Hi, I'm wondering if William Marvel's parents were Robert Marvel II and Mary Smith? I have him born in 1803 so I think it must be another William Marvel, but from what part of the family? Thanks, Joni Calgary, AB -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ImNetz@aol.com Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 12:57 PM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [LDR] Laurel-Concord Road and mention of John GRACE Hello JoAnn, I don't know that much about John GRACE, except that he owned land near the Marvels in Broad Creek Hundred. This GRACE family appears on various websites if you Google, including these 2. _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tmcgowin/grace.htm_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tmcgowin/grace.htm) _http://vidas.rootsweb.ancestry.com/grace.html_ (http://vidas.rootsweb.ancestry.com/grace.html) John GRACE did write a will on 12 May 1799 that mentions a wife, Sarah, 2 sons --Thomas and John and 2 daughters-- Nancy and Polly. Polly was married to Jonathan MARTINO/MARTINEAU, the EX of John GRACE. The William MARVEL I am researching, buys 12 acres of land in 1815 from Nancy DIXON who inherited it from her father, John GRACE in 1802 (Sussex Deed AJ f173) and it borders William Marvel's land. But how a Samuel GRACE fits in, I cannot say. I would like to know more about the younger John GRACE myself as he has a daughter named Sally and William MARVEL was married to a Sarah/Sally and I do not know who her parents were. I do have this GRACE reference from William MARVEL's 1847 will. I found it interesting that the name GRACE was still being used in 1847. John GRACE'S son, Thomas, moved to Georgia. Maybe John GRACE, Jr. continued the family business? I know he was alive in 1803 as he sells land to Jonathan MARTINO (Sussex Deed Y f332) and he is listed on the 1803 Broad Creek Hundred tax list owning 145 acres of land. "Item To my grandson William W. Cooper I give and devise on undivided half part of minority of that portion of my farm in Broadcreek Hundred formerly in the possession of Jonathan Martineau which is situated on the eastern side of the road leading from GRACE's Mills dam to Thomas Short's house adjoining lands of Thomas Short, Cyprus Ward and others containing in the whole about one hundred and sixty acres to him and his heirs and assigns forever; and the other undivided half part or mority of the said portion of the said last mentioned farm I give and devise to my grandson William W. Cooper to him and his heirs in ...?... nevertheless for the uses and purposes following to wit. in trust to receive and pay only to my daughter Julia Ann Hasty the rents, issues and profits thereof during her natural life for her sole and separate use, behoof, and benefit and free from the control of her husband or his debts or liabilities and her separate receipt to be a sufficient acquittance and discharge therefor and at her death in trust to convey the same to the child or children of my said daughter Julia Ann as may then be living in fee simple and if my said daughter should have no issue living at the time of her death then in trust for his own use to him and his heirs and assigns forever." Hope this helps at least a little, Nanette In a message dated 2/5/2009 3:22:16 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, lower-delmarva-roots-request@rootsweb.com writes: Message: 1 Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:56:04 -0500 From: JoAnn Glenn-Lewin <jglennlewin@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [LDR] Laurel-Concord Road Revisited and the Skinner Farm (MENTION OF JOHN GRACE) To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <COL111-W5725ECA024AB174371B0D0B2C30@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Nanette: Any other mention of John GRACE other than the sale of land by his Executor? I think this may be my elusive ancestor! My Samuel GRACE moved from Sussex County to Frederica in Kent County prior to 1828. Samuel was b. 1796 At least this gives me something else to check out. I'm so excited! Message: 3Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:58:54 ESTFrom: ImNetz@aol.comSubject: Re: [LDR] Laurel-Concord Road Revisited and the Skinner Farmformerly NewboldTo: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.comMessage-ID: <c00.5097791a.36ba181e@aol.