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    1. Re: [LDR] Sale of Part of Bacon Quarter back to Jonathon Parsons
    2. mike hilton
    3. Thank for giving me all of this informatiopn John. I really appreciate it more than you can know and did not consider why George Smith would have occupied 1626 Acres of land, which seems to have been quite a lot of land but if it was all poor quality land or timberland that seems understandable and logical Again, thank you. Mike Hilton> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 07:07:32 -0500> From: Johnlyon0@cs.com> To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [LDR] Sale of Part of Bacon Quarter back to Jonathon Parsons> > mike hilton <jmh963@hotmail.com> wrote:> > >> >Thanks for the information, John about the Patented Certificates of resurvey, I know that one of the tracts absorbed into Bacon Quarter was called Deficiency, and 1626 Acres is quite a large amount of land from my viewpoint.> >> >Do you know if George Smith Sr. was growing either Tobacco or Wheat on that large of an acreage? Originally, I had no idea that he owned that much land, I thought he had just a couple of hundred acres and was perhaps a small or middling planter as such.> >> >It would be interesting if there was a surviving archive of Smith family papers or other family papers and letters from the mid to late 1700s. Do they have many surviving family archives from that time period in Delmarva that you are aware of? I've got a copy of the Nelms Store Accounts and found them to be quite interesting.> >> > ________________> > You seem to have misconstrued the term “deficiency” in the Wo Cert 237 plat legend as meaning a tract. Here, it’s a surveyor’s statement that the parent tract was originally computed as 596 acres, but the present surveyor finds only 591, thus “a deficiency” of 5 acres. Then he proceeded to take away interferences with three other actual properties and add several vacancies:> > This 1771 resurvey is defined as a resurvey of BACON QUARTER (25 Mar 1767, George Smith, 596 ac, found = 591) less 3.25 by CAMP less 18.5 by WALLACES ADVENTURE less 12.5 by CAPE BRETTON + 1069.5 ac vacancy in three components, as rendered on the plat and the affiliated course tables.> > Typically, otherwise and generally, a deficiency was an attribute of a warrant rectifying a shortfall in qualifying acreage for some previous survey, e.g., because the earlier survey had been discovered to have laid out interfering with some “elder survey”. The grantee would be authorized by a “warrant of deficiency” to new rights in the amount of the lost territory. This typically resulted in the seeking of a new survey, often adding contiguous vacancy to a party’s established land. > > You’re thinking in 21st century terms about the land. This is all much too complicated to go into here, but simply put, the local government perceived, for taxation purposes, that land would be assessed as cultivated, pasture (meadow), timber land, and swamp or marsh, at differing rates, also modulated by quality metrics. An ancient landholder was hardly likely to have cultivated 1626 acres surrounding his farmhouse, for many reasons, beginning with the ludicrous infeasibility. He needed timber land for wood to burn and otherwise exploit, like for fencing, construction (and sale). He needed pasture land for his livestock (sheep, cattle, horses, the odd goat and, of course, the kangaroos) and the ever-present foraging pigs. Typically, in the 17th and 18th centuries, only small fractions of large holdings were ever cleared for crops. > > The “1783 Assessments” for each county included the first complete rundown of land use and other household assessments for all properties. The index to these is at the MSA Web site, but to see the actual records, one must order the originals. There were similar sorts of things collected (and archived at MSA) in the 1790s and beyond. The 1783 Assessments list a gaggle of properties surrounding BACON QUARTER under George Smith’s name.> > Occasionally, one discovers in the (re)survey records a recapitulation of “improvements on the vacancy”,usually presented on the face of the plat. For the 1765 and 1771 BACON QUARTER resurveys, a total of 13 acres (12 + 1) of cultivated land is mentioned in the improvements recap. Take a look.> > As to what was being grown, the typical best source from official records might be an estate inventory, in which crops or other data might inform.> > As to surviving family papers, prospective sources are the Special Collections at the MSA (which include a number of private submissions that the Archives dutifully preserves; google their site under your names of interest), the family files at the MD Historical Society, and the Nabb Center. > > As to the 1626 acre BACON QUARTER itself, “special conditions” which apply here include the understanding that this land, several miles east of Salisbury, had gone unclaimed for over a century after first county settlement. This whole region was among the last land in the county to be taken up. Why? Primarily because it was in the “central highlands”, so to speak, without access to navigable or even much useable water. It lay between the heads of the tributaries of the Pocomoke and the Wicomico Rivers, in what was called The Wicomico Forest. The sense would be that it was wooded and not then seen as a good place for farming, or getting one’s goods to market. The land quality may also have played, but this would be a better topic for an agronomist to field. My lay inference, though, is that it was probably more acquired for its timber resources than for its farming potential.> > You’re now on your own. Good luck!> > John> > ***************************************> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING?> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ:> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™ Hotmail®: Chat. Store. Share. Do more with mail. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_hm_justgotbetter_explore_012009

