Jean It went in July.They are faster lately.The wait time is supposed to be 6 months now. Kathleen

Congratulations Kathleen. How long did it take them to approve him. I submitted a new patriot back in July and was told that the waiting time on a supplemental is about 18 months. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "kathlingram" <kathlingram@inteliport.com> To: <MDQUEENA-L@rootsweb.com>; <LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com>; <dekent@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 12:08 PM Subject: [LDR] John Carrow Patriot >I am thrilled to bits to announce that the DAR has verified my Supplemental > yesterday for John Carrow as a "New Patriot".It was something that was > assumed would never happen as this family straddled the line between > Maryland and Delaware for at least 100 years. > > John Carrow served in Queen Anne MD Militia in 1776 although he lived in > Duck Creek DE for part of his young adult life.His father died in 1776 and > in 1775 the family was not to be found in Delaware. John Carrow and his > mother, in separate households are again in DE by 1782. > > Two things happen here: one is John's Patriot status and one is that the > family indeed is the one that is in Queen Anne MD and Dorchester MD after > they leave Accomac VA c. 1675. > > Kathleen Carrow Ingram( proud of John Carrow) > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Doris Christian <dmkchristian@austin.rr.com> wrote: >In the 1700's and a little later depending on the state; land was   >"processioned" by the Church of England on a yearly basis (for the C   >of E it was a way of deciding taxation on tithings)  what they did was   >take the land holders on each side of the boundary line and walk the   >boundary with the two landholders agreeing on where the line was.   >This was their way of "surveying" the land.  And, if there was a   >dispute, it was surveyed with the land owners having to pay for the   >survey. ______________ I'm unaware of any procession records in Maryland. The Land Commissions were the result of a petition made by an owner of property whose boundaries had come into question, usually by decay of ancient witness trees, and the death of the directly involved parties. Responsible commissioners were appointed by the county court, and various locals, often ancient "long standers" would depose on what they knew of the matter, recalling circumstances from decades past. Then a resurvey was done, paid for by the petitioner. A revised patent might or might not ensue, but the findings (as I intimated in my previous) ended up in the corpus of knowledge then accessible to the County Surveyor, and used for subsequent area cartographic fiddling. All the uncertainties in this, and loss of such details over the years, continue to make boundary determination a matter of equity court judgments down to the present. John

"Mike Hitch" <mikehitch@mikehitch.com> wrote: >Hi all - esp. John Lyon - I found the following reference in the Somerset >County Judicials several years ago. I have tried to find where, in the >records, the 'judgment' was carried out - I assume via survey or >something....Has anyone any clue where this might be found (NOTE: I search >the land records for the time period following the 1790 judgment to no >avail). John Lyon - have you run across anything in your land studies? _________________ Mike: The Somerset Judicial Records present from early in the 18th century a summation of the proceedings of County Court for each of the four sessions each year, including an abstract of each civil and criminal action heard, but not the whole of the case filings. For Land Commissions, the summation in the Judicials included only the circumstances of the appointments of the commissioners and the verbatim transcripts of the depositions made. The actual findings of the Commissions and any survey papers were not entered there. For the actual detailed case records (including Land Commissions before the Revolution, at least), the place one has to look (and hope) is in the “Somerset Court Papers”, a separate series from the Judicial Records: SOMERSET COUNTY COURT: (Court Papers) MSA C1754, from 1722 to 1851. There are two problems. First, these are paper records, never filmed and endlessly voluminous. They are filed in folders within clamshells at the Archives, ostensibly roughly sequenced by year – but one finds much disarray, and finding a specific record may take you a day or more sifting through clamshells and the roughly 50 or so folders within each, with each folder often containing many unrelated case records. Second, my own experience is that very few of the actual Commission reports including the deliberations and surveys survive, anyway. One usually encounters the originals of the depositions transcribed into the Judicials, and some other summary text, but only rarely useful detail such as you’re looking for. Entering the Court Papers thicket is an almost unimaginable wild goose chase. Wait until you’re retired and have a month or a year to kill. Another prospect, though, in your exact period of interest might be this one: SOMERSET COUNTY REGISTER OF WILLS (Commissions) MSA C1753, covering 1778 to 1804. I just don’t recall offhand ever accessing this volume (later than my primary period of interest), and am not sure what you might run into. If it resembles the only other similarly-titled volume: SOMERSET COUNTY COURT (Land Commissions) MSA C1776, covering 1717-1721, you might have some hope of finding what you want. The 1717-21 volume contains all the wonders of reconstructed survey metes and bounds and detailed plats, and is a great resource for its limited span of years. Evidently the Provincial overlords demanded this briefly at that time from all counties, but then abandoned the requirement. The Commission reports are the principal missing mass from the Provincial land record documentation. They are often referred to in deeds and later resurvey patents, but the actual reports are largely gone with the wind. John

