Is  wolf pit ridge in Sussex in the present day Dirickson Creek area or in Worcester county?  thanks Teresa

Please correct any assumptions on my part: This place in Sussex was once considered to be Worcester Co. There are still Lynches in Worcester around Berlin/Taylorville who are related to the descendants of the Lynches in Sussex and in fact have been in the Berlin area for some time. It makes sense that this is the same family as the area in question is "relatively" small. Since James H. married Prudence Parker if I can find out where her parents are, I will likely at least know the correct region that James was hanging around in prior to marriage.-The problem with this statement is that these people really got around. It is amazing how much ground they could cover and where they pop up. As a side question: I keep running into wills of folks who leave land in Dear Harbour. Is that anywhere near where present day Deer Harbour is in Wicomico Co.? According to Deer Harbour ledgend, there was an indian trail here that ran from present day Tony Tank through Deer Harbour  to the indian town just west of Snow Hill. Again, this is not really that as far a distance as it sounds. Thanks for your help Teresa ----- Original Message ----- From: Johnlyon0@cs.com To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 7:00:40 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [LDR] Indian Town marjorie adams <marjea@wildblue.net> wrote: >My understanding is that Indian Town was across the Pocomoke at Snow Hill. <snip> >On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 4:48 PM, <t.metz@comcast.net> wrote: > In investigating my Lynch clan, I keep running into the place named Indian >> Town. Was this to the west of Snow Hill at the big gathering area or >> elsewhere. <snip> ______________________________ Not so fast, everybody.  “Indian Town” was applied to any number of early native sites.  The most recognized are shown at: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mdsomers/lyonmaps/earlysomerset1.htm where #2 is Askiminikansen - the largest - north of the Pocomoke below Snow Hill. But this isn’t where the Lynches lived – they were in what’s now southern Sussex.  Several land record references place them along the head of “Indian Town Branch”, which is now Dirickson Creek into Little Assawoman Bay.   Along this creek was a small native settlement (not shown on my map, but another “town”), which was the home, from at least the 1670s, of the native group that moved by 1711 to take the patent at the site called ASKECEKY near Millsboro.  The first Maryland patents (1677) in southeastern Sussex mention the Indians at the earlier site.  In fact, the native presence was surely the motivation for establishing trading outposts there.  It wasn't for another decade that settlers from MD began to take up permanent residence there. By the time the Lynches arrived, that early town was gone, but the branch name survived through the colonial period.  But all things pass, and it's now Dirickson Branch. John *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anyone ever run into John and Joyce Smith, their son (I think) James and Merium Smith or Armwell Smith, son of Edward and Ann (Showell) Smith? Northampton, Accomack and Somerset before 1700. -- Marjorie "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke

John wrote: <snip>If I've overlooked something, to field your question about the many properties you list would basically require re-examining all of them - or Baltimore Hundred in toto - to look for a clue, which may not be there, anyway. Weeks or more of work, and prospective return on investment is very, very small. As a pragmatist who has also run into the end of the line in similar cases, I just don't have any further suggestions. My bag of tricks is exhausted. All barrels have a bottom, and this one has been scraped. John, I understood from the email before the above that "Patrick's Discovery" as such is unidentifiable. I never intended for you to spend weeks looking at all the names and properties I listed. My thought was that perhaps with all your research some of what I have put together might ring a bell for you. Even though you have no further suggestions for me I must pursue gathering what is available about the general location where Richard Lockwood lived and there is so much I do not know that is in your database. Would you be able to tell me: How far south of St. Martin's River did Showell's "Cropton" extend in today's terms? Where was Walton's "Neighborhood" in relation to Trappe? Where was/were the "Patrick's Lott" (s) detailed previously? Could a lease be acquired for oneself AND heirs, and then be "sold" for profit by the heirs? By 1740 when a property of 100A+ is found on plats.net assigned to an individual was it usually vacant up to that time or was it usually part of a larger property patented earlier? (I have seen deeds where the surveyor adds some vacant contiguous property but usually under 50A.) After 1776 when the properties patented in MD came under DE jurisdiction, was there any attempt to transfer original documents to DE or did they remain in the MD records? Oh to have access to your data! There