One other comment to the person who initiated this discussion of middle names. Have you looked at the original document to see if the persons really signed his and her name with a middle initial or did they just sign with a "mark"? Looking at what you wrote, in both cases the initial was the same letter as their first names. Could this have been the "mark" they used to sign? I have seen this several times in old deeds, wills, etc. At first I though I had discovered their middle initial, only to find out after a little more research that it was the way they signed documents. Obviously, they could not write but developed this method to distinguish their mark from an ordinary "X". Jean

I have found these naming patterns very common among my ancestors (all coastal VA and NC). I personally love it, because it helps with the research. ----- Original Message ----- From: <mydesire@gulftel.com> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 11:53 AM Subject: [LDR] Use of Maiden Name > > Hello. My Lancaster Co., VA(west side of the Chesapeake Bay)ancestor > born abt 1749 named her third son her maiden name, Bailey. She was > married 1769 and the first son was after husband's grandfather(or > husband's father both William), second son was named after her > father(John), third son was named after the husband(Henry), and the > fourth son was her maiden name. This seems to be a practice with lots > of either English or Scottish families. > Seems like this naming would have resolved the despute about my > first born son - he would have been Joseph. I believe this is why some > have been called by their middle names! > Mary in Alabama > > Quoting Elaine Sunde <elaine@sunde3.com>: >> I was working at the Univ of Tulsa about 1971 when we encountered a >> student who >> had registered with a hyphenated maiden-married name, eg. Susie >> Jones-Brown. We spent untold hours debating how to put her into our >> registration system: was she a J or a B???? So, in at least some >> circles (academia? Oklahoma??) >> these practices have come very late! >> >> In my family tree, I more commonly find the woman's maiden name >> appearing as a >> middle name for her sons, eg. James Robley Hill. >> >> Elaine > > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

_1820 United States Federal Census_ (http://www.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=7734&enc=1) Accomack Benjamin Colona St Georges Parish,Accomack,VA 1820 (http://content.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=0&dbid=7734&iid=VAM33_129-0049&fn=Benjamin&ln=Colona &st=d&ssrc=&pid=1047924) _View Record_ (http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&rank=0&gsfn=&gsln=Colonna&sx=y&f5=VA&f4=Accomack&f7=&gskw=&prox =1&db=1820usfedcenancestry&ti=0&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&pcat=35&fh=4&h=1047964&reco ff=2) Eborn Coloney Watts Island,Accomack,VA 1820 (http://content.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=0&dbid=7734&iid=VAM33_129-0049&fn=Eborn&ln=Coloney&st=d&ssrc=&p id=1047964) _View Record_ (http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&rank=0&gsfn=&gsln=Colonna&sx=y&f5=VA&f4=Accomack&f7=&gskw=&prox=1&db=1820usf edcenancestry&ti=0&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&pcat=35&fh=5&h=1048004&recoff=2) James Coloney Onancock,Accomack,VA 1820 (http://content.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=0&dbid=7734&iid=VAM33_129-0050&fn=James&ln=Coloney&st=d&ssrc=&pid=1 048004) _View Record_ (http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&rank=0&gsfn=&gsln=Colonna&sx=y&f5=VA&f4=Accomack&f7=&gskw=&prox=1&db=1820usfedce nancestry&ti=0&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&pcat=35&fh=6&h=1047913&recoff=2) Watson Coloney St Georges Parish,Accomack,VA 1820 (http://content.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=0&dbid=7734&iid=VAM33_129-0049&fn=Watson&ln=Coloney&st=d& ssrc=&pid=1047913) _View Record_ (http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&rank=0&gsfn=&gsln=Colonna&sx=y&f5=VA&f4=Accomack&f7=&gskw=&prox=1&db= 1820usfedcenancestry&ti=0&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&pcat=35&fh=7&h=1047497&recoff=2) Kendall Colonna Accomac,Accomack,VA 1820 (http://content.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=0&dbid=7734&iid=VAM33_129-0032&fn=Kendall&ln=Colonna&st=d&ssrc=&pi d=1047497) _View Record_ (http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&rank=0&gsfn=&gsln=Colonna&sx=y&f5=VA&f4=Accomack&f7=&gskw=&prox=1&db=1820usfe dcenancestry&ti=0&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&pcat=35&fh=8&h=1047938&recoff=2) William Colonna St Georges Parish,Accomack,VA 1820 **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)