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Yes, I understand the 'f' = "ss" thing - Believe me, I have read tons (literally) of 17th and 18th century documents - so much so that I think I speak and write the old Elizabethan and Georgian way! But, I think the 'judgment' requested here had to do more with Ben Hitch's proximity to the county divisional line - in various records, his land is described as being in Somerset, Worcester and straddling both at the same time. I imagine, in this record, he was trying to get someone official to decide once and for all how much of his land was in one county versus the other for purposes of taxes owed. I was thinking that, to determine same, a survey would have been undertaken...maybe it was or maybe not, but I certainly cannot find it in any official record...even if a formal survey was not performed by a professional surveyor, one would think the results of the findings relative to the judgment would have be duly recorded somewhere in official documentation...no? Best Regards, Mike Hitch "so often times it happens that we live our lives in chains and we never even know we have the key..." - Eagles (Already Gone) -----Original Message----- From: Doris Christian [mailto:dmkchristian@austin.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 1:30 PM To: mikehitch@mikehitch.com; lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Land Records - Big Question first of all when you see what looks like an "f" it is really a substitute for "ss". 1790... I doubt if it was surveyed. This records is asking the commissioners to make a judgement based on the affidavits of men in the area who know the land in dispute. In the 1700's and a little later depending on the state; land was "processioned" by the Church of England on a yearly basis (for the C of E it was a way of deciding taxation on tithings) what they did was take the land holders on each side of the boundary line and walk the boundary with the two landholders agreeing on where the line was. This was their way of "surveying" the land. And, if there was a dispute, it was surveyed with the land owners having to pay for the survey. Even after the Rev. War, in some states the processioning was still used. There weren't many surveyors back then and small land owners could not afford them. Doris Christian On Jan 14, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Mike Hitch wrote: > Hi all - esp. John Lyon - I found the following reference in the > Somerset > County Judicials several years ago. I have tried to find where, in the > records, the 'judgment' was carried out - I assume via survey or > something....Has anyone any clue where this might be found (NOTE: I > search > the land records for the time period following the 1790 judgment to no > avail). John Lyon - have you run across anything in your land studies? > > ***On Oct 23 1790, the court records show: "Benjm Hitch commifson & > affidavits... to Gillif Polk, James Bennett, Robert Dashiell and > John Harris > Hayman of Somerset County Gentlemen..." commissioners agree to examine > evidence on behalf of "a certain Benjamin Hitch of the County in > relation to > the bounds of a tract of land called Mount Pleasant." Deponents > Revel Hayman > "of lawful age" and William Hayman, age 22. Judgment was granted to > Benjamin > Hitch. (SoJ-1788/91:302, 303).*** > > > > Best Regards, > Mike Hitch > "so often times it happens that we live our lives in chains and we > never > even know we have the key..." - Eagles (Already Gone) > > -----Original Message----- > From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > kathlingram > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 12:41 PM > To: LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LDR] John Carrow Patriot > > Mike > Yes that is what it means..anyone who can prove a descent from this > John > Carrow can join the DAR or SAR.He will not have a "number" until the > meeting > > the first week in February. It was approved yesterday and I read it > in my > own file and it will be in Volume #959. > > I ASSUME he will be a Maryland Patriot as he served in the Maryland > Militia.He lived in Duck Creek DE when his son John Carrow is born in > 1783.That John Carrow married Mary Keys and I established William > Keys as a > Patriot in 2005. > > Anyone who wants a copy of my paperwork or John's