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Cree and List, Your information is very helpful, Cree, and the tract Round Pond is an excellent clue! I have been gathering information on the tract Round Pond and Round Pond Enlarged and every detail helps me pinpoint these locations. John HOUSTON sold p/o Round Pond in 1805 (Sussex Deed AB f16) to Joseph VINSON of Solomon. John HOUSTON sold p/o Round Pond Enlarged to Meschack ELLIOTT in 1810 (Sussex Deed AF 29, f187). Jonathan MARTINO, EX of John GRACE sold p/o Round Pond Enlarged to Joseph VINSON of Solomon in 1815 (Sussex Deed AI 32 f86) and the land is described as being on the west side of Mire(sic) Branch. These Grantees are neighbors of the MARVELS in Broad Creek Hundred and are mentioned in many o! f the deeds. Meschack ELLIOTT comes up quite often. I'll keep digging and let you know if I get a better fix on the so-called SKINNER Farm and it's location on the Laurel-Concord Road. Nanette Davis JoAnn JoAnn Glenn-Lewin Researching: Glenn, Grace, Jones, West, Grimstone, Burgien, Harry, Baldwin, Milhous, Nearey, McLaughlin, Douge "What you leave behind is not what is engraved in stone monuments, but what is woven into the lives of others." -Pericles **************Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?ncid=emlcntusmusi0 0000001) *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? 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Freda, Thanks much. This is one of 2 Meriums I have identified. I am looking for maiden names for her and her mother in law, Joyce. How about John Smith--do you know any more abt him other than what I find in his will? His parents? siblings? He lived in Accomack near an Edward Smith in whom I am also interested. Have his will too but not his parents or siblings. On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Freda Daniel <ftdan2@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Marjorie, > > James Smith d 1692 in Somerset Co, MD. He was m to Mariam. His parents were > John, d 1677, Accomack VA, and wife Joyce. Supposedly, James was the f/o > George. I haven't done a lot of research on this line past George. Lately I > saw a James Smith in Kent. Needs more work. > > Freda Kilgo Daniel > > --- On Tue, 1/27/09, marjorie adams <marjea@wildblue.net> wrote: > > From: marjorie adams <marjea@wildblue.net> > Subject: [LDR] Early Smiths > To: "LDR" <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> > Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 11:18 AM > > Anyone ever run into John and Joyce Smith, their son (I think) James and > Merium Smith or Armwell Smith, son of Edward and Ann (Showell) Smith? > Northampton, Accomack and Somerset before 1700. > > -- > Marjorie > "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and > to > play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Marjorie "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke

Jean, Regarding your last sentence: look at the deed for your own property. If you don't live in an apartment, subdivision, or condo describing EXACTLY were you live will take several lines. If you live in an apartment, subdivision, or condo, try describing EXACTLY where you live without using the name of the complex or subdivision. I have worked in surveying and currently work in assessing and bad land descriptions are a nightmare and what lawsuits are made of. Proverbs 22:28 Jay ----- Original Message ---- From: "jfstms@bellsouth.net" <jfstms@bellsouth.net> To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2009 10:30:48 AM Subject: Re: [LDR] Old abbreviations and their [sometimes difficult todetermine] meanings Thanks for the link, Dave. The article is interesting . . . paid by the word . . . that explains a lot. I have often wondered why it took a paragraph to say someone sold land to someone else. Jean -------------- Original message from "Dave & Jane Kearney" <kearneyd@erols.com>: -------------- I enjoyed Dorothee Hughes Carousso's article, "Colonial Handwriting Hazards and Hints," which can be found in the Pennsylvania Genealogical Magazine, vol. 30, no. 4 (1978) at p. 227 et seq. You hopefully can find the magazine and article available for reading on-line on google books at http://books.google.com/books?id=BcJ1jgnNp6sC&pg=PA235&lpg=PA235&dq=%2B%22coloni al+abbreviations%22&source=bl&ots=eiXz79KEp-&sig=xxTFDUpjTr2_ZvDIvd0GdI099FY&hl= > en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=result#PPA227,M1, > > Carousso