    01/19/2009 04:26:11
    1. Re: [LDR] Sale of Part of Bacon Quarter back to JonathonParsons/Use and Move On Farming
    2. Dave... I must be in an "expansive" mood this evening, so I'll add a brief :-) comment to your first paragraph below (incidentally I found the John Lyon comments highly interesting). Several years ago I was in Fauquier Co & (new) Rappahannock Co Va on a research trip. I stopped along the road and spoke with an orchardist (apples) and we got around to land. We were on the close eastern edge of the Blue Ridge and he gestured to the small mountains behind us and said "those hills used to be farmed intensively to the very top, and now look at them" (they were covered with timber, obviously having been allowed to revert to their natural, original state). Apparently the late comers in the initial emigrations to Virginia, and the less well financed farmers were forced to the hilltop land (the better farmlands were no longer available except at high prices) where agriculture, and thus financial, results were less robust. Thus when the lands in Ohio and Kentucky opened, the hilltopper farmers abandoned the hilltops and went West. Joe Lake > John Lyon wrote: >>> An ancient landholder was hardly likely to have cultivated > 1626 acres surrounding his farmhouse, for many reasons, ... . He needed timber > land for wood to burn and otherwise exploit, like for fencing, construction (and > sale). He needed pasture land for his livestock (sheep, cattle, horses, the odd > goat and, of course, the kangaroos) and the ever-present foraging pigs. Typically, > in the 17th and 18th centuries, only small fractions of large holdings were ever > cleared for crops.<<< > __________________ > > John is directing his comments at the 1600s and 1700s. Generally, though, it could > be a bit risky to assume that the percentage of cleared land or land in cultivation > over the years in a given area in America always has progressed steadily upward. > > A quick look online for some sources addressing agricultural history in the > mid-Atlantic British colonies turned up several possible interesting reads, > including Philip Alexander Bruce's "Economic History of Virginia in the Seventeenth > Century: An Inquiry into the Material Condition of the People, Based Upon Original > and Contemporaneous Records" (1896), presented online at > www.dinsdoc.com/bruce-1-0b.htm. > > Bruce mirrors what John has suggested concerning the percentage of land in > cultivation in the time period under discussion -- at least in Virginia along the > lower James River. Bruce points out that in the late 1600s -- nearly 100 years > after Jamestown's settlement -- even Virginia's most densely populated areas still > resembled wilderness, with "[t]he high lands ... concealed by a heavy growth of > trees, and the low grounds consisted largely of forest and marsh." He continues > that, "The proportion of open fields on these plantations was barely one-fifth of > the whole." > > The author explains that inexpensive "virgin soil" coupled with a lack of use of > developing soil science were primary contributing factors. Farming tended to use > and discard land (topsoil), with settlement moving outward to use previously > unfarmed lands ... such that much of the settled area NOT in cropland in 1700 was, > in fact, former cropland no longer productive and allowed to grow over. This use > and discard approach might have been particularly pronounced in central and > southeastern Virginia's tobacco-driven agriculture of the period. > > Bruce points out that wheat was the first crop grown in Virginia by the colonists > (page 424). > > He also tells a story about a clergyman and an overseer, not so different than the > story Susan Wheary related. And, again, the clergyman proved correct! (see pages > 432-34). > > Dave K > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/19/2009 03:44:58
    1. [LDR] Smith
    2. Does anyone know anything about Minos (as) Smith who married Sallie Mitchell (daughter of Burton) about 1870 in Sussex or Worcester. Sallie was born 1843 and died 1928 in Salisbury. She was in Whaleyville in 1850 census and married Elijah Hobbs after Minos (as) death. Jerrod Godin Lahaska, PA **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)

    01/19/2009 01:36:11
    1. Re: [LDR] Sale of Part of Bacon Quarter back to Jonathon Parsons/Use and Move On Farming
    2. Dave & Jane Kearney
    3. John Lyon wrote: >>> An ancient landholder was hardly likely to have cultivated 1626 acres surrounding his farmhouse, for many reasons, ... . He needed timber land for wood to burn and otherwise exploit, like for fencing, construction (and sale). He needed pasture land for his livestock (sheep, cattle, horses, the odd goat and, of course, the kangaroos) and the ever-present foraging pigs. Typically, in the 17th and 18th centuries, only small fractions of large holdings were ever cleared for crops.<<< __________________ John is directing his comments at the 1600s and 1700s. Generally, though, it could be a bit risky to assume that the percentage of cleared land or land in cultivation over the years in a given area in America always has progressed steadily upward. A quick look online for some sources addressing agricultural history in the mid-Atlantic British colonies turned up several possible interesting reads, including Philip Alexander Bruce's "Economic History of Virginia in the Seventeenth Century: An Inquiry into the Material Condition of the People, Based Upon Original and Contemporaneous Records" (1896), presented online at www.dinsdoc.com/bruce-1-0b.htm. Bruce mirrors what John has suggested concerning the percentage of land in cultivation in the time period under discussion -- at least in Virginia along the lower James River. Bruce points out that in the late 1600s -- nearly 100 years after Jamestown's settlement -- even Virginia's most densely populated areas still resembled wilderness, with "[t]he high lands ... concealed by a heavy growth of trees, and the low grounds consisted largely of forest and marsh." He continues that, "The proportion of open fields on these plantations was barely one-fifth of the whole." The author explains that inexpensive "virgin soil" coupled with a lack of use of developing soil science were primary contributing factors. Farming tended to use and discard land (topsoil), with settlement moving outward to use previously unfarmed lands ... such that much of the settled area NOT in cropland in 1700 was, in fact, former cropland no longer productive and allowed to grow over. This use and discard approach might have been particularly pronounced in central and southeastern Virginia's tobacco-driven agriculture of the period. Bruce points out that wheat was the first crop grown in Virginia by the colonists (page 424). He also tells a story about a clergyman and an overseer, not so different than the story Susan Wheary related. And, again, the clergyman proved correct! (see pages 432-34). Dave K