has been discussion on this list in the past about your plans for making you data available for others to research. Do you have any definite plans to do so? You have compiled a treasure. On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:51 AM, <Johnlyon0@cs.com> wrote: > marjorie adams <marjea@wildblue.net> wrote: > > >The reason I continue to persist in this is my attempt to prove/disprove > the > >wife/wives of Richard Lockwood and thus his children and their parents. > His > >son Benjamin reported that he was raised at Trappe, the one near present > day > >Berlin. <snip> > > I applaud your enthusiasm, but at this point, I can only say that some > questions don't have answers within my data. The surviving records, while > extraordinary in their completeness, also have limits; various odds and ends > are missing, and clerical errors of one kind or another have misplaced or > mis-described things (some of which I can overcome with a global perspective > which allows correction of some single-point source mistake or omission). > If I've overlooked something, to field your question about the many > properties you list would basically require re-examining all of them - or > Baltimore Hundred in toto - to look for a clue, which may not be there, > anyway. Weeks or more of work, and prospective return on investment is > very, very small. > > As a pragmatist who has also run into the end of the line in similar cases, > I just don't have any further suggestions. My bag of tricks is exhausted. > All barrels have a bottom, and this one has been scraped. > > John > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Marjorie "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke

Good morning, Em, There's fresh snow on the ground here in Wilmington, I have a mug of coffee and a fresh package of Fudge Stripe cookies by my side and Dave Brubeck plays jazz in the background -- was there ever a better setting for genealogy research?!?! In what context do you find a Tabitha Fowler? There were several Arthurs. The daughter of one Arthur, Sally, married Solomon Layton of the St. Johnstown area. Solomon remains one of my major brick walls. I have constructed his branch, but can't attach it to the tree. Thanks for responding. Jim On 1/27/09, Emalu Simpson <emalu@intercom.net> wrote: > I have not studied the question carefully, but there is an Arthur Fowler > involved with Tabitha Fowler. Not sure if it is her husband. Does that ring > any bells? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Moore" <moorejl@gmail.com> > To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:27 PM > Subject: [LDR] FOWLER of northern Sussex > > > > Folks: Tabitha Layton, daughter of Louder Layton and Tabitha Laws of > > Milford, married a FOWLER about 1785. Seeking name of this Fowler. > > This marriage started interactions between Laytons and Fowlers that > > continued well into the 1800s. Recently found some Delaware Fowlers in > > Ohio, so I'm wondering if my inability to find this couple in DE might be > > because they immigrated westward ... along with about half of Delmarva! > > Jim Moore > > Wilmington > > > *************************************** > > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

marjorie adams <marjea@wildblue.net> wrote: >My understanding is that Indian Town was across the Pocomoke at Snow Hill. <snip> >On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 4:48 PM, <t.metz@comcast.net> wrote: > In investigating my Lynch clan, I keep running into the place named Indian >> Town. Was this to the west of Snow Hill at the big gathering area or >> elsewhere. <snip> ______________________________ Not so fast, everybody. “Indian Town” was applied to any number of early native sites. The most recognized are shown at: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mdsomers/lyonmaps/earlysomerset1.htm where #2 is Askiminikansen - the largest - north of the Pocomoke below Snow Hill. But this isn’t where the Lynches lived – they were in what’s now southern Sussex. Several land record references place them along the head of “Indian Town Branch”, which is now Dirickson Creek into Little Assawoman Bay. Along this creek was a small native settlement (not shown on my map, but another “town”), which was the home, from at least the 1670s, of the native group that moved by 1711 to take the patent at the site called ASKECEKY near Millsboro. The first Maryland patents (1677) in southeastern Sussex mention the Indians at the earlier site. In fact, the native presence was surely the motivation for establishing trading outposts there. It wasn't for another decade that settlers from MD began to take up permanent residence there. By the time the Lynches arrived, that early town was gone, but the branch name survived through the colonial period. But all things pass, and it's now Dirickson Branch. John