even addresses colonial abbreviations on pages 235 & 236. > (As for those apparently out of place, odd, weird, and often seemingly indecipherable names, numbers, figures, dates, places, words, and letters, and so forth, I try not to toss them out the window too quickly. Sometimes some of > them mean something. And I have fun trying to figure them out in any event.) > > Dave K > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Marjorie,   James Smith d 1692 in Somerset Co, MD. He was m to Mariam. His parents were John, d 1677, Accomack VA, and wife Joyce. Supposedly, James was the f/o George. I haven't done a lot of research on this line past George. Lately I saw a James Smith in Kent. Needs more work.   Freda Kilgo Daniel --- On Tue, 1/27/09, marjorie adams <marjea@wildblue.net> wrote: From: marjorie adams <marjea@wildblue.net> Subject: [LDR] Early Smiths To: "LDR" <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 11:18 AM Anyone ever run into John and Joyce Smith, their son (I think) James and Merium Smith or Armwell Smith, son of Edward and Ann (Showell) Smith? Northampton, Accomack and Somerset before 1700. -- Marjorie "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I enjoyed Dorothee Hughes Carousso's article, "Colonial Handwriting Hazards and Hints," which can be found in the Pennsylvania Genealogical Magazine, vol. 30, no. 4 (1978) at p. 227 et seq. You hopefully can find the magazine and article available for reading on-line on google books at http://books.google.com/books?id=BcJ1jgnNp6sC&pg=PA235&lpg=PA235&dq=%2B%22colonial+abbreviations%22&source=bl&ots=eiXz79KEp-&sig=xxTFDUpjTr2_ZvDIvd0GdI099FY&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=result#PPA227,M1, Carousso even addresses colonial abbreviations on pages 235 & 236. (As for those apparently out of place, odd, weird, and often seemingly indecipherable names, numbers, figures, dates, places, words, and letters, and so forth, I try not to toss them out the window too quickly. Sometimes some of them mean something. And I have fun trying to figure them out in any event.) Dave K

I've pasted below my transcription of the Delaware marriage bond, dated December 10, 1820 and providing for the marriage of John A. WHORTON [WHARTON?] and Elazebeth [Elizabeth?] FREEMAN. I believe the copy that I worked from to have been a true copy of the bond. The copy includes the reference, "Marriage Reords, vol. [?] 44, p. [?] 193." The Genealogy Trails website, http://genealogytrails.com/del/sussex/sussexmarriages-W.html, carries an index listing for what seems to be the same bond under the heading, "Sussex County, Delaware Marriages 1645-1899, FHL Film Number 0006416-0006422" (submitted by Barb Ziegenmeyer). In the transcription, I've designated the handwritten entries on the bond form as **XX** (with XX as the handwritten entry). Bear in mind that what one sees in handwriting is in the eye of the beholder. Another reviewer might read the entries differently. The bond was made out to "Jacob Stout," as "Governour and Commander in chief of the State of Delaware." According to Russell Pickett's "Delaware Governors" website, Jacob STOUT was Delaware's 22nd governor. He was born "near Leipsic, De." The Delaware Governors website indicates that Governor Stout was a Federalist and a Presbyterian.The website further indicates that he married Angelica KILLEN in 1795 and that together they had five children, with associated family names of REED and SIPPLE. The transcription follows. I welcome feedback [I have Delaware Wharton, Freeman, and Benson ancestors.] Dave Kearney _______________ KNOW ALL MEN BY THESE PRESENTS, THAT WE, **John A. Whorton and Kindle West Both of Sussix County and state of Delaware** are firmly held and bound unto **Jacob Stout** Governour and Commander in chief of the State of Delaware, in the sum of **five** hundred pounds, good and lawful money of America, to be paid to the said **Jacob Stout** Esq. or his successors; to the which payment well and truly to be made, we bind ourselves jointly and severally, for and in the whole, our heirs, executors and administrators firmly by these presents. Sealed with our seals....Dated the **Tenth** day of **December** in the year of our Lord, one thousand eight hundred and **Twenty** The Condition of this Obligation is such, That if there shall not hereafter appear