    01/19/2009 12:47:29
    1. Re: [LDR] The Name LEVIN
    2. I find it interesting that you said some of your ancestors were of Dutch ancestory. According to my English/ Dutch dictionary, "Leven" is one of the words used for 'life" In a message dated 1/17/2009 7:56:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jmh963@hotmail.com writes: Thanks for the infrormation John about the name Levin. I was curious because I have not run across that name previously and thought it might have been a name particular to the Delmarva Region. Most of my ancestors that settled on the Eastern Seaboard settled in the area between North Carolina and Maryland in the 1600s-1700s with some Dutch ancestors settling in New Amsterdam & Fort Orange and then moving south as well as my share of Pennsylvannia Germans and French settles in Louisiana. Thanks, Mike> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 02:10:46 -0500> From: Johnlyon0@cs.com> To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [LDR] The Name LEVIN> > mike hilton <jmh963@hotmail.com> wrote:> > >I've noticed in the Delmarva Region that the name Levin, has been used since the early 1700s and was wondering with whom the name Levin originated? There is a Levin Vaughan, Levin Smith, Levin Gale, Levin Dashiell, & others in the 1700s and 1800s and was wondering if anyone had any ideas about the name Levin and its use in the Delmarva peninsula.> > __________> > It's an old Hebrew name, akin to Levi and thus "Biblical". Surely the earliest Levin on Delmarva was the Quaker Levin Denwood of Accomack and Northampton (b. 1603, per Torrence), whose son Levin came to Monie in Somerset ca 1665 with other Quaker exiles from VA, inspiring in-family namings of Levin Covington, Levin Gale, etc. It appears in many, many Somerset famiiies.> > I have Levins in my ancestry in colonial New York and New England, too. It's not that rare. Not like Affradozy and Zorobabel, which are pearls of great price.> > John> ***************************************> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING?> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ:> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_012009 *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)