I have not studied the question carefully, but there is an Arthur Fowler involved with Tabitha Fowler. Not sure if it is her husband. Does that ring any bells? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Moore" <moorejl@gmail.com> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:27 PM Subject: [LDR] FOWLER of northern Sussex > Folks: Tabitha Layton, daughter of Louder Layton and Tabitha Laws of > Milford, married a FOWLER about 1785. Seeking name of this Fowler. > This marriage started interactions between Laytons and Fowlers that > continued well into the 1800s. Recently found some Delaware Fowlers in > Ohio, so I'm wondering if my inability to find this couple in DE might be > because they immigrated westward ... along with about half of Delmarva! > Jim Moore > Wilmington > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone give me specific reasons as to its name of Indian Town? Was there a reservation there at one point..? thanks, Gwen ----- Original Message ----- From: "ellen scott" <middletongirl@webtv.net> To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 5:32:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [LDR] Indian Town Indian town is just west of Snow Hil where Rt. 12 and Snow Hill Rd. Cross. -----Original Message----- From: t.metz@comcast.net Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:48 PM To: rootsweb lower delmarva Subject: [LDR] Indian Town In investigating my Lynch clan, I keep running into the place named Indian Town. Was this to the west of Snow Hill at the big gathering area or elsewhere. Is it close enough to St Martin's branch that the Abraham Linch/Lynch bunch and the Alexander Linch/Lynch bunch could be of the same family? I have a definite connection to a Jacob Lynch, his father being James, but I am looking for possibly/probably a cousin named James (married Prudence Parker). Either James' father would do nicely as I think they both lead to the same family core members. It seems these two families named their children the same names and it is logical that they are connected. A bigger mystery is how Wrixom fits in. He could be my Sasquatch. thanks for your help, Teresa *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Indian town is just west of Snow Hil where Rt. 12 and Snow Hill Rd. Cross. -----Original Message----- From: t.metz@comcast.net Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:48 PM To: rootsweb lower delmarva Subject: [LDR] Indian Town In investigating my Lynch clan, I keep running into the place named Indian Town. Was this to the west of Snow Hill at the big gathering area or elsewhere. Is it close enough to St Martin's branch that the Abraham Linch/Lynch bunch and the Alexander Linch/Lynch bunch could be of the same family? I have a definite connection to a Jacob Lynch, his father being James, but I am looking for possibly/probably a cousin named James (married Prudence Parker). Either James' father would do nicely as I think they both lead to the same family core members. It seems these two families named their children the same names and it is logical that they are connected. A bigger mystery is how Wrixom fits in. He could be my Sasquatch. thanks for your help, Teresa *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think the Indians were there before the Europeans settled at Snow Hill. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 9:58 PM, Gwen Hignutt-Wint <grwint@comcast.net>wrote: > > > Can anyone give me specific reasons as to its name of Indian Town? > > Was there a reservation there at one point..? > > > > thanks, > > Gwen > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ellen scott" <middletongirl@webtv.net> > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 5:32:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [LDR] Indian Town > > Indian town is just west of Snow Hil where > Rt. 12 and Snow Hill Rd. Cross. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: t.metz@comcast.net > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:48 PM > To: rootsweb lower delmarva > Subject: [LDR] Indian Town > > > > > In investigating my Lynch clan, I keep running into the place named Indian > Town. Was this to the west of Snow Hill at the big gathering area or > elsewhere. Is it close enough to St Martin's branch that the Abraham > Linch/Lynch bunch and the Alexander Linch/Lynch bunch could be of the same > family? I have a definite connection to a Jacob Lynch, his father being > James, but I am looking for possibly/probably a cousin named James (married > Prudence Parker). Either James' father would do nicely as I think they both > lead to the same family core members. > > It seems these two families named their children the same names and it is > logical that they are connected. A bigger mystery is how Wrixom fits in. He > could be my Sasquatch. > > > > thanks for your help, > > Teresa > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Marjorie "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke

Joni, There is a list in the Delaware Genealogical Research Guide pub/available from the Delaware Genealogical Society (www.delgensoc.org). If you want me to give you what I see in my copy contact me off list. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Joni Rabena <joni@mcburney.ca> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm hoping I can find someone who can tell me where to go for a list of > churches that were in Nanticoke Hundred and Dagsboro from about 1850 to > 1860. I need to start looking for a marriage record for a Sarah/Sallie > Smith. She had her first child in 1857 and her second child in 1859. In > 1850 she was living with her parents in Nanticoke. In 1856 they were all > in > Dagsboro; In 1859 they were in Dagsboro; In 1860 she was living with her > parents with the two children in Baltimore Hundred on Fenwick Island. In > 1862 her parents were still in Baltimore Hundred. I haven't been able to > find any marriage record on-line so I'm going to have to go to the church > records. What would be the best way to start this process? > > Thanks, > > > Joni > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Marjorie "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke

In investigating my Lynch clan, I keep running into the place named Indian Town. Was this to the west of Snow Hill at the big gathering area or elsewhere. Is it close enough to St Martin's branch that the Abraham Linch/Lynch bunch and the Alexander Linch/Lynch bunch could be of the same family? I have a definite connection to a Jacob Lynch, his father being James, but I am looking for possibly/probably a cousin named James (married Prudence Parker). Either James' father would do nicely as I think they both lead to the same family core members. It seems these two families named their children the same names and it is logical that they are connected. A bigger mystery is how Wrixom fits in. He could be my Sasquatch. thanks for your help, Teresa

My understanding is that Indian Town was across the Pocomoke at Snow Hill. If by St. Martin's "branch" you mean St. Martin's River, The River is north of Snow Hill just below the present day DE Border between Showel and Bishopville. Not close enough to visit daily but close enough for one family to have moved a bit north to settle. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 4:48 PM, <t.metz@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > In investigating my Lynch clan, I keep running into the place named Indian > Town. Was this to the west of Snow Hill at the big gathering area or > elsewhere. Is it close enough to St Martin's branch that the Abraham > Linch/Lynch bunch and the Alexander Linch/Lynch bunch could be of the same > family? I have a definite connection to a Jacob Lynch, his father being > James, but I am looking for possibly/probably a cousin named James (married > Prudence Parker). Either James' father would do nicely as I think they both > lead to the same family core members. > > It seems these two families named their children the same names and it is > logical that they are connected. A bigger mystery is how Wrixom fits in. He > could be my Sasquatch. > > > > thanks for your help, > > Teresa > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Marjorie "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke

Grampy wrote: > The timing is off, but there is a listing of a marriage between Mathias > Johnston and Magdalene Poulson on Oct 30, 1716. This record is located in > the parish records of St. Mary Ann's Parish (North Elk) in Cecil County, > MD. It is conceivable that he was in Maryland and went back to England and > was then transported. Stranger things have happened. It's possible. There was a Captain William Johnson who sailed between England and Maryland, died before 1720, and had a son Matthias. I'm pretty sure, though, that Matthias the crook was the son of Matthias J. and Mary Jennings, and was baptized in London in 1714. -- T.M. Sommers -- tmsommers2@gmail.com -- ab2sb

The timing is off, but there is a listing of a marriage between Mathias Johnston and Magdalene Poulson on Oct 30, 1716. This record is located in the parish records of St. Mary Ann's Parish (North Elk) in Cecil County, MD. It is conceivable that he was in Maryland and went back to England and was then transported. Stranger things have happened. Jack W. McNatt 2216 Hickory Ridge Dr. Valrico, FL 33596 (813) 685-285 ----- Original Message ----- From: "T.M. Sommers" <tmsommers2@gmail.com> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 10:46 PM Subject: [LDR] Finding transported felon I am trying to find what happened to a convict who was transported to Maryland in 1736. I have found records of his trial and conviction, and of his sailing from London, but after that I don't know where to look. Does anyone know what records, if any, exist regarding the fates of transported felons? Matthias Johnson was convicted of theft in the Old Bailey on 5 May 1736, and sailed for Maryland on the ship Patapscoe, Capt. Francis Lux, that same month. -- T.M. Sommers -- tmsommers2@gmail.com -- ab2sb *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Re: "Matthias the crook" (see below). No doubt you're already aware of the following, but in those days there were virtually no (repeat NO) human rights laws. A "peasant" class individual (& others) could be arrested and thrown in prison for things now considered ridiculous. "Matthias the crook" may have been transported (as a felon) but more info is needed to determine whether or not he was a "bad" character. :-) Joe Lake > Grampy wrote: >> The timing is off, but there is a listing of a marriage between Mathias >> Johnston and Magdalene Poulson on Oct 30, 1716. This record is