any lawful let or impediment, by reason of any pre-contract, consanguinity, affinity, or any other just cause whatsoever, but that the above mentioned **John A. Whorton and Elazebeth Freeman of the same place** may lawfully marry; and that there is not any suit depending before any judge, ecclesiastical or civil, for or concerning any such pre-contract; and alo [sic] if the said parties, and each of them, are of the ages following; to wit:: female of eighteen, and male of twenty-one years; and are not under the tuition of his or her parents, or have the full consent of his or her parents or guardians respectively, to the said marriage, and if they or either of them are not indented servants; and do and shall save harmless and keep indemnified the above named **Jacob Stout** Esq. and his successors, for and concerning the premises; and shall likewise save harmless and keep indemnified the clergyman or minister who shall join the said parties in matrimony, for or by reason of his so doing .. then this obligation to be void, or else to stand and remain in full force and virtue. **John A. Whorton** [sealed] **Kindle West** [sealed] Sealed and delivered } in the presence of: } **George Benson** **John W. Dirickson**

Jim Moore wrote: >The online charts list Rufus Massey (c1809-) as having married a Charlotte. This would be Charlotte LAYTON (c1809-by1880) of Sussex. They married 16 Dec 1833 according to DE marriage records.< You undoubtedly mean the Marriage Bond concerning the impending marriage between Chante May Gayton and Richa Marray . . . . well that is the way Ancestry has it indexed ! Her name is clearly written "Charlottey", but the writer's hand was very difficult. Anyway, this is not a record of marriage. The Bond was good for a month or so, and the couple could have obtained a license and gone through with the ceremony at any time before the Bond expired. Or not - there are many instances where the Bond was executed but some impediment was found (or one of the parties changed her or his mind) and the marriage vows never exchanged. So while the Marriage Bonds may have useful information (sometimes giving a parent's name, and often a relative of the bride was her surety in the Bond), they are not certain evidence that a marriage took place between a given couple. Good huntring, Judy</HTML>

Walt: In what jurisdiction does all this Kendle West and Henry Layton Cottingham activity take place? Jim Moore On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Walt and Rene <westresort@roadrunner.com>wrote: > Hi, > > In reading the will of Kendle West(d1822), my 4th great grandfather, I > noticed that in addition to bequests to his daughters, Mary Morris West > and Martha Miller West, and son Nathaniel, he leaves some money to a > Henry Layton Cottingham when Henry reaches age 21. Esther Cottingham was > Kendle's second wife and I assume that Henry Layton Cottingham is > Kendle's step-son, which leads me to wonder what Esther's maiden name > was. I also am puzzled by the middle names of Morris and Miller. I have > no records or information as to why those surnames would show up in my > West line, nor do I understand the connection of the Holloway name to > Ebenezer H. West who married Mary Morris West. Ebenezer's name is always > shown with just an "H." but since both of his sons ended up with > Holloway as a middle name, I assume Ebenezer's "H." is also Holloway. If > anyone is familiar with the Cottingham, Morris, Miller or Holloway lines > and how they might relate to my West line, I'd appreciate hearing from > you. Thanks. > > Walt West > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Listers: While tracing MASSEY of Wor (and then Som) this week, I noticed much online activity involving this family. Two points ... 1) The online charts list Rufus Massey (c1809-) as having married a Charlotte. This would be Charlotte LAYTON (c1809-by1880) of Sussex. They married 16 Dec 1833 according to DE marriage records. Now if I could just attach Charlotte to my Layton tree. 2) The online charts mistakenly say Rufus died about 1850. This would surprise Rufus, because he was living with son John in Brinkleys in 1880. Much of this family moved from West Berlin to Brinkleys. And while I'm talking Massey and Layton ... Helen Florence Layton (20 Jul 1916-15 Dec 1999) married Freddy Gordon Massey (17 Jul 1915-12 Nov 1963). They lived in Willards, I believe. Seems like it should be easy to attach Helen to the Laytons, but so far no luck. Jim Moore Wilmington

