Hello List, This seems like a good time to get this onto the list and into the list archives. Joseph MARVEL of Nanticoke Hundred, also left land to his brother Phillip, in his 1786 will. >>To brother Phillip Marvel - a tract called Spicers Purchase containing 50 acres. Also my plantation and dwelling house and a tract of 13 acres that my father bought of Robert Moody. Also a tract called Wrankins Beginning containing 181 acres. << I recently found the deed where Joseph MARVEL purchased the tract "Spicers Purchase" in Worcester County, MD land records. 6 Aug 1771 John CONWAY sold "Spicers Purchase" to Joseph MARVEL, 43 3/4 acres, cost was 18 pounds. Spicers Purchase was near the head of Raccoon Swamp on the side of a road that leads from Indian River to Gravelly Branch. (present day Sussex Co., DE) A Robert MARVEL bought the tract called "Lynn", 13 acres in 1762 from Robert MOODY. I assume that Joseph Marvel was at least 21 years old when he bought Spicer's Purchase in 1771. That would give him a birthdate of 1750 or before. His father, Robert MARVEL, is supposed to have been born in 1737 as presented in most Marvel genealogies. This would mean that Robert Marvel was 13 when he fathered Joseph Marvel. Not likely. I think that the Robert MARVEL who appears in the Somerset Tax lists in 1739 as a dependent in the household of Paris CHIPMAN of Nanticoke Hundred and has an approximate birth date of 1720, is a much more likely candidate as Joseph's father. Robert MARVEL first appears in the Somerset Tax lists in 1736 in the household of Thomas MARVILL. The birthdates of the children of Thomas MARVEL and Elizabeth HUGGINS are in the Stepney Parish records and they do not match the Marvels in the Somerset tax list. The names match but not the dates. How reliable are the birth dates in the Stepney Parish records? Has anyone been able to prove any substantial inaccuracies? I know that the early dates were recorded years after the occurence. That does raise suspicions and makes me think I should view Stepney Parish records more like a bible record. At least in the earlier years. Nanette **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025)
HI Kari, I am interested in any possible references to the name Vaughan prior to 1689. Thanks, Ed Vaughn Barb Holmes wrote: >Kari, > >I'm especially interested in the Holmes and Hurlocks as listed in the >following: >Citizens of the Eastern Shore of Maryland 1659-1750 F. Edward Wright >Page 28 >Mill Hundred >A List of Taxables in Talbot County 1733 >... > >James Hurlock, George Hurlock, Robert Holms/3... >...Ralph Holms/1... > >Thank you' > >Barb > >-----Original Message----- >From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com >[mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kari Farnell >Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:36 AM >To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com >Subject: [LDR] talbot county look-ups > >Dear List, > >I have recently obtained the following books: "Talbot County Will >Abstracts, 1744-1753", "index to Talbot County Maryland Wills, 1662-1777", >and "Index to Talbot County, Maryland Marriages, 1657-91, 1728-51, and 1781" >I am willing to do look-ups for these books. > >Kari Andrew Farnell >researching Andrew, Lomax, Appel, Fischbach >*************************************** >QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >*************************************** >QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >
Hi Cree, Thanks for being so long winded as I need all the small details to figure out these Marvel land questions! Very helpful information. I am familiar with the plat map on D. Mitchell Jones's website and it fits with everything I know about the Marvels. I would say then that the land Joseph MARVEL refers to in his 1786 will to his brothers, Thomas and Robert, is definitely not in Broad Creek Hundred. He did also have a court case over land with the BEVANS family that shows at least some of the BEVINS land to be in Indian River Hundred. Liber N No. 13 folio 38 Award in division of lands, 31 May 1783, between Mary BEVINS and Joseph MARVEL: Dispute between BEVINS & MARVEL over land of which they are each part owners; John BEAVANS, late of Sussex deceased, owned 49 acres in Indian River Hundred & his son John BEAVANS inherited it & and it was sold at sheriff's auction by Rhoads Shankland during ownership, to Joseph MARVEL; but Elizabeth BEAVANS, widow of of John deceased has 1/3 dower right to land. Divided by arbitrators Abraham ADAMS, Joshua COSTON, Robt WATSON MCCALLEY of Sussex: 17 acres of westernmost end benefit of 1/3 apple orchard during her life to Mary BEAVANS + payment of cost of MARVEL laying her 1/3 land. Witness: Eli McCalley, Betsy Macally (Abstract from Land Records of Sussex County, Delaware 1782-1789 by Elaine M. Mason and F. Edward Wright, p.6) There is one issue not related to the Newbold and Bevans question, but there was also a Miery Branch in Broad Creek Hundred, between Concord and Laurel and I have wondered if one of the Marvel deeds that mention Miery Branch refer to land in Broad Creek Hundred but so far I have not been able to make that work. All Marvel deeds that mention Miery Branch do seem to be in the Sheeppen Branch - Millsboro area. Thanks again, Nanette In a message dated 12/20/2008 3:04:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, lower-delmarva-roots-request@rootsweb.com writes: Message: 3 Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 22:49:03 -0600 From: "Cree & Susan Newbold" <newbold@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [LDR] Joseph MARVEL, died 1786 To: <LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <4EC827CF1D954FE8929EEFF97BB6B40F@CreeNewDell> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello Nanette -- The "Widow NEWBOLD" referred to Margaret NEWBOLD, widow of William NEWBOLD who died about May 1 1777. Margaret NEWBOLD, the former Margaret POPE, lived until May of 1789, when she died. They had 5 children I know of: --Thomas Newbold, who died young --Margaret Newbold, who married Joshua Ingram --Esther Newbold, who married first John Thorougood, and 2nd William Rodney --Mary Newbold, who married Robert Hood --William Newbold, whose wife was "Mary", probably Mary Darby The late D. Mitchell Jones did a lot of research on families who lived in and around Sheep Pen branch, a watercourse flowing into the Indian River just northeast of present day Millsboro Delaware. His web site is still online, and if you go to http://dmitchelljones.org/plat1.htm you will find a plat map he drew showing the various properties there, including several labeled "Wm Newbold", which either referred to William the elder or his son. One of the plots on Mitchell's map was a 540 acre plot owned by Thomas Marvel. A