number e-mail me > after mid > > February. > Kathleen > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Hi all - esp. John Lyon - I found the following reference in the Somerset County Judicials several years ago. I have tried to find where, in the records, the 'judgment' was carried out - I assume via survey or something....Has anyone any clue where this might be found (NOTE: I search the land records for the time period following the 1790 judgment to no avail). John Lyon - have you run across anything in your land studies? ***On Oct 23 1790, the court records show: "Benjm Hitch commifson & affidavits... to Gillif Polk, James Bennett, Robert Dashiell and John Harris Hayman of Somerset County Gentlemen..." commissioners agree to examine evidence on behalf of "a certain Benjamin Hitch of the County in relation to the bounds of a tract of land called Mount Pleasant." Deponents Revel Hayman "of lawful age" and William Hayman, age 22. Judgment was granted to Benjamin Hitch. (SoJ-1788/91:302, 303).*** Best Regards, Mike Hitch "so often times it happens that we live our lives in chains and we never even know we have the key..." - Eagles (Already Gone) -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of kathlingram Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 12:41 PM To: LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDR] John Carrow Patriot Mike Yes that is what it means..anyone who can prove a descent from this John Carrow can join the DAR or SAR.He will not have a "number" until the meeting the first week in February. It was approved yesterday and I read it in my own file and it will be in Volume #959. I ASSUME he will be a Maryland Patriot as he served in the Maryland Militia.He lived in Duck Creek DE when his son John Carrow is born in 1783.That John Carrow married Mary Keys and I established William Keys as a Patriot in 2005. Anyone who wants a copy of my paperwork or John's number e-mail me after mid February. Kathleen *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks - I think I know a Carrow descendant to pass this along to... On a similar note, I was able to help one of my female cousins to gain entry into the DAR via my 5x great grandfather Benjamin Hitch (1738/40 - 1814). I dunno if he has a 'number', or even what that means, but the descendant was just approved this past fall... Benjamin Hitch resided in Somerset/Worcester Co. (his land was literally on the line between the two counties (today it is fully on the Worcester side of Meadow Bridge Road - the road that divides the two counties). He gets credit for having served in the Revolution by the fact that, in 1780, he was listed with the Maryland Militia in the muster rolls for Salisbury Battalion, Mi(ll) Creek Company. Best Regards, Mike Hitch "so often times it happens that we live our lives in chains and we never even know we have the key..." - Eagles (Already Gone) -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of kathlingram Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 12:41 PM To: LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDR] John Carrow Patriot Mike Yes that is what it means..anyone who can prove a descent from this John Carrow can join the DAR or SAR.He will not have a "number" until the meeting the first week in February. It was approved yesterday and I read it in my own file and it will be in Volume #959. I ASSUME he will be a Maryland Patriot as he served in the Maryland Militia.He lived in Duck Creek DE when his son John Carrow is born in 1783.That John Carrow married Mary Keys and I established William Keys as a Patriot in 2005. Anyone who wants a copy of my paperwork or John's number e-mail me after mid February. Kathleen *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mike Yes that is what it means..anyone who can prove a descent from this John Carrow can join the DAR or SAR.He will not have a "number" until the meeting the first week in February. It was approved yesterday and I read it in my own file and it will be in Volume #959. I ASSUME he will be a Maryland Patriot as he served in the Maryland Militia.He lived in Duck Creek DE when his son John Carrow is born in 1783.That John Carrow married Mary Keys and I established William Keys as a Patriot in 2005. Anyone who wants a copy of my paperwork or John's number e-mail me after mid February. Kathleen