    01/19/2009 12:25:58
    1. Re: [LDR] Wheat or Tobacco
    2. Susan Wheary
    3. Here's a thought - Maybe the wheat field in question was actually very small, but that particular property (formerly mentioned) was the best place for it, and it WAS important to have at least some wheat. To put the size of the field in perspective, there's an anecdote in a book re the church founded by my ancestors in Virginia mentions that one man (in the late 1870s or early 1880s) had a five acre wheat field and was short of help to harvest it (no McCormick reapers here!). The minister offered to do it and said he could cut it in a day. No one believed him, as they were using old-fashioned cradles in that area, and the man offered the preacher $5 if he could make good. He did, and it was often mentioned as "the greatest wheat harvest" in that length of time that any of the neighborhood had ever seen. The preacher had worked all of a moonlit night and had it all down by breakfast. Susan in Missouri -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Thompson Jay Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 7:23 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Wheat or Tobacco Just a note. ref. About.com-Cyrus McCormick Was from Virginia and invented his reaper in 1831 and was mass manufacturering them in Chicago in 1847. Jay Thompson ----- Original Message ---- From: Nancy and Dave Lindroth <nlindroth@wctel.net> To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 8:11:14 PM Subject: [LDR] Wheat or Tobacco Ref difficulty in growing wheat..... Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:16:25 +0000 From: mike hilton <jmh963@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [LDR] Sale of Part of Bacon Quarter / Wheat or Tobacco? I attended a Seminar a number of years ago where a speaker on migration spoke about the wheat in the midwest. The wheat in the midwest may have been an entirely different crop from that on the eastern shore. Many soil and weather differences. The sod in the mid west was very difficult to penetrate, thus the term sod busters. The beer industry developed in the midwest because the German's brought in "Black Wheat" which grew well in the mid west. I hope I have remembered all of this correctly. You may want to check with Extension Offices in each state for verification. Of course wheat harvesting changed dramatically after Cyrus McCormick invented the reaper in the late 1800s, which is out of your time frame. Nancy, Augusta, GA *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/19/2009 03:30:36
    1. Re: [LDR] The William Vaughan line - another possibility
    2. Ed Vaughn
    3. HI George and Jim, I remember one of you telling me how the person below is related to the Vaughan tree, but I seem to have lost that email. From the information below, I surmise that his father was William Vaughan 1685-1742. I am very confused. (Also, I have run across an Edward Vaughan, Will made Jan. 10,1782 (listed p.141 Calender of Sussex Cty. Probate Records) Heirs: Bro. Joseph Vaughan; Sister Mary Polk; nephew Jonathan Vaughan Woodgate. Exec'r, Bro.-in-law William Polk. Estate settled Nov. 10,1791. At this time, I can not relate this person to the Vaughan tree as I know it.) From the information below, Jim, do you have birth and death dates for the Levin who died intestate? I can not figure out which Levin that was. Again my thanks to you, Ed Vaughn www.vaughnfarm.org Jim Blackwell wrote: >I have had a different perspective on Betty Waples daughter of Paul Waples >and Temperence Derrickson... First: I think that Paul and Temprance were >born around 1710 and Betty in the mid 1730s... Second: I think Betty married >William Vaughan bef. Jan. 8, 1757 with Wm passing bef. March 15, 1775 as >seen thru the will of Betty's mother Temperance Waples who says Betty is >now the widow of William Vaughan.(will transcribed below noting Wm is >deceased). There is at least a possibility that she then married Levin >Vaughan, probable cousin to Wm. Vaughan, dec'd. My wife's line comes from >this union with Charles and Samuel Vaughan as issue. Then Levin died >intestate in or before 1779... At one time I thought she may have quickly >married a Jesse King and died shortly thereafter but the will indicates that >Betty King (late Betty Vaughan) also had a son John Burton.. (The Burton >surname did continue down another generation however as Joseph Burton >Vaughan was born abt. 1797 and he named a daughter after his great aunt, >Nancy Derrickson Vaughan who married Edward Parker McCauley - my wife's >surname).. Anyway, obviously there is considerable confusion over this line >and with so many Vaughans named Charles, William, and Levin, it is no >wonder. If anyone has a better idea, I would love to hear it... Here is the >transcribed will: > > > >

    01/19/2009 02:32:07
    1. Re: [LDR] Marvel
    2. Michelle Burris Kenerly
    3. Sue.... Go on line and enter the authors name and you may see Amazon.ca.Books Regards, Michelle ----- Original Message ----- From: <WildHareSR@aol.com> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:13 AM Subject: [LDR] Marvel > Does anyone know where I can get access to a copy of "The Marvel Family: > The Path to Delaware" by Donald Odell Virdin? It is cited as a source > and I > have been unable to locate it. > Thanks, > Sue Rowdon > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 > easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De > cemailfooterNO62) > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.9/1902 - Release Date: 1/19/2009 9:37 AM

    01/19/2009 01:54:58
    1. [LDR] Marvel
    2. Does anyone know where I can get access to a copy of "The Marvel Family: The Path to Delaware" by Donald Odell Virdin? It is cited as a source and I have been unable to locate it. Thanks, Sue Rowdon **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)