David Marvel also owned a tract on his map. It is a logical speculation that one of the NEWBOLD identified tracts on his map could have been the one referred to as the "Widow Newbold's" in the 1786 Will you quoted. As to where NEWBOLDs were in Sussex County during the last quarter of the 18th century: William NEWBOLD Jr and his sisters were clustered in and around Dagsboro Hundred as you found, probably in and around SHEEP PEN Branch. William NEWBOLD Jr. died in 1800 and had no direct heirs -- his lands were largely divided amongst his sisters and their children. James NEWBOLD and his brother William NEWBOLD lived on land inherited from their father, Captain John NEWBOLD [died 1760] near present day Rehobeth Beach. James NEWBOLD owned land adjacent to what it now known as Silver Lake in Rehobeth Beach --- between the 1770s and at least until 1868 when the Beers Atlas of Delaware was published, this body of water was known as "Newbold's Freshwater Lake" or "Newbold's Pond" [before 1770 it was known as "Rhoades Pond"]. When James NEWBOLD died in 1831 the land was sold off, as he had no heirs. Francis NEWBOLD and his descendants lived on land near present day COVERDALE CROSSROADS, near the NANTICOKE River north of Gravelly Branch. Francis NEWBOLD Sr. died in 1777; his 3 sons, Francis Jr., John, and Thomas, were all deceased by 1785. Francis Jr. had a son David born in 1776, who owned some land in Broad Creek Hundred associated with a William Tulley. David sold and moved to Kentucky by 1807. John had a son Purnell and daughter Sarah -- Purnell died in 1792, and Sarah sold her inherited land in 1793. Thomas has 2 sons, George and Francis. They remained in Nanticoke Hundred on land inherited and purchased until around 1817 for Francis, and 1819 for George. Both moved to the same area of Kentucky that their cousin David lived. Sorry to be long winded, but always enjoy the opportunity to "put my stuff out there" in hopes others might be able to "add to the pile". And always willing to help when I can. Cheers, Cree Newbold -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ImNetz@aol.com Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 9:41 PM To: LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDR] Joseph MARVEL, died 1786 Hello List, This is another possibility for the origin of the 193 acre farm in Broad Creek Hundred formerly belonging to Joseph MARVEL that William "Big Billy" leaves to his son William James MARVEL in his 1847 will. The 1786 will of Joseph MARVEL of Nanticoke Hundred reads in part: To brother Thomas MARVEL - all my right and title to that where the Widow BEAVINS now lives being all that is on the south side of the county road that leads to the Widow NEWBOLD's. Also my right and title to the lands where Ezekiel BEAVINS now lives. To brother Robert MARVEL - all that land that is on the northeast side of the same county road that leads to NEWBOLD's being the land that belonged to the BEAVINses and the place where Thomas MARVEL (son of Thomas) now lives. Were there any NEWBOLDs or BEAVINS/BEVANS who owned land in Broad Creek Hundred? I have only found them in Dagsboro Hundred so far. Thanks for any and all help! Nanette **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025)
Hello Nanette -- The "Widow NEWBOLD" referred to Margaret NEWBOLD, widow of William NEWBOLD who died about May 1 1777. Margaret NEWBOLD, the former Margaret POPE, lived until May of 1789, when she died. They had 5 children I know of: --Thomas Newbold, who died young --Margaret Newbold, who married Joshua Ingram --Esther Newbold, who married first John Thorougood, and 2nd William Rodney --Mary Newbold, who married Robert Hood --William Newbold, whose wife was "Mary", probably Mary Darby The late D. Mitchell Jones did a lot of research on families who lived in and around Sheep Pen branch, a watercourse flowing into the Indian River just northeast of present day Millsboro Delaware. His web site is still online, and if you go to http://dmitchelljones.org/plat1.htm you will find a plat map he drew showing the various properties there, including several labeled "Wm Newbold", which either referred to William the elder or his son. One of the plots on Mitchell's map was a 540 acre plot owned by Thomas Marvel. A David Marvel also owned a tract on his map. It is a logical speculation that one of the NEWBOLD identified tracts on his map could have been the one referred to as the "Widow Newbold's" in the 1786 Will you quoted. As to where NEWBOLDs were in Sussex County during the last quarter of the 18th century: William NEWBOLD Jr and his sisters were clustered in and around Dagsboro Hundred as you found, probably in and around SHEEP PEN Branch. William NEWBOLD Jr. died in 1800 and had no direct heirs -- his lands were largely divided amongst his sisters and their children. James NEWBOLD and his brother William NEWBOLD lived on land inherited from their father, Captain John NEWBOLD [died 1760] near present day Rehobeth Beach. James NEWBOLD owned land adjacent to what it now known as Silver Lake in Rehobeth Beach --- between the 1770s and at least until 1868 when the Beers Atlas of Delaware was published, this body of water was known as "Newbold's Freshwater Lake" or "Newbold's Pond" [before 1770 it was known as "Rhoades Pond"]. When James NEWBOLD died in 1831 the land was sold off, as he had no heirs. Francis NEWBOLD and his descendants lived on land near present day COVERDALE CROSSROADS, near the NANTICOKE River north of Gravelly Branch. Francis NEWBOLD Sr. died in 1777; his 3 sons, Francis Jr., John, and Thomas, were all deceased by 1785. Francis Jr. had a son David born in 1776, who owned some land in Broad Creek Hundred associated with a William Tulley. David sold and moved to Kentucky by 1807. John had a son Purnell and daughter Sarah -- Purnell died in 1792, and Sarah sold her inherited land in 1793. Thomas has 2 sons, George and Francis. They remained in Nanticoke Hundred on land inherited and purchased until around 1817 for Francis, and 1819 for George. Both moved to the same area of Kentucky that their cousin David lived. Sorry to be long winded, but always enjoy the opportunity to "put my stuff out there" in hopes others might be able to "add to the pile". And always willing to help when I can. Cheers, Cree Newbold -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ImNetz@aol.com Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 9:41 PM To: LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDR] Joseph MARVEL, died 1786 Hello List, This is another possibility for the origin of the 193 acre farm in Broad Creek Hundred formerly belonging to Joseph MARVEL that William "Big Billy" leaves to his son William James MARVEL in his 1847 will. The 1786 will of Joseph MARVEL of Nanticoke Hundred reads in part: To