I have a 'General Highway Map' of Sussex County put out by the Delaware Dept. of Highways and it has a remarkable number of creeks on it... many of the names are the same today as in colonial days due to their official use as boundary markers. It is available at the Dept. of Highways in Georgetown in that cluster of state buildings that contains the State Service Center, Division of Motor Vehicles and the Dept of Highways right by the traffic light on route 113.

Thank you Elizabeth and Bob, you saved me $$ because I was being wooed by the lazy siren of having my whole genealogy put in book form without me doing more than picking up my checkbook. Ah dreams. I knew better, just wishing. Mary Browne **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

Thanks to one and all - you were right I mistranscribed Gladstone ...... the map site was really helpful since I have never been to De and sometimes have a hard time visualizing the locations ....as usual you have risen to the challenge Thanks again Carol

There was a Gladstones Branch mentioned in some patents in Dorchester. Perhaps your "Glad flows" might just be a mistranscription for that. I believe this is now Herring Run which runs into the Nanticoke from the NW, just east of Seaford. John Polk ----- Original Message ----- From: "CarolS Jones" <grannyjo2@verizon.net> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 7:25 AM Subject: [LDR] Mapping Sussex > While we are discussing deeds et al can anyone tell where I can find a map that will show the N.E. branch of the Nanticoke and names at least some of the major creeks that run into the Nanticoke in Delaware? Along that line has anyone come across Griffith's Creek .....probably in Dorchester perhaps off the N.W. branch of the Nanticoke? > I am also looking for John's Branch and Glad flows branch both said to connect to the Nanticoke. > > I found online a US Army Corps of Engineers map that show part of the Nanticoke up to Seaford but nothing farther north > Carol > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

www.terraserver.com maps site -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just read your server error message so clicked to check for myself. Try clicking w/o retyping from either my own or John's message; worked fine for me. Try again later when that happens; I have trouble with my telly when there's a thunderstorm anywhere within living memory! (Electronics: love 'em or hate 'em but we've all got 'em!) LOL Ruth

Could Griffith Branch be the modern Griffith Lake? This is located on the Sussex/Kent County line South west of Milford. Just south of Griffith Lake is a Johnson Branch. In a message dated 10/1/2008 11:35:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lisa_just@comcast.net writes: Carol - Could it be "Gladstones Branch"? It is in my records with a transfer of a land tract called "Forked Neck" from Christopher and Sarah Newton to James Smith in 1755. That tract is described as on the "north side of the easternmost prong of Gladstone Branch that makes out of the North East Fork" of the Nanticoke. Lisa -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "CarolS Jones" <grannyjo2@verizon.net> > While we are discussing deeds et al can anyone tell where I can find a map that > will show the N.E. branch of the Nanticoke and names at least some of the major > creeks that run into the Nanticoke in Delaware? Along that line has anyone > come across Griffith's Creek .....probably in Dorchester perhaps off the N.W. > branch of the Nanticoke? > I am also looking for John's Branch and Glad flows branch both said to connect > to the Nanticoke. > > I found online a US Army Corps of Engineers map that show part of the Nanticoke > up to Seaford but nothing farther north > Carol > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

Could Glad Flows Branch be the modern Glade Branch? This Branch comes off the Nanticoke River a little south of Greenwood. It crosses Sugar Hill Road and then turns north. It crosses Saint Johnstown Rd and then joins together with Long Branch before crossing Rt 16 (Beach Highway). In a message dated 10/1/2008 11:35:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lisa_just@comcast.net writes: Carol - Could it be "Gladstones Branch"? It is in my records with a transfer of a land tract called "Forked Neck" from Christopher and Sarah Newton to James Smith in 1755. That tract is described as on the "north side of the easternmost prong of Gladstone Branch that makes out of the North East Fork" of the Nanticoke. Lisa -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "CarolS Jones" <grannyjo2@verizon.net> > While we are discussing deeds et al can anyone tell where I can find a map that > will show the N.E. branch of the Nanticoke and names at least some of the major > creeks that run into the Nanticoke in Delaware? Along that line has anyone > come across Griffith's Creek .....probably in Dorchester perhaps off the N.W. > branch of the Nanticoke? > I am also looking for John's Branch and Glad flows branch both said to connect > to the Nanticoke. > > I found online a US Army Corps of Engineers map that show part of the Nanticoke > up to Seaford but nothing farther north > Carol > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