The Colony surname has many spellings, and today the most common is Colonna. I have no idea why. In any event, they were still all over the place in Accomack and Northampton, but one must consider not only the spelling vagaries of the census takers, but also the idiocies committed by the transcribers. Good luck. Elizabeth **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)

I am looking for the parents of Alexander Hayes [b abt 1800 in Delaware] - found as an Innkeeper in the 1850 census in Monongalia Virginia [W.Va.] - married abt 1821 to Pheobe Davis [b abt 1805 in Virginia]. Their children are Nancy, Catherine, Manlove, Elizabeth, John A., Hester Ann [ married Milton Y. Willey], Henry , Velinda, Lewis, Mariah, and George C. which makes me think that Alexander may be connected to Richard Hayes m to Priscilla Polk but I have read that only one of their children [Manlove] ever married. Any one with information on this family?

Dear Delmarva Rooters, Following are transcriptions recently drawn from Chicago, Illinois newspapers concerning some of my Delaware ancestors/cousins. My great-great grandparents, Joseph W. & Lurana M. BENSON WHARTON moved to Illinois from the area of Laurel, Sussex County [listed as the "Eleventh Subdivision" in the 1850 U. S. Census], Delaware in the early 1850s. They wound up in Chicago by about 1857. At least one of Lurana's siblings, a brother, Francis H. Benson, also seems to have moved from Delaware to the Chicago area roughly during this period, along with perhaps their mother (and who knows who else??!!). I'd love to hear from anyone who thinks they might be related to these WHARTON and/or BENSON folks, or who might have additional information about them. Dave K __________________ The Chicago Daily Tribune November 27, 1898 pg 6 BENSON November 25, 1898 Francis Henry Benson, beloved father of William E. and Frank A. Benson. Funeral Sunday, Nov. 27 2 p.m. from the residence of F. A. Benson 421 Belden Ave. [I believe this Francis Henry Benson is the brother of my gg-grandmother, Lurana Benson Wharton.] ________________ The Chicago Tribune August 29, 1867 page 4 At Marquette, Mich. August 26 Charles (H.) Benson, son of F.H. and Caroline R. Benson age (19) years. Funeral at Rosehill today (Thursday). Cars leave the Chicago and Milwaukee depot at 1:30 p.m. returning at 2:30 p.m. Friends of the deceased and of his family are invited to attend without further notice. [I am not sure how this Charles H. Benson might fit in. He seems like he might be a fourth child of Francis Henry & Carrie Benson. Francis was a brother to my gg-grandmother, Lurana Benson Wharton.] _________________ The Chicago Tribune October 16, 1865 page 4 In this city, Oct 14 1865 at the residence of her son-in-law F. H. Benson, MRS. ELIZABETH BENSON, age (68) years. The funeral will take place tomorrow (Monday) at 10 o'clock a.m. from (245) North LaSalle Street. [This would seem to be the mother (not mother-in-law) of Francis Benson and Lurana Benson Wharton. I don't know Elizabeth's maiden family name.] __________________ The Chicago Daily Tribune July 23, 1922 page 9 WHARTON Charles Henry Wharton, at Whitewater, Wisc. July 20, 1922; born Laurel Dec 1849; fond husband of Louise Wharton née Woodbury, fond father of Mrs. Clara Moltzner, Belle, Fred, Mrs. Nellie McCorkell and Ralph. Burial at Whitewater, Wisc. Saturday July 22 2 p.m. [Charles Henry Wharton is my great-grandfather. He was born in Sussex County, Delaware not long before the family's move to Illinois.] _________________ The Chicago Daily Tribune March 21, 1888 page 8 WHARTON Tuesday morning at Rogers Park, Mrs. J.W. Wharton, age 58 years. [This is Lurana Benson Wharton, my great-great grandmother.] ___________________ The Chicago Daily Tribune September 12, 1895 MCGRATH Sept 11; age 44; Annie F., wife of James McGrath and sister of Charles H., William N., George, John and Frank Wharton and Mrs. A. J. (Heckler) of Rogers Park. Funeral from the late residence (1690) Wolcott st. Friday Sept 13 at 2 p.m. to Rosehill Cemetery. [Ths is Anna "Annie" Frances Wharton McGrath, sister to my great-grandfather Charles Henry Wharton. I am not entirely clear on the birthplaces of Annie and her siblings born over the first years of the 1850s, but I believe she was the first child of her parents born after their move to Illinois.] ___________________ # # # # #