located in >> the parish records of St. Mary Ann's Parish (North Elk) in Cecil County, >> MD. It is conceivable that he was in Maryland and went back to England and >> was then transported. Stranger things have happened. > > It's possible. There was a Captain William Johnson who sailed > between England and Maryland, died before 1720, and had a son > Matthias. I'm pretty sure, though, that Matthias the crook was > the son of Matthias J. and Mary Jennings, and was baptized in > London in 1714. > > -- > T.M. Sommers -- tmsommers2@gmail.com -- ab2sb > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My experience in regard to locating property in and near Indian River, DE, some of the "original" records are found in Harrisburg, PA: ".The process for obtaining land in Pennsylvania involved a 3-part process: (1) the prospective landowner had to file an application for land in fairly specific terms. When the Land Office received the application, they issued a warrant, or an order to have the desired tract surveyed. The applicant had to pay a fee for this warrant and became known as the warrantee. The loose warrant was copied into a ledger called a Warrant Register. (2) The next step was to pay a fee for the survey and wait until a deputy surveyor could be assigned to do the work. The results of the survey were returned to the Land Office with a precise description and map of the tract, nearly always including the names of the neighbors who owned the adjacent tracts. These loose surveys are on file at the Pennsylvania Archives in Harrisburg and have been copied into Survey Books. (3) The last step was to pay yet another fee to the colony or state and receive the final title which was called a patent. This is the official deed transferring ownership from the colony or state to the individual. He or she now became the patentee. Again, the patents were copied into ledgers called Patent Registers. Sometimes, many years passed between the 3 steps. In our experience, perhaps 60-70% of the warrantees of a county were also the patentees. Often, however, the original warrantee died and the land passed to a relative or was bartered (sometimes for a gun or a coat) or sold to someone else; or he stayed on the land for a short while before moving on (usually west) and transferred the land to someone else who then patented it and became the patentee; or he was a speculator who never intended to settle on it and transferred ownership to someone else to then patented it.."

Hi, I'm hoping I can find someone who can tell me where to go for a list of churches that were in Nanticoke Hundred and Dagsboro from about 1850 to 1860. I need to start looking for a marriage record for a Sarah/Sallie Smith. She had her first child in 1857 and her second child in 1859. In 1850 she was living with her parents in Nanticoke. In 1856 they were all in Dagsboro; In 1859 they were in Dagsboro; In 1860 she was living with her parents with the two children in Baltimore Hundred on Fenwick Island. In 1862 her parents were still in Baltimore Hundred. I haven't been able to find any marriage record on-line so I'm going to have to go to the church records. What would be the best way to start this process? Thanks, Joni

Please change my address from- ruark@sprintmail.com to sruark@tampabay.rr.com thanks S.Ruark -----Original Message----- >From: lower-delmarva-roots-request@rootsweb.com >Sent: Jan 26, 2009 3:00 AM >To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com >Subject: LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Digest, Vol 4, Issue 29 > > > >LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Administrivia > >For information about the Lower Delmarva Roots Mailing List, including list guidelines and instructions for unsubscribing and subscribing, see the LDRoots FAQ: > >http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: help deciphering will language (W.F. Stephens) > 2. Re: mystery property (Johnlyon0@cs.com) > 3. Re: mystery property (marjorie adams) > 4. Re: mystery property (Johnlyon0@cs.com) > 5. Re: help deciphering will language (Johnlyon0@cs.com) > 6. Re: Thanks for the help deciphering will (Heather Binder) > 7. FOWLER of northern Sussex (Jim Moore) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:55:23 -0500 >From: "W.F. Stephens" <wfstephens@verizon.net> >Subject: Re: [LDR] help deciphering will language >To: <heathertimmonsbinder@yahoo.com>, > <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <78751579D7B046818BD2D6E16D380CF0@WoodyPC> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; > reply-type=original > >As I read this it means that John Timmons bequeathed the slave woman, >Easther to his wife, but not any children Easther may bear after her >ownership transfers to the wife. > >Woody Stephens >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Heather Binder" <heathertimmonsbinder@yahoo.com> >To: <lower-delmarva-roots-l@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 11:09 PM >Subject: [LDR] help deciphering will language > > >This may be obvious to many of you, but I want to make sure I clearly >understand the phrase/excerpt below, from the 1792 will of John Timmons of >Sussex County: > >"...for my wife. Also a Negro woman named Easther, the increase of Easther >excepted..." > >Thanks in advance for your help! > >Heather Timmons Binder >Illinois > > > > >*************************************** >QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 07:44:29 -0500 >From: Johnlyon0@cs.com >Subject: Re: [LDR] mystery property >To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <401D9042.7247953B.025CBFE9@cs.