Hi, I've had a slow down on my research as I was helping a friend do some work on her Tree, which naturally got me interested in going back to my own tree :) I thought the best place to start was with two articles I have in my possession. One is simply titled Smith by Vernon L. Skinner, Jr. It first lists a David Smith, Somerset, and talks about land named Givan's Last Chance. It goes on to a David Smith, Worcester, and talks about Busby Neck, Buck's Neck, Canaan, Goshen, Pea Patch, Smith's Good Will, Smith's Delight, Stoughton's Good Will, Smith's Lott. Does anyone know if this is the same David Smith? I believe this is the David Smith connected to Henry Trader and Elizabeth Smith. If this is the same man, boy, did he own a lot of land! He then discusses the John Smith who lived in Accomac County. He wrote his will on October 27, 1677. I am wondering if this could be one of the four Smith brothers who came over from England (Henry & Thomas on the Primrose and Edward and John on the High Hope in 1635 - from Vaughn Baker) Vaughn Baker's "Chrono Facts Smiths, Lanes, and Truitts of Worcester County". It is simply a chronology of all the Smiths in paperwork he could find starting in 1607 and continuing to 1760. Then there are Smith names, with wives and kids. It doesn't link Smiths together but if you have some firm dates it may help. I am going to go through these name by name again as I've added a lot of Smith names since I started so may be able to pick up some new/old information. I would sure be willing to help anyone who I could help. I guess my main question is does anyone know of someone who has jumped the pond to link these four Smith brothers to their families in England. I would love to be able to start in on the England Smith families. But a wise old genealogist once told me to find every scrap of information on the Smiths here before jumping the pond so I intend to do that in the next few months. Thanks and keep posting to LDR. Love to read the discussions! Joni

I have the Wright/Stevens Family Tree booklet. It lists some info for Susie Fuller, although, not her parents. Please contact me off list. I will be glad to share the info in the booklet. [email protected] Regards, Doris ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 11:40 AM Subject: [LDR] Clinton Earl Stevens/Susie J. Fuller > In the Hurlock Maryland district, Clinton Earl Stevens, Sr., 1887-1978 , > married Susie J Fuller, 1897-1964, Clinton, a son of Martha Emma Wright > Stevens, 1865-1919, and Daniel James Stevens, 1864-1919, who all lived > probably around Williamsburg and are buried at Unity Washington at > Hurlock. Does anyone have the parents and/or ancestors of Susie J. Fuller. > This data will be appreciated. Thank you. > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In the Hurlock Maryland district, Clinton Earl Stevens, Sr., 1887-1978 , married Susie J Fuller, 1897-1964, Clinton, a son of Martha Emma Wright Stevens, 1865-1919, and Daniel James Stevens, 1864-1919, who all lived probably around Williamsburg and are buried at Unity Washington at Hurlock. Does anyone have the parents and/or ancestors of Susie J. Fuller. This data will be appreciated. Thank you.

I am trying to find the burial place of -- Elizabeth Emma Bramble " Lena ", b. Aug.1887 Dor. Co. d. 30 July 1933 Dor. Co. Daughter of John W. and Ellen Finn Bramble. She married #1 Major Bradford #2 Perry A. Wallace. If anyone knows where " Lena" is buried please contact me. Sylvia

The following information is still a stumbling block to me in my research. I think these families are the link I need to complete my Paul family tree but I can not complete my file until I find the key info to link them together. I want to share the following information again with anyone working on the Paul family, especially in Dorchester County or any where that may connect to these families I hope you can add to it to help me a little more. Source : -- Dorchester County Genealogical Magazine, Vol.5, #6, Pg.24, March 1986, Issn 8755 2353 Book located at Dor. Co. Library, Cambridge,, Dor. Co., MD Abstract of Dorchester Co. Wills at Hall of Records, Annapolis MD. Liber 34, folio 237 Lewis Griffith 2 Jan 1761 6 May 1766 Father - Lewis Griffith Sister - Mary Keen Friend - Johnathan Patridge To - Lewis Griffith Paul, son of Rachel Paul To. - Slitor Griffith Paul, son of Rachel Paul To - Dosier Griffith Paul, dau., of Rachel Paul To - Jean ( Jane ) Griffith Paul, dau of Rachel Paul To - Mary Paul, supposed dau., of Betty Paul (all Paul children minors) Wit: - William Dean Jr., John Gootee Jr., Wm. Edger Jr., Richard Lane Source : -- Great Choptank Records, Vol 3, Pgs. 35 and 43, by James McAllister Jr., 1968. Book located at Dorchester Co. Library, Cambridge, Dor. Co., MD Baptisms : - Peggy Paul born 28 Sept 1801 Parents - Slighter and Rebecca Paul Baptized - 13 April 1802 Jabus Paul born 13 Sept 1804 Parents - Slighter and Rebecca Paul Baptized - 3 May 1805 Jabus/Jabez Paul married Julia Ann Magraw/Mcgrath 6 July 1854 They had ten children I'm sure of -- Amanda Matthew Thomas K. Melvina Jane Mary A. John William -My grandfather, he married Myra Mahala Wallace Joseph Martin Earnest Lazarus James Linden Medford Source -- Census records - 1860,70,80,1900, and - my Father's memories ! I would like to know - 1 . Who was the husband of Rachel Paul 2.. What was Rebecca's Maiden name and who were her parents and siblings 3. Did Slighter and Rebecca have any other children 4. Who did Peggy marry and who were her children 5. Who were the parents of Jabus / Jabez Paul Thanks to everyone who helped me before! The last time I posted this message the response was wonderful The information received was very useful and filled in several blank spots. Sylvia

