Elizabeth's, > > that the > > name entered might have been "Senith", sometimes seen for "Asenath". But, > > insufficient data. Who was the testator? Some of us out here in LDR land > > might have > > an odd record (or 10,000) which might help... > > > > John > > > > wrote: > > > >>If "Tenat" has a Biblical era association, it might come from the word > > "tenet(s)". > >>It could come from a variety of places I suppose, including Asenath, but > > those two > >>words do not seem to have an association, to me?? But definitely no expert > > I ..... > >>that's why I sought the help of this list. :-) > > > > *************************************** > > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > *************************************** > > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > *************************************** > > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? 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    09/21/2008 04:15:26
    1. Re: [LDR] Colonial period Given Names for females
    2. Gwen Hignutt-Wint
    3. Barb and Joe, Do you have further descendants of this William Noble? My Noble family has several Williams, but I only have found back to Thomas Noble born around 1795 and died about 1850. Thomas m. Elizabeth Morrison in 1818 and they had 7 children; William, Philip, Thomas, Clement, Sarah E., Rebecca A. and Mary Emily Noble. I have Thomas' possible father as Philip b. appx.1765 with his father possible Isaac born about 1740, but no documentation on these two... I also thought I would share the following. I am hopeful it relates to my Thomas Noble, but I haven't been able to find any links yet. I was sent this from the Nabb Center: Files\Content.IE5\BWA2UJ27\07-08-31_Noble-Davis-Kinder; notes from Nabb Research center Allen Twiford 2.The original Noble [given name unknown] arrived c. 1650 in Maryland and moved to Dorchester County to settle on the patent of John Richards who held the patent from William Penn. [?timing issue? PA in 1689], pg. 22. 3.#6 updated in 1975 to identify the first US Noble as Thomas [b. circa1640-d.1708] who arrived in Talbot County, MD, [circa 1674] married to a Joane. Thank you, Gwen -------------- Original message -------------- From: <joslake@sbcglobal.net> > Barb --- There was a Janet Noble who married a second generation desc (Samuel) > of > the Samuel Hopkins, spouse Hannah Turner who came to Somerset Co MD c1680. > > Here's what I have on that Somerset Co Samuel: > > 1) Samuel and Janet Noble (V12, Col. Families) Hopkins: Children: Samuel; > (unk) m > Ezekiel Wise; John; Josiah; William. > > > > You're probably familiar with that. It was taken from V12, Col. Fams. of the > Eastern > Shore of MD. Obviously the children of the 1741 Will Samuel and the above > children > don't match ?? > > > > Joe > > > > > Joe and List, > > > > I have wondered if the name might be Jenet. Perhaps the transcriber took > > the fancy J for a T? I have come up with the possibility that Tenet may be > > Jennet Noble, daughter of William. > > > > I'm very interested in any or all of the people listed in the following two > > documents: > > > > > > Sussex Co., DE Wills > > Prim Name: Samuel Hopkins, Sr., Yeoman > > Admin Name: > > Will Made Date: 06 Mar 1741 > > Will Loc: > > Heirs Name: wife Tenat Hopkins; sons William and Samuel Hopkins; daus. > > Marg[a]ret, Ann and Jean Hopkins > > Exec/Trus Name: friends Archabald Hopkins and Robert Neill > > Wit Name: William Hopkins, Richard Loucom > > Will Probate Date: 15 Apr 1741 > > Will Book: Arch. vol. A78; Reg. of Wills, Liber A > > Page: 20; folios 328-329 > > > > "Abstracts of the Administration Accounts of the Prerogative Court of Md. > > Lib 1-5 1718-1724" by V. L. Skinner, Jr. > > Page 97, > > Gideon Tillman > > Payments to: Mr Daniel Maccloister, Charles Ballard, Thomas Bardley, and > > Samuel Hopkins; > > vol 4, Liber 112 Administration, payments totaling slightly more than 100 > > pounds Issued Mar 13, 1721. > > > > > > MARYLAND CALENDAR OF WILLS: Volume 3 > > Noble, William, Sr.,Somerset Co.,8th Mch., 1708-9; 7th June, 1709. > > To son William, 12 pence. > > To dau. Jennet Hopkins, personalty. > > To wife Eliza:, extx., residue of estate, real and personal, excepting > > certain personalty already given to son Jonathan. > > To son James, dwelling plantation at decease of his mother. > > Test: Mary Starrett, Robt. Mills, Jonathan Noble. > > Part 2-12. 167. > > > > Barb > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > > joslake@sbcglobal.net > > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 2:53 AM > > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [LDR] Colonial period Given Names for females > > > > John .... The testator was Samuel Hopkins [just one of the many :-) ], will > > dated > > 1741 and a resident of original (never a part of MD) Sussex Co. (possibly > > Broadkill > > Hundred near Milton) per the will. > > > > "Senith" is a completely new name to me (and I just went thru a > > colonial/biblical > > names site which Google found for me) but it might very well match the > > penciled > > notation on the Dover Archives typewritten copy of the 1741 will which the > > will > > typist or editor saw & pencilled as "Senot" (after typing Tenot). > > > > Just "for the record" .... there is a possibility that Samuel and Senot (or > > Tenot) > > were married in Albany Co NY (which I'm presently trying to confirm, or > > not). > > > > Good lead. Thanks. Joe L. > > > > > > My own initial speculation on seeing your question was, like