By "New Patriot", do you mean he can be used as an ancestor to gain membership in the DAR (and maybe SAR)? That is, assuming that one can document their lineage to said patriot... Best Regards, Mike Hitch "so often times it happens that we live our lives in chains and we never even know we have the key..." - Eagles (Already Gone) -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of kathlingram Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 12:09 PM To: MDQUEENA-L@rootsweb.com; LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com; dekent@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDR] John Carrow Patriot I am thrilled to bits to announce that the DAR has verified my Supplemental yesterday for John Carrow as a "New Patriot".It was something that was assumed would never happen as this family straddled the line between Maryland and Delaware for at least 100 years. John Carrow served in Queen Anne MD Militia in 1776 although he lived in Duck Creek DE for part of his young adult life.His father died in 1776 and in 1775 the family was not to be found in Delaware. John Carrow and his mother, in separate households are again in DE by 1782. Two things happen here: one is John's Patriot status and one is that the family indeed is the one that is in Queen Anne MD and Dorchester MD after they leave Accomac VA c. 1675. Kathleen Carrow Ingram( proud of John Carrow) *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

first of all when you see what looks like an "f" it is really a substitute for "ss". 1790... I doubt if it was surveyed. This records is asking the commissioners to make a judgement based on the affidavits of men in the area who know the land in dispute. In the 1700's and a little later depending on the state; land was "processioned" by the Church of England on a yearly basis (for the C of E it was a way of deciding taxation on tithings) what they did was take the land holders on each side of the boundary line and walk the boundary with the two landholders agreeing on where the line was. This was their way of "surveying" the land. And, if there was a dispute, it was surveyed with the land owners having to pay for the survey. Even after the Rev. War, in some states the processioning was still used. There weren't many surveyors back then and small land owners could not afford them. Doris Christian On Jan 14, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Mike Hitch wrote: > Hi all - esp. John Lyon - I found the following reference in the > Somerset > County Judicials several years ago. I have tried to find where, in the > records, the 'judgment' was carried out - I assume via survey or > something....Has anyone any clue where this might be found (NOTE: I > search > the land records for the time period following the 1790 judgment to no > avail). John Lyon - have you run across anything in your land studies? > > ***On Oct 23 1790, the court records show: "Benjm Hitch commifson & > affidavits... to Gillif Polk, James Bennett, Robert Dashiell and > John Harris > Hayman of Somerset County Gentlemen..." commissioners agree to examine > evidence on behalf of "a certain Benjamin Hitch of the County in > relation to > the bounds of a tract of land called Mount Pleasant." Deponents > Revel Hayman > "of lawful age" and William Hayman, age 22. Judgment was granted to > Benjamin > Hitch. (SoJ-1788/91:302, 303).*** > > > > Best Regards, > Mike Hitch > "so often times it happens that we live our lives in chains and we > never > even know we have the key..." - Eagles (Already Gone) > > -----Original Message----- > From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > kathlingram > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 12:41 PM > To: LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LDR] John Carrow Patriot > > Mike > Yes that is what it means..anyone who can prove a descent from this > John > Carrow can join the DAR or SAR.He will not have a "number" until the > meeting > > the first week in February. It was approved yesterday and I read it > in my > own file and it will be in Volume #959. > > I ASSUME he will be a Maryland Patriot as he served in the Maryland > Militia.He lived in Duck Creek DE when his son John Carrow is born in > 1783.That John Carrow married Mary Keys and I established William > Keys as a > Patriot in 2005. > > Anyone who wants a copy of my paperwork or John's number e-mail me > after mid > > February. > Kathleen > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

I am thrilled to bits to announce that the DAR has verified my Supplemental yesterday for John Carrow as a "New Patriot".It was something that was assumed would never happen as this family straddled the line between Maryland and Delaware for at least 100 years. John Carrow served in Queen Anne MD Militia in 1776 although he lived in Duck Creek DE for part of his young adult life.His father died in 1776 and in 1775 the family was not to be found in Delaware. John Carrow and his mother, in separate households are again in DE by 1782. Two things happen here: one is John's Patriot status and one is that the family indeed is the one that is in Queen Anne MD and Dorchester MD after they leave Accomac VA c. 1675. Kathleen Carrow Ingram( proud of John Carrow)