That's why I gave up using my hyphenated name after a few years of toughing it out! <hee hee> The hyphen makes it one name, so she should have been indexed under J. I used Elam-White, but was forever being put under White. So now I just use my maiden name as my middle name and always use both for genealogy and legal purposes. I'm indexed under White now, but my Elam identity is still there! Vickie Elam White ---- Elaine Sunde <elaine@sunde3.com> wrote: > I was working at the Univ of Tulsa about 1971 when we encountered a student who had registered with a hyphenated maiden-married name, eg. Susie Jones-Brown. We spent untold hours debating how to put her into our registration system: was she a J or a B???? So, in at least some circles (academia? Oklahoma??) these practices have come very late! > > In my family tree, I more commonly find the woman's maiden name appearing as a middle name for her sons, eg. James Robley Hill. > > Elaine > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Elaine wrote: >>> I was working at the Univ of Tulsa about 1971 when we encountered a student who had registered with a hyphenated maiden-married name, eg. Susie Jones-Brown. We spent untold hours debating how to put her into our registration system: was she a J or a B???? So, in at least some circles (academia? Oklahoma??) these practices have come very late!<<< _______________ Elaine, Do you remember if your U. of Tulsa student kept her "original" middle name as her middle name, for example, Susie Margaret Jones-Brown? That could be seen as a benefit of a "one generation" hyphenated married name, that I hadn't thought of before. And, do you remember if you indexed her under the first or second of her hyphenated family names? :-) At least by the 1800s and well into the 1900s, one frustration (for me) is that many married women, in newspaper accounts anyway, seem to have lost not only their maiden family name, but also their first and original middle names as well -- for instance, my gg-grandmother Lurana M. Benson became, in news notes, Mrs. J. W. [Joseph W.] Wharton. Dave K

Hi George, Here, from my files, is how the Waples, Vaughans and Bacons trees connect. Elizabeth Betty Waples 1710-1796 (Daughter of Paul Waples and Temperance Derrickson), married William Vaughan, Jr. 1710-1785, son of William Vaughan 1685-1742 and Mary Jones. Things get confused since the same names for the children such as Elizabeth and Mary, etc. were used over and over in generations following (Ex. Mary 1722, Mary 1755, Mary 1770, Mary 1805, Mary 1820). Elizabeth Waples will probate was January 31, 1796, Hancock, GA. Another daughter of William Vaughan and Mary Jones, Elizabeth Vaughn 1718-, married Dudson Bacon 1715-1784. From Calender of Sussex county, DE Probate Records, the will of Dirickson Waples (daughter of Paul Waples and Temperance Derrickson) 1775: Sister Betty Vaughan is mentioned along with many others. Exed'r was William Vaughan (Jr). Dodson Bacon's will probate was Oct. 3, 1783. Exec'r son Levin. So that is some of the info that I have. Ed Vaughn GB415104@aol.com wrote: >To Mike Hilton and Ed Vaughan, > >I have been following your dialogue about the William Vaughan line with >interest. You may recall that I exchanged messages with John Lyon a few weeks ago >about William Vaughan and my ancestor, Dudson Bacon. John was of great help > > > >

I was working at the Univ of Tulsa about 1971 when we encountered a student who had registered with a hyphenated maiden-married name, eg. Susie Jones-Brown. We spent untold hours debating how to put her into our registration system: was she a J or a B???? So, in at least some circles (academia? Oklahoma??) these practices have come very late! In my family tree, I more commonly find the woman's maiden name appearing as a middle name for her sons, eg. James Robley Hill. Elaine