brother Thomas MARVEL - all my right and title to that where the Widow BEAVINS now lives being all that is on the south side of the county road that leads to the Widow NEWBOLD's. Also my right and title to the lands where Ezekiel BEAVINS now lives. To brother Robert MARVEL - all that land that is on the northeast side of the same county road that leads to NEWBOLD's being the land that belonged to the BEAVINses and the place where Thomas MARVEL (son of Thomas) now lives. Were there any NEWBOLDs or BEAVINS/BEVANS who owned land in Broad Creek Hundred? I have only found them in Dagsboro Hundred so far. Thanks for any and all help! Nanette **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000 025) *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello List, This is another possibility for the origin of the 193 acre farm in Broad Creek Hundred formerly belonging to Joseph MARVEL that William "Big Billy" leaves to his son William James MARVEL in his 1847 will. The 1786 will of Joseph MARVEL of Nanticoke Hundred reads in part: To brother Thomas MARVEL - all my right and title to that where the Widow BEAVINS now lives being all that is on the south side of the county road that leads to the Widow NEWBOLD's. Also my right and title to the lands where Ezekiel BEAVINS now lives. To brother Robert MARVEL - all that land that is on the northeast side of the same county road that leads to NEWBOLD's being the land that belonged to the BEAVINses and the place where Thomas MARVEL (son of Thomas) now lives. Were there any NEWBOLDs or BEAVINS/BEVANS who owned land in Broad Creek Hundred? I have only found them in Dagsboro Hundred so far. Thanks for any and all help! Nanette **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025)
Dear List, I am exploring the possibility that Joseph MARSHALL, Blacksmith, of Worcester Co. and later Sussex Co. was actually a MARVEL. I have seen MARVEL misspelled many different ways including MARSEL. In some documents Marshall even looks like MARVHALL. Joseph MARSHALL appears in the Somerset tax list in Nanticoke Hundred in 1740 as a dependent, Joseph MEASHELL, in the household of Paris CHIPMAN, Blacksmith. That would make him born before 1725. The year before, in 1739, Robert MARVELL, is a dependent in the household of Paris CHIPMAN. Could be just a coincidence. This is obviously not the Robert MARVEL born in 1737 but a Marvel who does not fit into most of the Marvel genealogies that are floating around. That's a discussion for another time. No other Marshalls show up in Nanticoke Hundred tax lists before 1742 so where did Joseph MARSHALL come from? I believe Joseph married Leah DOLBY, daughter of Peter DOLBE, as Peter mentions his daughter Leah MEREHAL/MARSHALL in his 1747 will and one Joseph MARSHALL deed mentions Leah, his wife. Peter DOLBE also mentions a 10 year old grandson named Umphrey MEREHAL/MARSHALL. I was thinking that his first name might even be close to Ephraim. Ephraim and Joseph are both names used in Marvel families. Over his lifetime, Joseph MARSHALL patented, bought and sold quite a lot of land. Here are the land records I have so far for Joseph MARSHALL, Blacksmith: MD Patents (later in Broad Creek Hundred, Sussex Co. DE) Saw Mill Supply (1753): 50 acres Saw Mill Lot (1755-1756): 114 acres Middle Ground ( 1757): 3 acres Providence (1753-1769): 100 acres MD Unpatented Certificates: Forrest Grove (1753 and 1755) 52 acres Chancery (1768) 205 acres Sussex Co. Delaware Surveys: Chancery, Rounds Survey A, p. 60, 1753 (no acreage given in Tract Index) Ambition, Rounds Survey B, p. 189, 1761, (no acreage given in Tract Index) These lands were purchased by Joseph MARSHALL: p/o Cox's Performance, 29 July 1755, 100 acres, Grantor: James Windsor p/o Inclosed, 29 July 1755, 94 acres, Grantor: Day Givans Adventure, 22 June 1761, 50 acres, Grantor: Paris Chipman Isaac's Addition, 5 Oct 1763, 50 acres, Grantor: Isaac Noble Adventure (alias Friggs/Figgs Adventure), 5 Oct 1763, 150 acres, Grantor: Isaac Noble McDaniel's Ridge, 7 Jan 1764, 5 acres, Grantor: Gabriel Powell Tit for Tat, 14 Feb 1765, 50 acres, Grantor: Elijah Willis These lands were sold by Joseph MARSHALL: Saw Mill Supply, 50 acres, sold to Obed Outten in 1755 Saw and Grist Mill, sold to John Houston, Sr. bef. 15 Feb 1768, as mentioned in the will of John Houston This is probably the same as Saw Mill Lot, 118 acres, which Joseph Marshall had purchased from James Windsor. Saw Mill Lot was sold to John Houston and John Mitchell on 17 August 1763. It was patented for 114 acres. Saw Mill Lot was a 1755 resurvey and was part of Inclosed, originally containing 437 acres. Middle Ground, 3 acres, 17 Aug 1763, sold to John Houston and John Mitchell (Worc. Lib. F, f12) Providence, 100 acres, 17 Aug 1763, sold to John Houston and John Mitchell (Worc. Lib. 5, f12) p/o Coxes Performance, 100 acres, deeded from James Windsor to Joseph MARSHALL. This sale to John Houston and John Mitchell is recorded in the Worcester Co., MD deed in Liber F, f 12 dated 17 Aug 1763 This sale to John Houston is also recorded in a Sussex Bond of Obligation dated 23 Dec 1767. Adventure, 50 acres, sold 7 Oct 1765, (purchased from Paris Chipman on 2 Jun 1761) sold to John Houston Isaac's Addition, 50 acres, sold 7 Oct 1765, (purchased from Isaac Noble on 5 Oct 1763), sold to John Houston Adventure alias Figg's/Frigg's Adventure, 150 acres, sold 7 Oct 1765 (purchased from Isaac Noble on 5 Oct 1763) sold to John Houston Joseph MARSHALL owned at least 766 acres and sold 621 acres. That leaves 145-149 acres unaccounted for, not including his surveys in Delaware. He seems to have retained ownership of p/o Inclosed (94 a.), McDaniel's Ridge (5 a.), Tit for Tat (50 a.) as I have not found these sold again. These are probably questions for John Lyon, but feel free to jump in if anything sounds familiar. Where was the tract "Inclosed" located? There is a plat map with the 1728 patent (Robert GIVANS, 437 acres) and it certainly is an unusual shape! Did "Inclosed" enclose the tract ,"Cox's Performance"? I know they are near Laurel but would like to have a more exact location that I can compare to modern topo maps. And does anyone know where the tracts "McDaniel's Ridge" and "Tit for Tat" (pat. by Nathaniel WILLIS) are located? The MD Prerogative Court had a 1763 entry in Accounts for Joseph MARSHALL and I just received a copy today. Joseph is the account administrator for Thomas ADAMS, dated Aug. 4, 1763. I wondered if I was dealing with a Jr. and a Sr. Marshall because of the deed dates, but now I know they are the same person. William "Big Billy" MARVEL of Broad Creek Hundred in Sussex Co. leaves several farms to his children in his 1847 will. Most of the farms he bought over his lifetime. He also bought many smaller parcels so he enlarged some of the farms