Thank you Dave, I will check it out. Good to hear from you again! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave & Jane Kearney" <kearneyd@erols.com> To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2009 12:44:42 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [LDR] Caleb Rodney and Elizabeth West Gwen wrote: >>> Also curious to know if Caleb Rodney was part of the William Rodney, Caesar Rodney family? <<< __________________ Gwen ~ According to the Delaware Governors website, Governor Caleb Rodney and Governor Caesar Rodeny were related, but I don't know that the site states the actual relationship, or provides any sources. See www.russpickett.com/history/delgov2.htm#crod2. Dave K *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Michelle and Gwen, Glad I can help once in awhile. Walt West

I have a Elizabeth West b. abt. 1824 married to a Benjamin Riggin. Elizabeth's parents were William 1795/abt. 1863 and Mary Gordy West 1798/1871. (Mary's great grandson Charles Parker married another Gordy; Annie Gordy Parker). Does anyone have anything further on William West's ancestors or Benjamin Riggin's??? I do not have anything more on either of these two families... except they were both in Worchester County, Maryland during this time period.... Also curious to know if Caleb Rodney was part of the William Rodney, Caesar Rodney family? Gwen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walt and Rene" <westresort@roadrunner.com> To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 5:18:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [LDR] Caleb Rodney and Elizabeth West Hi Dave, Caleb  Rodney was indeed married to Elizabeth West and was Episcopalian. They are buried in the graveyard of St. Peters Episcopal Church in Lewes. I have headstone photos of the site if you are interested. I have no idea as yet of how Elizabeth fits into my West line but I am traveling to Dover on February 8 to search archives for the next few days and then spend some time in Sussex County photographing more   headstones. While I'm sure I'll have my hands full, if anyone knows of a specific person  and cemetery location which they would like   photographed, let me know. Walt WEst *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Great stuff Walt, thank you so muh for sharing it with us!!! Gwen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walt and Rene" <westresort@roadrunner.com> To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 5:44:49 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [LDR] 1913 farm journal for Sussex County Hi, While stumbling around on the internet looking for Sussex County Delaware history I came across this site which is an intriguing insite into who was who and where in 1913: http://sussexcounty.net/docs/about/history/1913farm.pdf Walt West *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>>>Thank you Dave, I will check it out. Good to hear from you again! <<< ____________ Thanks, Gwen. And let me take this opportunity to correct my spelling of "Governor Caesar RODNEY." :-) Dave K

Gwen wrote: >>> Also curious to know if Caleb Rodney was part of the William Rodney, Caesar Rodney family? <<< __________________ Gwen ~ According to the Delaware Governors website, Governor Caleb Rodney and Governor Caesar Rodeny were related, but I don't know that the site states the actual relationship, or provides any sources. See www.russpickett.com/history/delgov2.htm#crod2. Dave K

Hello Walt, I have this book also and it is very informative. I purchased it several years ago from the Sussex Printing Co., in Georgetown, DE.(I believe). It is very good and shows the different hundreds listed in Sussex Co and information on residents and their families. Thanks for letting everyone know about this book Regards, Michelle (originally from Bridgeville, DE). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walt and Rene" <westresort@roadrunner.com> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 5:44 PM Subject: [LDR] 1913 farm journal for Sussex County > Hi, > > While stumbling around on the internet looking for Sussex County > Delaware history I came across this site which is an intriguing insite > into who was who and where in 1913: > http://sussexcounty.net/docs/about/history/1913farm.pdf > > Walt West > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1926 - Release Date: 01/30/09 17:31:00