Teresa, Thank you for your offer, but the mystery has been solved by the ever-helpful Louise Planer. She discovered that the name in the Hudson records should be LAWSON, not LAYTON. She found a Lawson family with most of the names I cited living in the Millsboro area. At least I was able to dispose of that bunch of brick walls all at once. Have a nice weekend. Jim On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 7:18 AM, <tarantulac@aol.com> wrote: > > > > Jim, > > Since the Millsboro Cemetery is just down the road a piece, would you > like me to verify these records (and perhaps find additional Laytons)? > I'll check what I have in my Layton records and see if I've got some leads > for you. > > > > Teresa Derrickson > nee Chandler > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:58:42 -0500 > From: Jim Moore <moorejl@gmail.com> > Subject: [LDR] Selby Layton > To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <846bb6b30902051058u66059e7ag76a5b8c8aa8b7415@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Folks: I've got a clump of LAYTONs buried in the Millsboro Cem -- according > to Hudson Cem Records -- who do not appear in any records anywhere. After > years of fruitless attempts to link said clump to any family branch, I'm > asking for any help our Learned Listers might be able to provide. They > are: > Selby Layton (12 Jul 1832-24 Feb 1908) > wife Martha A (17 May 1834-30 Apr 1870) > > George R. Layton > wife #1 Sallie R (7 Jul 1866-17 Jan 1896) > wife #2 Effie M > Geo & Sallie: Lida J Layton (8 Aug 1892-8 Nov 1895) > Geo & Effie: Granville T Layton (11 Feb 1900-6 Feb 1903) > Leila M. Layton (17 Dec 1903-15 Jun 1923) > > Henry J Layton (7 Aug 1859--) > #1 Annie E (10 Aug 1861-28 Sep 18940 > #2 Carolene (17 Feb 1869--15 Mar 1902) > > Jebu Layton (26 Dec 1842-6 Sep 1916) > wife Lydia O (1 Mar 1850-) > > Lydia M. Layton (1840-1916) > > Robert T. Layton (1840-) > > Thank you. > > Jim Moore > Wilmington DE > > > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, In reading the will of Kendle West(d1822), my 4th great grandfather, I noticed that in addition to bequests to his daughters, Mary Morris West and Martha Miller West, and son Nathaniel, he leaves some money to a Henry Layton Cottingham when Henry reaches age 21. Esther Cottingham was Kendle's second wife and I assume that Henry Layton Cottingham is Kendle's step-son, which leads me to wonder what Esther's maiden name was. I also am puzzled by the middle names of Morris and Miller. I have no records or information as to why those surnames would show up in my West line, nor do I understand the connection of the Holloway name to Ebenezer H. West who married Mary Morris West. Ebenezer's name is always shown with just an "H." but since both of his sons ended up with Holloway as a middle name, I assume Ebenezer's "H." is also Holloway. If anyone is familiar with the Cottingham, Morris, Miller or Holloway lines and how they might relate to my West line, I'd appreciate hearing from you. Thanks. Walt West

Jim, Since the Millsboro Cemetery is just down the road a piece, would you like me to verify these records (and perhaps find additional Laytons)? I'll check what I have in my Layton records and see if I've got some leads for you. Teresa Derrickson nee Chandler ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:58:42 -0500 From: Jim Moore <moorejl@gmail.com> Subject: [LDR] Selby Layton To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <846bb6b30902051058u66059e7ag76a5b8c8aa8b7415@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Folks: I've got a clump of LAYTONs buried in the Millsboro Cem -- according to Hudson Cem Records -- who do not appear in any records anywhere. After years of fruitless attempts to link said clump to any family branch, I'm asking for any help our Learned Listers might be able to provide. They are: Selby Layton (12 Jul 1832-24 Feb 1908) wife Martha A (17 May 1834-30 Apr 1870) George R. Layton wife #1 Sallie R (7 Jul 1866-17 Jan 1896) wife #2 Effie M Geo & Sallie: Lida J Layton (8 Aug 1892-8 Nov 1895) Geo & Effie: Granville T Layton (11 Feb 1900-6 Feb 1903) Leila M. Layton (17 Dec 1903-15 Jun 1923) Henry J Layton (7 Aug 1859--) #1 Annie E (10 Aug 1861-28 Sep 18940 #2 Carolene (17 Feb 1869--15 Mar 1902) Jebu Layton (26 Dec 1842-6 Sep 1916) wife Lydia O (1 Mar 1850-) Lydia M. Layton (1840-1916) Robert T. Layton (1840-) Thank you. Jim Moore Wilmington DE