he bought. Big Billy must have been very industrious or he married vey well. Perhaps their Home Place was from his wife's family. Her name was Sarah Last Name Unknown. They lived between Laurel and Concord and with so many farms, may have moved around. Two of the farms, I cannot yet identify. One he calls the Home Place in his will and that contained 220 acres. It may include the tract "Snow Hill". That seems to be the 100 acre "Snow Hill" patented by James O'NEAL. Big Billy bought 100 acres of "Snow Hill", located 2 miles from the Broad Creek wading place, from Caleb ROSS in 1828. That seems to be near today's Chipman's Pond. The other was a 193 acre farm that formerly belonged to Joseph MARVEL. I am assuming that this Joseph MARVEL farm was located in Broad Creek Hundred as all the other farms were also. I am exploring the possibility that the 193 acre Joseph MARVEL farm includes land that was once owned by Joseph MARSHALL, Blacksmith, as his land seems to have been in same general area. I have not been able to find any deeds in which a Marvel buys land in Broad Creek Hundred before William "Big Billy" MARVEL begins buying land in 1811, after his marriage. William's father, Thomas MARVEL, loses 113 acres of land in Broad Creek Hundred in 1809 along with Ephraim MARVEL in a Sheriff's sale due to debts. Ephraim is probably a son (or a brother?) to Thomas MARVEL. In the 1803 Broad Creek Hundred tax list, Thomas MARVEL, is listed as owning 130 acres of land. How did Thomas MARVEL acquire this Broad Creek Hundred Land? If he is the son of the Thomas MARVEL who left land in 1801 to his son Thomas, "the land he now lives on", how did that Thomas MARVEL acquire the Broad Creek land? There are numerous deeds of Marvels buying land in Dagsboro, Nanticoke and Broad Kiln Hundreds. Later a few in Little Creek Hundred. My husband's Marvel ancestor was James MARVEL, son of Thomas MARVEL of Broad Creek Hundred. James MARVEL is identified as "of Thos." in the 1808 Broad Creek Hundred tax assessment list. James MARVEL was the brother of William "Big Billy" MARVEL who died in 1848. Their mother may have been Nancy KNOWLES, daughter of Richard KNOWLES, died 1791. James MARVEL died on December 13, 1840 as noted in Rev. Obed Baker's notebook. Thomas MARVEL of Broad Creek Hundred is probably the same Thomas MARVEL who died October 24, 1831 as recorded in Daniel Baker's Journal. I may be investing in some deed mapping software soon and I'm going to be at the archives in Dover after the holidays working on the Marvels for a few days but in the meantime, I would appreciate any additional information on Joseph MARSHALL, Blacksmith, that would help me prove or disprove this theory. Thanks in advance, Nanette **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025)
Joe: Alas, the 13 Dec sessions were postponed. There seemed to have been too much conflict with holiday events and plans. Not to get ahead of the Dorchester Co Historical Society's announcement of the rescheduling, it's looking like April. John <joslake@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >John Lyon .....several weeks ago, I asked an organizer of the above event re a >syllabus on your presentation and presently received your direct response that you >had tentative plans to post an outline (my interpretation) of your material (if there >was interest, and so on). > >I haven't seen any followup as yet, but this will re-confirm my interest if you find >it convenient to make the material available. > >Thanks, Joe Lake > >*************************************** >QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
John .... That's the way the cookie bounces (since they're re-scheduling, the cookie hasn't yet "crumbled"). Saturdays' weather was poor for travel in any event. I will dutifully await the re-scheduling.....thanks for the update. Joe > Joe: Alas, the 13 Dec sessions were postponed. There seemed to have been too much > conflict with holiday events and plans. Not to get ahead of the Dorchester Co > Historical Society's announcement of the rescheduling, it's looking like April. > > John > > <joslake@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >>John Lyon .....several weeks ago, I asked an organizer of the above event re a >>syllabus on your presentation and presently received your direct response that you >>had tentative plans to post an outline (my interpretation) of your material (if >>there >>was interest, and so on). >> >>I haven't seen any followup as yet, but this will re-confirm my interest if you >>find >>it convenient to make the material available. >> >>Thanks, Joe Lake >> >>*************************************** >>QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
John Lyon .....several weeks ago, I asked an organizer of the above event re a syllabus on your presentation and presently received your direct response that you had tentative plans to post an outline (my interpretation) of your material (if there was interest, and so on). I haven't seen any followup as yet, but this will re-confirm my interest if you find it convenient to make the material available. Thanks, Joe Lake
Mike Hilton.....I'm a bit late on this "comment" but since I've had the exact same experience, here's my understanding. The Sussex County DE film copies at the LDS Library, Salt Lake (basically numbers in the 6000's in my experience) are of the very poor quality (the ones I checked were not usable) which you describe. I asked the same question which you ask below, first via e-mail and then in person, of the staff at the Delaware Public Archives and they were aware of the condition described in the above paragraph. Further, the DE Public Archive has re-filmed (some or many, I'm not sure) the Sussex records and the films at Dover (the DE Public Archive) are of usable quality (the particular films in Salt Lake are not, in my opinion). I have recently been to the DE Public Archives and used a number (not all) of the Sussex County records and found them very satisfactory. This may or may not apply also to the other two DE counties. I have not checked them out. Note: Altho the Sussex films which I tried to use, in Salt Lake, were unsatisfactory, this is not a complaint re the LDS Salt Lake Library. Their physical plant and the bulk of their holdings are in excellent, well organized shape, as far as I have been able to observe in several trips there. Joe Lake ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike hilton" <jmh963@hotmail.com> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] Tract Names, William & Mary Vaughan > > John, > > I am interested in what you told Mr. Bacon. in regards to the Vaughan family. I > have worked on the Vaughan family & some other eastern shore families for a number > of years but have obviously missed a number