this is so valuable - thanks for taking the time to share! Best regards, Judy --- On Mon, 5/24/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LDR] lower three counties of Pennsylvania To: [email protected] Date: Monday, May 24, 2010, 11:36 AM Judy Ebner wrote >Would anyone know by chance if there are such message boards/groups for Delaware, Chester, or Juniata counties?< Yes, of course there are. For a list of Rootsweb mailing lists, go to the board compiled by the late John P. Fuller http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html Click on general categories to see lists. In general, County lists' addresses to send posts are in format, State 2-letter abbreviation, then first 6 letters in County name (e.g., MDSOMERS), followed by at Rootsweb.com.  To subscribe add "-request" between the County letters and "at" (no quotes anywhere) and put only the word subscribe in both subject and body. Judy</HTML> *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to Andrew Huston and Dave Kearny for your responses to my query about early Somerset County coroner's records, etc. I was interested as well in what Mr. Brown of the Delaware Medical Examiner's Office had to say to Mr. Huston about the lack of coroner's records in the Delaware Public Archives. Now that I think about it, this isn't entirely surprising. Several of the last Sussex County coroners were friends of my family and both of the ones we knew were undertakers, as opposed to medical professionals. In Delaware, anyway, the office of coroner was an elective position like the county row offices (prothonotary, recorder of deeds, register of wills, etc.) and coroners worked part time out of their own homes, along with pursuing their regular occupations. They probably simply kept their records, such as they were, after their terms ended, as opposed to having them entered into large dockets at the courthouse. Another close friend of mine was an undertaker who purchased an already established business which had started in the 19th century. He had old ledgers that came with the business containing quite a bit of information of historical value. So trying to track down pre-Civil War records of this type is probably a losing proposition. Oh, well. Thanks again, Dick Carter -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 3:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Digest, Vol 5, Issue 142 LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Administrivia For information about the Lower Delmarva Roots Mailing List, including list guidelines and instructions for unsubscribing and subscribing, see the LDRoots FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm Today's Topics: 1. Re: Somerset County, MD ante-bellum coroner's records and/or newspapers ([email protected]) 2. Antebellum coroner's records and/or newspapers (Dave & Jane Kearney) 3. Re: lower three counties of Pennsylvania (Jackie Helmke) 4. Dames Quarter Parks ([email protected]) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 14:12:32 -0400 (EDT) From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LDR] Somerset County, MD ante-bellum coroner's records and/or newspapers To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" This won't help you with Maryland, but for anyone interested in Sussex County, DE, I have looked, without success, for a coroner's report for a Jonathan Short. His 1793 probate administration shows expenses paid both to the coroner, and also for witness fees at an inquest. I checked first with the DE Archives (the most likely repository), and they did not have anything about it. I also checked with the DE Historical Society and came up empty-handed. I then corresponded with Hal Brown, Deputy Director of the Delaware Office of the Chief Medical Examiner. Mr. Brown went WAY above the call of duty, and sent me this response (within 3 days): I am sorry to report that we do not have a single record here prior to 1955. Delaware established a medical examiner system in 1955 to work alongside of the pre-existing coroner system. It was not until about a decade later in 1964 that the system became successful. In 1970, after 15 years of uphill battles with supporters of the antiquated coroner system, it was abolished, resulting in a statewide medical examiner system. Just to be positive, I personally visited our archives today and there is simply nothing in existence here, prior to 1955. Whereas the Delaware archives did not have the record you are seeking, I would next check with the Delaware Historical Society _http://delgensoc.org/dehisrec.html_ (http://delgensoc.org/dehisrec.html) and also see what they have. I'm sure you are probably already aware of Delaware Genealogical Abstracts from Newspapers. Volume 3: Delaware Marriages and Deaths from the Newspaper? Might be worth a peek, but who knows? (I do not have a copy or would check right now for you). If nothing else, it might serve as a guide to what newspapers were in existence at that time. _http://www.heritagebooks.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=HBI&Affiliate=dkc&Product_C ode=R0030_ (http://www.heritagebooks.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=HBI&Affiliate=dkc&Product_Code=R0030) I haven't been able to locate a newspaper based in Sussex around 1796, so I'm afraid this angle will be a dead-end as well. It's too bad; I think there are many interesting stories which have been lost with the coroners' records. Andrew Huston **********