Hi, While stumbling around on the internet looking for Sussex County Delaware history I came across this site which is an intriguing insite into who was who and where in 1913: http://sussexcounty.net/docs/about/history/1913farm.pdf Walt West

Hi Dave, Caleb Rodney was indeed married to Elizabeth West and was Episcopalian. They are buried in the graveyard of St. Peters Episcopal Church in Lewes. I have headstone photos of the site if you are interested. I have no idea as yet of how Elizabeth fits into my West line but I am traveling to Dover on February 8 to search archives for the next few days and then spend some time in Sussex County photographing more headstones. While I'm sure I'll have my hands full, if anyone knows of a specific person and cemetery location which they would like photographed, let me know. Walt WEst

Pat: If you're out there, I'd appreciate your new email address. The one I have appears obsolete. Thanks. Rich Donoho

All, With your indulgence, this is a re-post of an 1822 Delaware marriage bond transcription I posted first about two weeks ago. I wasn't happy with the formatting and readability of the first effort ... I haven't figured out yet how to dovetail my fairly recent Word 2007 set-up with my Outlook Express set-up and the list's formatting. I hope this attempt comes out looking better on the list. Dave K ________________ I've pasted below my transcription of the marriage bond between Googe [George] BENSTON [BENSON?] and Elisabeth [Elizabeth] FREEMAN, dated January 16, 1822. I transcribed the record from a collection entitled "Delaware Marriage Records, 1744-1912" provided by Ancestry.com. The underlying record is marked as Marriage Records, Vol. 41, p. 221. The Genealogy Trails website, genealogytrails.com/del/sussex/sussexmarriages-B.html, carries an index listing for what seems to be the same bond under the heading, "Sussex County, Delaware Marriages 1645-1899, FHL Film Number 0006416-0006422" (submitted by Barb Ziegenmeyer). In the transcription, I've designated the handwritten entries on the bond form as **XX** (with XX as the handwritten entry). Bear in mind that what one sees in handwriting is in the eye of the beholder. Another reviewer might read the entries differently. I've marked one word that I think might be "and" in brackets, with a question mark, because I am less certain of my interpretation. The form includes a couple of "ink blots" - I've shown what I think I see underneath the blots as ^^XX^^ (with XX as what I think I see underneath the ink blots). At least one of the two ink blots appears to be intentional, blotting out "three" in the year 1823, with "two" written immediately afterwards. I'm not sure if the other blot is intentional, or simply a blot. The apparent change of the bond's date from January 16, 1823 to January 16, 1822 raises some questions. The bond was made out to "Calob Radney," as "Governor and Commander in chief of the State of Delaware." This would be Governor Caleb RODNEY. According to Russell Pickett's "Delaware Governors" website, Caleb Rodney assumed the governor's office on April 23, 1822 upon the death of Governor John COLLINS, and served until January 21, 1823. www.russpickett.com/history/delgov2.htm#crod2. Thus, Caleb Rodney was not yet governor on the "corrected date" of January 16, 1822 shown on the bond, but was (barely still so) governor on January 16, 1823 - the bond's "original date." I imagine various ideas could be considered to explain the two dates, and various methods explored to determine which date, if either, might be the bond's "correct" date. Caleb Rodney was Delaware's 24th governor. He was born in Lewes and was a merchant in private life. The Delaware Governors website indicates that Governor Rodney was a Federalist and an Episcopalian. He was the brother of Daniel Rodney who was Delaware's 20th governor, a relative of Caesar Rodney who was Delaware's 4th governor, and an uncle to Congressman George Brydges Rodney. Caleb Rodney married Elizabeth WEST. According to Pickett, the family names of Caleb and Elizabeth's sons-in-law include LYONS, HALL, LAYTON, and LANDRETH. The transcription follows. I would love feedback from anyone tracking any of the possible lines here. [I have Delaware Benson and Freeman ancestors.] Dave Kearney _______________ Know all Men by these Presents, That we, **Googe Benston and William Benston of Sussex county and state of Delaware** are firmly held and bound unto **Calob Radney** Governor and Commander in chief of the State of Delaware, in the sum of **five** hundred pounds, good and lawful money of America, to be paid to the said **Calob Radney** Esq. or his successors; to the which payment well and truly to be made, we bind ourselves jointly and severally, for and in the whole, our heirs, executors and administrators firmly by these presents. Sealed with our seals. Dated the **sixteenth** day of **January [and?]