of Vaughan deeds. > I note in your reply to Mr. Bacon that you mention several deeds regarding William > Vaughan & his wife Mary that I was not aware of [IK: 174, AZ:005, & MF: 136] and I > intend to order the relevant microfilm of the deeds. > > My problem since I live in Louisiana is that I have to rely mainly on the LDS > library for a microfilm copy of deed records in re: Somerset, Worcestor, & Sussex > County is that sometimes the microfilm copies are exceptionally poor. I was > wondering if I am actually able to make a trip to Delmarva in the next year of 2 if > the courthouse or State Archives copies of these records are more legible than the > often washed out or extremely dark LDS library copies? > > Also, I was curious since my notes do not show any other deeds for William Vaughan > & Mary for the time period say 1710-1742/3 was if you had notes on what deed books > would show transactions for William & Mary Vaughan? > Most of my deed records for this time period apply to the Cox & Smith families. I > would appreciate any insight or information you might have. > > Thank you, > > Mike Hilton >> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 07:47:19 -0500> From: Johnlyon0@cs.com> To: >> lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [LDR] Tract Names> > George: > > I >> finally glommed to the prospect you were actually asking where Bacon and Vaughan >> had been in 1735, and not about COXES DISCOVERY ...> > On the same day (02 Jul >> 1737) Dudson Bacon bought 100 ac of COXES DISCOVERY, William Vaughan had bought >> 400 ac of the same [So Deeds EI:188]. > > Before that, we find [So Deeds IK:174] >> that on 17 Nov 1721, Benjamin Nesham et ux. Mary Nesham had sold William Vaughan >> (carpenter) RICH SWAMP (150 ac) and 150 ac of the 300 ac MEECHES HOPE, which >> adjoined one another at the head of Wetipquin Creek (about 4 miles east of the >> mouth at the Nanticoke River) in now-Wicomico County (then still Somerset, and in >> Nanticoke Hundred).> > By So Deeds AZ:005, on 25 Dec 1731, Vaughan and his wife >> Mary sold half of the above to Thomas Serman. By So Deeds MF:136, on 08 Apr 1737, >> Vaughan (now named a ship carpenter)! > and Mary sold the other half to Levin Dashiell [calling it THE LEVEL LAND].> > So > that's where Vaughan (and obviously Bacon) had come from, moving up to the site on > Little Creek in 1737. > > John> > Johnlyon0@cs.com wrote:> > >GB415104@aol.com > wrote:> >>As a young man, my ancester, Dudson Bacon was a ward of William Vaughan, > the >elder. I have Maryland Tax List records of 1735 showing Dudson living in the > >household of William Vaughan but I have never known where that was. John >Lyon, I > believe I recall you having commented on Cox's Discovery in the past >although I > don't remember in what context. > >> >__________> >> >COXES DISCOVERY hugged > Little Creek south of now-Laurel, Delaware. Its northern edge was about two miles > south of Little Creek's mouth on Broad Creek and it extended about 1.7 miles south > from there, and extended about 2/3 of a mile west of Little Creek along its length. > It totaled 745 acres. It was originally surveyed on 15 May 1688 for Edward Day ! > and patented to him 04 Dec 1688 [see MD Patents B#23:134]. Dudson Bac > on acquired two parts of it from Edward Day's heir Day Scott -- 100 ac in 1735 by > So Deeds EI:187, and 145 ac in 1740 by So Deeds MF:185.> >> >Bacon also owned a few > other pieces of land opposite Little Creek, east of the above.> >> >John> > >***************************************> >QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, > SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING?> >Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ:> > >http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm> >-------------------------------> >To > unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >> > ***************************************> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, > SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING?> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ:> > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm> -------------------------------> To > unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@ro! > otsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > _________________________________________________________________ > Send e-mail faster without improving your typing skills. > http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_speed_122008 > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello All, I've added the next 10 pages to the book "Chronicles of Colonial Maryland". Also, I have scanned and uploaded the next 10 pages to the book "History of Delaware" by Walter Powell. They are both at http://www.midatlanticarchives.com Alan RESEARCHING: Buckingham, Gilpin, Eastburn, Jeanes, Nowland, Wade, Creswell, Vansant and related families
Hello George, I see you are an AOL user. From my own experience, I can tell you that the customized AOL browser seems to cause more error messages on the MSA websites. I use the plain Internet Explorer browser when I access their websites and have fewer problems. Also try the re-load button on the browser if the page does not come at first. Sometimes it takes repeated re-load tries. Persistence is the key. Eventually I have been able to access every page I wanted to see. Hope this helps, Nanette in NC In a message dated 12/10/2008 3:06:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, lower-delmarva-roots-request@rootsweb.com writes: Message: 5 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 20:09:05 EST From: GB415104@aol.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Tract Names, William & Mary Vaughan To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <c48.22984255.367070b1@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" John, This may be akin to admitting my shortcomings on the old fashioned telephone party line. But in the hope that this may help someone else, here I go. 1. After entering my User ID and Password, I went to the left side of the page where two county names were displayed and chose Somerset County. 2. On that page, I chose the option "Search Land Record Indices, 1665 - 1995". That gave me a page listing six active indices. I chose the first one: "CE160 - COURT (Land Records, Index), 1665 - 1841. 3. That gave me a page indicating a reference to records of 1665 - 1841 divided into three segments of the alphabet. I chose O - Z and got my first "The page cannot be found". Noting the letters in red in the right hand corner which gave a choice of either "Next Page" or "Next 10 Pages", I tried that route and got "The page cannot be found" again. 4. I repeated this exercise with the other two segments of the alphabet. Occasionally, I did hit an image of text but it gave only a list of names and, of course, not with any names which I am following. 5. I repeated this effort with each of the other five indices and got variations of the same results. Please Comment, George Bacon In a message dated 12/9/2008 6:35:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Johnlyon0@cs.com writes: My belief is that you're doing something wrong -- which may most likely mean that the lack of competent user guidance at the site has led you somehow astray. The images should be (well, I'll be stronger: *are*) there. Tell me a few of the citations you get your "unavailable" message for. There is no reason you should be unable to access these from home. But yes, the original deed volumes are all at the Archives, as well as films thereof, as well as user-accessible computers from which you can access the mdlandrec and plats.net sites, etc. John **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010)