Judy Ebner wrote >Would anyone know by chance if there are such message boards/groups for Delaware, Chester, or Juniata counties?< Yes, of course there are. For a list of Rootsweb mailing lists, go to the board compiled by the late John P. Fuller http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html Click on general categories to see lists. In general, County lists' addresses to send posts are in format, State 2-letter abbreviation, then first 6 letters in County name (e.g., MDSOMERS), followed by at Rootsweb.com. To subscribe add "-request" between the County letters and "at" (no quotes anywhere) and put only the word subscribe in both subject and body. Judy</HTML>

Jackie wrote >I am also looking for information about Conestoga Manor, Lancaster Co PA.< There is a mailing list devoted to Lancaster Co., PA where you can post queries about Conestoga Manor (as well as of course message boards for Lancaster Co., PA). Send an email to [email protected] with only the word subscribe in the subject and message box. You can browse the list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/palancas and use the link to search the archive. Judy</HTML>

This is very interesting. Would anyone know by chance if there are such message boards/groups for Delaware, Chester, or Juniata counties?  Thanks. Judy --- On Mon, 5/24/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LDR] lower three counties of Pennsylvania To: [email protected] Date: Monday, May 24, 2010, 8:07 AM Jackie wrote >I am also looking for information about Conestoga Manor, Lancaster Co PA.< There is a mailing list devoted to Lancaster Co., PA where you can post queries about Conestoga Manor (as well as of course message boards for Lancaster Co., PA). Send an email to [email protected] with only the word subscribe in the subject and message box. You can browse the list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/palancas and use the link to search the archive. Judy</HTML> *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have long wondered why I could not find record of my grgrgrandmother Emily D.B.Parkinson Crockett's burial site. I was told recently it was because after Jocephus Crockett died, she remarried a man named "Parks" and had a child named Mary. In checking census records online I found a Charles T. Parks (who actually lived with his father Edward next door to Emily's father and mother in the 1880 census). In the 1900 census I find Charles T. Parks and daughter Mary. Then in 1910 I find a granddaughter Martha living with them and then they disappear. John Crockett, Emily's son, told his daughter (yes she is still alive and of sound mind, amazingly enough) this information long ago on a visit to Jocephus Crockett's (his father) grave on Deal Island. When his daughter asked about Emily's whereabouts, she was told she had remarried a man named Parks and the family did not approve of the marriage. He told her that Emily was "buried along a ditch bank" in Dames Quarter. Do any of you Parks researchers know where Emily is buried or have any other information regarding her or Mary or Martha? Emily must have died before 1900 as she is not in the census. Sure would like a picture of her. I have one of Jocephus but have never seen one of Emily. Thanks for any help , Teresa

Andrew and Dick, I haven't been following your thread too closely, but it seems that Hal Brown, despite his thorough review, doesn't seem to have addressed whether the individual Delaware counties conceivably could have held on to any coroner records without them being passed on to the Delaware Archives, etc. Have you checked with the counties directly? I know that's a long shot, at best, for many reasons, but might be worth a check. Funeral homes sometimes retain broad records, I understand. Would there be some way to check for records you seek through them (if "lines of ownership succession" could be established)? As a side note, it appears that "antebellum" in the case of the transfer in authority from a coroner system to a medical examiner system in Delaware might mean, "prior to the end of the Vietnam War" given that the old system wasn't abolished until 1970 according to Hal Brown's review. :-) Dave Kearney ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] Somerset County,MD ante-bellum coroner's records and/or newspapers > This won't help you with Maryland, but for anyone interested in Sussex > County, DE, I have