I have seen such books (usually at Good Will) and they contain nothing you cannot find quite easily all by yourself. Elizabeth **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

Years ago someone put out a book on the KNOTTS surname. I never saw one, but one of my relatives bought one and said the most notable thing abt it was that the phone number and name of abt every KNOTTS in the US was in it---and not much else! Bob K ----- Original Message ----- From: <EMSCRS@aol.com> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] Surname Trackeer for Stringer -- Genealogy Today >I have seen such books (usually at Good Will) and they contain nothing you > cannot find quite easily all by yourself. > > Elizabeth > > > > **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial > challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips > and > calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Surname Tracker for STRINGER -- Genealogy Today sent me the following message, althought it was longer than this. I wondered if any of you had seen emails like this. I just don't want to buy a book that is pretty much worthless. Does anyone know? A message from Amazon.com: The STRINGER Name in History is a customized book offering a unique blend of fascinating facts, statistics and commentary about the STRINGER name. The book is just one of an entire series of family name books in the Our Name in History collection. To purchase this book, visit _http://gentod.com/click.mv?AZ=B000W1BKTC_ (http://gentod.com/click.mv?AZ=B000W1BKTC) With thanks, Mary Browne **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

Carol - Could it be "Gladstones Branch"? It is in my records with a transfer of a land tract called "Forked Neck" from Christopher and Sarah Newton to James Smith in 1755. That tract is described as on the "north side of the easternmost prong of Gladstone Branch that makes out of the North East Fork" of the Nanticoke. Lisa -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "CarolS Jones" <grannyjo2@verizon.net> > While we are discussing deeds et al can anyone tell where I can find a map that > will show the N.E. branch of the Nanticoke and names at least some of the major > creeks that run into the Nanticoke in Delaware? Along that line has anyone > come across Griffith's Creek .....probably in Dorchester perhaps off the N.W. > branch of the Nanticoke? > I am also looking for John's Branch and Glad flows branch both said to connect > to the Nanticoke. > > I found online a US Army Corps of Engineers map that show part of the Nanticoke > up to Seaford but nothing farther north > Carol > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oops. I gave you a bum address. Sorry 'bout that. Go to www.terraserver-usa.com John GB415104@aol.com wrote: >Hi John, > >When I type in the URL you cited below, I get a page which says I have   >reached there because of a 'server error." What now? > >George Bacon > > > >Try www.terraserver.com > >and type in a place name.  You'll  get an image from the USGS quad >surrounding the point, and can scroll and zoom  to your heart's content. > >Linking ancient names to the modern is the Great  Game. > >John >*************************************** >QUESTIONS about  POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >Visit The Lower DelMarVa  Roots Mailing List  FAQ: >http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >------------------------------- >To  unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to   >LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without  the quotes in the >subject and the body of the  message > > > > >**************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial >challenges?  Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and >calculators.      (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) >*************************************** >QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

John Lyon: Thanks for the comments/clarification. Clearly a more orderly procedure than what I had perceived, and which is apparently verified by the lack of any such "foreign" deeds in my limited searching. I did read with interest but selectively (maybe a third of it) in "Breviate" when the discussion was on the list recently. "Nearest courthouse" came from some Virginia reading, and I may have interpreted it too broadly there also. Well, live and (hopefully) learn. Your comments actually simplify the search process for me ("results" from the process are a different matter). Thanks again for the clarification. Joe Lake john lyon wrote: > I’m not clear on how you derived “nearest courthouse” as a criterion for > recordation of deeds as being suggested by the Lewes site’s rundown. Deeds were > recorded in the venue (county and Province) where people paid their taxes. This > was in Maryland counties for those in the “disputed” parts of Delaware resolved by > the Mason-Dixon survey, et al. The article says nothing different. You won’t > find “Delaware” (Pennsylvania) residents (as they perceived it at that time) > recording deeds in MD. > > That said, after 1750 or so, I do find a few (very, very few, like less than ten) > cases of a “Marylander” recording his deed in both Worcester (or Dorchester) and > Sussex. The deeds acknowledge the boundary issue, and are clear that the deed > holder simply wanted to make sure his bases were covered for clear title, whatever > happened to the border. These people clearly knew what was coming down. > > The above also said, I see no deeds at all by “then-Sussex” residents also (or > instead) filing in MD counties because of any confusion. > > A small exception: in the early 1680s, some Penn warrants were granted south of the > Indian River. Within a couple of years, though, Maryland just barged in and > re-issued patents overlaying some of those (and the others just vanished into > oblivion, it seems). All this is discussed in the “Breviate”, as explored a few > months back in the thread on list here. The Penns took no further specific action > except the continuing overall court cases against the Calverts on the boundary. > Later on, I see nothing at all in which Penn surveyors and Calvert surveyors were > unambigously fussing with any continuing effect over the same ground. The border > was a "practical" agreement locally, no matter what was going on in the sky above > where the Proprietors debated in their powdered wigs, sniffing their snuff. > > John > <joslake@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >>The premise (as more or less restated in the Lewes Hist. Society paragraph above): >>Colonial Americans in all states sometimes filed legal documents in the nearest >>county seat whether or not it was "their" legal county seat. And in MD/DE with the >>border disputes and attendant confusion that tendency should have been even more >>prevalent. >