Good Morning Becky, Yes, it seems that Peter Waples was a busy guy. You may already know this but according to material in the Pennsylvania Archives, he established a ferry (court records) in 1696 over the Indian River on "The road from Lewistown". The site of the old ferry is at what is still known as the 'Old Ferry Landing' on the tract 'Warwick', the name for the farm and mansion of old time". Ed Vaughn Miller's Choice wrote: >Happy New Year, Ed, George and everyone, > >From: Ed Vaughn <edvaughn@cdsnet.net> ><. . . Peter Waples, a planter on the eastern shore of Virginia, who "removed to Somerset County, MD with his wife Frances on Dec. 31, 1678" and proved " his right to 100 acres.> > >Our ancestor, Peter Waples, was in Somerset County at least a year prior to proving his rights to that hundred acres, as: > >On 6 February 1676/7, Peter Whaples and Thomas Willis were summoned to court to answer unto the Parrahawkin Indians for taking away beans and peas and the Indians requesting that double the quantity of beans and peas be delivered them for their satisfaction; the court ordered Whaples and Willis to restore the beans and peas in double quantity and not to be released from their securities until performed (Somerset Judicial Records 1675/77:80). >Another of my ancestors, John Harris b. 1673, gave his age as 55 when he testified in Richard Knight's commission to determine the boundaries of Mitchells Adventure, stating that where they were standing was about 35 years previously known as Peter Waples Bridge and also by the name of the Indian Bridge and a path from John Fleming's into Parahaken Neck [JR 1727/30:35). > >The community of Perryhawkin is still in existence, although Find A Grave does not have it as a location in Somerset County. I was out there Wednesday to celebrate the 100th birthday of the widow of one of my father's cousins. Not too far from the Perryhawkin Church Hall is Fleming Mill Pond Road which leads east into Worcester County. I can't help but think the bridge allowing passage over Dividing Creek is in the same spot as was Peter Waple's Bridge or at least very close to it. When my father was a boy (b. 1903) the water at that bridge was the local swimming hole, complete with a tire swing. Very Norman Rockwell-ish. > >Becky M > > > >*************************************** >QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

I am new to this list but I see that it seems to be fairly active. I've been reading back through the archived postings to see what I've missed. Is anyone working on the ancestry of Philip Barrett (1731-1784) and Miriam Sipple of Kent Co. Delaware (founders of Barratt's Chapel)? I am particularly interested in tracking Matthew Patton(1773-1829) who married Lydia Barrett (1780-1864), daughter of Philip Barrett Jr. & Miriam Sipple (1737-1800) before he and Lydia left Delaware and they went to Caroline Co. Maryland. Looking for any clues to their years before about 1800.particularly. Thanks, Patti ____________________________________________________________ Click here for free info on Graduate Degrees. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2jywNNHHVYQ8YQfBo1pWxPdX4TliodYsCuGnzhcaWtbN1kJ/

"marjorie adams" <marjea@wildblue.net> wrote: >Looking for the date of the sale of tract "Logwood's Adventure" (Lockwood's >Adventure) 100 acres by Jesse Newport between 1762 - abt 1787 in Worcester >or Sussex, Baltimore or Dagsboro Hd. Jesse Newport bought it from John >Logwood (Lockwood) in 1762 and removed to PA by 1790. ______________ This property ssems to have been about 2 miles east southeast of Millsboro, just south of the Indian River. Pre-Revolutionary conveyances were: Worcester Deeds E:378. 27 Oct 1762. From John Lockwood [Logwood] et ux. Sarah Lockwood to Jesse Newport [Newpord]. Worcester Deeds I:061. 17 Mar 1772. From Jesse Newport to Samuel Lockwood. John

Looking for the date of the sale of tract "Logwood's Adventure" (Lockwood's Adventure) 100 acres by Jesse Newport between 1762 - abt 1787 in Worcester or Sussex, Baltimore or Dagsboro Hd. Jesse Newport bought it from John Logwood (Lockwood) in 1762 and removed to PA by 1790.