looked, without success, for a coroner's report for a > Jonathan Short. His 1793 probate administration shows expenses paid both > to the > coroner, and also for witness fees at an inquest. I checked first with > the DE Archives (the most likely repository), and they did not have > anything > about it. I also checked with the DE Historical Society and came up > empty-handed. > > I then corresponded with Hal Brown, Deputy Director of the Delaware > Office > of the Chief Medical Examiner. Mr. Brown went WAY above the call of > duty, > and sent me this response (within 3 days): > > I am sorry to report that we do not have a single record here prior to > 1955. Delaware established a medical examiner system in 1955 to work > alongside of the pre-existing coroner system. It was not until about a > decade later > in 1964 that the system became successful. In 1970, after 15 years of > uphill battles with supporters of the antiquated coroner system, it was > abolished, resulting in a statewide medical examiner system. Just to be > positive, I personally visited our archives today and there is simply > nothing in > existence here, prior to 1955. > Whereas the Delaware archives did not have the record you are seeking, I > would next check with the Delaware Historical Society > _http://delgensoc.org/dehisrec.html_ (http://delgensoc.org/dehisrec.html) > and also see what they > have. I'm sure you are probably already aware of Delaware Genealogical > Abstracts from Newspapers. Volume 3: Delaware Marriages and Deaths from > the > Newspaper? Might be worth a peek, but who knows… (I do not have a copy > or > would check right now for you). If nothing else, it might serve as a > guide to what newspapers were in existence at that time. > _http://www.heritagebooks.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=HBI&Affiliate=dkc&Product_C > ode=R0030_ > (http://www.heritagebooks.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=HBI&Affiliate=dkc&Product_Code=R0030) > I haven't been able to locate a newspaper based in Sussex around 1796, so > I'm afraid this angle will be a dead-end as well. > It's too bad; I think there are many interesting stories which have been > lost with the coroners' records. > Andrew Huston > > > > > Folks: > > I am wondering if anyone is aware of the existence of any coroner's files > for Somerset County, Maryland, for the pre-Civil War period. I would > also > like to know if there were any newspapers published in Princess Anne or > elsewhere in the county for that period, and, if so, where any surviving > copies might be located. I checked the Nabb Center for both these > materials a > couple of years ago without success. > I'm attempting to verify the details of a bit of old family lore told to > me by my grandmother, Mary Letitia Porter Carter (1887-1983), who was > born > and raised in Somerset and lived there until she moved with my > grandfather > to Sussex County, Delaware, in the 1930s. > > Thanks, > Dick Carter > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This won't help you with Maryland, but for anyone interested in Sussex County, DE, I have looked, without success, for a coroner's report for a Jonathan Short. His 1793 probate administration shows expenses paid both to the coroner, and also for witness fees at an inquest. I checked first with the DE Archives (the most likely repository), and they did not have anything about it. I also checked with the DE Historical Society and came up empty-handed. I then corresponded with Hal Brown, Deputy Director of the Delaware Office of the Chief Medical Examiner. Mr. Brown went WAY above the call of duty, and sent me this response (within 3 days): I am sorry to report that we do not have a single record here prior to 1955. Delaware established a medical examiner system in 1955 to work alongside of the pre-existing coroner system. It was not until about a decade later in 1964 that the system became successful. In 1970, after 15 years of uphill battles with supporters of the antiquated coroner system, it was abolished, resulting in a statewide medical examiner system. Just to be positive, I personally visited our archives today and there is simply nothing in existence here, prior to 1955. Whereas the Delaware archives did not have the record you are seeking, I would next check with the Delaware Historical Society _http://delgensoc.org/dehisrec.html_ (http://delgensoc.org/dehisrec.html) and also see what they have. I'm sure you are probably already aware of Delaware Genealogical Abstracts from Newspapers. Volume 3: Delaware Marriages and Deaths from the Newspaper? Might be worth a peek, but who knows… (I do not have a copy or would check right now for you). If nothing else, it might serve as a guide to what newspapers were in existence at that time. _http://www.heritagebooks.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=HBI&Affiliate=dkc&Product_C ode=R0030_ (http://www.heritagebooks.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=HBI&Affiliate=dkc&Product_Code=R0030) I haven't been able to locate a newspaper based in Sussex around 1796, so I'm afraid this angle will be a dead-end as well. It's too bad; I think there are many interesting stories which have been lost with the coroners' records. Andrew Huston Folks: I am wondering if anyone is aware of the existence of any coroner's files for Somerset County, Maryland, for the pre-Civil War period. I would also like to know if there were any newspapers published in Princess Anne or elsewhere in the county for that period, and, if so, where any surviving copies might be located. I checked the Nabb Center for both these materials a couple of years ago without success. I'm attempting to verify the details of a bit of old family lore told to me by my grandmother, Mary Letitia Porter Carter (1887-1983), who was born and raised in Somerset and lived there until she moved with my grandfather to Sussex County, Delaware, in the 1930s. Thanks, Dick Carter