First name On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Freda Daniel <ftdan2@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Is this a first or last name? > > Freda Daniel > > --- On Wed, 2/4/09, marjorie adams <marjea@wildblue.net> wrote: > > From: marjorie adams <marjea@wildblue.net> > Subject: [LDR] looking for a Merium, Marium, Mirium, Myrom,,,, > To: "LDR" <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> > Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 12:28 PM > > Does anyone have a Merium in their research, b bef 1700 living in Somerset > or Accomack? > > -- > Marjorie > "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and > to > play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Marjorie "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke

Hello JoAnn, I don't know that much about John GRACE, except that he owned land near the Marvels in Broad Creek Hundred. This GRACE family appears on various websites if you Google, including these 2. _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tmcgowin/grace.htm_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tmcgowin/grace.htm) _http://vidas.rootsweb.ancestry.com/grace.html_ (http://vidas.rootsweb.ancestry.com/grace.html) John GRACE did write a will on 12 May 1799 that mentions a wife, Sarah, 2 sons --Thomas and John and 2 daughters-- Nancy and Polly. Polly was married to Jonathan MARTINO/MARTINEAU, the EX of John GRACE. The William MARVEL I am researching, buys 12 acres of land in 1815 from Nancy DIXON who inherited it from her father, John GRACE in 1802 (Sussex Deed AJ f173) and it borders William Marvel's land. But how a Samuel GRACE fits in, I cannot say. I would like to know more about the younger John GRACE myself as he has a daughter named Sally and William MARVEL was married to a Sarah/Sally and I do not know who her parents were. I do have this GRACE reference from William MARVEL's 1847 will. I found it interesting that the name GRACE was still being used in 1847. John GRACE'S son, Thomas, moved to Georgia. Maybe John GRACE, Jr. continued the family business? I know he was alive in 1803 as he sells land to Jonathan MARTINO (Sussex Deed Y f332) and he is listed on the 1803 Broad Creek Hundred tax list owning 145 acres of land. "Item To my grandson William W. Cooper I give and devise on undivided half part of minority of that portion of my farm in Broadcreek Hundred formerly in the possession of Jonathan Martineau which is situated on the eastern side of the road leading from GRACE’s Mills dam to Thomas Short’s house adjoining lands of Thomas Short, Cyprus Ward and others containing in the whole about one hundred and sixty acres to him and his heirs and assigns forever; and the other undivided half part or mority of the said portion of the said last mentioned farm I give and devise to my grandson William W. Cooper to him and his heirs in ...?... nevertheless for the uses and purposes following to wit. in trust to receive and pay only to my daughter Julia Ann Hasty the rents, issues and profits thereof during her natural life for her sole and separate use, behoof, and benefit and free from the control of her husband or his debts or liabilities and her separate receipt to be a sufficient acquittance and discharge therefor and at her death in trust to convey the same to the child or children of my said daughter Julia Ann as may then be living in fee simple and if my said daughter should have no issue living at the time of her death then in trust for his own use to him and his heirs and assigns forever." Hope this helps at least a little, Nanette In a message dated 2/5/2009 3:22:16 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, lower-delmarva-roots-request@rootsweb.com writes: Message: 1 Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:56:04 -0500 From: JoAnn Glenn-Lewin <jglennlewin@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [LDR] Laurel-Concord Road Revisited and the Skinner Farm (MENTION OF JOHN GRACE) To: <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <COL111-W5725ECA024AB174371B0D0B2C30@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Nanette: Any other mention of John GRACE other than the sale of land by his Executor? I think this may be my elusive ancestor! My Samuel GRACE moved from Sussex County to Frederica in Kent County prior to 1828. Samuel was b. 1796 At least this gives me something else to check out. I'm so excited! Message: 3Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:58:54 ESTFrom: ImNetz@aol.comSubject: Re: [LDR] Laurel-Concord Road Revisited and the Skinner Farmformerly NewboldTo: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.comMessage-ID: <c00.5097791a.36ba181e@aol.