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > >marjorie adams <marjea@wildblue.net> wrote: > >>John Lyon, >>Do these 2 properties have any relavance to the mystery of the "150A >>dwelling plantation" of Richard Lockwood d1737? ?<snip> > >________________ > >Your DOUBLE PURCHASE was a 1744 resurvey of POWELLS INCLUSION, which adjoined HILLIARDS DISCOVERY. These were about 2 miles northwest of Berlin. > >Referring to the 1734 Debt Book, the 256 ac POWELLS INCLUSION and 150 ac HILLIARDS DISCOVERY were assessed in their entirety, half of each to Daniel Tingle and Gammage Evans. > >This would therefore exclude either as a candidate to include the mysterious PATRICKS DISCOVERY. All acreage was accounted for. >The ?adjoining? Daniel Tingle land mentioned in the deeds was part of both involved tracts. > >The resurvey DOUBLE PURCHASE does cite its own rectification of substantial overlap of POWELLS INCLUSION with elder surveys in the vicinity. But I don?t see room in all this for PATRICKS DISCOVERY to have been any sort of element. > >A statistic: the 1734 Debt Book specifies 2152 patents and partitions as main entries. Some small fraction of these are entered under their aliases, not their patent name. After all this is sorted out, and the alias linked (via deeds and other sources) to the original patents, my database still holds 32 entries (including PATRICKS DISCOVERY) which are unidentified, even with substantial effort. I just undertook an expanded re-look for any other unaccounted 150 acre pieces in the general area, and came up dry. So this question seems to be beyond my capacity... > >Insufficient data. But on 2120 of the 2152 properties, there's enough. > >John > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 3 >Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:33:00 -0500 >From: marjorie adams <marjea@wildblue.net> >Subject: Re: [LDR] mystery property >To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: > <89f244ab0901250633y5bfdf56fmd3d6a705eb4da036@mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > >John Lyon wrote: ><After all this is sorted out, and the alias linked (via deeds and other >sources) to the original patents, my database still holds 32 entries >(including PATRICKS DISCOVERY) which are unidentified, even with substantial >effort. > >John, > I am very grateful for your continued responses to help me with the morass >of property data which you have miraculously (to me/tremendous effort on >your part) sorted out. > >The reason I continue to persist in this is my attempt to prove/disprove the >wife/wives of Richard Lockwood and thus his children and their parents. His >son Benjamin reported that he was raised at Trappe, the one near present day >Berlin. > >I have been looking at the men (and their families) mentioned in the >documents about Richard Lockwood: >Hugh Tingle, Walter Evans, Walter Powell, Wm Walton, Charles Showell ><Samuel, Richard Hudson, Job Truitt<George, Richard Holland, Wm Kennett, >Williams Records/Rickards, Benjamin Burton, James Round, and Wm Turvill. > >All of these men held an abundance of acreage south of St. Martin's River >and north of Snow Hill; many were Quakers and many appear repeatedly on the >Somerset Baltimore Hd. Tax Lists next to or close to Richard Lockwood >(various spellings) in addition to Walter Taylor. > >Men whom appear near him, or his widow Mary, at least once: John Pattey, >Henry Alexander, RIchard Murray, Thomas Collins, Edmund Crapper/Cropper, >Robert Hill, John Newbold, Absolom Bessix, David Johnson, Samuel Hopkins, Wm >Hook (lived on *"Smith's 1st Choice"*), Abraham Smith, John Holloway, >Richard Waters and Thomas Farewell. > >I particularly wonder about: >William Walton * "Neighbourhood" *1400A >Seaboard side in a neck of land called Sinepuxent. . .formerly surveyed for >William Tomkins?near a bay or sound called Newhaven. . .to a Sandy Landing. >. .to mouth of a small creeke called Carmell Creeke ?.. Easternmost side of >Herring Creek March 22, 1678 >+ Transylvania, 800; Exon, 250 > >Walter Powell: Greenfield 300A; Olivers Portion150A. Winter Quarter 200A; >Friends Guift 250A; Powells Adicon 50A (We already know about Powell's >Inclusion and Hillard's Discovery.) > >Sameul Showell: *"Cropton"* 800A [Ruth Dryden: Cropton pat 18 June 1679 by >Wm Stevens. Coldham says 25 Nov 1679 by Thomas Shewell], assigned to Samuel >Showell who willed to sons Jonathan and Armwell [and, I add, Charles]. >Armwell willed to his son Samuel who sold in bits & pieces from 1725 on. >Charles Showell: Showell's Addition 166/76A and pt of Cropton. > >John Evans *"Patrick's Lott" 100A 1747 transferred *(1744 warrant in name >of Paul Alexander) [if John<John<Walter would be nephew of Gammage, spouse >of Rachel of Richard Lockwood)] >John Patrick* "Patrick's