    01/19/2009 01:13:01
    1. Re: [LDR] The Clarke Family of Virginia and Somerset County, Maryland
    2. Freda Daniel
    3. Mike,   I have searched for the Clarke and Cox families with no success.  We know they came from VA, probably Accomac but haven't found them there either.  There was a Thomas Cocks in Goochland but haven't been able to connect to him.  I'll keep trying.   Freda Daniel --- On Sun, 1/18/09, mike hilton <jmh963@hotmail.com> wrote: From: mike hilton <jmh963@hotmail.com> Subject: [LDR] The Clarke Family of Virginia and Somerset County, Maryland To: "mike hilton" <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, January 18, 2009, 4:24 PM I was wondering if anyone while I was speculating had worked on the Clarke family of Virginia and Somerset County, Maryland? I descend from Rebecca Clarke [Ca. 1648/50-Ca. 1712?] who married Thomas Cox Sr. [Ca. 1646/7-1724]. She came to Somerset County, Maryland "From Virginia" in 1671 witht her brother Daniel Clarke [Ca. 1640/5-Ca. 1680s]. Daniel Clarke, was married and patented a tract of land called "Maidenhead" . He and his wife both evidently, died intestate and Rebecca Clarke Cox inherited "Maidenhead" which she and Thomas Cox sold, source" Somerset County Judicial Records. {I would cite the exact date & an abstract but don't have that file with me!] I have looked in the available secondary source material for Northampton Co. Virginia and Accomack Co. Virginia and have found nothing. Anyone have any opinions? Could Maidenhead have been a place on the Western Shore of Virginia ? I know there is a village in Berkshire, England called Maidenhead but am not sure if it would be worth my while to investigate their records if they are available through the LDS libary. Any ideas or thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike Hilton _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™ Hotmail®: Chat. Store. Share. Do more with mail. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_hm_justgotbetter_explore_012009 *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/19/2009 12:51:14
    1. Re: [LDR] Sale of Part of Bacon Quarter back to Jonathon Parsons
    2. mike hilton <jmh963@hotmail.com> wrote: > >Thanks for the information, John about the Patented Certificates of resurvey, I know that one of the tracts absorbed into Bacon Quarter was called Deficiency, and 1626 Acres is quite a large amount of land from my viewpoint. > >Do you know if George Smith Sr. was growing either Tobacco or Wheat on that large of an acreage? Originally, I had no idea that he owned that much land, I thought he had just a couple of hundred acres and was perhaps a small or middling planter as such. > >It would be interesting if there was a surviving archive of Smith family papers or other family papers and letters from the mid to late 1700s. Do they have many surviving family archives from that time period in Delmarva that you are aware of? I've got a copy of the Nelms Store Accounts and found them to be quite interesting. > ________________ You seem to have misconstrued the term “deficiency” in the Wo Cert 237 plat legend as meaning a tract. Here, it’s a surveyor’s statement that the parent tract was originally computed as 596 acres, but the present surveyor finds only 591, thus “a deficiency” of 5 acres. Then he proceeded to take away interferences with three other actual properties and add several vacancies: This 1771 resurvey is defined as a resurvey of BACON QUARTER (25 Mar 1767, George Smith, 596 ac, found = 591) less 3.25 by CAMP less 18.5 by WALLACES ADVENTURE less 12.5 by CAPE BRETTON + 1069.5 ac vacancy in three components, as rendered on the plat and the affiliated course tables. Typically, otherwise and generally, a deficiency was an attribute of a warrant rectifying a shortfall in qualifying acreage for some previous survey, e.g., because the earlier survey had been discovered to have laid out interfering with some “elder survey”. The grantee would be authorized by a “warrant of deficiency” to new rights in the amount of the lost territory. This typically resulted in the seeking of a new survey, often adding contiguous vacancy to a party’s established land. You’re thinking in 21st century terms about the land. This is all much too complicated to go into here, but simply put, the local government perceived, for taxation purposes, that land would be assessed as cultivated, pasture (meadow), timber land, and swamp or marsh, at differing rates, also modulated by quality metrics. An ancient landholder was hardly likely to have cultivated 1626 acres surrounding his farmhouse, for many reasons, beginning with the ludicrous infeasibility. He needed timber land for wood to burn and otherwise exploit, like for fencing, construction (and sale). He needed pasture land for his livestock (sheep, cattle, horses, the odd goat and, of course, the kangaroos) and the ever-present foraging pigs. Typically, in the 17th and 18th centuries, only small fractions of large holdings were ever cleared for crops. The “1783 Assessments” for each county included the first complete rundown of land use and other household assessments for all properties. The index to these is at the MSA Web site, but to see the actual records, one must order the originals. There were similar sorts of things collected (and archived at MSA) in the 1790s and beyond. The 1783 Assessments list a gaggle of properties surrounding BACON QUARTER under George Smith’s name. Occasionally, one discovers in the (re)survey records a recapitulation of “improvements on the vacancy”,usually presented on the face of the plat. For the 1765 and 1771 BACON QUARTER resurveys, a total of 13 acres (12 + 1) of cultivated land is mentioned in the improvements recap. Take a look. As to what was being grown, the typical best source from official records might be an estate inventory, in which crops or other data might inform. As to surviving family papers, prospective sources are the Special Collections at the MSA (which include a number of private submissions that the Archives dutifully preserves; google their site under your names of interest), the family files at the MD Historical Society, and the Nabb Center. As to the 1626 acre BACON QUARTER itself, “special conditions” which apply here include the understanding that this land, several miles east of Salisbury, had gone unclaimed for over a century after first county settlement. This whole region was among the last land in the county to be taken up. Why? Primarily because it was in the “central highlands”, so to speak, without access to navigable or even much useable water. It lay between the heads of the tributaries of the Pocomoke and the Wicomico Rivers, in what was called The Wicomico Forest. The sense would be that it was wooded and not then seen as a good place for farming, or getting one’s goods to market. The land quality may also have played, but this would be a better topic for an agronomist to field. My lay inference, though, is that it was probably more acquired for its timber resources than for its farming potential. You’re now on your own. Good luck! John