Elizabeth's, > > that the > > name entered might have been "Senith", sometimes seen for "Asenath". But, > > insufficient data. Who was the testator? Some of us out here in LDR land > > might have > > an odd record (or 10,000) which might help... > > > > John > > > > wrote: > > > >>If "Tenat" has a Biblical era association, it might come from the word > > "tenet(s)". > >>It could come from a variety of places I suppose, including Asenath, but > > those two > >>words do not seem to have an association, to me?? But definitely no expert > > I ..... > >>that's why I sought the help of this list. :-) > > > > *************************************** > > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > *************************************** > > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > *************************************** > > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/20/2008 10:26:00
    1. Re: [LDR] Colonial period Given Names for females
    2. Gwen .... I have not collected any Noble research (other that noting Janet Noble married Samuel Hopkins, b 30 Aug 1669 in New Haven Colony Ct and d c1744 in Somerset Co MD as covered in V10 Colonial Families of the Eastern Shore of Maryland) Currently I don't think this is my Hopkins line and I have taken it no further. Sorry. Joe > Barb and Joe, > > Do you have further descendants of this William Noble? My Noble family has several > Williams, but I > only have found back to Thomas Noble born around 1795 and died about 1850. Thomas > m. > Elizabeth Morrison in 1818 and they had 7 children; William, Philip, Thomas, > Clement, Sarah E., Rebecca A. and Mary Emily Noble. > I have Thomas' possible father as Philip b. appx.1765 with his father possible > Isaac born about 1740, but no documentation on these two... > > I also thought I would share the following. I am hopeful it relates to my Thomas > Noble, but I haven't been able to find any links yet. > > I was sent this from the Nabb Center: > Files\Content.IE5\BWA2UJ27\07-08-31_Noble-Davis-Kinder; notes from Nabb Research > center Allen Twiford > > 2.The original Noble [given name unknown] arrived c. 1650 in Maryland and moved to > Dorchester County to settle on the patent of John Richards who held the patent from > William Penn. [?timing issue? PA in 1689], pg. 22. > 3.#6 updated in 1975 to identify the first US Noble as Thomas [b. circa1640-d.1708] > who arrived in Talbot County, MD, [circa 1674] married to a Joane. > > Thank you, > Gwen > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: <joslake@sbcglobal.net> > >> Barb --- There was a Janet Noble who married a second generation desc (Samuel) >> of >> the Samuel Hopkins, spouse Hannah Turner who came to Somerset Co MD c1680. >> >> Here's what I have on that Somerset Co Samuel: >> >> 1) Samuel and Janet Noble (V12, Col. Families) Hopkins: Children: Samuel; >> (unk) m >> Ezekiel Wise; John; Josiah; William. >> >> >> >> You're probably familiar with that. It was taken from V12, Col. Fams. of the >> Eastern >> Shore of MD. Obviously the children of the 1741 Will Samuel and the above >> children >> don't match ?? >> >> >> >> Joe >> >> >> >> > Joe and List, >> > >> > I have wondered if the name might be Jenet. Perhaps the transcriber took >> > the fancy J for a T? I have come up with the possibility that Tenet may be >> > Jennet Noble, daughter of William. >> > >> > I'm very interested in any or all of the people listed in the following two >> > documents: >> > >> > >> > Sussex Co., DE Wills >> > Prim Name: Samuel Hopkins, Sr., Yeoman >> > Admin Name: >> > Will Made Date: 06 Mar 1741 >> > Will Loc: >> > Heirs Name: wife Tenat Hopkins; sons William and Samuel Hopkins; daus. >> > Marg[a]ret, Ann and Jean Hopkins >> > Exec/Trus Name: friends Archabald Hopkins and Robert Neill >> > Wit Name: William Hopkins, Richard Loucom >> > Will Probate Date: 15 Apr 1741 >> > Will Book: Arch. vol. A78; Reg. of Wills, Liber A >> > Page: 20; folios 328-329 >> > >> > "Abstracts of the Administration Accounts of the Prerogative Court of Md. >> > Lib 1-5 1718-1724" by V. L. Skinner, Jr. >> > Page 97, >> > Gideon Tillman >> > Payments to: Mr Daniel Maccloister, Charles Ballard, Thomas Bardley, and >> > Samuel Hopkins; >> > vol 4, Liber 112 Administration, payments totaling slightly more than 100 >> > pounds Issued Mar 13, 1721. >> > >> > >> > MARYLAND CALENDAR OF WILLS: Volume 3 >> > Noble, William, Sr.,Somerset Co.,8th Mch., 1708-9; 7th June, 1709. >> > To son William, 12 pence. >> > To dau. Jennet Hopkins, personalty. >> > To wife Eliza:, extx., residue of estate, real and personal, excepting >> > certain personalty already given to son Jonathan. >> > To son James, dwelling plantation at decease of his mother. >> > Test: Mary Starrett, Robt. Mills, Jonathan Noble. >> > Part 2-12. 