I am going through my e-mails, filing and deleteing. This is why this is such an old e-mail. I am also looking for information about Conestoga Manor, Lancaster Co PA. This appears to have been the proprietary lands of Wm Penn. I think my Theophilus Simonton I, his wife, Mary Smith; their children: (1) Theophilus II, b. abt 1705, who d. in 1750 in Lancaster Co PA, (may have m. __ Frame); (2) Robert, b. abt 1710 ( m. Margaret ?-Gaston); (3)Ann, b abt 1720, m. Andrew Allison; (4)Magdalene b. 31 Aug 1725, m. Thomas Allison; and (5)Mary b. abt 1722, m. Samuel Thornton; (6)William, m. Mary McKee, all lived on this land until 1754 or later, when Theophilus I died. I think Theophilus I is buried in PA, his will was probated in Rowan Co NC. His widow, Mary Smith Simonton, attempted to sue James Patterson about the land in PA. after the family had left PA and moved to then Rowan Co NC. This suit was written about in the Backwoods book, but cannot find evidence of it. The will packet of Theophilus II, in Lancaster Co PA, is empty, can find no bonds, etc, I wonder if at this death, the family realized they did not actually own the land. Mary Smith Simonton was the sister of Archibald Smith, who d. and left will, 1729, Lewes, Sussex Co DE. In the will, Archibald stated that Theophilus Simonton was the husband of his sister, Mary, and that there were 6 children in the family. In Archibald Smith's will, he left to Theophilus and Mary, 350 acres formerly belonging to James Barrs. I have never found the location of this land. Thanks to all.... Jackie Helmke [email protected] This message has been screened by Norton ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] lower three counties of Pennsylvania > > Re request for more information "Warrants & Surveys by Weinberg & > Slattery": > > Heritage Quest: In a reasonably complete, but quick search, I did not > find a copy of > Weinberg/Slattery on Heritage Quest. > > Google: The Weinberg/Slattery book has multiple listings here. All were > listed > either "No or limited preview" (which means no "serious" research of the > book can be > accomplished on Google). > > LDS Library, Salt Lake City: They have the Weinberg/Slattery book listed > in their > catalog. The book may be used in the library at Salt Lake. There is a > film copy of > the book which may be rented & viewed through the Family History Center > nearest your > home (the price is generally 5.00-7.00 for a 3 week rental). > > I did not look beyond the above three "likely" (for finding such a book) > places. The > book may (or may not) be available elsewhere on line. > > Joe Lake > > > From: "John Johnson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 10:08 AM > Subject: Re: [LDR] lower three counties of Pennsylvania > > >> Anyone, >> >> I am confused. Is this book online or not? >> >> "Warrants and surveys of the province of Pennsylvania including the three >> lower >> counties" >> by - Allen Weinberg and Thomas Slattery >> >> John >> >> I got the impression from these messages that it was online, but I can't >> find it. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: John Polk<mailto:[email protected]> >> To: >> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:07 PM >> Subject: Re: [LDR] lower three counties of Pennsylvania >> >> >> Joe - >> >> Thanks. That helps put a perspective on this list. It also brings up a >> couple questions. Main one is whether there is a whole set of other >> Proprietary land papers which are distinct from the land records one >> normally accesses at the PA Archives. If so where are they archived. It >> would be nice to compare the other (non-Delaware) counties on Weinberg >> and >> Slattery's list against the warrants and patents index at the PA >> Archives >> site to see how they compare. That would take some time as they are >> organized differently. Another big question is whether the Proprietors >> had a >> master list (Rent Roll) of all the patented tracts from which they were >> supposed to be receiving rents. >> >> JP >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >> To: >> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 16:09 >> Subject: Re: [LDR] lower three counties of Pennsylvania >> >> >> > John Polk .... >> > >> > The book "Warrants & Surveys of Col. PA. incl. 3 Lower Counties" is >> not on >> > Heritage >> > Quest, but is on Google Books (but with NO preview). The Salt Lake >> LDS >> > library also >> > has a copy, which has been filmed. >> > >> > The