    01/19/2009 12:07:32
    1. Re: [LDR] Judith Smith & Wm Sharpe
    2. Gwen Hignutt-Wint
    3. Hello Freda, Do you have the family of Daniel Saulsbury Smith 1800/1860 who married Rachel Cheesum born about 1805? Their son James Washington Smith 2-14-1822 married Mary E. Todd 1828/8-1-1900. Their children were Adah E. Smith, Martha A. Smith, George F. Smith, Charles W. Smith & Willard T. Smith...  Adah is my gg-grandmother and is buried in Bloomery Cemetery, outside Denton, Md.  I have many Todd lines, but only one other Smith line Elinor Smith 1630/1685 who married Henry Hayman 1632/1685. He was born in England but their son Henry II was born in Va. I am mostly interested in this first Smith Line and have searched many times finding nothing more. Do you have anything on this particular line? thank you, Gwen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Freda Daniel" <ftdan2@sbcglobal.net> To: "Lower-Delmarva-Roots" <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 3:44:03 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [LDR] Judith Smith & Wm Sharpe Judith Smith and William Sharpe moved to Meriwether Co, GA.  There he served as a Methodist minister.  His obit was in the Southern Christian Advocate.   I have done quite a bit of research in MD and think I have the Smiths, Turners, and Cox families straight or as straight as possible.   Freda Daniel *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/18/2009 03:52:44
    1. [LDR] The Clarke Family of Virginia and Somerset County, Maryland
    2. mike hilton
    3. I was wondering if anyone while I was speculating had worked on the Clarke family of Virginia and Somerset County, Maryland? I descend from Rebecca Clarke [Ca. 1648/50-Ca. 1712?] who married Thomas Cox Sr. [Ca. 1646/7-1724]. She came to Somerset County, Maryland "From Virginia" in 1671 witht her brother Daniel Clarke [Ca. 1640/5-Ca. 1680s]. Daniel Clarke, was married and patented a tract of land called "Maidenhead" . He and his wife both evidently, died intestate and Rebecca Clarke Cox inherited "Maidenhead" which she and Thomas Cox sold, source" Somerset County Judicial Records. {I would cite the exact date & an abstract but don't have that file with me!] I have looked in the available secondary source material for Northampton Co. Virginia and Accomack Co. Virginia and have found nothing. Anyone have any opinions? Could Maidenhead have been a place on the Western Shore of Virginia ? I know there is a village in Berkshire, England called Maidenhead but am not sure if it would be worth my while to investigate their records if they are available through the LDS libary. Any ideas or thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike Hilton _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™ Hotmail®: Chat. Store. Share. Do more with mail. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_hm_justgotbetter_explore_012009

    01/18/2009 03:24:16
    1. Re: [LDR] Sale of Part of Bacon Quarter / Wheat or Tobacco? Or?
    2. mike hilton
    3. Hi Jake, Thank you for the information about growing wheat and its difficulty. I don't think you are a know it all and really appreciate the information. I'm sure that I sometimes sound like a know it all myself. I was just speculating based on something I recall reading about the Tobacco economy of the Eastern Shore collapsing in the 1700s and being replaced by growing of Wheat.. Hmmm. I wonder if there were other alternate uses for land in the Eastern Shore in the 1700s... I know at Rapides Post, in Central Louisiana they used the sap from pine trees to produce tar for naval stores, grew rice and in the late 1770s Tobacco but the Louisiana Tobacco marked collapsed in the early 1790s... > From: joslake@sbcglobal.net> To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:57:10 -0800> Subject: Re: [LDR] Sale of Part of Bacon Quarter back to Jonathon Parsons> > Mike Hilton .... RE 1626 acres and "growing wheat".> > This is not intended to sound "know it all", but as a native and former resident of > the Great Plains of the US (i.e. Wheat country) I can comment that one farmer or one > farmer and five sons would find it very hard work (because of the nature of wheat > growing and the fact that they employed only hand tools in the time period you are > referencing) to plant, and especially harvest, 100 acres of wheat (let along 1626, > which would not have been possible w/o a VERY large labor force). While > pontificating, this further....wheat has a more limited time period for cutting and > threshing. It cannot be left in the field (the stalks would shortly lose strength > and the whole crop would soon be flat on the ground) as corn was sometimes handled, > back in the days of hand shucking the ear from the stalk. :-) :-)> > Joe Lake> > Thanks for the information, John about the Patented Certificates of resurvey, I know > that one of the tracts absorbed into Bacon Quarter was called Deficiency, and 1626 > Acres is quite a large amount of land from my viewpoint.> > Do you know if George Smith Sr. was growing either Tobacco or Wheat on that large of > an acreage? Originally, I had no idea that he owned that much land, I thought he had > just a couple of hundred acres and was perhaps a small or middling planter as such.> > It would be interesting if there was a surviving archive of Smith family papers or > other family papers and letters from the mid to late 1700s. Do they have many > surviving family archives from that time period in Delmarva that you are aware of? > I've got a copy of the Nelms Store Accounts and found them to be quite interesting.> > Thanks, Mike> > Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 07:48:05 -0500> From: Johnlyon0@cs.com> To: > > lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [LDR] Sale of Part of Bacon Quarter > > back to Jonathon Parsons> > mike hilton <jmh963@hotmail.com> wrote:> > >> >Bacon > > Quarter was originally 200 Acres but must have been increased considerably by > > George Smith Sr. as he sells in Liber I: 405-406, to Elisha Parker 435 Acres of > > land part of Bacon Quarter containing 1626 Acres of Land... <snip>> > ___________> > > > See> Worcester Patented Certificate # 235, the 1765 resurvey for 596 acres for > > George Smith> and > Worcester Patented Certificate # 237, the 1771 resurvey for > > 1626 acres for George Smith.> > For this last resurvey, the following deeds appear > > before the Revolution:> > Wo Deeds I:118. 05 Aug 1772 (100 ac) from George Smith, > > Sr. to George Smith (blacksmith)> Wo Deeds I:397. 05 Apr 1774 (342 ac) from George > > Smith, Sr. to Jacob Parker> Wo Deeds I:398. 05 Apr 1774 (365 ac in three parts) > > from George Smith, Sr. to son Levin Smith> Wo Deeds I:399. 05 Apr 1774 (112 ac) > > from George Smith, Sr. to Solomon Smith> Wo Deeds I:400. 05 Apr 1774 (22 ac) from > > George Smith, Sr. to Solomon Smith> Wo Deeds I:405. 05 Apr 1774 (435 ac) from > > George Smith to Elisha Parker (miller)> Wo Deeds I:625. 10 Jul 1775 (200 ac) from > > George Smith, Sr. to George Smith, Jr.> > John> > > > ***************************************> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, > > SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING?> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ:> > > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm> -------------------------------> To > > unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message> _________________________________________________________________> Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync.> http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_012009> ***************************************> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING?> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ:> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ***************************************> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING?> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ:> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009