Susan wrote:>>> Just thought to mention, as far as I know in the 1700s women did not use the maiden name as a middle name or to provide a middle initial. They lost their maiden names entirely upon marriage. In fact, some families still do this - including mine. Anyone else care to comment on this? When did the custom begin that a woman would use her maiden name as a middle name?<<< _________________ Susan ~ Great question, and I hope you've generated a good discussion. I wonder what the "breakdown" is today in America of how marriage affects the wife's name. Keep her maiden name as her middle name and take her husband's surname? Keep her middle name as her middle name, but taking her husband's surname? Keep her name entirely? Has the practice varied in America bynational ancestral origins? Dave K

There are certain sort of exceptions, as when a girl was given a maiden name (although not her own) as a middle name, or even as a first name - pity all the girls named things like "Director"! Elizabeth **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)

DOES anyone know rhe name pf the father and mother of John Bozman,.Ihave WM. bOZMAN back to tjhe 1600's but I can not any information other information than his father was Thomas he m a Scott. Who was Thomas father, he he born,as you can see I am full of questions. RENIE

My oldest daughter kept her maiden name when she got remarried; my sister kept the name of her second husband when she married her third husband (a few years after she divorced her 2nd husband, she tracked down her first high school boy friend, and married him. His wife of several years had died years before). Bob Knotts, a QA co MD KNOTTS, related to the WV KNOTTS'. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave & Jane Kearney" <kearneyd@erols.com> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com>; "Susan Wheary" <susanwheary@emypeople.net> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] William Vaughan Somerset County, Maryland > Susan wrote:>>> Just thought to mention, as far as I know in the 1700s > women did not use the maiden name as a middle name or to provide a middle > initial. They lost their maiden names entirely upon marriage. In fact, > some families still do this - including mine. Anyone else care to comment > on this? When did the custom begin that a woman would use her maiden name > as a middle name?<<< > _________________ > > Susan ~ Great question, and I hope you've generated a good discussion. I > wonder what the "breakdown" is today in America of how marriage affects > the wife's name. Keep her maiden name as her middle name and take her > husband's surname? Keep her middle name as her middle name, but taking her > husband's surname? Keep her name entirely? > > Has the practice varied in America bynational ancestral origins? > > Dave K > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi George, Just thought to mention, as far as I know in the 1700s women did not use the maiden name as a middle name or to provide a middle initial. They lost their maiden names entirely upon marriage. In fact, some families still do this - including mine. Anyone else care to comment on this? When did the custom begin that a woman would use her maiden name as a middle name? Susan in Missouri (descended from Jethro Vaughan) ---Original Message--- I have the surname of JONES (with no source) for William's wife Mary which may be suspect now that I have found a deed with M as her middle initial. I list Williams children in the following order: Jethro, Levin, William, Ephraim. Sarah, Elizabeth (my g-g-g-g grandmother), and five unknowns listed in his will.

Happy New Year, Ed, George and everyone, From: Ed Vaughn <edvaughn@cdsnet.net> <. . . Peter Waples, a planter on the eastern shore of Virginia, who "removed to Somerset County, MD with his wife Frances on Dec. 31, 1678" and proved " his right to 100 acres.> Our ancestor, Peter Waples, was in Somerset County at least a year prior to proving his rights to that hundred acres, as: On 6 February 1676/7, Peter Whaples and Thomas Willis were summoned to court to answer unto the Parrahawkin Indians for taking away beans and peas and the Indians requesting that double the quantity of beans and peas be delivered them for their satisfaction; the court ordered Whaples and Willis to restore the beans and peas in double quantity and not to be released from their securities until performed (Somerset Judicial Records 1675/77:80).   Another of my ancestors, John Harris b. 1673, gave his age as 55 when he testified in Richard Knight's commission to determine the boundaries of Mitchells Adventure, stating that where they were standing was about 35 years previously known as Peter Waples Bridge and also by the name of the Indian Bridge and a path from John Fleming's into Parahaken Neck [JR 1727/30:35).   The community of Perryhawkin is still in existence, although Find A Grave does not have it as a location in Somerset County. I was out there Wednesday to celebrate the 100th birthday of the widow of one of my father's cousins.  Not too far from the Perryhawkin Church Hall is Fleming Mill Pond Road which leads east into Worcester County.  I can't help but think the bridge allowing passage over Dividing Creek is in the same spot as was Peter Waple's Bridge or at least very close to it.  When my father was a boy (b. 1903) the water at that bridge was the local swimming hole, complete with a tire swing.  Very Norman Rockwell-ish.   Becky M