** in the year of our Lord, one thousand eight hundred and twenty-^^three^^ two The Condition of this Obligation is such, That if there shall not hereafter appear any lawful let or impediment, by reason of any pre-contract, consanguinity, affinity, or any other just cause whatsoever, but that the above mentioned **googe Benston and Elisabeth Freeman of the same place** may lawfully marry; and that there is not any suit depending before any judge, ecclesiastical or civil, for or concerning any such pre-contract; and also if the said parties, and each of them are of the ages following; to wit: female of eighteen, and male of twenty-one years; and are not under the tuition of his or her parents, or have the full consent of his ^^or her^^ parents or guardians respectively, to the said marriage, and if they or either of them are not indented servants; and do and shall save harmless and keep indemnified the above named **Calob Radney** Esq. and his successors, for and concerning the premises; and shall likewise save harmless and keep indemnified the clergyman or minister who shall join the said parties in matrimony, for or by reason of his so doing . then this obligation to be void, or else to stand and remain in full force and virtue. **Googe Benston** [sealed] **William Benston** [sealed] Sealed and delivered In the presence of: **William Freeman** **James Freeman**

Nanette -- Your mention of the David Newbold property in your interesting post below caught my eye. In making an attempt to generally locate the property that David Newbold sold in 1803, I did a little research using Mr. Keddie's abstracts and found that this land was probably part of the following that David Newbold bought with Samuel Tulley in 1801: David Newbold and Samuel Tully were recorded buying land in Broad Creek Hundred in Sussex County from Peter Waples on December 12, 1801. This tract was for 208 acres and it cost them 300 pounds ["Sussex County Delaware Deed Records Volume X22 1800-1802", abstracted by Keddie, 2005, folio 173, p. 40]. The land had originally been owned by Robert Houston. The transaction was witnessed by Joseph Copes and Sarah Stafford -- the latter was David Newbold's mother. The 1803 David Newbold sale was for exactly half of the 1801 208 acre purchase: 104 acres. Samuel Tully and wife Elizabeth sold their 104 acres of land to William Dixeson only 3 months earlier in March of 1803 [Folio 308, Keddie, "Vol Y"]. Using the above information I looked for information on Robert Houston and Peter Waples. I'm pretty sure that this Robert Houston's father was John Houston. If true, then the land David Newbold obtained may have originally been part of a tract of land I found using plats.net in Worcester County: an 860 acre tract of land called "Round Pond Inlarged" patented by Robert's father John Houston in Worcester County Maryland on September 1, 1762. Its location was described as being near ". a county road leading from the head of Wicomico to Gravelly branch thence." This tract of land looked on the patent as being a large and "skinny" tract whose length was mostly north to south. The road itself would have been generally a north south road if coming from the head of the Wicomico up to Gravelly Branch off of the Nanticoke. Don't know if this helps or confuses....but if you ultimately can more precisely locate where this land, "Skinner's farm" was, I would like to know as it would tell me where David Newbold lived before he migrated to Kentucky circa 1806. Cheers, Cree Newbold -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of imnetz Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 12:14 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDR] Laurel-Concord Road Revisited Thank you LT Riggin for your response. I really do appreciate your input and will keep it in mind. Old Rt. 13 is not the answer I was expecting and I want to provide some of the background to my question so you