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Cree and List, Your information is very helpful, Cree, and the tract Round Pond is an excellent clue! I have been gathering information on the tract Round Pond and Round Pond Enlarged and every detail helps me pinpoint these locations. John HOUSTON sold p/o Round Pond in 1805 (Sussex Deed AB f16) to Joseph VINSON of Solomon. John HOUSTON sold p/o Round Pond Enlarged to Meschack ELLIOTT in 1810 (Sussex Deed AF 29, f187). Jonathan MARTINO, EX of John GRACE sold p/o Round Pond Enlarged to Joseph VINSON of Solomon in 1815 (Sussex Deed AI 32 f86) and the land is described as being on the west side of Mire(sic) Branch. These Grantees are neighbors of the MARVELS in Broad Creek Hundred and are mentioned in many o! f the deeds. Meschack ELLIOTT comes up quite often. I'll keep digging and let you know if I get a better fix on the so-called SKINNER Farm and it's location on the Laurel-Concord Road. Nanette Davis JoAnn JoAnn Glenn-Lewin Researching: Glenn, Grace, Jones, West, Grimstone, Burgien, Harry, Baldwin, Milhous, Nearey, McLaughlin, Douge "What you leave behind is not what is engraved in stone monuments, but what is woven into the lives of others." -Pericles **************Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?ncid=emlcntusmusi00000001)

I have a lot of Meriam/Merriam folks in my data, descended from Joseph Merriam (born c 1600 in Tudeley, County Kent, England and died 1640 Middlesex, Mass). This Joseph left a great many descendants. The ones I've followed remained in northern areas, no Maryland settlers that I've found. But I have not researched this family very far. My reference for this family data is: Merriam Genealogy by Charles Henry Pope at: merriamfamilypapers.com This site also focuses on northern immigrants but perhaps you'll find a lead. Elaine Sunde

Folks: I've got a clump of LAYTONs buried in the Millsboro Cem -- according to Hudson Cem Records -- who do not appear in any records anywhere. After years of fruitless attempts to link said clump to any family branch, I'm asking for any help our Learned Listers might be able to provide. They are: Selby Layton (12 Jul 1832-24 Feb 1908) wife Martha A (17 May 1834-30 Apr 1870) George R. Layton wife #1 Sallie R (7 Jul 1866-17 Jan 1896) wife #2 Effie M Geo & Sallie: Lida J Layton (8 Aug 1892-8 Nov 1895) Geo & Effie: Granville T Layton (11 Feb 1900-6 Feb 1903) Leila M. Layton (17 Dec 1903-15 Jun 1923) Henry J Layton (7 Aug 1859--) #1 Annie E (10 Aug 1861-28 Sep 18940 #2 Carolene (17 Feb 1869--15 Mar 1902) Jebu Layton (26 Dec 1842-6 Sep 1916) wife Lydia O (1 Mar 1850-) Lydia M. Layton (1840-1916) Robert T. Layton (1840-) Thank you. Jim Moore Wilmington DE

Is this a first or last name?   Freda Daniel --- On Wed, 2/4/09, marjorie adams <marjea@wildblue.net> wrote: From: marjorie adams <marjea@wildblue.net> Subject: [LDR] looking for a Merium, Marium, Mirium, Myrom,,,, To: "LDR" <lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 12:28 PM Does anyone have a Merium in their research, b bef 1700 living in Somerset or Accomack? -- Marjorie "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It is especially disconcerting when a date is mis-written - and these can occur not only by the transcribers but even the original writers. Note the following example: ========1========== SoLR-IK:19 of the Somerset County, Maryland Land Records reads, "Capt. Wm Whittington planter, Somerset County agst Adam Hitch of Stepney Parish in ye county of Somerset planter and Anne his Adam Hitch et uxor wife late Anne Bondick Alias Dictus. Anne Bondick of Stepney Parish in ye county aft sumonsed to appear unto Wm Whittington of a plea that they render unto him 3412 pounds of tobacco and _____ from him they unjustly detained. Any where upon Francis Allen his attorney saith that whereas ye ___ Anne for thee was sole to witt ye 8 day of Oct 1617 (sic) at ye Parish