Carol, Thanks a bunch. George Bacon In a message dated 12/10/2008 7:33:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, grannyjo2@verizon.net writes: George, 1. I am surprised you only got two county names when I go to Md. land Rec. net I get a list of all the counties in Maryland 2. After choosing Somerset I also chose the option "Search Land Record Indices" and did the same thing you did 3. I also chose O-Z and since that begins the O names I begin putting in page numbers to get to the V names On page 302 I found the beginning of the V names 4. near the bottom of that page I found the first entry for William Vaughan and that one I couldn't locate easily but the second listing for William Vaughan on that page was book AZ page 5 so I went there and low and behold at the bottom of the page was the indenture between Wm Vaughan and his wife and Thomas Thurman [?] So I think your problem was after you got to the O-Z section you need to type in page 302 of the index and go from there Carol -------------------------------------------------- From: <GB415104@aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 8:09 PM To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [LDR] Tract Names, William & Mary Vaughan > John, > > This may be akin to admitting my shortcomings on the old fashioned > telephone > party line. But in the hope that this may help someone else, here I go. > > 1. After entering my User ID and Password, I went to the left side > of > the page where two county names were displayed and chose Somerset County. > > 2. On that page, I chose the option "Search Land Record Indices, > 1665 - 1995". That gave me a page listing six active indices. I chose the > first > one: "CE160 - COURT (Land Records, Index), 1665 - 1841. > > 3. That gave me a page indicating a reference to records of 1665 - > 1841 divided into three segments of the alphabet. I chose O - Z and got > my > first "The page cannot be found". Noting the letters in red in the right > hand > corner which gave a choice of either "Next Page" or "Next 10 Pages", I > tried > that route and got "The page cannot be found" again. > > 4. I repeated this exercise with the other two segments of the > alphabet. > Occasionally, I did hit an image of text but it gave only a list of names > and, of course, not with any names which I am following. > > 5. I repeated this effort with each of the other five indices and got > variations of the same results. > > Please Comment, > > George Bacon > > > In a message dated 12/9/2008 6:35:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > Johnlyon0@cs.com writes: > > My belief is that you're doing something wrong -- which may most likely > mean > that the lack of competent user guidance at the site has led you somehow > astray. The images should be (well, I'll be stronger: *are*) there. > Tell me a > few of the citations you get your "unavailable" message for. There is no > reason you should be unable to access these from home. > > But yes, the original deed volumes are all at the Archives, as well as > films > thereof, as well as user-accessible computers from which you can access > the > mdlandrec and plats.net sites, etc. > > John > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and > favorite sites in one place. Try it now. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010)
I tried to send my file - I have a LOT on the descendants of this Benjamin Elliott and Mary Gordy - did it not get posted to the group? Best Regards, Mike Hitch "so often times it happens that we live our lives in chains and we never even know we have the key..." - Eagles (Already Gone) -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michelle Burris Kenerly Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 11:22 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Benjamin Elliott married to Mary Polly Gordy IDA.... I have a Benjamin ELLIOTT in my notes, but not certain about the dates that you mentioned below. I show: Jacob ELLIOTT son..Solomon ELLIOTT, Sr. son..Benjamin ELLIOTT. * I believe Benjamin may have been a brother to my gg grandmother Sarah C. "Sallie" ELLIOTT who married David Edward CAREY,Sr. They were living in Cannon,DE during most of their married life, I assume. Additionally, you may wish to contact Carolyn (Elliott) MILLER at the Sussex County Genealogy Society. She is the membership Chairperson and may be able to help you. Regards, Michelle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ida Olroyd" <idamay@mtco.com> To: "Forum, Sussex County" <Lower-Delmarva-Roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 10:23 PM Subject: [LDR] Benjamin Elliott married to Mary Polly Gordy > Does anyone have any information they'd like to share about Benjamin Elliott, b 1808 in MD and married to Mary Polly Gordy, b 1811? I am just starting to work on this family. I come into the Elliott's through my ancestor Mary Polly Gordy. > Thanks in advance for any help. > Have a great day > Ida > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
IDA.... I have a Benjamin ELLIOTT in my notes, but not certain about the dates that you mentioned below. I show: Jacob ELLIOTT son..Solomon ELLIOTT, Sr. son..Benjamin ELLIOTT. * I believe Benjamin may have been a brother to my gg grandmother Sarah C. "Sallie" ELLIOTT who married David Edward CAREY,Sr. They were living in Cannon,DE during most of their married life, I assume. Additionally, you may wish to contact Carolyn (Elliott) MILLER at the Sussex County Genealogy Society. She is the membership Chairperson and may be able to help you. Regards, Michelle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ida Olroyd" <idamay@mtco.com> To: "Forum, Sussex County" <Lower-Delmarva-Roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 10:23 PM Subject: [LDR] Benjamin Elliott married to Mary Polly Gordy > Does anyone have any information they'd like to share about Benjamin Elliott, b 1808 in MD and married to Mary Polly Gordy, b 1811? I am just starting to work on this family. I come into the Elliott's through my ancestor Mary Polly Gordy. > Thanks in advance for any help. > Have a great day > Ida > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