can see why I was surprised. I should have probably added all that follows to the first time I asked the question. The angle of the Laurel-Concord road on the 1823 drawing, which includes meridian line pointing north, is more on the order of a forward slash mark. Like this /. Maybe leaning a little more to the right. Old Rt. 13 would be a more vertical line wouldn't it? These are notes from some of the deeds I've been working on that relate to William Marvel and his father, Thomas of Broad Creek Hundred. William Marvel was involved in many land transactions and left 7 different farms in Broad creek Hundred to relatives in his will. I hope someone may recognize a family name or a tract name and have a different opinion on the location of this road. This is going to be long, but it is important to me to get this one right. I need some more opinions to be sure I am looking at the right area. Sussex Liber AK 33, f193, 30 August 1817, Caleb ROSS sold land to William MARVEL aka Big Billy. It is described as beginning at a post standing by the side of the county road as it formerly ran from Concord to Laurel and near the place where Hugh TAYLOR had his watering well. It included p/o RAMBLE INDEED (aka RAMBLING DEED), p/o WINWRIGHT'S PROMISE, p/o JOHNSON'S DELIGHT. RAMBLE INDEED is described elsewhere as being on the south side of Miry Branch at the south end of old mill dam. The >formerly ran< above makes this question even more complicated. This Miery Branch is located between Laurel and Concord, east of today's Rt. 13. There is another one near Millsboro. In Sussex Deed Liber 62, f76, 26 Sept 1854, William J. MARVEL sells land he inherited to Asbury HASTINGS. Asbury HASTINGS was William J. MARVEL's brother-in-law, married to Julia Ann MARVEL. William J. MARVEL was William MARVEL'S only son. This land is described as all the land on the east side of the county road leading from Concord to CHIPMAN's Mill or to the old church or chapel that is to say all the lands lying on the east side of said road. In Sussex Deed Liber AAN61, f433, 11 Oct 1854, William James MARVEL sells land to David H. BOYCE. William James is the only son of Big Billy. This land is in Broad Creek Hundred, land sold to Big Billy by Chloe BULL in 1832 (250 acres AT42 f255) . Chloe BULL was the mother of Manaen BULL and lived in New Haven, Connecticut and Chloe was sole heir after Manaen BULL's death in 1831. This land is described in 1854 as adjoining Tilghman SPICER until it intersects with land belonging to Thomas BENSON thence to lands belonging to John MOORE thence to the county road leading from Laurel to Concord then with said road to the corner of James WAINWRIGHT with his land to the lands formerly belonging to Tilghman SPICER but now in the possession of Curtis SPICER. All the lands found and lying on the west side of the road leading from Laurel to Concord and he agrees that David H. BOYCE may move or remove all the houses from the east side of the road to the west side of said County Road le! ading from Laurel to Concord. In Sussex Deed Vol. 71, f31, on 22 Aug 1863, William J. SHILES sells the 100 acre so-called SKINNER farm he inherited from his grandfather, William Marvel aka Big Billy. Wm. J. SHILES sells 104 acres in Broad Creek Hundred to David H. BOYCE in 1863. It is described as lying and being on the County Road leading from Laurel to Concord adjoining the lands of Doctor Stephen GREEN, Asbury HASTINGS, Gillis S. HITCHENS, William O'NEAL and Jany (sp?) FOOKS. William Marvel had bought the so-called SKINNER farm in 1824 (Sussex Deed AN36 f352) from the heirs of Thomas SKINNER. It was land that Thomas SKINNER bought from (1) David NEWBOLD and the (2) from William B. COOPER, Sheriff. The Newbold land was sold to Thomas SKINNER by David NEWBOLD on 11 June 1803. Thomas SKINNER bought the land from the Sheriff on 3 May 1809 and it was the 130 acres owned by Thomas MARVEL who lost his farm due to debt. Thomas MARVEL was the father of Big Billy so Big Billy got his family land back. In 1847, Big Billy describes this land in his will as adjoining Peggy ELLIGOOD and Josiah O'NEAL. In Sussex Deed Liber 93, f205, 9 March 1878, Smith BAKER et al sells to Gillis S. HITCHENS. The et al are the heirs of William MARVEL. Smith BAKER was married to Mary Ann KNOWLES, grand daughter of Big Billy and daughter of Eliza MARVEL and John KNOWLES. This deed concerns the former BOOTH tract. Big