    01/18/2009 03:16:25
    1. Re: [LDR] Nathan Frame and Smith Frame, 1754
    2. On 4 Aug. 1802 *a* Smith and *a* Nathan Frame purchased 640acres of land (Range #22, Township 3S, Section 8W, Pickaway Township, Pickaway County, Ohio). There were three co-purchasers of the land (which was purchased from a US Govt Land Office), the third being John Hopkins (son of John Hopkins) formerly of Sussex Co., DE. My research interest was John Hopkins, and I have never identified the Frames by age, parents, whatever. The record of this land acquisition can be found in the "Entrymen (Ohio) Series" by L. Richard Kocher. The LDS Library, Salt Lake call number for the book containing the above info is 971.1815 R2k. The three above named individuals also purchased approx 350acres of the adjoining section 9W, which Section 9W portion was bounded on it's west side by the Scioto River. Samuel Hopkins (brother of above John) came the same township/county several years later and was married to Jean (Simonton) Frame Hopkins. I do not have, recorded, any other Simonton or Frame information. Joe Lake > In the Will of Theophilus Simonton (his wife Marey or Mary was the sister of Archibald Smith, d. Sussex Co DE, 1729), Theophilus names Nathan and Smith Frame. Nathan is a Frame name, not a Simonton one. Theophilus Simonton's Will was written in Conestoga Manor, Lancaster Co PA in 1754. It was probated several years later in Rowan Co NC, after Theophilus died, the family moved to NC. Does anyone have any information or documentation where Nathan Frame and Smith Frame received their inheiritance? I suspect that the son of Theophilus and Marey Simonton, named Theophilus Simonton II, who died in Lancaster Co PA in 1750 wasmarried to a Frame. The Will of Theophilus Simonton, 1754, was signed by Patrtick D. Duffey (who appears to have come to NC with the Simontons) and John Love. > Jackie Helmke > Jhelmke@sbcglobal.net > This message has been screened by Norton > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/18/2009 02:26:34
    1. Re: [LDR] Sale of Part of Bacon Quarter back to Jonathon Parsons
    2. mike hilton
    3. Thanks for the information, John about the Patented Certificates of resurvey, I know that one of the tracts absorbed into Bacon Quarter was called Deficiency, and 1626 Acres is quite a large amount of land from my viewpoint. Do you know if George Smith Sr. was growing either Tobacco or Wheat on that large of an acreage? Originally, I had no idea that he owned that much land, I thought he had just a couple of hundred acres and was perhaps a small or middling planter as such. It would be interesting if there was a surviving archive of Smith family papers or other family papers and letters from the mid to late 1700s. Do they have many surviving family archives from that time period in Delmarva that you are aware of? I've got a copy of the Nelms Store Accounts and found them to be quite interesting. Thanks, Mike > Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 07:48:05 -0500> From: Johnlyon0@cs.com> To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [LDR] Sale of Part of Bacon Quarter back to Jonathon Parsons> > mike hilton <jmh963@hotmail.com> wrote:> > >> >Bacon Quarter was originally 200 Acres but must have been increased considerably by George Smith Sr. as he sells in Liber I: 405-406, to Elisha Parker 435 Acres of land part of Bacon Quarter containing 1626 Acres of Land... <snip>> > ___________> > See> Worcester Patented Certificate # 235, the 1765 resurvey for 596 acres for George Smith> and > Worcester Patented Certificate # 237, the 1771 resurvey for 1626 acres for George Smith.> > For this last resurvey, the following deeds appear before the Revolution:> > Wo Deeds I:118. 05 Aug 1772 (100 ac) from George Smith, Sr. to George Smith (blacksmith)> Wo Deeds I:397. 05 Apr 1774 (342 ac) from George Smith, Sr. to Jacob Parker> Wo Deeds I:398. 05 Apr 1774 (365 ac in three parts) from George Smith, Sr. to son Levin Smith> Wo Deeds I:399. 05 Apr 1774 (112 ac) from George Smith, Sr. to Solomon Smith> Wo Deeds I:400. 05 Apr 1774 (22 ac) from George Smith, Sr. to Solomon Smith> Wo Deeds I:405. 05 Apr 1774 (435 ac) from George Smith to Elisha Parker (miller)> Wo Deeds I:625. 10 Jul 1775 (200 ac) from George Smith, Sr. to George Smith, Jr.> > John> > ***************************************> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING?> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ:> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_012009