book listing on the Salt Lake Library Catalog contains the >> following >> > note, which >> > could be an underlying reason as to why the records you have checked >> have >> > been, >> > apparently, incomplete. The following note, however, was specifically >> on >> > the record >> > for the above book. >> > >> > Joe Lake >> > ====================================================================== >> > >> > Notes >> > Reprint of 1965 edition published by Department of Records, >> Philadelphia. >> > The Provincial Assembly representing the people of Pennsylvania were >> in >> > conflict with >> > the sons of William Penn who were the Proprietaries of the Province of >> > Pennsylvania. >> > Records of Warrants under the control of the Proprietaries and which >> > ordered surveys >> > to be made were not public records. This created confusion over >> property >> > rights and >> > boundaries. In 1759 the Assembly passed a law for recording warrants >> and >> > surveys. The >> > Proprietaries in 1760 brought the law before the King who vetoed it. >> In >> > the meantime, >> > the warrants were transcribed and made public. This is an index of >> names >> > recorded in >> > the warrants in the present-day Pennsylvania counties of Berks, Bucks, >> > Chester, >> > Cumberland, Lancaster, Northampton, Philadelphia, and York; and the >> three >> > counties >> > Kent, Newcastle, and Sussex making up Delaware >> > >> > >> ======================================================================== >> >> Mary - >> >> >> >> An index of the Pennsylvania land grants is on line at >> >> >> http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt/community/land_records/3184<http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt/community/land_records/3184> >> >> This includes grants issued in the lower three counties that became >> the >> >> state of Delaware when the Revolution started. As mentioned in an >> earlier >> >> note to LDR List (28 May), I have an issue with the relatively small >> >> number >> >> of grants appearing in the index for the lower three counties. It >> seem >> >> there >> >> ought to be more. I found a different list in "Warrants and Surveys >> of >> >> the >> >> Province of Pennsylvania including the Three Lower Counties," >> compiled by >> >> Allen Weinberg and Thomas Slattery, Department of Records, City of >> >> Philadelphia, 1965. This covers the colonial period up through 1759. >> I do >> >> not have the book at hand but did make a copy of the warrants just >> for >> >> New >> >> Castle County - 155 of them altogether. There are quite a few entries >> in >> >> this list which do not correspond to anything in the Pennsylvania >> Patents >> >> Index so it confirms to me that there are some tracts missing from >> the >> >> index. I will be happy to send you a copy of Weinberg and Slattery's >> list >> >> for New Castle if you want. >> >> >> >> I can't speak to the Irish Quakers coming into Pennsylvania under the >> >> Penns >> >> but there were some Quakers that came from Accomac into old Somerset >> when >> >> the county was first established (1662). You can read about them in >> >> Clayton >> >> Torrence's history of Somerset. They mostly came into the Annemessex >> area >> >> at >> >> first but some may also have gone into the parts of Somerset that >> later >> >> became part of Sussex County DE. >> >> >> >> John Polk >> >> Havre de Grace >> >> >> *************************************** >> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Folks: I am wondering if anyone is aware of the existence of any coroner's files for Somerset County, Maryland, for the pre-Civil War period. I would also like to know if there were any newspapers published in Princess Anne or elsewhere in the county for that period, and, if so, where any surviving copies might be located. I checked the Nabb Center for both these materials a couple of years ago without success. I'm attempting to verify the details of a bit of old family lore told to me by my grandmother, Mary Letitia Porter Carter (1887-1983), who was born and raised in Somerset and lived there until she moved with my grandfather to Sussex County, Delaware, in the 1930s. Thanks, Dick Carter

HI ALL, BACK OUT OF THE HOPPITOL AND TRYING TO CATCH UP ON MY MAIL. ONE BRANACH OF MY LINE, THE CHICKS AND TURNERS CAME OUT OF THIS AREA. ONE OF MY CHICKS HAS TWO MARRIAGE DATES TO THE SAME WIFE, ONE IN CECIL CO. AND ONE IN BRANDYWINE 100 DELAWARE. SHE WAS A TURNER. THEY MUST HAVE JUMPED STATE BORDERS OR LIVED 100' ON EACH SIDE. GOD BLESS, NORAH COLLINS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Fallin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:45 PM Subject: [LDR] Vol 5, Issue 129; Parts of DE/PA/MD/NJ remained a "region", long after the Duke of York > Dear Joe, > > I don't have an answer in terms of your question as to the geographic > reach of the NewCastle Court in the 1600s. > > However, your area grouping, that pre-dates and ignores the formal > boundaries between these various states, seems to have remained an > historical reality up until, at least, the late 1800s. As an > example, in one family in my line had most of the children born in > the early 1800s born in Cecil