Billy bought this farm in 1817 from Caleb ROSS. It was willed by Big Billy to William T. KNOWLES and John KNOWLES, his grandsons by Eliza. They died before the will was probated. The land sold by Caleb ROSS to Big Billy included parts of the tracts RAMBLE INDEED (aka RAMBLING DEED), p/o WINWRIGHT's PROMISE, p/o JOHNSON's DELIGHT. William MARVEL added to these 124 acres with other smaller parcels and the farm sold in 1878 to Gillis S. HITCHENS contained 143 acres. In 1878, this land is described as being in Broad Creek Hundred on the east side of the public road leading from Concord to Laurel on the north side of and other public road leading from O'NEAL'S School House to the Bap! tist Church. O'NEAL'S School is marked on the 1915 topo map found on the Maptech website and would seem to have been located on what is today Firetower Road.The Baptist Church must be Broad Creek Baptist Church that was located on what is now Sycamore Road. The church no longer stands but the cemetery is still there. So I thought that today's Firetower Road must be at least part of the old Laurel-Concord Road. But near Laurel, is it Sycamore Road or Discount Land Road? The formerly ran comment made me think maybe earlier it was what is now called Sycamore Road and then later Discount Land Road was the preferred route. Both those roads existed in 1868 and are shown in the Beers atlas. Or should I be looking at other roads? Thanks for any and all help with this one! Nanette In a message dated 01/29/09 18:57:00 Eastern Standard Time, lower-delmarva-roots-request@rootsweb.com writes: Message: 8 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:22:49 -0500 From: lt riggin <ltriggin@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [LDR] Laurel-Concord Road To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> old rt. 13 laurel to blades Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:15:15 -0500> From: imnetz@aol.com> To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Subject: [LDR] Laurel-Concord Road> > > Hi List,> > You might have read in my post about Manaen B. Marvel that I saw a drawing from 1823 with James Marvel's house on the Laurel-Concord Road. What roads do you think that would be today? The tract Snow Hill is described as about 2 miles from the Broad Creek wading place. James Marvel is living directly on the road and on the edge of the tract called Snow Hill. So at first I thought it is probably today's Sycamore Road and then Firetower Road. But the drawing has the road at more of an upright angle which fits better with Discount Land Road leading to Firetower Road. The oldest road map with any detail I have is the Beers Atlas and I've been comparing that to the 1915 topo maps on Maptech and modern maps. William Marvel, brother of James, owned several farms and most of them have the Laurel-Concord Road in their description. > > ! Where is the old Laurel-Concord Road?> > Thanks for any and all help,> > Nanette> *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? 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Can anyone access the 1796 will of William Fleming wherein he wills Harpers Increase and heavens know what else to sons William and Joshua Fleming and who know who all else. My records from Neil stop in 1795.sigh Pat

Hi, The tax lists I was referring to were of Dagsboro and Broad Creek Hundred in Sussex County, DE, where younger men were taxed at $200 and older men were taxed at $134. Thanks, Walt West Frostfreedet@aol.com wrote: > Walt wondered >>Tax lists for years between 1801 and 1803 show a tax > distinction between old and young men. Does anyone know at what age that distinction > is made?<< > > Walt, you did not say what County or State lists you are looking at. In > general each State had its own legislation as to what was taxable and what > information was to be gathered, and usually also legislated what was to be > collectible by Counties. And in some places two or more different sets of tax > assessments were made by Counties - in VA, typically one for specified personal > property and the head tax, and one for real estate assessments. > > You put me in mind of the PA Septennial taxes, which listed men of Militia > age. This could well be the distinction indicated in the lists of your query. > But you would have to try to research the specific legislation. > > Good hunting, > Judy</HTML> > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1926 - Release Date: 1/30/2009 5:31 PM > >