    01/18/2009 02:26:25
    1. [LDR] Wheat or Tobacco
    2. Nancy and Dave Lindroth
    3. Ref difficulty in growing wheat..... Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:16:25 +0000 From: mike hilton <jmh963@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [LDR] Sale of Part of Bacon Quarter / Wheat or Tobacco? I attended a Seminar a number of years ago where a speaker on migration spoke about the wheat in the midwest. The wheat in the midwest may have been an entirely different crop from that on the eastern shore. Many soil and weather differences. The sod in the mid west was very difficult to penetrate, thus the term sod busters. The beer industry developed in the midwest because the German's brought in "Black Wheat" which grew well in the mid west. I hope I have remembered all of this correctly. You may want to check with Extension Offices in each state for verification. Of course wheat harvesting changed dramatically after Cyrus McCormick invented the reaper in the late 1800s, which is out of your time frame. Nancy, Augusta, GA

    01/18/2009 01:11:14
    1. [LDR] Nathan Frame and Smith Frame, 1754
    2. Jackie Helmke
    3. In the Will of Theophilus Simonton (his wife Marey or Mary was the sister of Archibald Smith, d. Sussex Co DE, 1729), Theophilus names Nathan and Smith Frame. Nathan is a Frame name, not a Simonton one. Theophilus Simonton's Will was written in Conestoga Manor, Lancaster Co PA in 1754. It was probated several years later in Rowan Co NC, after Theophilus died, the family moved to NC. Does anyone have any information or documentation where Nathan Frame and Smith Frame received their inheiritance? I suspect that the son of Theophilus and Marey Simonton, named Theophilus Simonton II, who died in Lancaster Co PA in 1750 wasmarried to a Frame. The Will of Theophilus Simonton, 1754, was signed by Patrtick D. Duffey (who appears to have come to NC with the Simontons) and John Love. Jackie Helmke Jhelmke@sbcglobal.net This message has been screened by Norton

    01/18/2009 11:36:24
    1. [LDR] the Smiths
    2. Jackie Helmke
    3. Freda, you said you had a good history of the Smiths. In your information on the Smiths, is there an Archibald Smith, who d. 27 Nov 1729, Lewes, Sussex Co DE, left a Will. His wife was Isabella. In his Will he mentions his sister Marey (Mary) wife of Theophilus Simonton and their 6 children. Mentions his sister Rachel Curry of Ireland. Mentions his cousin Anne Simonton (was she the wife of Theophilus Simonton II-?);cousin James Smith (who lived with Archibald)and his sister Jennet Smith. Mentions Jane Thomson, dau of Rev John Thomson; mentions brother Robert Smith and his daus Mary and Anne Magdalen of North Ireland. Mentions cousins James Smith and Adam Smith of the Gleve in the Parish of Orney, Barony of Strabane, North Ireland. Mentions cousins Jannet Smith, dau of Robert Smith of Sussex Co DE; mentions "Uncle" Robert Peerie (?Pirrie)how was he an Uncle?); and James Barrs land (where was this?). He requests his friends, Robert Smith, Theophilus Simonton and Phillip Russel to help in execution of the Will. Witnesses: John Shankland, Wm. Molleston; Hil Russel. Would like to contact anyone researching any of these families. Thanks... Jackie Helmke Jhelmke@sbcglobal.net This message has been screened by Norton

    01/18/2009 11:24:15
    1. Re: [LDR] Wheat
    2. "Wheatfield" was taken up December 20, 1681, by William Emmett This is in now Kent, Delaware off the Mispillion River. It was originally about 87 acres. Interesting name if the grain was not grown there. Nearby was Goldenmine....both tracts are involved with the Masons of Delmarva. **************Inauguration '09: Get complete coverage from the nation's capital.(http://www.aol.com?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000027)

    01/18/2009 10:54:41