County, Maryland. Through the 1860s > the children then moved freely among Chester/Delaware counties PA, > New Castle (Wilmington) DE, and Burlington Co., NJ (with Washington, > DC as an outlier). These movements occurred both during the > childrens' respective lifetimes and with their descendants. A > snapshot of this "regional" alignment is that four brothers were in > the Civil War: one in the 10th NJ Inf, one in the 6th MD inf, one in > the 72nd PA inf, and one in the Confederate Army. > > I haven't made this point before because this "upper Chesapeake, > Brandywine, Delaware" area is out at the very edge of "Delmarva" -- > but it's reality seems confirmed by the common dialect shared > throughout the region right up to the present. I wonder if others on > the list have seen the same intra-regional movement in their families. > > Jack Fallin > Walnut Creek, CA > > > On May 5, 2010, at 12:00 AM, lower-delmarva-roots- > [email protected] wrote: > >> >> >> LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Administrivia >> >> For information about the Lower Delmarva Roots Mailing List, >> including list guidelines and instructions for unsubscribing and >> subscribing, see the LDRoots FAQ: >> >> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Court at New Castle 1676-1681 under Edmund Andros, Gov. for >> NY/NJ/PA & DE areas for part or all of the Duke of York period >> ([email protected]) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 22:55:50 -0700 >> From: <[email protected]> >> Subject: [LDR] Court at New Castle 1676-1681 under Edmund Andros, Gov. >> for NY/NJ/PA & DE areas for part or all of the Duke of York period >> To: <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> >> List: Don't think I've asked this before, but if I have my >> apologies. Not really a >> question...it's hypothetical, or if you prefer, for the sake of >> discussion. >> >> The English had just recaptured the area from the Dutch; local >> borders were fluid or >> undesignated; distances were long and communication slow; (it's >> said) residents often >> did "business" at the most convenient place distance wise. >> >> There was a court at Upland (now Delaware Co, PA), a court at Lewes >> and the New >> Castle Court. (no court in Kent until c1681-2). I haven't found >> the location of the >> court, if any, in Cecil Co, MD (adjacent to New Castle Co....maybe >> at Elkton). >> >> The plaintiff, a British subject, in the account below owned farm >> land but was >> supposedly a resident of New Castle (town). The residence (or >> identity, other than >> the name) of Samuel Hopkins is unknown. >> >> It seems to me that current county borders were fairly meaningless >> in 1673. So what >> is the logical geographic area for the New Castle Court? New >> Castle and parts of >> Kent plus indefinite fringes on all sides (except the water side)? >> The Susquehanna >> River was a land travel inconvenience on the West side of Cecil Co, >> MD so maybe a >> significant part of that county? >> >> Hypothetically then.....what's logical (or perhaps there *is* a >> real answer)? Any >> thoughts? >> >> >> >> >> Joe Lake >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS list administrator, send an >> email to >> [email protected] >> >> To post a message to the LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS mailing list, send an >> email to [email protected] >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER- >> [email protected] >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Digest, Vol 5, Issue 129 >> **************************************************** > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

George wrote >I have followed with interest the instructions of how to get into the MSA microfiche files on line. I have wanted to do this for some time but so far I have not been able to find the microfiche copy of the following abbreviated records I got from the Talbot Co., MD library records.TALBOT COUNTY MARYLAND LAND RECORDS . . . < George, these are Deeds, not estate records. You can find them on www.mdlandrec.net If you have not already registered, do so, and they will email you a password. Your source has garbled the designations of the Deeds volumes. You will want to use the Talbot County indexes. There are two series of indexes. Use the more recent series (not Original Index) for the earliest time period (up to 1832); select first half of alphabet. This is not an alphabetized index but a list. Overall, arranged by first letter of surname and within each letter is a list for each Deeds volume. The 'D' surnames start on page 0089 of this index. The first 2 entries you asked about are listed in the right-hand column under Deed Book RF 9. Good hunting, Judy</HTML>

We are urgently looking for the parents of Nathaniel Andrews (1770-1780). He married Caroline Andrews ( dau of Elijah Andrews) on 16Mar1797. Their issue: William W, Albin and Priscilla. Wm. m Mary Ann Pritchett, Albin m Nancy Moore in 1827. Priscilla m Alan Lane. They all lived in lower Dorchester. My name is Irvin Wilkinson. I was born and raised on the lower Eastern Shore and would gratefully accept any help. My email is [email protected] Thank you for your help with this problem.