Thank you for your prompt reply. To the community there it is referred to as "Owens Station". I am quite familiar with that area as my maternal grandparents lived there for many years. Regards, Michelle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Wiggins" <milheritage@aol.com> To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [LDR] LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Digest, Vol 4, Issue 37 > > > Ken, > Is the "OWENS" listed below the same as Owens Station, a small > ommunity between Greenwood & Milford? Also, is the Queen Anne Railroad one > hat originated in Queen Anne Co., MD? > egards, > ichelle > > > > > > > > Looking at a highway map, Owens is about halfway on a direct line from > Greenwood to Ellendale. Logically, > one would have to assume the railroad paralleled this route. This is from > the Delaware Archives website: > > > QUEEN ANNE’S RAILROAD > > > > In February 1895, the Delaware legislature authorized the Queen Anne’s > Railroad, a Maryland corporation > formed the previous year, to extend its lines across the state to Lewes. > Their goal was to establish a > direct link between Baltimore and the coast. The western terminus was at > Queenstown, Maryland, with > connections from there to Baltimore via steamship. The eastern terminus > provided travelers with access > to the Rehoboth resort via rail, and steamship connection with Cape May, > New Jersey. This was the last > major railroad built on the Delmarva peninsula. > > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1926 - Release Date: 01/30/09 17:31:00

Walt wondered >>Tax lists for years between 1801 and 1803 show a tax distinction between old and young men. Does anyone know at what age that distinction is made?<< Walt, you did not say what County or State lists you are looking at. In general each State had its own legislation as to what was taxable and what information was to be gathered, and usually also legislated what was to be collectible by Counties. And in some places two or more different sets of tax assessments were made by Counties - in VA, typically one for specified personal property and the head tax, and one for real estate assessments. You put me in mind of the PA Septennial taxes, which listed men of Militia age. This could well be the distinction indicated in the lists of your query. But you would have to try to research the specific legislation. Good hunting, Judy</HTML>

Thank you LT Riggin for your response. I really do appreciate your input and will keep it in mind. Old Rt. 13 is not the answer I was expecting and I want to provide some of the background to my question so you can see why I was surprised. I should have probably added all that follows to the first time I asked the question. The angle of the Laurel-Concord road on the 1823 drawing, which includes meridian line pointing north, is more on the order of a forward slash mark. Like this /. Maybe leaning a little more to the right. Old Rt. 13 would be a more vertical line wouldn't it? These are notes from some of the deeds I've been working on that relate to William Marvel and his father, Thomas of Broad Creek Hundred. William Marvel was involved in many land transactions and left 7 different farms in Broad creek Hundred to relatives in his will. I hope someone may recognize a family name or a tract name and have a different opinion on the location of this road. This is going to be long, but it is important to me to get this one right. I need some more opinions to be sure I am looking at the right area. Sussex Liber AK 33, f193, 30 August 1817, Caleb ROSS sold land to William MARVEL aka Big Billy. It is described as beginning at a post standing by the side of the county road as it formerly ran from Concord to Laurel and near the place where Hugh TAYLOR had his watering well. It included p/o RAMBLE INDEED (aka RAMBLING DEED), p/o WINWRIGHT'S PROMISE, p/o JOHNSON'S DELIGHT. RAMBLE INDEED is described elsewhere as being on the south side of Miry Branch at the south end of old mill dam. The >formerly ran< above makes this question even more complicated. This Miery Branch is located between Laurel and Concord, east of today's Rt. 13. There is another one near Millsboro. In Sussex Deed Liber 62, f76, 26 Sept 1854, William J. MARVEL sells land he inherited to Asbury HASTINGS. Asbury HASTINGS was William