and county of within jurisdiction of this court by her certain willing obligatory which ye set in with ye seale of the said Anne signed here into Court brings ye date where of ye same day & year did acknowledge ye herselfe to be bound unto ye Wm 3412 pounds of tobacco ___ to be paid unto ye said Wm when he should be there unto required yet ye Anne whilst ____ that often required the same for ye Wm hath not rendered nor ye Adam & Anne since ye (nuptuals?) between them celebrated but ye same to render hath denyed & ___ doth deny to ye damage of the said Wm of 2000 pounds of tobacco where of he bring ____" (underlined areas are hard to decipher) The trial for this record occurred on Nov 3 1719. EDIT: note the reference to the year 1617 when it probably should have been 1717 or 1719 (too much hard cider?) ========1========== Best Regards, Mike Hitch "so often times it happens that we live our lives in chains and we never even know we have the key..." - Eagles (Already Gone) -----Original Message----- From: lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lower-delmarva-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Johnlyon0@cs.com Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 3:24 AM To: lower-delmarva-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LDR] Old abbreviations and their [lack of] meanings Frostfreedet@aol.com wrote: >We are by no means the only ones who make mistakes or write-while-tired. >Best wishes, >Judy ____________ Unraveling these inadvertencies can sometimes be enormous trouble. From experience, more examples: One Somerset will in my own direct ancestry mistakenly misnames a daughter Mary (my ancestress) as "Elizabeth", a lapse evidently mis-entering the name of the widow for the intended daughter. Bringing to bear several related land records and administration papers finally made the discrepancy clear. This had baffled and misled family researchers for many years. As I mentioned, land records suffer from this a lot -- clerks all too often entered "west" for "east" or such, or mis-read "seventy" for "twenty" (a very common form of mis-read). These entered the patent definitions and were sometimes used by (re)surveyors many years later, sometimes appended with a bewildered annotation along the lines of "that's what it says". With modern tools in hand, these things can now often be ferreted out: even in ambiguous (as opposed to simpler) cases, mapping software allows reconstruction of neighborhoods, and abutting properties which don't fit as they should can expose the error. A little experimentation shows what went wrong and allows the clerical mistake to be fixed in the bad record ... 300+ years later. Trust no one. John *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Frostfreedet@aol.com wrote: >We are by no means the only ones who make mistakes or write-while-tired. >Best wishes, >Judy ____________ Unraveling these inadvertencies can sometimes be enormous trouble. From experience, more examples: One Somerset will in my own direct ancestry mistakenly misnames a daughter Mary (my ancestress) as "Elizabeth", a lapse evidently mis-entering the name of the widow for the intended daughter. Bringing to bear several related land records and administration papers finally made the discrepancy clear. This had baffled and misled family researchers for many years. As I mentioned, land records suffer from this a lot -- clerks all too often entered "west" for "east" or such, or mis-read "seventy" for "twenty" (a very common form of mis-read). These entered the patent definitions and were sometimes used by (re)surveyors many years later, sometimes appended with a bewildered annotation along the lines of "that's what it says". With modern tools in hand, these things can now often be ferreted out: even in ambiguous (as opposed to simpler) cases, mapping software allows reconstruction of neighborhoods, and abutting properties which don't fit as they should can expose the error. A little experimentation shows what went wrong and allows the clerical mistake to be fixed in the bad record ... 300+ years later. Trust no one. John

>>>> In one rather crucial record of a pre-nuptial agreement between one of my ancestors and his 3rd wife, the County Clerk signed his own name as that of the male party ... <<<< _________________ Not a Freudian slip? (Even a written "mistake" might reveal a good story.) Dave K