167. >> > >> > Barb >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com >> > [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of >> > joslake@sbcglobal.net >> > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 2:53 AM >> > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: Re: [LDR] Colonial period Given Names for females >> > >> > John .... The testator was Samuel Hopkins [just one of the many :-) ], will >> > dated >> > 1741 and a resident of original (never a part of MD) Sussex Co. (possibly >> > Broadkill >> > Hundred near Milton) per the will. >> > >> > "Senith" is a completely new name to me (and I just went thru a >> > colonial/biblical >> > names site which Google found for me) but it might very well match the >> > penciled >> > notation on the Dover Archives typewritten copy of the 1741 will which the >> > will >> > typist or editor saw & pencilled as "Senot" (after typing Tenot). >> > >> > Just "for the record" .... there is a possibility that Samuel and Senot (or >> > Tenot) >> > were married in Albany Co NY (which I'm presently trying to confirm, or >> > not). >> > >> > Good lead. Thanks. Joe L. >> > >> > >> > My own initial speculation on seeing your question was, like Elizabeth's, >> > that the >> > name entered might have been "Senith", sometimes seen for "Asenath". But, >> > insufficient data. Who was the testator? Some of us out here in LDR land >> > might have >> > an odd record (or 10,000) which might help... >> > >> > John >> > >> > wrote: >> > >> >>If "Tenat" has a Biblical era association, it might come from the word >> > "tenet(s)". >> >>It could come from a variety of places I suppose, including Asenath, but >> > those two >> >>words do not seem to have an association, to me?? But definitely no expert >> > I ..... >> >>that's why I sought the help of this list. :-) >> > >> > *************************************** >> > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >> > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >> > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > *************************************** >> > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >> > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >> > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > *************************************** >> > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >> > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >> > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> *************************************** >> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/20/2008 04:26:05
    1. Re: [LDR] MD STATE ARCHIVES
    2. John Polk
    3. Joe - I was referring to the library collections of the historical societies, as well as DAR and LOC, with respect to having their catalogs on line, not the primary document collections of MD and DE Archives. The MD Archives also has their library collection on line so you can access that. I have not tried to use the DE Archives website except in very cursory way so can't give you much advice about how to use it. Sorry - JP - ----- Original Message ----- From: <joslake@sbcglobal.net> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 5:42 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] MD STATE ARCHIVES > John Polk: You comment below that all of the named institutions have on line > catalogs, except The Nabb. > > My search (good or bad) indicates that the DE Archives in Dover have some individual > categories on line, such as their probate records, but no comprehensive catalog of > their complete holdings. > > If I'm wrong about that, could you please send me the correct URL to access their > catalog? When I go online to the DE Archives, I always start at > http://archives.delaware.gov > > Thanks, Joe Lake > > > > The return on your time investment at either of these places is very > > dependent on your preparation before arrival. The archives are mostly > > repositories of original materials and it really helps to know exactly what > > you are looking for so you are not wasting all your time ordering and > > waiting for the staff to retrieve materials that don't help. I think they > > both allow you to have three items (i.e. original documents, not microfilms) > > at a time - if you are looking at these, it is important to submit your next > > order slip as soon as you return an item, so that you are not sitting idly > > at the the table waiting for something to come back from the stacks. > > > > Depending on how far you have progressed in your research you may want to > > consider going to the the DAR Library, the Library of Congress, the > > Maryland Historical Society (Baltimore), the Historical Society of > > Pennsylvania (Philadelphia) or the Historical Society of Delaware > > (Wilmington), and of course the Nabb center. All of these places have > > excellent collections of published county and family histories in which the > > work of previous researchers (of varying degrees of scholarship of course) > > have been collected and presented. It is amazing how far you can advance at > > the early stages of your research into particular lines by using these > > resources. I think they all have online catalogs, except for the Nabb > > Center, so you can prepare in advance to access specific items when you get > > there. You can also accomplish much just by browsing the shelves, which is > > what I usually get sucked into. If you have not done a thorough job of > > consulting previous research then you will probably just be treading over > > previously trod ground in your visits to the Archives. Your visits there > > should focus on validation of the published secondary and tertiary materials > > and retrieving new materials that haven't already been unearthed. > > > > Both the Maryland and Delaware Archives do have libraries with some > > collections of secondary materials, but that is not their forte. The > > historical societies are better at this. The Maryland Archives library is > > mostly in stacks not open to the public but portions of it are in the main > > public area, including the family histories section. > > > > John Polk > > Havre de Grace MD > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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