J. MARVEL's brother-in-law, married to Julia Ann MARVEL. William J. MARVEL was William MARVEL'S only son. This land is described as all the land on the east side of the county road leading from Concord to CHIPMAN's Mill or to the old church or chapel that is to say all the lands lying on the east side of said road. In Sussex Deed Liber AAN61, f433, 11 Oct 1854, William James MARVEL sells land to David H. BOYCE. William James is the only son of Big Billy. This land is in Broad Creek Hundred, land sold to Big Billy by Chloe BULL in 1832 (250 acres AT42 f255) . Chloe BULL was the mother of Manaen BULL and lived in New Haven, Connecticut and Chloe was sole heir after Manaen BULL's death in 1831. This land is described in 1854 as adjoining Tilghman SPICER until it intersects with land belonging to Thomas BENSON thence to lands belonging to John MOORE thence to the county road leading from Laurel to Concord then with said road to the corner of James WAINWRIGHT with his land to the lands formerly belonging to Tilghman SPICER but now in the possession of Curtis SPICER. All the lands found and lying on the west side of the road leading from Laurel to Concord and he agrees that David H. BOYCE may move or remove all the houses from the east side of the road to the west side of said County Road le! ading from Laurel to Concord. In Sussex Deed Vol. 71, f31, on 22 Aug 1863, William J. SHILES sells the 100 acre so-called SKINNER farm he inherited from his grandfather, William Marvel aka Big Billy. Wm. J. SHILES sells 104 acres in Broad Creek Hundred to David H. BOYCE in 1863. It is described as lying and being on the County Road leading from Laurel to Concord adjoining the lands of Doctor Stephen GREEN, Asbury HASTINGS, Gillis S. HITCHENS, William O'NEAL and Jany (sp?) FOOKS. William Marvel had bought the so-called SKINNER farm in 1824 (Sussex Deed AN36 f352) from the heirs of Thomas SKINNER. It was land that Thomas SKINNER bought from (1) David NEWBOLD and the (2) from William B. COOPER, Sheriff. The Newbold land was sold to Thomas SKINNER by David NEWBOLD on 11 June 1803. Thomas SKINNER bought the land from the Sheriff on 3 May 1809 and it was the 130 acres owned by Thomas MARVEL who lost his farm due to debt. Thomas MARVEL was the father of Big Billy so Big Billy got his family land back. In 1847, Big Billy describes this land in his will as adjoining Peggy ELLIGOOD and Josiah O'NEAL. In Sussex Deed Liber 93, f205, 9 March 1878, Smith BAKER et al sells to Gillis S. HITCHENS. The et al are the heirs of William MARVEL. Smith BAKER was married to Mary Ann KNOWLES, grand daughter of Big Billy and daughter of Eliza MARVEL and John KNOWLES. This deed concerns the former BOOTH tract. Big Billy bought this farm in 1817 from Caleb ROSS. It was willed by Big Billy to William T. KNOWLES and John KNOWLES, his grandsons by Eliza. They died before the will was probated. The land sold by Caleb ROSS to Big Billy included parts of the tracts RAMBLE INDEED (aka RAMBLING DEED), p/o WINWRIGHT's PROMISE, p/o JOHNSON's DELIGHT. William MARVEL added to these 124 acres with other smaller parcels and the farm sold in 1878 to Gillis S. HITCHENS contained 143 acres. In 1878, this land is described as being in Broad Creek Hundred on the east side of the public road leading from Concord to Laurel on the north side of and other public road leading from O'NEAL'S School House to the Bap! tist Church. O'NEAL'S School is marked on the 1915 topo map found on the Maptech website and would seem to have been located on what is today Firetower Road.The Baptist Church must be Broad Creek Baptist Church that was located on what is now Sycamore Road. The church no longer stands but the cemetery is still there. So I thought that today's Firetower Road must be at least part of the old Laurel-Concord Road. But near Laurel, is it Sycamore Road or Discount Land Road? The formerly ran comment made me think maybe earlier it was what is now called Sycamore Road and then later Discount Land Road was the preferred route. Both those roads existed in 1868 and are shown in the Beers atlas. Or should I be looking at other roads? Thanks for any and all help with this one! Nanette In a message dated 01/29/09 18:57:00 Eastern Standard Time, lower-delmarva-roots-request@rootsweb.com writes: Message: 8 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:22:49 -0500 From: lt riggin <ltriggin@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [LDR] Laurel-Concord Road To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> old rt. 13 laurel to blades Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:15:15 -0500> From: imnetz@aol.com> To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Subject: [LDR] Laurel-Concord Road> > > Hi List,> > You might have read in my post about Manaen B. Marvel that I saw a drawing from 1823 with James Marvel's house on the Laurel-Concord Road. What roads do you think that would be today? The tract Snow Hill is described as about 2 miles from the Broad Creek wading place. James Marvel is living directly on the road and on the edge of the tract called Snow Hill. So at first I thought it is probably today's Sycamore Road and then Firetower Road. But the drawing has the road at more of an upright angle which fits better with Discount Land Road leading to Firetower Road. The oldest road map with any detail I have is the Beers Atlas and I've been comparing that to the 1915 topo maps on Maptech and modern maps. William Marvel, brother of James, owned several farms and most of them have the Laurel-Concord Road in their description. > > ! Where is the old Laurel-Concord Road?> > Thanks for any and all help,> > Nanette>

Ken -- Deputy was a "flag stop" a little less than a mile west of Ellendale (roughly paralleling current day State Route 16 from what I can tell). There is no trace of any structure today to my knowledge. Flag stops were common on the peninsula and in many rural areas in the 19th century and early 20th century. They were normally little more than shacks and did not constitute regular stops. Timetables would normally list such a station with the time trains were expected to pass by, and you (or the station agent if there was one) would "flag" a train down. The train would then stop, allowing you to climb aboard and buy a ticket from the conductor. Similarly, if someone on board the train wanted to stop there, he or she would inform the conductor who would signal to the engineer to stop. The concept is similar to modern trolley or tram systems -- unless the driver/engineer sees someone waiting or knows someone wants to get off they keep on going. A great resource for local railroads is *Rails along the Chesapeake : a history of railroading on the Delmarva Peninsula* by John Hayman. It was published in 1979 and has been out of print for close to 30 years. Most of the local libraries however stock multiple copies. It has maps, timetables, locomotive rosters, etc -- everything for the local train buff. Jim

Bob, I don't have any knowledge of another Cabin Creek, however, I live in Cabin Creek Neck which is approx. 3 miles from the Cabin Creek area in Dorchester County. I understand that in the early history of Dorchester County, that Cabin Creek was a community with a school, church, store, mill, homes, & other businesses. I have a church plate with a photo of the Cabin Creek Church. dorera@bcctv.net Regards, Doris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nichol" <bnichol@iname.com> To: <LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 10:42 AM Subject: [LDR] Cabin Creek [NICHOLS, WEST] > Good Morning, List-- > > In 1716 Benjamin Nichols--a possible ancestor of mine--sold Solomon West > a parcel of Dorchester Co. land called Sandwich, bounded by another > called Milland. The property was described as also being bounded by > Cabin Creek; the only Cabin Creek I have found so far is the one west of > modern-day Hurlock. That's a bit farther south than most other > Nichol/Nichols lands in the area, most being north of Hunting Creek and > west of Federalsburg. Was/is there another Cabin Creek? > > Bob Nichol > > -- > Be Yourself @ mail.com! > Choose From 200+ Email Addresses > Get a Free Account at www.mail.com > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Good Morning, List-- In 1716 Benjamin Nichols--a possible ancestor of mine--sold Solomon West a parcel of Dorchester Co. land called Sandwich, bounded by another called Milland. The property was described as also being bounded by Cabin Creek; the only Cabin Creek I have found so far is the one west of modern-day Hurlock. That's a bit farther south than most other Nichol/Nichols lands in the area, most being north of Hunting Creek and west of Federalsburg. Was/is there another Cabin Creek? Bob Nichol -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com