George, 1. I am surprised you only got two county names when I go to Md. land Rec. net I get a list of all the counties in Maryland 2. After choosing Somerset I also chose the option "Search Land Record Indices" and did the same thing you did 3. I also chose O-Z and since that begins the O names I begin putting in page numbers to get to the V names On page 302 I found the beginning of the V names 4. near the bottom of that page I found the first entry for William Vaughan and that one I couldn't locate easily but the second listing for William Vaughan on that page was book AZ page 5 so I went there and low and behold at the bottom of the page was the indenture between Wm Vaughan and his wife and Thomas Thurman [?] So I think your problem was after you got to the O-Z section you need to type in page 302 of the index and go from there Carol -------------------------------------------------- From: <GB415104@aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 8:09 PM To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [LDR] Tract Names, William & Mary Vaughan > John, > > This may be akin to admitting my shortcomings on the old fashioned > telephone > party line. But in the hope that this may help someone else, here I go. > > 1. After entering my User ID and Password, I went to the left side > of > the page where two county names were displayed and chose Somerset County. > > 2. On that page, I chose the option "Search Land Record Indices, > 1665 - 1995". That gave me a page listing six active indices. I chose the > first > one: "CE160 - COURT (Land Records, Index), 1665 - 1841. > > 3. That gave me a page indicating a reference to records of 1665 - > 1841 divided into three segments of the alphabet. I chose O - Z and got > my > first "The page cannot be found". Noting the letters in red in the right > hand > corner which gave a choice of either "Next Page" or "Next 10 Pages", I > tried > that route and got "The page cannot be found" again. > > 4. I repeated this exercise with the other two segments of the > alphabet. > Occasionally, I did hit an image of text but it gave only a list of names > and, of course, not with any names which I am following. > > 5. I repeated this effort with each of the other five indices and got > variations of the same results. > > Please Comment, > > George Bacon > > > In a message dated 12/9/2008 6:35:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > Johnlyon0@cs.com writes: > > My belief is that you're doing something wrong -- which may most likely > mean > that the lack of competent user guidance at the site has led you somehow > astray. The images should be (well, I'll be stronger: *are*) there. > Tell me a > few of the citations you get your "unavailable" message for. There is no > reason you should be unable to access these from home. > > But yes, the original deed volumes are all at the Archives, as well as > films > thereof, as well as user-accessible computers from which you can access > the > mdlandrec and plats.net sites, etc. > > John > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and > favorite sites in one place. Try it now. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Well, as I suspected, you fell victim to the opaque or non-helpful guidance in mdlandrec. I won't diagnose what they didn't tell you, but just point you in the right direction: Rather than CE160, go to the subsequent links that mention grantors or grantees. Arriving there, you should be able to follow the "Next" link at the upper right to get to the surname you're after. When you find that, there will be a page number. Then use the navigation at the top to go to that index page. There you'll find the list of deeds associated with the family. Write down those you're interested in. Then return to the county home page and enter at the top the Book and page number for one of those deeds. It should appear and you should be gratified at last. You'll have to do this twice to capture the grantors and grantees, of course. Let me/us know how you fared. John GB415104@aol.com wrote: >John, > >This may be akin to admitting my shortcomings on the old fashioned telephone >party line. But in the hope that this may help someone else, here I go. > > 1. After entering my User ID and Password, I went to the left side of >the page where two county names were displayed and chose Somerset County. > > 2. On that page, I chose the option "Search Land Record Indices, >1665 - 1995". That gave me a page listing six active indices. I chose the first >one: "CE160 - COURT (Land Records, Index), 1665 - 1841. > > 3. That gave me a page indicating a reference to records of 1665 - >1841 divided into three segments of the alphabet. I chose O - Z and got my >first "The page cannot be found". Noting the letters in red in the right hand >corner which gave a choice of either "Next Page" or "Next 10 Pages", I tried >that route and got "The page cannot be found" again. > >4. I repeated this exercise with the other two segments of the alphabet. >Occasionally, I did hit an image of text but it gave only a list of names >and, of course, not with any names which I am following. > >5. I repeated this effort with each of the other five indices and got >variations of the same results. > >Please Comment, > >George Bacon
John, This may be akin to admitting my shortcomings on the old fashioned telephone party line. But in the hope that this may help someone else, here I go. 1. After entering my User ID and Password, I went to the left side of the page where two county names were displayed and chose Somerset County. 2. On that page, I chose the option "Search Land Record Indices, 1665 - 1995". That gave me a page listing six active indices. I chose the first one: "CE160 - COURT (Land Records, Index), 1665 - 1841. 3. That gave me a page indicating a reference to records of 1665 - 1841 divided into three segments of the alphabet. I chose O - Z and got my first "The page cannot be found". Noting the letters in red in the right hand corner which gave a choice of either "Next Page" or "Next 10 Pages", I tried that route and got "The page cannot be found" again. 4. I repeated this exercise with the other two segments of the alphabet. Occasionally, I did hit an image of text but it gave only a list of names and, of course, not with any names which I am following. 5. I repeated this effort with each of the other five indices and got variations of the same results. Please Comment, George Bacon In a message dated 12/9/2008 6:35:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Johnlyon0@cs.com writes: My belief is that you're doing something wrong -- which may most likely mean that the lack of competent user guidance at the site has led you somehow astray. The images should be (well, I'll be stronger: *are*) there. Tell me a few of the citations you get your "unavailable" message for. There is no reason you should be unable to access these from home. But yes, the original deed volumes are all at the Archives, as well as films thereof, as well as user-accessible computers from which you can access the mdlandrec and plats.net sites, etc. John *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010)