I have followed with interest the instructions of how to get into the MSA microfiche files on line. I have wanted to do this for some time but so far I have not been able to find the microfiche copy of the following abbreviated records I got from the Talbot Co., MD library records. TALBOT COUNTY MARYLAND LAND RECORDS Vols. IX (PP. 101-386), X, XI, AND XII (PP. 1-112) Compiled by R. Bernice Leonard St. Michaels, Md. Southern History Department Birmingham Public Library 2100 Park Place Birmingham, AL. 35203 pg 3, 110. 17 Mar 1701, James Kirkham of Talbot, Planter, to Samuel Jemitts and John DILL, Planters - "Wolverton," in the fork between Tuckahoe and the eastern branch of Choptank River near "Poplar Ridge" - on the road that leads from ye Wading Place at Tuckahoe to ye plantation of William Kirkham, containing 250 acres. Wit: Michael Kirby, Nicholas Kelly, John Cape. pg 6, 130. 15 Sept. 1702 John DILL of Talbot, Planter, and Sarah his wife, to Samuel Jemitts, Planter - one half of "Wolverton" in the fork betwixt Tuckahoe and the eastern branch of the Choptank River - on a road that leads from the Wading Place at Tuckahoe to the plantation of William Kirkham - containing 250 acres. Wit: Henry Frith, Samuel Abbott, John Wiggins. 17 Sept. 1702 Acknowledged by John and Sarah Salter (she being first privately examined.) R. Finley, Clerk. I have been able to trace my ancestors to this John Dill and Sarah (maiden name unknown) Dill. How do I find the microfiche copies of the above two records on line? Or better yet, how do I get a Xerox copy of the original land documents? Thank you for your help. With love in Christ, George ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Polk" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [LDR] Will book vol 24 > Whoops - I copied the wrong hotlink. The right url is > http://mdhistory.net/msaref09/msa_te_1_248/html/msa_te_1_248-0645.html > This includes folios 1 -159. The remainder of Volume 24, folios 160-551, > is > on Microfilm #249 at > http://mdhistory.net/msaref09/msa_te_1_249/html/msa_te_1_249-0003.html > > JP > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Polk" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:32 > Subject: Re: [LDR] Will book vol 24 > > >> It is in the Huntington Collection on film #248. Apparently it was >> omitted >> in the first run through of photocopying and was added at the end, way >> out >> of sequence with most of the will books. You will find it here - >> >> http://mdhistory.net/msaref09/msa_te_1_248/html/msa_te_1_248-0394.html >> >> John Polk >> Havre de Grace >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 10:51 >> Subject: [LDR] Will book vol 24 >> >> >>> Does anyone know when this will book will be available online? Of >>> course >>> it is the one I need and it is not yet there. Thanks in advance. >>> >> >>> 1744-1746 >>> 24. Photostat >>> 01/11/01/029 >>> 1302-3 >>> MSA S538-35 >>> *************************************** >>> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> *************************************** >> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Clara....I must have hit the wrong key. Sorry Clara. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clare Pebworth" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] Somerset Co., MD > Michelle, > You didn't have a message thus I can't respond. > Clare > ============= > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michelle Burris Kenerly" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 12:32 PM > Subject: Re: [LDR] Somerset Co., MD > > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Clare Pebworth" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 11:04 AM >> Subject: [LDR] Somerset Co., MD >> >> >>> Ken, >>> I Googled Somerset County, Maryland and got this: >>> >>> Somerset County, Maryland : USGenWeb Project Dec 14, 2009 ... The >>> USGenWeb >>> Project's site for Somerset County, Maryland. Your link to your Somerset >>> roots! Includes online genealogy and history data, ... >>> www.mdgenweb.org/somerset/ >>> >>> It's very interesting and helpful. >>> Clare >>> >>> ======================== >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Ken Waller" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 7:27 AM >>> Subject: Re: [LDR] Help finding location of land >>> >>> >>>> [email protected] writes: >>>>>today for the 1st time I >>>>>found your Somerset Co., MD site. >>>> >>>> Clare - can you share the site that you are referring to? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Have a Happy Day :) >>>> >>>> *************************************** >>>> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>>> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>>> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> *************************************** >>> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >>> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >>> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2879 - Release Date: 05/17/10 >> 06:26:00 >> *************************************** >> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2879 - Release Date: 05/17/10 06:26:00