Thank you For the information John, You given me more to ponder over concerning the Vaughan family, It is interesting how families were connected to each other and I will eventually have to make a trip in person to visit the Eastern Shore of Maryland & Delaware. THanks again, Mike Hilton> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:46:59 -0500> From: Johnlyon0@cs.com> To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [LDR] Conveying Property in Somerst County, Question for John Lyon> > mike hilton <jmh963@hotmail.com> wrote:> > > in several deeds I have noticed the husband and wife conveying property together and was wondering if that implied the wife might have an interest other than her dower right in the property?> >> >For example, Benajmin Nesham and his wife Mary conveyed together to William Vaughan in Liber IKL 174 & 175 > >> >Also, in William Vaughan and his wife Mary conveyed together the Westernmost half of Meeches Hope and Rich Swamp to Thomas Shurman in the formulary: <snip>> > _________________> > This form of deed (from man and wife) inevitably means she held some separate rights, which were almost surely brought by her into the marriage by bequest, inheritance or other means. Strictly speaking, under English law her husband became the owner of such property, but the MD rules of deed construction seem consistently to require the wife’s name to be added to the grantor list on disposal of the land. > > For identity of Mary Vaughan, I have no immediate evidence, just some surrounding stuff. Benjamin Nesham’s first wife was Elizabeth Jamison, daughter of Alexander Jamison. She had died, and Nesham’s widow Mary of So Deeds IK:174 is named in MD Accounts 32B:123 as his executrix, and a Quaker. It is imaginable, I suppose, that Mary subsequently m. William Vaughan, but this is just a speculative possibility based on his wife’s name at So Deeds AZ:005 in 1731. I do know (by an annotation at So Rent Rolls 09:087, item 5, tract WRINGTON) that the well-known Quaker Benjamin Cottman’s widow became Benjamin Nesham’s wife. The legend at So Rent Rolls 09:033, item 3, for Cottman’s tract BERKS, also says “poss. by Cottman's heirs or Benjamin Nesham in their right, who m. the widow”, and So Deeds L1:202 says that on 12 Jun 1694 Benjamin Cottman et ux. Mary Cottman sold this to John Booth, which seems to indicate that Nesham’s wife and Cottman’s widow was Mary, but the record is an anachronism with the Rent Roll notation. It is not clear, though, why Mary would have had an interest in RICH SWAMP and MEECHES HOPE motivating the deed form there.> > John> > ***************************************> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING?> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ:> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009

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Elizabeth .... From the written records of the "Founding Fathers" it's clear they were thinking of the generations to follow. When a lone planter was isolated and ill, it's understandable that there were more immediate and serious concerns. However since a will can be among the best one or two top clues for filling in the blanks, it's difficult for us not to feel chagrin :-) :-) when confronted with an abbreviated document. And none of the above is news to anyone. Joe Lake > Some wills were dictated at nearly the last breath, and therefore no time > was wasted on any extra words. The worst are those who leave "everything to my > wife, so she can take care of the children". No doubt someone knew who > these people were, but I certainly don't! > > Elizabeth > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De > cemailfooterNO62) > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Need information about - John Winfield Mills, aka - Wynn Mills. Born abt 1866 , Maryland. It is possible he was born near Bishops Head or Robbins area. abt 1887 he was married to Wilhelmina Bramble and they had eight children - five sons - 1. Thomas J. 2. John Milton 3. Coldy ( unsure abt. spelling ) 4. Preston Winfield 5. Holliday aka "Ollie" and three daughters - !. Addie L. 2. Florence aka "Melly " and 3. Viona. I would like to have as much info about this family as possible know to complete this section of my family tree. Thanks Sylvia

Some wills were dictated at nearly the last breath, and therefore no time was wasted on any extra words. The worst are those who leave "everything to my wife, so she can take care of the children". No doubt someone knew who these people were, but I certainly don't! Elizabeth **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)