Thanks John, I really appreciate the information. Mike> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 21:12:57 -0500> From: Johnlyon0@cs.com> To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [LDR] Tract Names, William & Mary Vaughan> > You're no further than I am from the largely legible deed records. Just go to> > www.mdsa.net> > and then to the link on the left for mdlandrec.> > Apply there for a username and password. Everything you need for William Vaughan is in Somerset County. Once you've received your i.d., go to the land records index to look up Vaughan deeds there. After you have those, then return to the county home page and enter the Volume and page number for each, and you'll find the images you're after.> > There's a little more on the Vaughans than I gave George the other day, but for the moment, just go this route. If you have any problems in navigating the system, ask here again. > > John> > mike hilton <jmh963@hotmail.com> wrote:> > >> >John, > > > >I am interested in what you told Mr. Bacon. in regards to the Vaughan family. I have worked on the Vaughan family & some other eastern shore families for a number of years but have obviously missed a number of Vaughan deeds.> >I note in your reply to Mr. Bacon that you mention several deeds regarding William Vaughan & his wife Mary that I was not aware of [IK: 174, AZ:005, & MF: 136] and I intend to order the relevant microfilm of the deeds.> > > >My problem since I live in Louisiana is that I have to rely mainly on the LDS library for a microfilm copy of deed records in re: Somerset, Worcestor, & Sussex County is that sometimes the microfilm copies are exceptionally poor. I was wondering if I am actually able to make a trip to Delmarva in the next year of 2 if the courthouse or State Archives copies of these records are more legible than the often washed out or extremely dark LDS library copies?> > > >Also, I was curious since my notes do not show any other deeds for William Vaughan & Mary for the time period say 1710-1742/3 was if you had notes on what deed books would show transactions for William & Mary Vaughan?> >Most of my deed records for this time period apply to the Cox & Smith families. I would appreciate any insight or information you might have.> > > >Thank you,> > > >Mike Hilton> >> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 07:47:19 -0500> From: Johnlyon0@cs.com> To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [LDR] Tract Names> > George: > > I finally glommed to the prospect you were actually asking where Bacon and Vaughan had been in 1735, and not about COXES DISCOVERY ...> > On the same day (02 Jul 1737) Dudson Bacon bought 100 ac of COXES DISCOVERY, William Vaughan had bought 400 ac of the same [So Deeds EI:188]. > > Before that, we find [So Deeds IK:174] that on 17 Nov 1721, Benjamin Nesham et ux. Mary Nesham had sold William Vaughan (carpenter) RICH SWAMP (150 ac) and 150 ac of the 300 ac MEECHES HOPE, which adjoined one another at the head of Wetipquin Creek (about 4 miles east of the mouth at the Nanticoke River) in now-Wicomico County (then still Somerset, and in Nanticoke Hundred).> > By So Deeds AZ:005, on 25 Dec 1731, Vaughan and his wife Mary sold half of the above to Thomas Serman. By So Deeds MF:136, on 08 Apr 1737, Vaughan (now named a ship carpenter)!> > and Mary sold the other half to Levin Dashiell [calling it THE LEVEL LAND].> > So that's where Vaughan (and obviously Bacon) had come from, moving up to the site on Little Creek in 1737. > > John> > Johnlyon0@cs.com wrote:> > >GB415104@aol.com wrote:> >>As a young man, my ancester, Dudson Bacon was a ward of William Vaughan, the >elder. I have Maryland Tax List records of 1735 showing Dudson living in the >household of William Vaughan but I have never known where that was. John >Lyon, I believe I recall you having commented on Cox's Discovery in the past >although I don't remember in what context. > >> >__________> >> >COXES DISCOVERY hugged Little Creek south of now-Laurel, Delaware. Its northern edge was about two miles south of Little Creek's mouth on Broad Creek and it extended about 1.7 miles south from there, and extended about 2/3 of a mile west of Little Creek along its length. It totaled 745 acres. It was originally surveyed on 15 May 1688 for Edward Day !> > and patented to him 04 Dec 1688 [see MD Patents B#23:134]. Dudson Bac> >on acquired two parts of it from Edward Day's heir Day Scott -- 100 ac in 1735 by So Deeds EI:187, and 145 ac in 1740 by So Deeds MF:185.> >> >Bacon also owned a few other pieces of land opposite Little Creek, east of the above.> >> >John> >***************************************> >QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING?> >Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ:> >http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm> >-------------------------------> >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >> ***************************************> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING?> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ:> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@ro!> > otsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >_________________________________________________________________> >Send e-mail faster without improving your typing skills.> >http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_speed_122008> >***************************************> >QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING?> >Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ:> >http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm> >-------------------------------> >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >> > ***************************************> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING?> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ:> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Send e-mail faster without improving your typing skills. http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_speed_122008
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