Lott" 100A 1751 *son of Rory Patrick [west of >Assateague Bay, back in the wood on the w side of a swamp next to >Pinder's/Pendal's Neglect 100A 1680 just n or s of St. Martin's River] > >Roger/Rory? Patrick "Patrick's Hill" 700A 1673 > >Powell Pattey/Potey *"Pattey's Discovery" 318A 1752* patent (resurvey of >"Murrays Discovery" 132A 1747 James Murray, w of rd along Chapel Branch, St; >Martin's) >+ "Potey's/Patey's Invention" 1757 Chapel branch next to James Hogg > >Some of the above are probably too far north. I do not expect details on all >of the above but I would be very appreciative if you would give it your once >over and pass on anything you consider worth pursuing. > >Thanks for your generous and repeated help. > >On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 7:44 AM, <Johnlyon0@cs.com> wrote: > >> marjorie adams <marjea@wildblue.net> wrote: >> >> >John Lyon, >> >Do these 2 properties have any relavance to the mystery of the "150A >> >dwelling plantation" of Richard Lockwood d1737? <snip> >> >> ________________ >> >> Your DOUBLE PURCHASE was a 1744 resurvey of POWELLS INCLUSION, which >> adjoined HILLIARDS DISCOVERY. These were about 2 miles northwest of Berlin. >> >> Referring to the 1734 Debt Book, the 256 ac POWELLS INCLUSION and 150 ac >> HILLIARDS DISCOVERY were assessed in their entirety, half of each to Daniel >> Tingle and Gammage Evans. >> >> This would therefore exclude either as a candidate to include the >> mysterious PATRICKS DISCOVERY. All acreage was accounted for. >> The "adjoining" Daniel Tingle land mentioned in the deeds was part of both >> involved tracts. >> >> The resurvey DOUBLE PURCHASE does cite its own rectification of substantial >> overlap of POWELLS INCLUSION with elder surveys in the vicinity. But I >> don't see room in all this for PATRICKS DISCOVERY to have been any sort of >> element. >> >> A statistic: the 1734 Debt Book specifies 2152 patents and partitions as >> main entries. Some small fraction of these are entered under their aliases, >> not their patent name. After all this is sorted out, and the alias linked >> (via deeds and other sources) to the original patents, my database still >> holds 32 entries (including PATRICKS DISCOVERY) which are unidentified, even >> with substantial effort. I just undertook an expanded re-look for any other >> unaccounted 150 acre pieces in the general area, and came up dry. So this >> question seems to be beyond my capacity... >> >> Insufficient data. But on 2120 of the 2152 properties, there's enough. >> >> John >> *************************************** >> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >-- >Marjorie >"Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to >play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:51:21 -0500 >From: Johnlyon0@cs.com >Subject: Re: [LDR] mystery property >To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <77DB8730.616B8C91.025CBFE9@cs.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > >marjorie adams <marjea@wildblue.net> wrote: > >>The reason I continue to persist in this is my attempt to prove/disprove the >>wife/wives of Richard Lockwood and thus his children and their parents. His >>son Benjamin reported that he was raised at Trappe, the one near present day >>Berlin. <snip> > >I applaud your enthusiasm, but at this point, I can only say that some questions don?t have answers within my data. The surviving records, while extraordinary in their completeness, also have limits; various odds and ends are missing, and clerical errors of one kind or another have misplaced or mis-described things (some of which I can overcome with a global perspective which allows correction of some single-point source mistake or omission). If I?ve overlooked something, to field your question about the many properties you list would basically require re-examining all of them - or Baltimore Hundred in toto - to look for a clue, which may not be there, anyway. Weeks or more of work, and prospective return on investment is very, very small. > >As a pragmatist who has also run into the end of the line in similar cases, I just don?t have any further suggestions. My bag of tricks is exhausted. All barrels have a bottom, and this one has been scraped. > >John > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 5 >Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:02:52 -0500 >From: Johnlyon0@cs.com >Subject: Re: [LDR] help deciphering will language >To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <5494834C.51099946.025CBFE9@cs.