<joslake@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >John Lyon and/or listers: > >The elongated subject line above probably is it's own answer, but in the context of >John Lyons' response re Richard Lockwood, what reaction would result from a 1741 Ssx >Co will which omitted the usual "bad health but sound mind" terminology; first named >two executors; then phoenetically spelled an unintelligible spouses name; named 5 >children; briefly mentioned "tenements and real estate" but omitted any & all ID of >same, and that was about it. <snip> ______________ I’m not sure what you’re reading into the will that would make it particularly different from a lot of other wills that are vague or baffling in a whole variety of ways. What seems opaque to us at 270 years’ remove could have been as clear as glass to the parties (legatees, probate court, other actors) who had to deal with it. In trying to construct accurate title histories for many properties, I often find the lack of specificity in wills to be a big hurdle. It’s often necessary to undertake a complete analysis of several properties held at death, including the tracing of subsequent title, to deduce what was meant by the testator, and which way all his real estate went. There are a lot of tricks to this detective game, and not everything comes easy. At the same time, the hardest of the nuts often bear the best fruit, in that the effort forces you into deeper digging. This is called by Monty Python "looking on the bright side of life", one of my most-invoked t! unes when digging in these ditches. John

mike hilton <jmh963@hotmail.com> wrote: > in several deeds I have noticed the husband and wife conveying property together and was wondering if that implied the wife might have an interest other than her dower right in the property? > >For example, Benajmin Nesham and his wife Mary conveyed together to William Vaughan in Liber IKL 174 & 175 > >Also, in William Vaughan and his wife Mary conveyed together the Westernmost half of Meeches Hope and Rich Swamp to Thomas Shurman in the formulary: <snip> _________________ This form of deed (from man and wife) inevitably means she held some separate rights, which were almost surely brought by her into the marriage by bequest, inheritance or other means. Strictly speaking, under English law her husband became the owner of such property, but the MD rules of deed construction seem consistently to require the wife’s name to be added to the grantor list on disposal of the land. For identity of Mary Vaughan, I have no immediate evidence, just some surrounding stuff. Benjamin Nesham’s first wife was Elizabeth Jamison, daughter of Alexander Jamison. She had died, and Nesham’s widow Mary of So Deeds IK:174 is named in MD Accounts 32B:123 as his executrix, and a Quaker. It is imaginable, I suppose, that Mary subsequently m. William Vaughan, but this is just a speculative possibility based on his wife’s name at So Deeds AZ:005 in 1731. I do know (by an annotation at So Rent Rolls 09:087, item 5, tract WRINGTON) that the well-known Quaker Benjamin Cottman’s widow became Benjamin Nesham’s wife. The legend at So Rent Rolls 09:033, item 3, for Cottman’s tract BERKS, also says “poss. by Cottman's heirs or Benjamin Nesham in their right, who m. the widow”, and So Deeds L1:202 says that on 12 Jun 1694 Benjamin Cottman et ux. Mary Cottman sold this to John Booth, which seems to indicate that Nesham’s wife and Cottman’s widow was Mary, ! but the record is an anachronism with the Rent Roll notation. It is not clear, though, why Mary would have had an interest in RICH SWAMP and MEECHES HOPE motivating the deed form there. John

I think you have all the Lockwood/Logwood entries in Worcester in the period you ask about. BALD BEACH was located out on Assateague Island. The old surveys out there are hard to place on today’s maps, as the barrier islands have undergone constant transformation. Roughly, though, the site was on the southeast side of Sinepuxent Bay, along the length of MD Route 611 along the island. If you mean Samuel Hopkins’ and Joshua Robinson’s CHANCE, it’s Worcester Unpatented Certificate 284, and was just a tad south of LOCKWOODS ADVENTURE (“where you reside”), laid out in 1749. It was overwhelmed by a replacement survey in 1753 for non-payment of fees (see Wo Certificate 2297, SELF DEFENCE) by James Johnson, and patented by James Rownd. John "marjorie adams" <marjea@wildblue.net> wrote: >John, >Thank you for the details of your search. >Did you come across any Lockwood/Logwood selling property in Worcester bet >1745-1755? >Additionally, do you have an approx. location for "Balld/Bald Beach"? [Wm >Walton and Richard Holland] and "Chance" [Samuel Hopkins]? > >Armwell m 1730/1 Mary Holland of Nehemiah of Richard (Nehemiah also had son >Richard).