Hi John, When I type in the URL you cited below, I get a page which says I have reached there because of a 'server error." What now? George Bacon Try www.terraserver.com and type in a place name. You'll get an image from the USGS quad surrounding the point, and can scroll and zoom to your heart's content. Linking ancient names to the modern is the Great Game. John *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

"CarolS Jones" <grannyjo2@verizon.net> wrote: >While we are discussing deeds et al can anyone tell where I can find a map that will show the N.E. branch of the Nanticoke and names at least some of the major creeks that run into the Nanticoke in Delaware?   __________ Try www.terraserver.com and type in a place name. You'll get an image from the USGS quad surrounding the point, and can scroll and zoom to your heart's content. Linking ancient names to the modern is the Great Game. John

<joslake@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >The premise (as more or less restated in the Lewes Hist. Society paragraph above): Colonial Americans in all states sometimes filed legal documents in the nearest county seat whether or not it was "their" legal county seat.  And in MD/DE with the border disputes and attendant confusion that tendency should have been even more prevalent. _______________________________________ I’m not clear on how you derived “nearest courthouse” as a criterion for recordation of deeds as being suggested by the Lewes site’s rundown. Deeds were recorded in the venue (county and Province) where people paid their taxes. This was in Maryland counties for those in the “disputed” parts of Delaware resolved by the Mason-Dixon survey, et al. The article says nothing different. You won’t find “Delaware” (Pennsylvania) residents (as they perceived it at that time) recording deeds in MD. That said, after 1750 or so, I do find a few (very, very few, like less than ten) cases of a “Marylander” recording his deed in both Worcester (or Dorchester) and Sussex. The deeds acknowledge the boundary issue, and are clear that the deed holder simply wanted to make sure his bases were covered for clear title, whatever happened to the border. These people clearly knew what was coming down. The above also said, I see no deeds at all by “then-Sussex” residents also (or instead) filing in MD counties because of any confusion. A small exception: in the early 1680s, some Penn warrants were granted south of the Indian River. Within a couple of years, though, Maryland just barged in and re-issued patents overlaying some of those (and the others just vanished into oblivion, it seems). All this is discussed in the “Breviate”, as explored a few months back in the thread on list here. The Penns took no further specific action except the continuing overall court cases against the Calverts on the boundary. Later on, I see nothing at all in which Penn surveyors and Calvert surveyors were unambigously fussing with any continuing effect over the same ground. The border was a "practical" agreement locally, no matter what was going on in the sky above where the Proprietors debated in their powdered wigs, sniffing their snuff. John

While we are discussing deeds et al can anyone tell where I can find a map that will show the N.E. branch of the Nanticoke and names at least some of the major creeks that run into the Nanticoke in Delaware? Along that line has anyone come across Griffith's Creek .....probably in Dorchester perhaps off the N.W. branch of the Nanticoke? I am also looking for John's Branch and Glad flows branch both said to connect to the Nanticoke. I found online a US Army Corps of Engineers map that show part of the Nanticoke up to Seaford but nothing farther north Carol