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > >Yes, and the will further specifies: > >To granddaughter Tabitha Morgan - the first child that my Negro woman Esther shall have after this date > >To granddaughter Peggy Morgan - the second child that my Negro woman Esther shall have after this date > >To daughter Betty - Negro Esther after my wife's death > >* > >This sort of construction is common in the wills. Female slaves were the gift that kept on giving, as it were. > >John > > >"W.F. Stephens" <wfstephens@verizon.net> wrote: > >>As I read this it means that John Timmons bequeathed the slave woman, >>Easther to his wife, but not any children Easther may bear after her >>ownership transfers to the wife. >> >>Woody Stephens >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Heather Binder" <heathertimmonsbinder@yahoo.com> >>To: <lower-delmarva-roots-l@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 11:09 PM >>Subject: [LDR] help deciphering will language >> >> >>This may be obvious to many of you, but I want to make sure I clearly >>understand the phrase/excerpt below, from the 1792 will of John Timmons of >>Sussex County: >> >>"...for my wife. Also a Negro woman named Easther, the increase of Easther >>excepted..." >> >>Thanks in advance for your help! >> >>Heather Timmons Binder >>Illinois >> >> >> >> >>*************************************** >>QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >>*************************************** >>QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 6 >Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:35:41 -0800 (PST) >From: Heather Binder <heathertimmonsbinder@yahoo.com> >Subject: Re: [LDR] Thanks for the help deciphering will >To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <390535.90105.qm@web30003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > >Thank you to those of you who replied to my post - and especially to John for going above and beyond to read the full text.? >This list is and its members are THE BEST! >? >Heather > >--- On Sun, 1/25/09, Johnlyon0@cs.com <Johnlyon0@cs.com> wrote: > >From: Johnlyon0@cs.com <Johnlyon0@cs.com> >Subject: Re: [LDR] help deciphering will language >To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com >Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 10:02 AM > >Yes, and the will further specifies: > >To granddaughter Tabitha Morgan - the first child that my Negro woman Esther >shall have after this date > >To granddaughter Peggy Morgan - the second child that my Negro woman Esther >shall have after this date > >To daughter Betty - Negro Esther after my wife's death > >* > >This sort of construction is common in the wills. Female slaves were the gift >that kept on giving, as it were. > >John > > >"W.F. Stephens" <wfstephens@verizon.net> wrote: > >>As I read this it means that John Timmons bequeathed the slave woman, >>Easther to his wife, but not any children Easther may bear after her >>ownership transfers to the wife. >> >>Woody Stephens >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Heather Binder" <heathertimmonsbinder@yahoo.com> >>To: <lower-delmarva-roots-l@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 11:09 PM >>Subject: [LDR] help deciphering will language >> >> >>This may be obvious to many of you, but I want to make sure I clearly >>understand the phrase/excerpt below, from the 1792 will of John Timmons of >>Sussex County: >> >>"...for my wife. Also a Negro woman named Easther, the increase of >Easther >>excepted..." >> >>Thanks in advance for your help! >> >>Heather Timmons Binder >>Illinois >> >> >> >> >>*************************************** >>QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word >'unsubscribe' >>without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >>*************************************** >>QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >*************************************** >QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 7 >Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:27:11 -0500 >From: Jim Moore <moorejl@gmail.com> >Subject: [LDR] FOWLER of northern Sussex >To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: > <846bb6b30901252027p28be7835ndcf88e3e9cded2fc@mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >Folks: Tabitha Layton, daughter of Louder Layton and Tabitha Laws of >Milford, married a FOWLER about 1785. Seeking name of this Fowler. >This marriage started interactions between Laytons and Fowlers that >continued well into the 1800s. Recently found some Delaware Fowlers in >Ohio, so I'm wondering if my inability to find this couple in DE might be >because they immigrated westward ... along with about half of Delmarva! >Jim Moore >Wilmington > > >------------------------------ > >To contact the LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS list administrator, send an email to >LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-admin@rootsweb.com. > >To post a message to the LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS mailing list, send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com. > >__________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com >with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >email with no additional text. > > >End of LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Digest, Vol 4, Issue 29 >***************************************************

Folks: Tabitha Layton, daughter of Louder Layton and Tabitha Laws of Milford, married a FOWLER about 1785. Seeking name of this Fowler. This marriage started interactions between Laytons and Fowlers that continued well into the 1800s. Recently found some Delaware Fowlers in Ohio, so I'm wondering if my inability to find this couple in DE might be because they immigrated westward ... along with about half of Delmarva! Jim Moore Wilmington