To the list, but espy. to John Lyon: Bottom line, this isn't really a new question at all, but I'll point out a "result" (loosely translated) which calls a premise into question (not for long, I'm sure, when/if John provides a response): The following paragraph is copied verbatim, in total, from the Lewes Historical Society Internet site: Here's the URL: http://www.historiclewes.org/research/papers/capedispute.html "Modern place-names still reflect the conflicting claims made by the Penn and Calvert families. For instance, Baltimore Hundred, along Sussex County's southern boundary with Maryland, is a holdover from a time when the Calvert family exerted greater political control over parts of Sussex County. Many genealogical records, land deeds and other official records from these parts of Sussex County from the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries are stored in archives in the adjacent Caroline, Dorchester, Talbot, Wicomico, and Worchester Counties of Maryland. Maps of Delmarva from the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries show various names for the modern geographic feature known as Cape Henlopen. Names such as Cape James, Cape Cornelius, Cape Hinlopen and Cape Henlopen dot these maps. As stated above, the Cape Henlopen dispute began over confusion of the location of the true Cape Henlopen; it began with a misuderstanding of Swedish grammar." Recently I decided to bite the bullet and search the MD Land Records Net, in the counties above (excepting Wicomico and Worcester, since I'd already looked there). I'm looking only for the surname Hopkins. There were other Hopkins families in those counties and I'm finding their land transactions but those transactions are not with the familiar Sussex County names which I've been learning for the past year. I will go back and inspect individual documents, but I have the feeling I'm "spinning the wheels". I searched from c1662 (approx) in all cases, including parent counties when a county wasn't an "original" county. The premise (as more or less restated in the Lewes Hist. Society paragraph above): Colonial Americans in all states sometimes filed legal documents in the nearest county seat whether or not it was "their" legal county seat. And in MD/DE with the border disputes and attendant confusion that tendency should have been even more prevalent. Before I burn any more rubber, I wonder if it seems strange to anyone else that I haven't yet found a single document (Hopkins only) which seems to have been filed by the Sussex people? I've actually looked in Dorchester (the best prospect, I thought), Caroline (parent Queen Anne) & Talbot (Talbot was also parent to Queen Ann). Thanks, Joe Lake

The town of Snow Hill is the County Seat of Worcester County, Maryland. There is a court house there though not the original (due to fire). Hope this helps you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary" <mydesire@gulftel.com> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 12:30 PM Subject: [LDR] Snow Hill, which state > Ok, I'm a late comer and is Snow Hill an old town and was it the court > house > of a county? > Mary in Alabama > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Elaine Sunde" <elaine@sunde3.com> > To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 8:47 PM > Subject: *****SPAM***** [LDR] 1833 lawsuit FOOKES, BROWN, DIXON > > >> The Snow Hill Messenger, November 1833, reported a sheriff's sale, >> stemming from a lawsuit between Joseph C. FOOKES and David & Jesse BROWN. >> Two tracts, Mills Supply and Safe Guard, as well as the adjacent farm of >> William DIXON, were involved. The legal notice is brief and I can't sort >> out the details. >> >> Does anyone know of an online or print source for additional information >> about civil suits in this period?? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Elaine > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1698 - Release Date: 9/29/2008 7:25 PM

Yes....Worcester, in Maryland. ...and it still is :D -Jennifer > Ok, I'm a late comer and is Snow Hill an old town and was it the court > house > of a county? > Mary in Alabama > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Elaine Sunde" <elaine@sunde3.com> > To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 8:47 PM > Subject: *****SPAM***** [LDR] 1833 lawsuit FOOKES, BROWN, DIXON > > >> The Snow Hill Messenger, November 1833, reported a sheriff's sale, >> stemming from a lawsuit between Joseph C. FOOKES and David & Jesse >> BROWN. >> Two tracts, Mills Supply and Safe Guard, as well as the adjacent farm of >> William DIXON, were involved. The legal notice is brief and I can't >> sort >> out the details. >> >> Does anyone know of an online or print source for additional information >> about civil suits in this period?? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Elaine > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Jennifer E. Nesbitt Administrative Assistant Clifton M. Miller Library Washington College 300 Washington Avenue Chestertown, MD 21620 jnesbitt2@washcoll.edu (410)778-7292